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"MIB and Jacob-Breakdown of actions"
weltek 16933 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-26-10, 09:25 AM (EST)
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"MIB and Jacob-Breakdown of actions" |
I'm most intrigued by the comment MIB made about Jacob stealing his body. As briefly discussed a few times in the last episode thread, this could mean a reversal in assumptions we're being spoon fed about who has good intentions and who has evil intentions. While I hestitate to say there is purity in good vs. evil labels (as Frodis pointed out), I thought it might be interesting to look at each character's major actions from both perspectives: the action was done for "good" and the action was done for "evil."I'll start: Action: Jacob brings people to the island to see "progess." Possibilities of why it's an action for good: Jacob wants to see mankind given a chance to start from scratch and have purpose. See if they can change the trajectory of their life. Jacob wants to see the island protected from evil escaping and needs to build a force to do so. Others? Possibilities of why it's an action for evil: Jacob is a sick con man who wants to play with humanity and see how much someone from the island can influence a person's life off the island. Jacob wants to stay on the island where he's the ultimate man in control. He wants to "win the game." Action: MIB kills as "smokey" Possibilities of why it's an action for good: He knows the island is just a game for Jacob, so it doesn't matter. He wants to destroy the island and can only do that if Jacob is dead and there's nobody else to replace him. Thus, sacrifice everyone. Except the few that might be able to help him kill Jacob. Possibilities of why it's an action for evil: Killing people is evil. But I'm stuck here on "to what end" does he kill them. As I said above, is it to diminish the chances of Jacob gaining more recruits? Or is killing just a hobby? He seems quite focused in doing so and it's not random. He also just doesn't seem like a bloodthirsty lunatic. Others? Action: Jacob manipulates Hurley and Jack into breaking the compass and mirror in the lighthouse. I'm still LOST as to why he did that. -A Tribetastic Creation
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Tummy 3542 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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03-26-10, 10:05 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: MIB and Jacob-Breakdown of actions" |
If Smokey were truly evil why wouldn't he just wipe everyone out as soon as they got to the island? They had no protection against it/him. Why did he/it pick and choose for so long?
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michel 10812 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-26-10, 04:12 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: MIB and Jacob-Breakdown of actions" |
Ask the pilot that question...Oh! wait...
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michel 10812 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-27-10, 12:59 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: MIB and Jacob-Breakdown of actions" |
"Action: Jacob brings people to the island to see "progess."I've been thinking about this because it's one of the main question regarding Jacob's role: Manipulating people to come to the island and become pawns in his game is the main argument against Jacob "being good". But what if we have it slightly wrong? What if he brings the island to them instead? (How many islands do we know can move?!) Remember the crash of Oceanic 815 and tell me how could anyone have survived that? Considering the size of the Tsunami that shipwrecked the Black Rock in the middle of a jungle, tell me how did Ricardo survive? The island came to their rescue and wouldn't let them die. And, to answer more seriously the question of why doesn't Smokey kill everyone immediately, we know he has to follow the rules of the game. He cannot kill the candidates. But what is a candidate? The best definition I can come up with is someone that has been chosen by Jacob and is under his protection for whatever role or reason we have yet to be told outsides of "protecting the island". Besides the candidates, who else has been brought to the island and seems to be under Jacob's protection? Rose and Bernard of course. Here is a woman that would have died if the island hadn't saved her. Her marriage was on very shaky grounds because of Bernard's obsession with finding a cure. Bringing the island to them cured the cancer, fixed their marital problems AND gave them their own personal paradise. Please explain how Jacob isn't good in Rose's eyes?
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