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12-05-11, 12:48 PM (EST)
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"Santo elected to Baseball Hall of Fame"
I think there's been someone here waiting on this day for a long time. Or was that for Gil Hodges?

http://eye-on-baseball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/33708355

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 RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall ... PepeLePew13 12-05-11 1
   RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall ... Estee 12-05-11 3
 RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall ... Estee 12-05-11 2
 As long as we're on the Hall... Estee 12-05-11 4
 RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall ... HobbsofMI 12-05-11 5
   RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall ... Estee 12-05-11 6
 RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall ... AyaK 12-06-11 7
 Ford C. Frick award goes to... Estee 12-08-11 8

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PepeLePew13 24731 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-11, 01:03 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall of Fame"
Yeah that was Moley who's been holding up a candle for Gil Hodges.

Congrats to Santo for finally making it in, although it would have been nice if he was still alive to see it before he passed away last year. As for whether he's HOF-worthy, I think he's a candidate for the Hall-of-Very-Good but not so sure if he's a HOFer as he had some solid but not great numbers.

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12-05-11, 01:12 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall of Fame"
although it would have been nice if he was still alive to see it before he passed away last year

I call it Buck's Corollary. 'We'll love you when you're dead.'

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12-05-11, 01:04 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall of Fame"
*looks for list of committee members*

I'm trying to figure out which ones grew a brain cell.

Gil will never get in. No one will explain why.

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12-05-11, 01:21 PM (EST)
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4. "As long as we're on the Hall..."
Mentioning Buck reminded me that the first not-him recipient of his Lifetime Achievement Award is going in this year: Roland Hemond.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Hemond

My local sports talk radio station spent a happy twenty minutes listening to him tell stories of Back In The Day, including a wonderful bit about working with Bill Veeck in the notorious Open For Business hotel lobby trades for the ChiSox. Turns out they spent most of the meetings making calls to each other. There were six actual trades made while the other owners were screaming about the scandal of public swapping, but they wanted to make it look as if the line was always busy.

There are probably at least twenty baseball lifers who wanted to unelect him on the spot.

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12-05-11, 01:52 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall of Fame"
How many ways can you get into the Baseball Hall of Fame?


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12-05-11, 02:20 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall of Fame"
Main entrance, sneak in through the side, ventilation ducts...

*considers*

Let's see:

Baseball Writers election
Veteran's Committee (also handles owners, umpires, managers, and executives)
Lifetime Achievement (every three years, max)
Special Committee (Negro Leagues, pre-70s, pre-war, created as needed)
Broadcaster (Ford C. Frick award)

I think that's all of them.

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12-06-11, 06:08 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Santo elected to Baseball Hall of Fame"
Advocating for Santo? I guess that was me. Jim Kaat, too, but half a loaf is better than none.

http://tinyurl.com/85atsez

Unlike most of you, I remember Santo as a player. Some people seem to be most impressed with how well he battled illness, like this ESPN columnist:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7324080/ron-santo-election-hall-fame-shamefully-late

...but nobody deserves to be in the HoF because of their personal struggles. It's all on the field, or at least, it's supposed to be. And Santo lived up to that. He was always among the league leader in walks, because no one wanted to pitch to him with runners in scoring position; he led the league four times in walks and yet, during the 1960s, he was second to Hank Aaron in NL RBIs.

His diabetes cut his career short. The Cubs let him go when he was only 33, and he retired at 34. But from 1963-70, when his defense started to slip, he was a great player on some lousy Cubs teams -- and a couple of very good ones at the end of that period.

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12-08-11, 07:58 PM (EST)
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8. "Ford C. Frick award goes to..."
Tim McCarver.

It just hit me: the former Mets broadcasters in the Hall outnumber the players by --

-- not thinking about this any more.

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