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"The Biggest Loser"
Premieres on NBC Tuesday Oct 19 @ 8PM

Looks like a bunch of fat people will compete for who can lose the most weight my dieting and exercise (not surgery). I think they live in a house together like Big Brother? They seem to have a big table full of sweets for temptation.

I may watch out of morbid facination

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: The Biggest Loser Swami 09-27-04 1
 RE: The Biggest Loser Estee 09-27-04 2
   Summarizing MTW1961 10-05-04 4
 RE: The Biggest Loser SilverStar 09-30-04 3
 RE: The Biggest Loser okaychatt 10-14-04 5
   RE: The Biggest Loser newsomewayne 10-20-04 12
 RE: The Biggest Loser MTW1961 10-19-04 6
   RE: The Biggest Loser volsfan 10-19-04 7
       RE: The Biggest Loser MTW1961 10-20-04 14
           RE: The Biggest Loser SurvivorBlows 10-20-04 20
               RE: The Biggest Loser MTW1961 10-20-04 21
                   RE: The Biggest Loser volsfan 10-20-04 22
 The first episode! volsfan 10-19-04 8
   RE: The first episode! Denalio 10-20-04 9
 RE: The Biggest Loser Estee 10-20-04 10
   RE: The Biggest Loser volsfan 10-20-04 11
   RE: The Biggest Loser MTW1961 10-20-04 15
       RE: The Biggest Loser Estee 10-20-04 17
           RE: The Biggest Loser volsfan 10-20-04 18
 RE: The Biggest Loser blacknwhitedog 10-20-04 13
   RE: The Biggest Loser Estee 10-20-04 16
 RE: The Biggest Loser frodo2 10-20-04 19
 RE: The Biggest Loser arkiegrl 10-20-04 23
   RE: The Biggest Loser MTW1961 10-20-04 24
       RE: The Biggest Loser Smooth23 10-20-04 25
           RE: The Biggest Loser MTW1961 10-20-04 26
               RE: The Biggest Loser volsfan 10-20-04 27
       RE: The Biggest Loser arkiegrl 10-20-04 28
           RE: The Biggest Loser MTW1961 10-20-04 29
               RE: The Biggest Loser frodo2 10-21-04 30
                   RE: The Biggest Loser volsfan 10-21-04 31
                       RE: The Biggest Loser pmspml5 10-22-04 34
 RE: The Biggest Loser MollyTV 10-22-04 32
   RE: The Biggest Loser newsomewayne 10-22-04 33

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1. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
First thought? I am so not going to watch this one!


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2. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
Anyone want to summarize this? Anyone...? Beuller? Beuller?

I'm very mildly curious about the diets -- are they going to assign one person to the Atkins cult, another to South Beach, a third to the dreaded 'eat less and exercise', and so on down the line -- but beyond that, this feels like a train wreck waiting for the first green light.

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4. "Summarizing"
LAST EDITED ON 10-05-04 AT 07:33 PM (EST)

This junk food reality TV sounds right up my alley. I'll do an episode or two. How about you? Silverstar? Anyone else?


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3. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I might watch this one. They have something similar on the Discovery Channel called the Body Health Challenge, or something like that. My sister watches that and she really likes it. Of course, I doubt that the Discovery Channel is evil enough to tempt the people with tables of junk food.


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5. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I'll push myself away from the remote and pass on this one. Like The Swan, this one is preying on unhappy, vulnerable people, even though they are DAWS. That's just wrong.


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12. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
While I agree the producers are preying on those unhappy with themselves, I think there are some important differences.

For one, on the Big L, contestants do all the work themselves. If they lose the weight it is because of something they did and can be proud of, not because of what some doctor or dentist can do with surgery and silicone.

Second, unlike considering yourself unattractive, obesity is dangerous to your health. The changes these people can make are so important on so many levels that have nothing to do with vanity.

I wish them luck.


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6. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
It starts tonight. Are we summarizing? Anybody?

And does it get it's own forum here on RealityTVWorld?


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7. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
HEY MTW! I am watching but I haven't taped it! I had SOTS this week and have a Real World summary of tonight's episode! I wouldn't mind summarizing somewhere down the road! You want tonight's episode?


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14. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I have no other summaries on my plate, so I guess I'll do episode 1. Maybe we can generate a little reader enthusiasm, and get more board action going. It would sure be nice if the show had its own forum, though.


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20. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
OK, ok, if folks are willing to do summaries, then I'll be willing to give you your own forum

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21. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
GREAT! I'll do Episode 1 at least. Vols said he'd do a later episode. Anyone else interested? Valuable summary experience!


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22. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I can do next week's summary! I got epi 2!
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8. "The first episode!"
Has been pretty good! I have enjoyed it! Also, how cruel was that to put the breakfast food on the table in front of them? I know that is how it will be when they go back home but...DAMN!


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9. "RE: The first episode!"
I decided to check it out and realize I SO don't really want to watch this, (it's like the noticing the plumbers' butt crack - you don't want to see it but almost can't help but look) and now I am curious and a little weirded out.

First of all, it doesn't seem very healthy to promote the "Lose as much weight as fast as you can" approach to fitness. I will be interested to see the medical worlds' response to this show. Secondly, it seems overly unfair to the less obese people. The more obese people will lose weight the fastest with less effort. Males will generally lose more weight than females with less effort. ** And third, I am curious about how in the world they plan to continue comparing overall weight loss when one person of the team is eliminated each week?? 'Splain that one to me Mark EP Burnett?

** OK the previews show that attitude and succumbing to temptation plays a role as well-- so maybe the playing field between the severly obese vs mildly obese and male vs female evens out here...


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10. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
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Morbid fascination grabbed a few minutes away from Boston/New York, so I can say the following:

1. I tried to watch it as a pure competition/lifestyle change show, sort of like Queer Eye contestants finding out who'll go and meet the Fab Five by seeing who can do the best wardrobe change without them. Hard. Very hard. They were walking on the border between caring about their contestants and pushing them into the fat joke abyss, and there were a lot of moments when they almost fell off the line -- mostly visual. The temptation refrigerators, that first public weigh-in and putting everyone in bathing suits to start... This is going to be a hard show to make fun of as far as the players go, because I want to see them succeed, and it looks like the producers will be pushing for failure at least twice a show.

2. The production values are really, really vulnerable. Let's count off just a few of the travesties, all right? Caroline Rhea can lead off, because she seems to think she's Jiffie and she brought the Reward Challenge to prove it. 'Wanna see what you're playing for? Five pounds of lard!' And so Bubba's TV career is resumed.

I have suffered more than this in watching Ms. Rhea go through the reality motions. I watched her win Celebrity Blackjack's first season and prove she could be a sore loser, a sore winner, and injure poor Billy Baldwin -- twice -- without caring in the least, because she's Caroline Rhea and above the emotions of lesser beings. But let this thing run for a while, and it'll get close by the fourth episode. With her need to Jiffie-recap the votes (the platters... I can still see the platters...), 'time to cut the fat' lines, and overall aura of 'This is the best job I could get -- whee!', she can be plowed into the ground during every episode, and no one will care beyond enjoying it a lot.

Oh, and the refrigerator going dark? Priceless. We need a line for that. 'The power company has spoken.' 'Your bulb is dead to us.' 'This is the final snack of the night.'

Nice scale, too. I didn't know they came in drama models that took five minutes to center on the subject's weight.

And did anyone else notice the tape measure numbers scrolling by behind the contestants' names during their confessional-tells?

3. Quarter-million dollars? Cheapstakes.

4. Doctors on hand, medical supervision, carefully tailored programs, making sure no one hurts themselves doing this -- even though it's gonna inspire a thousand dieting traumas in the viewers who go to work without such safeguards (and would have anyway), just watch -- but still, everyone thinks carbs are evil. Y'know what I'm waiting for? The all-veggie, no-carb, low-protein diet. Guaranteed to work because nothing takes off weight like decomposition.

5. Okay, so it was kind of fun to see the weight loss tallies. And following up on the banished should be a weekly thing.

6. How on Earth do you vote? Survivor is 'eat the strong': is this going to be 'eat the big?' Keep the heaviest people around for the early stages, hoping their losses will be the highest and rack up your tally -- and then get rid of them as soon as possible if it somehow goes down to individual competition, so they can't lose more than you?

7. I give it three weeks before someone takes a swing at a trainer.

8. I give it five weeks before FOX rips it off.

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11. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I can't believe FOX didn't rip them off and beat them to production!


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15. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
Ack! I violated my own personal rule and visited the message board before writing a summary. Now I am destined to ripoff some of your thoughts. I will attribute them accordingly.

One other thought I had - the production style seemed reminiscient of the FLOM shows, especially with the way they cut before commercials and repeated the previous few seconds at the resumption, constant previews, etc. I know many shows do this, but it seemed like FLOM. I was half expecting some secret twist where one is offered money to sabotage the others.


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17. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
Ack! I violated my own personal rule and visited the message board before writing a summary. Now I am destined to ripoff some of your thoughts. I will attribute them accordingly.

Err... sorry? I don't think it's much of a problem, though. As we found out during OJ, you and I sometimes think along vaugely similar lines. (This makes me feel very worried about you, but there's nothing I can do about it.)

One other thought I had - the production style seemed reminiscient of the FLOM shows, especially with the way they cut before commercials and repeated the previous few seconds at the resumption, constant previews, etc. I know many shows do this, but it seemed like FLOM.

That needs its own name. How about 'Idiot Edit'?

I was half expecting some secret twist where one is offered money to sabotage the others.

An offline correspondent asked me if any of the contestants had been caught trying to stuff food down the others' throats while they slept...

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18. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I lvoe "Idiot Edit! I always tell my friends that it is The A.D.D. edit!


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13. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I kinda liked it except that Caroline Rhea annoys the heck out of me. The two trainers have different approaches. Jillian (the red team) has them on a low-carb "eat less" diet. She believes in pushing them very hard in their workouts. She has more of a drill-sargent style.
Bob (the blue team) is more laid back. He doesn't want them to get discouraged. He has them on a portion control "eat more" diet.
The red team lost more weight this week even though they lost the challenge and got a 5 pound penalty. The blue team had to vote someone off and they sent 21-yr old Dana home because she has the least amount of weight to lose. Instead of extinguishing the torch of the bootee, their refigerator light is turned off- kind of cheesy!

Here's the recap from the NBC website http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Biggest_Loser/recaps/


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16. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
Just read the NBC summary: morbid curiosity took over. It's textbook. Unfortunately, the course is entitled 'How To Give Out Most Of The Needed Information While Boring Everyone To Sleep'. Gah.
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19. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I loved it. This show is fun.
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23. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I don't think I'm going to watch this one. Just hits a little too close to home.


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24. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
Arkie, did you watch episode 1? IMHO, the contestants were treated respectfully, and we got a sense of their humanity.


Course, it was pretty late when I watched it and I was tired from watching the baseball game, so maybe I'm wrong there!

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25. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I loaded up on cookies and milk while watching. Am I a bad person?
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26. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I was snacking on 2-year old Life Savers and getting ready to gulp down a root beer float diet A&W, no sugar added vanilla ice cream). I felt REALLY guilty because I still need to lose about 15 lbs to get down to MY goal weight.


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27. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I had popcorn while watching and I must say...while they were being weighed...I felt guilty!

I thought the show was done very well and it obvious that most of them truly want to lose weight. I think the one lady that wigged out saying she didn't know what to eat and that she had eaten 500 calories and was afraid that was too much...really wants to lose weight!


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No, actually I didn't. Because I assumed that it would just be bad all way around. So, I should give it a chance?


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29. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
You can't help but empathize with the contestants and want them to succeed. Naturally, there are some you cheer for more than others, but overall, there's a positive attitude.

Of course, when I summarize the show, I will try to leave my empathy at the door to my den, far away from my wireless keyboard. They ARE reality TV show contestants, and therefore must be bashed!


I say give it a "look-see"!

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30. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
Not these. They're more realistic than the people on the other shows. you look at survivor and you're getting a bunch of hotties with somewhat odd character traits. with TBL, the people could be your friend or next door neighbor. It's closer reality.
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31. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
Not only that, after watching the first episode, I actually feel for these peeps and I want them to lose weight! I am rooting for them...all of them! That never happens with your other regular shows.

These peeps are not DAWS!


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34. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
I agree VS - I did catch an episode of "Cold Turkey" (hey I was on pain meds ok) The one thing I liked about it is that they do challenges to earn the money. Everyone that does quit splits the prize. I kinda like that. I felt for the very big guy that ate 4 pieces of bacon - his team was all over him. If he can stop at 4 pieces I say eat away it is more likely to keep him on the diet the rest of the time - the key is stopping at 4.
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32. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
i am waiting for the celebrity version coming in nov...with ralphie may..
looks good.
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33. "RE: The Biggest Loser"
Can Caroline Rhea be a host and a contestant?
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