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"NCAA tournament(s) complaining thread"
At this point, i have two theories on the seeding.

1. Someone in the committee was truly desperate for a Fantastic Four joke.

2. This thing is more rigged than a Crimean voting booth.

In totally non-important news, I'm in on the Coke Zero seed draw this year. (Win a prize of escalating value each time a team you drew advances.) I didn't participate in the original -- the one with the good prizes -- because I was saving my black caps for double points days and the seed draw was loaded towards the bottom of the bracket to a degree many found comedic. Of course, then double digits happened. a lot.

This your, the prizes mostly svck and the top tier is a poor substitute for the first go-round. But gee, at least I've got every #16 in the tournament!

Whee. Sort of.

Let the deliberately blown referee calls begin.

It's possible to draw both sides of a matchup if you play enough times: I have all four 7-10 matchups and one 5-12, so I'm guaranteed five free 20z coupons from the first round. There are 1,750,000 total seeds available. Exactly four of them are #1s.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining ... aethelstan 03-20-14 1
 RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining ... Estee 03-20-14 2
 Upset #1 Estee 03-20-14 3
   RE: Upset #1 byoffer2 03-20-14 4
       RE: Upset #1 Colonel Zoiderg 03-21-14 12
 RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining ... Estee 03-20-14 5
   More upsets byoffer2 03-20-14 7
 Hahvahd! Estee 03-20-14 6
   RE: Hahvahd! cahaya 03-20-14 8
 Overtimes! cahaya 03-20-14 9
   RE: Overtimes! byoffer2 03-20-14 10
       RE: Overtimes! Estee 03-21-14 11
 Hit the road, Dook... Colonel Zoiderg 03-21-14 13
   RE: Hit the road, Dook... Estee 03-21-14 14
   RE: Hit the road, Dook... byoffer2 03-21-14 15
   RE: Hit the road, Dook... aethelstan 03-21-14 16
 Atlantic Sun Conference aethelstan 03-21-14 17
 Baylor v Nebraska aethelstan 03-21-14 18
 One billion dollars cahaya 03-22-14 19
   RE: One billion dollars PepeLePew13 03-22-14 20
       RE: One billion dollars cahaya 03-22-14 21
 RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining ... Jims03 03-22-14 22
 RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining ... Estee 03-23-14 23
 And now, some other guys we've neve... Estee 03-23-14 24
 Article from ESPN talking Wisconsin... aethelstan 04-02-14 25
 UConn v. UK aethelstan 04-06-14 26
   RE: UConn v. UK vs UConn v Notra D... snidget 04-07-14 27
       RE: UConn v. UK vs UConn v Notra D... aethelstan 04-07-14 28
           RE: UConn v. UK vs UConn v Notra D... cahaya 04-07-14 31
               RE: UConn v. UK vs UConn v Notra D... snidget 04-08-14 33
   RE: UConn v. UK Estee 04-07-14 29
   RE: UConn v. UK Molaholic 04-07-14 30
       RE: UConn v. UK AyaK 04-07-14 32
           RE: UConn v. UK Molaholic 04-08-14 34

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1. "RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining thread"
A while ago, someone (I think byoffer) was asking about the relative successes of the Carleton Ravens, who are currently the Duke/Kentucky/MSU of Canadian college basketball all rolled into one. They've just won their 10 national championship in the past 12 years and 4 in a row. Their cross-town rivals, University of Ottawa, were second this year and third last year.

I think one of the reasons for this success (for both teams) is that they run the Capital Hoops Challenge where they invite NCAA teams north of the border for a tournament in August. This year, the teams were the Syracuase Orangemen and the Wisconsin Badgers. Syracuse, of course, went to the Final Four last year and went 25-0 to start this year and got a 3 seed. Wisconsin is a #2 seed this year and is a fixture in the NCAA tournament.

Carleton beat Wisconsin 95-82 and lost in overtime to Syracuse 69-65. And I think they were playing mainly their starters though I couldn't know for sure. Carleton's coach was actually absent because he's also the national team coach and had national team commitments.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/08/23/carleton-ravens-lose-to-syracuse-orange-in-overtime-in-pre-season-basketball-game-at-canadian-tire-centre

Carleton could be the Gonzaga of the north but as the article above points out, it's unlikely that you'll ever see them in the March Madness tournament even though they could shock as much as any team from Wichita, VCU or Butler.

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2. "RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining thread"
Just overheard: "Welcome to the least productive workday in America."
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3. "Upset #1"
Dayton.

You would think this would mean a flood of Coke Zero winners. You would be wrong. After what happened last year, some genius in Atlanta decided the best way to protect the company was to shortchange the #11 seeds.

Seriously. Each region has a total of 2500 #11 pieces available. Contrast this with 43,750 #12s and 13,750 #10s.

For the record, my best seed is a #5: VCU. Only 499 others available.

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03-20-14, 03:00 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Upset #1"
And with that upset, the $1B dreams of 85% of the entries die. By the end of today there will be very few people who still have perfect brackets.

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12. "RE: Upset #1"
As a resident of Columbus, a.k.a. the center of the anus that is Ohio, and as the husband of a Dayton grad, I can honestly say this:

Hey, Buckeye nation: HA!

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5. "RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining thread"
According to the scoreboard, Colorado is playing like someone left a 1 off their seed.

Yes, I know that makes them an #18.

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03-20-14, 04:34 PM (EST)
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7. "More upsets"
#9 Pitt over #8 Colorado counts as an upset.
#11 Dayton over cross-state #6 Ohio St is bigger.
#12 Harvard over #5 Cinci is even bigger (though Harvard won a game last year too)


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6. "Hahvahd!"
Coupons!

No one tell the school someone got freebies from this. They'll retroactively forfeit.

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8. "RE: Hahvahd!"
They'll retroactively forfeit.

And file a class action lawsuit.

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9. "Overtimes!"
Wow, three overtime games, one right after the other, with UConn, St Louis and NDSU winning. The NC State and St Louis game almost went into double overtime.

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10. "RE: Overtimes!"
Congrats to North Dakota State, for pulling the upset and winning the first tournament game in their schools history. Great game. Great finish.
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11. "RE: Overtimes!"
I wish we'd seen more. Thursday felt like Nearly Night: teams stay close, teams go to overtime -- but ultimately, the whole day produced a pair of 12s and an 11. It could have been a lot more Upsetting all over the bracket, and wasn't.

Still, I think I'm up to nine coupons, so whee.

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13. "Hit the road, Dook..."
...and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more,
Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more.
What you say?
Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more,
Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more.

Whoa Mercer, oh Mercer, don't treat me so mean,
You're the meanest mid-major that I've ever seen,
I guess if you say so,
We better pack our things and go.
That's right!

Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more,
Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more.
What you say?
Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more,
Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more.

Now Dookies, now Dookies, don't cry in your beer,
You'll be a number one seed next year,
(Don't care if they are 'cause we all know
The Dookies can't win because they blow)
I guess if you say so
We better just say Dook blows
That's right!

Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more,
Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more.
What you say?
Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more,
Hit the road, Dook, and don't you come back no more.

Waaaah!!!
(Don't you come back no more!)
Uhh what did you say?
(Don't you come back no more!)
I don't understand you
(Don't you come back no more!)
We can to play bashketballz
(Don't you come back no more!)
We're shaposhta winzy-poo
(Don't you come back no more!)
Thish effffffing shucks...I need a-a-nother beer...
(Don't you come back no more!)
Ah, screw it, we suck...
(Don't you come back no more!)
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
(Don't you come back no more!)
**drooling**

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14. "RE: Hit the road, Dook..."
*grins*

Ding. Dong.

Jabari go hari-kari.

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15. "RE: Hit the road, Dook..."
Well said, but this svcks.
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16. "RE: Hit the road, Dook..."
Like!
+1

Nice job. Gotta say the first thing that popped into my mind upon seeing the score was "Ding-Dong the witch is dead..."

And, yes, I had Duke winning this game in my brackets, and the next one, but I had them losing to Michigan after that so I'm not hurt too badly by this on that front.

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17. "Atlantic Sun Conference"
LAST EDITED ON 03-21-14 AT 02:58 PM (EST)

A new power conference in the making???

Mercer beats Duke this year.
FCGU goes to the Sweet 16 last year. Mercer even won its first round NIT game last year.
Heck, in 2012, Mercer won the CIT.

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18. "Baylor v Nebraska"
Do you think Baylor was going to pass up a chance to tell Nebraska that they should have left the Big 12? I'm pretty sure there was a little extra motivation there for Baylor. Which is why I didn't pick an upset here!
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19. "One billion dollars"
... and only one perfect bracket remains after 31 games.

Good luck making it through the rest of the games, Brad.

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20. "RE: One billion dollars"
He's not entered in the billion dollar bracket challenge, though. Just on Yahoo!, so Buffett's off the hook for this year and can reinvest that billion dollars into even more billions.
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21. "RE: One billion dollars"
Yeah, I saw the post on the RTVW bracket board about that last bracket not being in the billion dollar challenge. I just clicked on the Leaderboard from the billion dollar bracket group, not realizing that it captures everyone in every bracket. Goes to show how astronomical the odds are of having a perfect bracket in just the first round of 32 games, much less for the whole tournament!
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22. "RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining thread"
I don't really follow college basketball, so I'm not allowed to cheer. But who cares.

Yay Dayton. Great to see the local team go out there and play well.

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23. "RE: NCAA tournament(s) complaining thread"
Stanford?

Stanford.

And thus I get all the way to free music downloads.

Next hope: BK gift cards.

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24. "And now, some other guys we've never heard of."
Have you noticed that the tournament is rapidly running out of lottery draft picks? It's the curse of CBS promotion: get featured and you're gone.

And with the one-and-done rule, it's the only tournament memories they'll ever leave behind.

I imagine a compress of cold cash soothes the pain nicely.

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25. "Article from ESPN talking Wisconsin v. Carleton"
This dovetails nicely with what I mentioned in the first reply post.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/2014/story/_/id/10706633/wisconsin-badgers-loss-canada-changed-their-season-better

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26. "UConn v. UK"
A 7 and an 8 seed are playing for the national championship. A team that doesn't even belong to a BCS league is playing against the pre-season #1 ranked team. Guess they peaked at the right time.

And what does this say about Wichita State? All those people who said they hadn't played anyone of consequence in their 35-0 run. It's likely that the only team that could beat them were the national champions! But they had to meet in the 2nd round! A shame really because this will keep people piling on the poor mid-major schools (even if a lot of them are benefiting from realignment (Butler, etc) by playing in more 'power' conferences.

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27. "RE: UConn v. UK vs UConn v Notra Dame"
Why does it seem the men's BB seeding is always so screwy and yet in the woman's tourney it seems normal to get things like two undefeated number one seeds playing for the championship game.

Let me guess, um, big money doesn't corrupt the seeding process as much in woman's BB? Or maybe women are just more orderly and like to have things more neat and tidy so win/lose games based on where they get seeded?

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28. "RE: UConn v. UK vs UConn v Notra Dame"
That might be part of it but my guess is that the talent pool and the level of parity in the women's game isn't quite as deep as in the men's game. It's almost like baseball where only 8 or so teams know they've got a shot heading into the season.
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31. "RE: UConn v. UK vs UConn v Notra Dame"
Definitely the parity and large pool of great talent spread amongst the schools. Looking at the BPI and Kenpom ratings for the teams this past year, they were pretty closely bunched together, meaning any one team could beat another team on a given night. Instead of a team being an overwhelming 80-90% favorite to win, it's more like 55-60% with a lot more "upsets" likely to occur.
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33. "RE: UConn v. UK vs UConn v Notra Dame"
Part of me does wonder with the Men's Tourney since upsets and cinderella stories are part of the draw if that doesn't effect some of the seeding. I know it can be hard to predict who is going to be extra hot on any given day, or what team will over look some piddly shouldn't win and not really prepare for the game you are about to play but assume you'll win that and be focused on the second round game.

I agree there likely isn't the kind of talent pool and depth in the woman's side of the tourney, but still seems every year they have more and more bracket busting games on the men's side and hard to believe all of that just happens randomly because well there are at least 32 if not 50 teams that all are good enough to make the final four.

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29. "RE: UConn v. UK"
Due to the way both the tournament and Coke's game piece distribution worked out, should UConn win tonight, I have a one in 2500 chance of receiving $50,000. If that unsurprisingly doesn't work out, I also have a six in 2500 chance of being rudely frisked for a ridiculously long duration at next year's Final Four.

I will be watching tonight's results with great interest.

(The UConn haul through this post: three 20oz Coke Zero bottles, nine music downloads, $30 Burger King, six movie tickets, $150 Nike.)

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30. "RE: UConn v. UK"
I'm going to be lazy and not bother to research this myself -- seems to me that within the last four-five years there was another opportunity for the same college to win both Men's and Women's BB tournys (it may have been UConn). I'm pretty sure they did not get both titles -- or maybe they did -- but has it happened?
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32. "RE: UConn v. UK"
UConn won both the men's and women's tournaments in 2004.

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34. "RE: UConn v. UK"
Half-way there!

but I've got to pull for the Irish tonight...

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