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"Time to Vote!!!!!!"
So, America. Who ya gonna vote for?

Do you vote to keep Ed in, pissing off both him and his wife that they can't throw the game?

Do you keep all women knowing that gives Michelle an advantage as guys usually lose more weight?

There are valid points to both, as Ed is not a great weight loser (either that, or he threw a lot of weigh-ins)

Im torn. What to do?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! Pretty_Kitty 12-09-08 1
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! samboohoo 12-09-08 2
   RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! brvnkrz 12-09-08 4
       RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! MPVLOST 12-09-08 5
           RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! brvnkrz 12-09-08 6
               RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! MPVLOST 12-09-08 7
                   RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! brvnkrz 12-09-08 8
                       RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! ohmyheck 12-09-08 9
                           RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! brvnkrz 12-09-08 10
                               RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! ohmyheck 12-09-08 11
                                   RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! brvnkrz 12-09-08 12
                                       RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! samboohoo 12-10-08 16
                                           RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! brvnkrz 12-10-08 18
                           Ed watering up aquariaqueen 12-10-08 19
                               RE: Ed watering up brvnkrz 12-10-08 21
                                   RE: Ed watering up KeithFan 12-10-08 22
                                       RE: Ed watering up brvnkrz 12-10-08 23
                                       RE: Ed watering up samboohoo 12-10-08 24
                                           RE: Ed watering up Breezy 12-10-08 26
                                               RE: Ed watering up Ahtumbreez 12-10-08 28
                                                   RE: Ed watering up samboohoo 12-10-08 34
                                                       RE: Ed watering up newsomewayne 12-10-08 36
                                                           RE: Ed watering up jbug 12-10-08 41
                                       RE: Ed watering up warp_core breach 12-10-08 29
                                           RE: Ed watering up Breezy 12-10-08 30
                                               RE: Ed watering up Ahtumbreez 12-10-08 35
                                                   RE: Ed watering up Breezy 12-10-08 43
                                                   RE: Ed watering up brvnkrz 12-10-08 60
                       WARNING Bebo 12-10-08 51
                           RE: WARNING brvnkrz 12-10-08 59
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! ksuzee 12-09-08 3
   What Kind of Win Is it? (or will be... WhiteHot 12-10-08 13
       RE: What Kind of Win Is it? (or wil... samboohoo 12-10-08 17
           RE: What Kind of Win Is it? (or wil... LostAddict 12-10-08 20
           Michelle will smoke Vicki WhiteHot 12-10-08 52
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! flipxcyd 12-10-08 14
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! bech8104 12-10-08 15
   You've Convinced me! WhiteHot 12-10-08 53
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! Ahtumbreez 12-10-08 25
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! warp_core breach 12-10-08 27
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! mtopaz 12-10-08 31
   RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! flystorms 12-10-08 32
   Redeeming Vicky WhiteHot 12-10-08 54
 Did you call in your vote? aquariaqueen 12-10-08 33
   RE: Did you call in your vote? aquariaqueen 12-11-08 61
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! Ahtumbreez 12-10-08 37
   RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! LostAddict 12-10-08 38
       Sorry, incorrect. newsomewayne 12-10-08 39
           RE: Sorry, incorrect. Snidget 12-10-08 40
           RE: Sorry, incorrect. LostAddict 12-10-08 42
               RE: Sorry, incorrect. momof2sons 12-10-08 45
                   RE: Sorry, incorrect. flipxcyd 12-10-08 57
 Alternate view PagongRatEater 12-10-08 44
   RE: Alternate view newsomewayne 12-10-08 46
       RE: Alternate view PagongRatEater 12-10-08 47
           RE: Alternate view newsomewayne 12-10-08 48
               RE: Alternate view PagongRatEater 12-10-08 49
                   RE: Alternate view Ahtumbreez 12-11-08 62
   RE: Alternate view samboohoo 12-10-08 50
       liking Ed WhiteHot 12-10-08 56
   Ed's Gain WhiteHot 12-10-08 55
 RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! true 12-10-08 58
   RE: Time to Vote!!!!!! Ahtumbreez 12-11-08 63
       If Icky Wins... WhiteHot 12-12-08 64
           RE: If Icky Wins... flystorms 12-16-08 65

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Pretty_Kitty 536 desperate attention whore postings
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12-09-08, 09:44 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Im voting Ed. Heba's tears do not move me.
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12-09-08, 09:53 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Vote Ed. They all worked hard, Heba did not have to work harder. Wah, wah, wah. She got what she wanted when Ed watered up. They could have sent Vicky and Heba under and still both been in the finals.

Idiots.

Tis the season.


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12-09-08, 10:34 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Who fell below the yellow line tonight?

Sorry, I won't be able to participate in the other thread in this forum so I am asking here.
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12-09-08, 10:41 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
oh what, you can't post in a thread because I started it? Are you really that childish?

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12-09-08, 11:12 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-08 AT 11:14 PM (EST)

oh what, you can't post in a thread because I started it? Are you really that childish?
Pardon me? Um, I'm not sure who you are so I'm not sure why you are making this comment towards me but you must think highly of yourself to think that I know who you are and that you have enough influence over which threads I post in.
I kept getting an error everytime I tried to respond in that thread making it impossible for me to participate. I didn't really pay attention to who started the thread until you just pointed it out here. If you must know, I have been having computer problems all night. I kept getting an error code of not enough memory on Facebook making it impossible for me to post on some pages but allowing me to on others.

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12-09-08, 11:30 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
oh please, you know very well who I am.

But whatever. If you want to continue to be petty and childish over a silly argument, then go right ahead.

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8. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-08 AT 11:47 PM (EST)

Um, okay. *confused look*
Still trying to find out though who fell below the line.
ETA: For the record I have interacted with a lot of people over the years and don't always remember people until we have had a lot of interaction. I can't remember us having a lot of interaction so you probably just blended into the woodwork for me. Sorry, I'll remember your name in the future though.

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12-09-08, 11:46 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Ed and Heba. Ed watered up and gained 2 pounds. We know who wears the pants in that marriage. Sorry about the irrational response to your question up there.
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12-09-08, 11:49 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
As happy as I am to know that Michelle didn't fall below, I do wish Icky had fallen. Thank you for the response.

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11. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
I know, Vicky is such a hag. Amy so should have taken her chance to get rid of her.
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12. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Gah, I just can't stand to watch Icky on my screen. I've decided that I have a huge crush on Michelle. She is what this show is about. Makes me happy.

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16. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
The bad thing is that Ed was poised to have a huge week this week. He and Michelle could have taken the top two spots. Ed & Heba's plan backfired - the last thing they needed was for both of them to fall below.

Tis the season.


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18. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Personally, I'm glad. I would have rather Icky fall below but this was definitely 2nd best.

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12-10-08, 09:53 AM (EST)
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19. "Ed watering up"
My dear aunt called while I had the show on. I saw that Ed added 2 pounds. What was his reasoning? He would go home to win, and she would stay to win???

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21. "RE: Ed watering up"
I don't understand the reasoning either other than he wanted to make sure that Heba would stay and his only chance of that happening was if he were in the bottom two? Otherwise it makes no sense at all.

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22. "RE: Ed watering up"
Heffa is their because she's the martyr in the family. Jesus I'd hate to be her kid. Everything is about her. If the kid got a bad report card it would be "How can you do this to me?" She pretty much said "I'm here because I worked hard and deserve it." What? Nobody else worked hard or deserve it? Fuggin' cow. I hate her.


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23. "RE: Ed watering up"
I also hate how she knows that Ed is petitioning for her to stay. Didn't even cross her mind that he might not be. He is without a doubt purely PW. Poor guy.

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24. "RE: Ed watering up"
Yep. Just when she was starting to look a little bit better to me, Wham!

I was floored that she said she had had to work harder than everyone. Um, no, I'm sorry you didn't. If anything, you didn't have to work as hard. Being smaller doesn't give you a lot to work with. Very little wiggle room.

Tis the season.


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12-10-08, 11:18 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: Ed watering up"
Hefa was a total cow last night. She couldn't keep her mouth shut? America might not have voted with spite if she could have kept her piehole closed.

I so see this backfiring on Ed. Everywhere I have read, everyone is voting for Ed to be in the finales.

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28. "RE: Ed watering up"
I'm hoping if Ed does make it back that it doesn't backfire on Michelle!

I wonder which of Ed/Heba ate the meals from the Biggest Loser challenge while they were home.


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34. "RE: Ed watering up"
I thought about this too, Tummy. I can see Ed making sure Heba got the meals. But then I was slightly confused because Vicky made it sound like her whole family would benefit from the meals. I think Vicky was probably only hearing what Vicky wanted to hear.

But my vote is Heba gets the meals.

Tis the season.


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36. "RE: Ed watering up"
I'm pretty sure Allison said meals for the whole family would be provided.


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41. "RE: Ed watering up"
That's what I thought I heard too.


Agman is definitely on my list (& twin Cyndi too)

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29. "RE: Ed watering up"
If she worked so hard, then she would have beat Vicky as Vicky wasn't that far ahead of her percentage-wise. It was pathetic to see Heba going on about vote for me, vote for me, vote for me while Ed was please vote for Heba.


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30. "RE: Ed watering up"
I agree it was pretty pathetic.
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35. "RE: Ed watering up"
Ed reminds me of Bubba from Forrest Gump for some reason.


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43. "RE: Ed watering up"
It's all that mouth breathing.
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60. "RE: Ed watering up"
Hah, that's it. GF and I last night were immitating him and trying to think of who he reminds of and that's it, Bubba. I think we even called him a big dumb Bubba. LOL

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51. "WARNING"
Both of you, cut it out. If you have an issue with another poster, handle it privately and let those who come here to talk about the show talk about the show.

MPV, you started a forest fire when another poster asked a reasonable question about the show. That is not an appropriate response. Our guidelines clearly state HELP PREVENT FOREST FIRES, and taking OT issues to a show forum is not the way to do so.

Bravie, next time, please take a breath and hit alert instead of throwing fuel on the fire.

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59. "RE: WARNING"
Yes ma'am. I'm sorry.

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3. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
I am so disgusted with all the "game playing". Ed, his wife and Vicky showed disturbing behavior throughout this show, cursing at other members, making fun of them and various insults - great role model for your kids Vicky! (but I guess that's what makes ratings). Michelle and her mom had amazing integrity and class throughout the entire show - even throughout all the challenges. That to me is a true champion and I personally hope Michelle deservingly takes the win. As for the vote, if you cheat, what kind of "win" is it really?
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13. "What Kind of Win Is it? (or will be)"
I think Ed and Heba will self-destruct on their own because Ed will think Heba is the 3rd person America will vote in and he won't try as hard (even though I am sure he will lose weight, I just don't see him looking like Erik or Bill or even Seth by the finale)

Vicki is unfortunately gonna be the one to watch as I am almost positive it will come down to her and Michelle. As in Beauty vs. the Beast. Vicki having seen how America feels about her as the show has progressed will either use that to her advantage and try to 'spite' America or she will crumble and use fast food with her family as comfort as Bob said she would. (but I really don't see the latter happening.)

Bob's warning to the blue team about what happened to S1 winner Ryan was a huge reality check for me. The fact is, being at home by yourself is a big difference. Without the game, can Vicki really do it? And even if she wins, will it be a hollow victory knowing how America (mostly) feels? Thats why we'll have to wait and see what kind of 'win' it is?

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17. "RE: What Kind of Win Is it? (or will be)"
That is my concern about Ed & Heba. Heba will most certainly try. My only hope is that they will both work like heck to have one of them win the "at home" prize and one of them "win it all."

Even though I do think Michelle will smoke Vicky.

Tis the season.


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20. "RE: What Kind of Win Is it? (or will be)"
I think the whole purpse behind Heba & Ed's gameplay is that one will win the grand prize and one will win the at home prize. They don't BOTH want to be in the finale because then they miss out.


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52. "Michelle will smoke Vicki"
I hope you're right. Michelle started out bigger and is a little younger than Vicki, so maybe that'll give Michelle the win.

On a side note, I saw Ed in Men's Fitness and he looks almost the same as when he left the ranch. Granted, Im not sure when that photo shoot was, but Im guessing it was sometime between the end of the ranch and the airing of the show (maybe mid-October).

Vicki is my biggest worry. She's scrappy.

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14. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
I'm voting for Ed.

Who fell below the yellow line? Ed and Heba. I really wished Vicky was one of those who fell below the yellow line. At least Heba is at risk.

Vote for Ed!!!

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15. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Dear America,

PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE, vote for Ed. Even though he made it this far on the coat tails of Heba and Vicky, we should vote him to the finale. Heba is not a nice person. She has been an instigator from the very beginning with her passive=aggressive self. She gets off on dropping the bombs or lighting the fires and then standing back and watching it go to pieces. She claims to of worked harder than everyone else to get where she is today. What a self-absorbed baby. Heba and her back-stabbing, lying, conniving friend Vicky have made this season one that is hard to watch. Vicky and Heba are awful! On tonight's show, Bob talked with his team about what they learned so far so they are not doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. He specifically targeted Vicky (which she lamented her anxiety over)in his conversation, mentioning her game playing this season. She only learned exercise and nutrition claims she. Bob was shocked that she claimed to of learned nothing about herself. He knows that after about two weeks at home, she'll be back at the doughnut shop. Especially since she doesn't cook. As her trainer, Bob needs to accept blame for not helping his team in their quest for inner change. He promoted too much of that "blue team" game thing and the physical and not enough of the mental. Jillian takes care of her folks both mentally and physically everytime. And that promotion about loyalty to your colors when everyone is supposed to be on their own is what caused Amy to be intimidated by Vicky, causing her to cast off a deserving player, and not Ed. And then what happens? Amy gets voted off the next week by Vicky.

Yes, this is a game. But a smart person needs to know how to balance the game versus the mental and the physical. Bob let them down. He should of stepped in weeks ago and turned them around. Let's see them in a year from now. The exercise and nutrition will be in the trash and they'll be lamenting how it's Amy's or Michelle's, or maybe even Bob's fault that they are failing. Heba, Ed and Vicky have been here mostly for the money and not for the benefit of the lessons to be learned. What a waste.

Ed is not doing this out of love for Heba, he is doing this because he knows she is their only chance to win. He knows that he can't possibly lose the weight while at home. We can't do anything about that awful Vicky being in the finale, but let's put Ed in there with Michelle. Doing that would essentially put the finale between Vicky and Michele since Ed pulls low numbers or gains. It's time to put Heba in her place and spank Ed for being a spineless wimp. Put him to the front of the line! Go Michelle, Beat Vicky!

Thanks America for your consideration of this matter! Please vote Ed!

Sincerely, Me

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53. "You've Convinced me!"
Your speech convinced me that voting Ed is the way to go.

I keep picturing the two of them (Ed and Heba eating a weeks worth of the meal plans in one sitting)

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25. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
I so wish Icky Vicky had fallen below the yellow line.

I voted for Ed. Mainly because I'm spiteful and do NOT want to see both Vicky AND Hefa in the finale. Ugh.

I hope Michelle is working her little bum off!


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27. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
I have to leave the room whenever Vicky comes onto the screen. I hate the fact that Vicky is responsible for me not watching this show as much as I used to in past seasons. Looking at her just sitting there with a clueless look on her face when Bob asked if she learned anything about herself was too much. And Ed throwing the last weigh-in before the finals totally spoiled whatever was left of the Biggest Loser for me. Since when has this show become Survivor? I don't know if I can stomach watching the final... I may just skip it but I do want to find out what happens with Michelle. She is a nice person who has worked hard and who hasn't let the gameplay turn her into something ugly.

Because I'm so pi$$ed off, I would vote for Ed just to spoil their plans. In the event Ed doesn't get voted for, I don't think we need to worry about him. For a man, his weight loss hasn't been on par with other past male contestants who usually reach the 100 lb mark by this time. I think we have to watch out for Brady (unfortunately) but here's hoping for Phil, either Amy, Renee or Stacey to lose the most weight at home! Personally, my vote would be for Stacey. She rocked at the step challange and gave Ed a run for his money.


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31. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Let's hope we're representative of the majority of viewers of this show! I too voted for Ed last night, out of pure frustration with this season and the poor contestant choices that resulted in Heffa and Icky being on my tv screen once a week. Vicky most certainly does NOT deserve to have been on this show at all. Anytime her ugly mug is getting air time, I leave the room or fast forward through her part.

Heba does not deserve to be there more than anyone else. Being overweight myself, she and anyone else who has struggled to lose weight have my understanding and empathy. But just because you weighed the most coming into the game, does not entitle you to stay the longest - geez! She's a daddy's girl and it sure seems like she is used to getting her way. Ed knows his role is to make sure Heba gets what Heba wants. Hope it backfires this time.

I would love to see Michelle win the grand prize, and Renee win the secondary prize. To me, those two have demonstrated what the show is supposed to be about. They both gave it their all, without being drama queens about it. They seemed very supportive of their teammates efforts, and I think they both learned things about themselves in the process. I was so impressed to see Renee sharing the knowledge she gained to help others, leading exercise classes, sharing nutrition information, etc.

Of all the contestants this season, those two really mean a lot to me. They seem like truly nice people, and they gave it their all during every challenge. Unlike Icky who punked Jerry Rice and Steve Young! Ugh - I'll never forget that! She has totally dragged down the show for me!

And the producers' lame attempts to redeem her are just that - lame!!!


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32. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
You all have certainly made a great case to make sure that Ed makes it into the finale, the best of which is that it gives Michelle a better chance at winning. I agree.

On a side note, one of the guys at my office works out at the same gym as Michelle. He said she looks fantastic and hasn't let on at all about any of the drama going on at the house or that she made the final 3. I hope, hope, hope she wins it!

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54. "Redeeming Vicky"
It did seem like they were focusing a majority of the episode on Vicky, always making her the last one to look at her video or her former 'fat' self.

I think even the producers knew it was too little too late. I think they were just trying to balance it as it became fairly obvious that Vicky Vilcan was the Villain of the season.

It was pretty lame.

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33. "Did you call in your vote?"
I didn't. If you did, what were the 3 offers they spoke about on the show? Product placement? Glad, Jello, and Wrigley gum?



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61. "RE: Did you call in your vote?"

A Blessed Christmas season to all who welcome the Newborn King into their lives.

Anyone, Beuhler, Beuhler?????

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37. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Just wondering. How much water would one have to drink in order to gain 2 lbs? Keep in mind how much calories and sweat he would have expended during workouts.


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38. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Well, since one pound is 16 ounces, I would think he would have to drink 32 ounces, or 4 cups. Not that much.

But, I'm not taking into account the weight he LOST.

Sidenote: 32oz doesn't seem like much, but that's what I had to drink before my ultrasound, and I thought I was going to explode!

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39. "Sorry, incorrect."
Your 16 oz. is a weight. The 32 ounces is a volume. Not a compatible translation.

Water weighs roughly 8.2 lbs/gallon. So, to have a positive, Ed would have to guess how much he had lost and make up for that with water. If he felt he lost 10 lbs. by working out, he would have had to drink a gallon and a half of water to be at plus 2.

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40. "RE: Sorry, incorrect."
If I was going to water up I'd also pop some salt before drinking the water and if one has been eating low carb for awhile eat something starchy.

The way the body stores starch also holds water in the body (why a severe low carb diet makes you lose a lot right at the start, you no longer need as much water in your body). Your body wants to refill the starch stores when they are low so you tend to fill that back up quickly if you eat something starchy/sugary when you haven't for awhile. (why a lot of severe low carbers come to fear starchy foods they eat a bagel and retain 3-5 pounds of water with it that comes off as soon as they deplete the carbs stored in the body again)

Salt also helps you retain the water in the body so it doesn't have to all be in your stomach/bladder.

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42. "RE: Sorry, incorrect."
Duh. I feel like an idiot.

Especially with a degree in Chemistry.

Sorry for all the stupidiy.

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45. "RE: Sorry, incorrect."
Did anyone vote online? It let me vote unlimited times for Ed and I have gone back multiple times. It said only 10 times per email, but that doesnt seem to be the case. Anyone else experience that?
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57. "RE: Sorry, incorrect."
I was hoping that it would prevent me from going over 10 votes, but I wasn't really sure how many times I voted for Ed. I think it was more like 15. I just of...you know...stopped.
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44. "Alternate view"
I understand where Ed is coming from - he thinks this is chivarous. He thinks that this is how he protects and takes care of his wife; how he promotes her health.

I'm guess maybe I'm just less cynical than others, but I see his actions as pretty valorous. I know that I would probably jump on that grenade for my wife - thinking I'm the strong man and I don't need the show, she needs the help and the extra motivation. I believe that he is trying to keep his wife in the game because he loves her and I'm OK with that.


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46. "RE: Alternate view"
Yeah, I bought that the first time it happened between them this season. But this time it didn't really matter because they are both leaving the ranch for good.

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47. "RE: Alternate view"
OTOH, if he did it once why wouldn't he do it again? It's consistent with his character. Not knowing how the weigh-in would go, he assumed that tanking might guarantee her a spot that he wants her to have in the final. Barring the success of that strategy, he wants to step aside and have her voted in.


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48. "RE: Alternate view"
Oh yeah? Well, ur stoopud.

I understand what you're saying. And I think what most people are upset about, myself included, is not how chivalrous Ed may be, but that Hefa doesn't seem to be graciously accepting it as much as she controllingly demands it of him. Voting for Ed is not to spite Ed's efforts, but to spite Hefa's (perceived) manipulation of Ed.


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49. "RE: Alternate view"
Oh Heffer is a self-centered witch made less odious only by the fact that she has Icky around. I just respect that fact that Ed is demonstrating a servants heart and putting his wife first. His wife is certainly not returning the favor.


That and Ed already got a second chance, so I don't think anyone deserves a third on this show.

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62. "RE: Alternate view"
I understand what you're saying Pre - Rob would probably offer to do it for me. I would never let him do it.

I don't think he considers it cheating, just playing the game. I just wish there was a way to keep the contestants from being able to manipulate the scales like that.



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50. "RE: Alternate view"
I find nothing chivarous about it. He is lying and cheating to protect his wife over something like this. Lying and cheating at the expense of someone else's hard work.

I liked Ed. All along I liked Ed. And hopefully when he gets home and sees all of the episodes and all of the editing, he will realize what a complete and utter aras he is. He is "sworn" to it. I hope he has a happy life with it.

Tis the season.


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56. "liking Ed"
I thought I liked Ed but when I heard him say that this should be Bob's season, I got chills (and not in a good way). Is it me, or does Bob just seem to get most of the gameplayers or people who are just really hard to root for?
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55. "Ed's Gain"
Ed was really not the best at weight loss. Its entirely possible to me that he just gained weight and didn't waterload at all.

I just can't picture Ed being really ripped-ever. And working as a Chef has got to be a huge temptation. It made Erik (who owns a deli) from two seasons ago gain back 50 lbs.

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58. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
Ugh. I wasn't going to vote because I am so disgusted with the choice, but after reading the pleas here, I voted for Ed. I just hope he doesn't pull his head out and actually lose the weight he's capable of losing. (unless he knocks off Miss Piggy)

Gawd, how much do I despise Miss Piggy. I can not begin to convey how absolutly ill I become at the sight of her. *barf*

If she wins, I swear, it will ruin my day, perhaps even my holiday. I dunno, I might just throw something through the TV. Did I mention how much I can't stand that beeotch???

Heffa? Not much better than Miss Piggy, IMO. What a spoiled brat she is.



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63. "RE: Time to Vote!!!!!!"
I'm debating on whether to just record it and then watch after I know who wins. Because if it's Icky then I would delete before viewing that.


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64. "If Icky Wins..."
Id hate to see her win, but I know she'd be fat and broke in a year, so that would be fun. ;)

Wouldn't you hate not seeing the other 15 looking great? I can't miss that part. I have a feeling Renee, Stacey, Amy, Amy, Coleen, Shalay and Michelle are gonna look amazing!

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65. "RE: If Icky Wins..."
Ha! 80+% voted for Ed. Good job everyone! We won and Heba isn't happy!

You can read the episode thread for more details. Didn't want to spoil the show here.

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