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05-24-06, 10:35 PM (EST)
 
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2. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
Um...the show is still on. It was a two hour show.
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05-24-06, 11:12 PM (EST)
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3. "wow" |
wow, that is pretty retarded if this person turned it off after an hour and didn't even realize there was still an hour left in the show.
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05-24-06, 11:31 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: wow" |
and yet, her point was still valid after another 60 minutes of the show
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05-25-06, 02:19 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: wow" |
Eh, I'm not entirely sure I can agree. There are still a lot of unresolved issues hanging in the air, but I never expected there not to be. I enjoyed this finale much more than season one's, if only because we got some tasty morsels. Had the producers ended the show after the timer in the bunker stopped at zero, I would have found that analogous to season one and been cursing them yet again.
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05-25-06, 08:45 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: wow" |
I was refering to the "Locke/Eko and what's up with the answer to the plane crash". I personally don't believe that it was an accident. Therefore, her question still remains valid.
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05-24-06, 11:20 PM (EST)
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4. "Answers?" |
Once again I have more questions than answers.Ok, so we know it was Desmond and an electromagnetic pulse.
Does that mean the losties weren't brought to the island, it all was just a big accident. And why does the others want Sawyer, Kate and Jack?
Are they really letting Micheal and Walt go?
Is Henry the Leader of the Others?
Now that they have a satellite on the Island does that mean they get free Dish Network?
Is Sayid looking hotter with each epi?
Where's Locke and Eko and why isn't Charlie looking? so many questions so few answers. btw, I really dislike Micheal. And I would not kill innocent people to get my child back. Mount an army and kick some butt, yes. But he can not be redeemed from where he went.
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9. "RE: Answers?" |
>btw, I really dislike Micheal.
>And I would not kill
>innocent people to get my
>child back. Mount an
>army and kick some butt,
>yes. But he can
>not be redeemed from where
>he went. Agreed completely. I wasn't that fond of Micheal even before he turned to the dark side, but these past couple of weeks have left me fuming. When he and Walt pulled away in the boat, I thought to myself, forget Walt, I want the boat to blow up and disintegrate into a million smithereens. That would have been a just reward. Curious to see how Michael & Walt fit into season three though, if it all. My two initial ideas: Walt could convince his father to turn around and help Jack et. al., although I wouldn't find that very believaable. If they do indeed end up being saved, perhaps their appearance back amongst civilization will tip off Penelope on Desmond's location and how to reach the island.
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05-25-06, 09:39 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Answers?" |
btw, I really dislike Micheal. And I would not kill innocent people to get my child back. Mount an army and kick some butt, yes. But he can not be redeemed from where he went. Amen Tummy! I am so glad that he confessed to the murders and to selling out his friends. The only way I would like to see him return next season is to be locked up in whatever remains of the hatch as a prisoner. Where's Locke and Eko and why isn't Charlie looking? Hopefully both Locke and Eko are okay, especially that dreamy Eko. I think Charlie isn't looking because he is really messed up by the two explosions at the hatch. Or he could finally have the "sickness". Also, did it look like Michael had a rash or something weird on his arm? Could he have the sickness? Is there really a sickness?  I am SO watching this again.  
And yes, Sayid just keeps getting hotter and hotter. *swoon*
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05-24-06, 11:53 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
HELP! Cable lost signal in St. Louis metro area and missed the last 40 or so minutes of tonight's show. As many details as you can provide will be much appreciated!
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05-25-06, 00:28 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
Nice catch on Kelvin. I knew I had seen him before but couldn't remember where.
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05-25-06, 01:59 PM (EST)
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37. "Kevlin/Tom" |
I'm with Moonie on this, could someone do screenshots of the two side by side? thanks!
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05-26-06, 06:56 AM (EST)
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73. "RE: Kelvin & Tom: different actors" |
I know TV Guide referred to Kelvin as Kelvin Inman, but did they ever say Kelvin's last name on the show?
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05-26-06, 08:12 AM (EST)
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75. "RE: Another Kelvin question" |
Well, that finally explains everything. The island is the one just above Bikini Bottom, and the whole thing has been a cartoon since Day One. I'll take a Krabby Patty to go, please.
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05-25-06, 02:50 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-25-06 AT 03:04 AM (EST)I am not sure what you missed so will try to fill you in on what I best recall as the last hour: John convinced Desmond to help him lock Mr. Eko out of the bunker. They did and John broke the computer. While discussing, Desmond realize that the one time he had entered the numbers late was exactly when the plan crashed. He said it must all be real, grabbed a hidden key and told John he was going to save their lives. He used a vent to get to a device and used the key in it. The sky lit up, there was a deafening sound and the hatch lid flew through the air and almost took out a couple of the losties. We were left hanging. Sahid found the others' camp but it was a fake. After a number of scenes in which Jack got angry, Michael took Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley to a point where they could be ambushed by the others and tied up. Henry arrived started acting like the leader. He told Michael that Walt was in the motor boat and told him to use the boat to sail to civilization. He told Walt that once he left, he would never again find the island. He also told Walt that the others are "the good guys. The others released Hurley and told him to return to camp and tell the rest of the survivors to stay away. The others blindfolded Jack, Sawyer and Kate. Kate managed to look scared. Sawyer looked worried. Jack looked pissed but that just might be his normal expression. We were left hanging. Meanwhile two Russian guys playing chess in some type of outpost noted a warning on their instruments about a magnetic surge and called Desmonds girlfriend to tell her that they thought they had found what she was looking for. We were left hanging. That girl with the baby (forget her name) kissed Charlie. We were left hanging but surprisingly disinterested in how this might play out. Closing credits, very little resolved and any answers that were provided just raised a bunch more questions. We were left hangin.
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05-25-06, 07:47 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
Coupla things.The big bird/bat that flew at Jack, Hurley, Sawyer and Kate? Was that a joke on last season finale spoiler that a huge CGI reptile like bird would fly at those on the raft? When Desmond first was back I loved how he went through more of the theories that have been floating around on message boards: That there is no other world left, they are in a giant snowglobe, and I forget what else. So what was with that giant foot? I got a real vibe that it was very Stephen King-ish this episode. I still feel Walt is evil. Maybe he is the one controlling Micheal.
Tom? Was that the name AL used with Jack's father?
Charlie was really weird at the end. I thought we would actually see the plane crash again and why. Yay Clancy Brown! Overall I really liked it a whole lot more than the first finale. 
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05-25-06, 09:30 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
I still feel Walt is evil. Maybe he is the one controlling Micheal.There was something really off about Walt. I couldn't believe he didn't at the least call out to Hurley, much less comment about the other three being tied up. Tom? Was that the name AL used with Jack's father? Yep. She called him Tom, he called her Sarah. Charlie was really weird at the end. Yes he was! I thought it was because I have never cared for Charlie, but he was most definitely odder than usual. He gave me the heebie jeebies. I love the finale too! We got some important questions answered, but we got a whole bunch of new ones. I cannot wait for September! <Locke voice> We're going to have to watch that again.</Locke voice>
Zombie!!!! *smooch*
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05-25-06, 02:42 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
But I still think that locke is right.
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05-25-06, 09:04 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
There are no coincidences on Lost.Kelvin mentioned that he has been in the military. Either Kelvin and Joe are twins (i.e. Bad Twins) or Kelvin is Joe. Dave is David. How did he die? Tom Friendly must be Ana Lucia's Tom. Big foot sculpture. I was getting an ancient civilization vibe from the ruins. Perhaps there were people on the island before the Dharma gang. Sets up a whole new bunch of possibilities. Why Jack, Sawyer and Kate? It cannot be power or they would have wanted Sayid and Locke. We know (think) that Henry likes Locke enough to keep him alive and in the hatch but that still leaves Sayid. The only unique thing about these three is their relationship (love triangle). Will there be newcomers to the island next season? There was a system failure so presumably there will be another plane \ boat\ balloon arriving soon. Desmond's dishonourable discharge. If the plane crashed in 04, Desmond was in the hatch for three years and he was in prison for ? years, it is probably not Desert Storm (1990) although I think there is still a possible Joe Brown \ Sayid connection? Kosovo would have been 1999...were the Brits involved with that? Somalia was also mid 90's....is that where Eko is from? Loved the finale!!!!!! 
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05-25-06, 09:18 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
I agree with the bad twin theory. And Walt gave me that vibe when he was given back to Michael on the boat. Something just wasn't right.As for the foot, could it related to the Dharma animal experiments (since it had four toes?). I also thought about another crash of some sort because of the failure. New Losties? What was Jack & Kate's little "eye conversation" before the bags were placed over their heads? I have a feeling either Hurley or Michael (or maybe both) will go find Sayid. Both know where he's at, and lauch a rescue effort. So why did the Others NOT want Kate when they had her hostage a few episodes back (when Jack, Sawyer & Locke went to chase after Michael & confront them)? They could've taken her then. Now they want her. For that matter, they could've kidnapped Jack & Sawyer after the guns were down. Apparently wanting Kate, Jack & Sawyer has been a new development.
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05-25-06, 09:52 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
Weltek, they cetainly could've taken them at that time. Although, since that scene in the jungle, Henry Gale did get to know the Losties. Did he use his time with the computer to communicate with the Others? He could have given orders to Ms Klugh to get Micheal to come save him and also communicated the list. But then, I'm not sure if Henry ever met Hurley.Another question I have is about the button: We can now assume Henry did enter the code when Locke was trapped. There were no malfunctions then. Why did he lie about it? The malfunction didn't appear to be in their plans, however lying about it only reinforced Locke's intention to stop pushing it. The answer I come up with is that the Others had no idea about the button or its consequences. Henry just wanted to mess with Locke. They know about hatches and have used at least one computer (the one Walt used to communicate with Micheal) but aren't aware of the other parts of the Dharma Initiave. That would make them part of the experiment rather than part of the analysts. 
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05-25-06, 10:46 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
Ok - I'm a fairly new person to Lost - so I wouldnt say I'm as acutly aware of things like most of you. I actually rented the first season and go so hooked - I downloaded season 2 on my IPOD. Here are a few of my questions/thoughts.The bird - did say Hurley's name. The Russians were saying something about "being late again" which leads me to believe they are also "pushing a button". My theory is that Kates father is the head of the initiative. I believe it has been noted or said somewhere that the Michael character will not be on much but that Walt's will. I think it was in the TV guide but not sure where I read it. So it will be interesting to see what happens - but I highly doubt that Michael and Walt will be allowed to just leave. The Dave/Elisabeth/Hurley connection will be interesting to see and since they have already said that whe will be back next year in flash backs and her character even though dead will be shown a lot - I'd say we will find out quickly enough. Locke and Eko - where the heck are they I believe they will both be ok but who knows - I never thought they'd kill off some of the other characters. Favorite part of the show was Lockes "I was wrong" I think that could have many meanings more then just about pushing the button.
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05-25-06, 11:48 AM (EST)
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29. "Question about crash & the button" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-25-06 AT 12:38 PM (EST)ETA the fifth crashed item on the island, as others below pointed out. We know for sure of five times someone was drawn off course to the island. 1) Rosseau & her crew
2) Desmond & his boat
3) The Real Henry Gale & his balloon
4) The Losties & their plane
5) The Nigerian drug plane (with Eko's brother) If the system failure drew the plane off course & crashed it, what about the other times? Were those system failures, too? And Desmond's boat coming back in last night's episode (not being able to sail away from the island), that wasn't during a system failure.
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05-25-06, 02:27 PM (EST)
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39. "Don't forget the Black Rock" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-25-06 AT 02:28 PM (EST)I've thought for a long while now that the island has drawn boats, planes, etc. for centuries. I don't think the swan station is the source of the magnetic field, but rather that it's an amplifier. Furthermore, I don't think the Others are Dharma Initiative. I think they're survivors of other vessels that have been drawn to the island. When Michael asked Faux Henry who they were, he replied "we're the good guys". I think the Others believe the Dharma folks to be the "bad guys" who are the cause of them being marooned there. I also think Season 3 might focus on this history between the Others and the Dharmas. As for Desmond causing the 815 crash, it's possible. Since the super magnet was unleashed on the day of the crash and 815 being a rather large aircraft, it's plausible to me that, in the case of 815, it was chance that brought that plane down. I'm not saying I think that's what happened because I'm undecided on that, just that it's plausible.  Fester
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49. "RE: Don't forget the Black Rock" |
I was thinking the same thing about the Black Rock--obviously something has been going on on that island for a long time. Dharma started using the phenomenon to their own purposes. Didn't Kelvin (the guy who made Sayid torture his former military pals and Desmond's partner in the hatch--I don't think it's the same guy as Tom. Played by guy who was on ER for a while--the love interest of the dr on crutches--can't recall her name.) say that the purpose of the timer/button was to release the build up of the magnetic force every 108 minutes. Was that build up due to something Dharma was doing or part of the natural phenomenon? Now what since the button can't be used to release the build up if it wasn't due to Dharma?I also think that the system failure could have caused the problem with the plane--not that it did for sure. Some are saying no way because the magnetic field would not have been strong enough to pull the plane apart. But, I'm not buying that argument. Couldn't the magnetic field have so screwed with the plane's navigational system that the pilot put the plane through manuvers it was never meant to endure, thus compromising it's structural integrity and causing it to break up? Also, faux Henry told Michael to follow a course setting of 325 degrees (think that number's right). Now, this island obviously has some magnetic issues. How can any compass or navigational device be trusted? Especially with the use of the failsafe key, I would think that the magnetic force around the island would be even more screwy and definitely different than what it was prior to the failsafe being used. I imagine that due to that we will see M&W again. Although, they could do away with M altogether, imo. And I agree with previous posters--W was definitely a different kid than before the Others got hold of him--but could that be attributed to whatever they've been doing to him since he was taken? Did anyone else notice the voices prior to the Losties being shot with the taser-like darts? Sounded like they were saying the names of the 4 Michael was leading into the trap. The first thing I thought of when Sayid went to the camp was a movie set or play--but that was the feeling I had when they showed Michael there, too. No real evidence of living there. Was it not the same beach? I'm unclear on this. Was M told to bring them back to the beach? Were we privy to the directions of where to bring them? Was M leading them to a different place? That threw me. Any insights, clarifications? Obviously, those weapons they used on the 4 were not something that 'hillbillies' would have access to. I don't for one second think they were actually living in those huts on the beach--I'm leaning more to the fact that the camp Sayid went to was the one M was taken to--a fake both times. Just unoccupied the second time. Please let me know if I'm overlooking something here.
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51. "RE: Don't forget the Black Rock" |
Related to this--what was with Kelvin wearing the chemical suit 1) when he knew it wasn't an issue, as we saw in the scene before he met his demise, 2) when he was "alone" on the island--Desmond's flashback of the day he washed up on the beach shows Kelvin wearing it. Why? I understand he wanted to keep Desmond in the dark while he fixed the boat uninterrupted and in order to be able to leave D there punching the buttons, but why before that? No one to impress or fool. Stumped.
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05-26-06, 12:03 PM (EST)
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78. "RE: Don't forget the Black Rock" |
Maybe at the time Desmond washed on shore, Kelvin still believed the tale of the illness which he had been told (by Dharma?). He could have come to the conclusion the illness was not real only later.
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55. "RE: Henry's comment" |
the problem I immediately saw with "Walt" staying on the show for many seasons is that he will "age" light years...the actor is growing and I immediately said WOW he sure lost the boyish looks and charm (which fits into being taken) but he was only "gone" for about 25 days and aged the year IRL...a kid his age grows through a lot of changes....
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79. "RE: Henry's comment" |
Is it possible Walt somehow cloned himself while in captivity and that is why unHenry said "we got more than we bargained for". Then we could really have a "Bad Twin".
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05-25-06, 03:07 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Question about crash & the button" |
Yet another "crash" could've happened at the start of this season after the Others exploded the raft while taking Walt. Sawyer and Michael were drifting on pieces of the raft and somehow ended up washing up on a beach near the tailies. It's another case of being "pulled" back to the island.I also find it interesting, considering the name of this episode "Live Together, Die Alone," that it ended with the main characters separated:
Claire, Charlie, Rose and Bernard at the beach
Sayid, Sun, and Jin on the sailboat
Michael and Walt on the Others' boat
Jack, Kate, and Sawyer with the Others
Echo, Locke, and Desmond in the hatch... maybe alive
Hurley headed back to the beach... alone
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46. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread Season 2 Finale: 05-24-06" |
There is no doubt that if the numbers are not pushed then something drastic happens, but in the instances when we have seen the numbers being late, such as when locke got caught under the door, there was no awful sound or light.....I think that locke is still right and that it was an experiment. Desmond was led to a believe that the magnet was a geological phenomenon, but it was an electromagetic field....when the numbers are punched the field remains at a constant frequency but if the buttons aren't pushed the the field increases, once you experience this then as last night shows, it would work as incentive to continue pushing the button. I think that once desmond turned the key, it in effect aborted the experiment and quenched the magenetic field.
The guys in the snow detected a magnetic surge....but what they reported to Pen I don't know....my theory is that since the field was quenched it is possible to now detect the tracking device on desmonds boat and that was what they were looking for.....or not....Another question, was the camp really abandoned or was it that they all went to ambush jack, sawyer and kate....that would mean that sayid still has the element of surprise and could plot to somehow free them.....maybe walt will allow something to happpen, as he did with the bird and backgammon(season 1). I guess we will be back for a season three.....should be interesting
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05-25-06, 04:48 PM (EST)
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56. "Oh my." |
Wow. Crazy. They really pulled out all the stops on this finale, and I would say it made the season 1 finale look like a piece of crap. I loved it. For a while Lost was just kinda eh and I wasn't even sure if it was worth following closely anymore but this? This is gonna make me come back in Season 3 (which I'm sure is what the producers were going for when they made the finale  ).I like how we actually have answers (or at least what we think are answers), yet there are still questions. Obviously. A few things that come to mind. Maybe not a "few", but you get the point: - The Others' camp, with a fake hatch. That means they put it there just for the purpose of fooling Michael? Huh? - The "statue" that was just a foot that only had 4 toes...it seemed kind of cartoonish and strange. - What's with the hieroglyphics on the timer? Obviously they have to reset it but what do the hieroglyphics have to do with anything? - How did the "Quarantine" door just come falling out of the sky? - Are Locke and Eko fine, and what about Desmond? - (Still) Where is the island, why do the Others not want to be found, and what makes them say that they won't be no matter what? - How come everything turned all white when Desmond turned the key (perhaps this is some physics-related question that I don't know the answer to, not necessarily a strange thing in the show..)? - How is it that by following a certain bearing, Michael and Walt are just saved? - Why did the Others want Jack, Kate and Sawyer, and is it just a coincidence that they happen to be in a bit of a "love triangle"? - What kinds of tests did they have Walt do, and what's the point of them? - Most importantly of all, is the show going to start involving characters not on the island? The idea of that is just so odd, I really hope they aren't going to. *Sigh* Still a good episode nonetheless, I just hope we get the answers to all these questions in the last season. Good luck, JJ and Damon. 
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05-25-06, 05:17 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Oh my." |
One more, that I'm not sure if anyone has posted any thoughts about yet.The big pile of notebooks that the Losties found just before they got darted by the Others. Presumably, these are the notebooks of the people who were in "The Pearl", filled out and blown out the pneumatic tube (since Locke's map was found there too, and he shot that up the tube.) There are a heck of a lot of notebooks in the pile. Years worth. Who, then, were the subjects of the experiment? The Swan people? The Pearl people? Neither? Someone else? Or is there not an experiment afterall? (I also wonder how the notebooks are intact after however many years, and not blown apart, rained on, and generally turned into notebook goo after being out in the elements. But maybe I just need to suspend my disbelief on that one.)
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soldiersmom 126 desperate attention whore postings
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05-25-06, 06:24 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Oh my." |
Or maybe the tubes themselves were built to be far enough away from the pearl that those inside the pearl would never expect it was an experiment and not necessary. We are being led to assume that pushing the buttons is important - but that the pearl part was not - mmmmmmm another ?
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05-25-06, 06:29 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: Oh my." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-25-06 AT 06:34 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 05-25-06 AT 06:32 PM (EST) Emy, I think the writers have thought of a way out for Walt's age issues. Alex, Rousseau's daughter, looks older than 16 so they could say a side effect of the "sickness" or of the vaccine they take is to age faster. It would enable Walt to continue without loss of credibility. Jimbo, nice observation about the tube and the geography of the island. That tube had to be very long! On the snow globe possibility, I thought the white light special effect was to suggest the opening of a "portal" to another dimension. The arctic station could be monitoring the pulses emitted when both worlds come in contact. The island could still be a "snow globe" or a world of its own. Das mole; you have more questions than can be answered but with regards to the list of names: Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley have all spend a lot of time in the hatch and have all expressed their disdain at pushing the button. Could it be they were taken away to stop influencing the rest? Hurley, I first thought was just tagging along to report back on what happened. Could it be that the Others have realized the button isn't an issue anymore, now that someone has activated the failsafe? Hurley was one of the "good ones" so they don't need to keep him captive. They first want to get rid of the bad ones.
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05-26-06, 12:10 PM (EST)
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80. "RE: Oh my." |
I am not convinced the hatch Sayid found was fake. What I think is that the inside wall he found was fake / camouflage. There is a way to get past it.
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05-25-06, 09:13 PM (EST)
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64. "I knew Walt was off the show...." |
...the second I saw him in last week's episode and the first thing I noticed was how much older/taller/bigger he looked, like a normal boy going through puberty over the course of a year...definitely too much growth for a boy on an island for 40-50 days.As soon as I saw him I knew they were gonna write him off the show before this season was over. I don't expect we'll be seeing Walt ever again.
Which really makes me wonder how much planning is going into the writing and how much is just reactionary. They created this amazing mysterious back story for Walt in season one and now he is gone without that story ever being flushed out.
Same with Libby...I thought it was odd that she was killed off w/o her presence in the mental hospital ever being explained. Did she go crazy when the guy she gave the boat to disappeared during the middle of the race?
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05-25-06, 10:01 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: I knew Walt was off the show...." |
I wonder that too. I would think they would at least tape ahead his scenes if they knew where the story with him was going.
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05-25-06, 10:03 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: I knew Walt was off the show...." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-25-06 AT 10:06 PM (EST)Hello Shakes, it's been a while since I've seen your posts. There could be some answers to your questions: Executive producer Carlton Cuse in an interview: “The Others are an important part of season three, and there's a lot of mysteries and a lot of questions about the Others that the audience is going to be curious about going into season three. And those are the things we're going to explore. There will definitely be some new characters on the show next year.
Obviously, Michael Emerson, who plays Henry Gale, he's someone who's going to be very prominent in the show next year. Fans were also introduced to a new character who promises to figure in next season's storylines: Penelope Widmore, played by Sonya Walger."
Harold (Michael) was interviewed today and he said his character wasn't intended to return next season, so he can look for work. He was told they could bring him back later. He said, “Wouldn't it be great if in season 4, I came and brought a rescue crew.”
I’m guessing that once the Others’ story is revealed we will see Micheal return, even if it’s without the rescue team. And where Micheal goes, Walt will follow. Like Desmond, they’ll have gone in a circle. I know it could be a stretch to explain Walt’s accelerated growth by the sickness’ side effects but this is LOST, isn’t it? In an interview by producer Ausiello said concerning Libby: “I'm not revealing the final answer because Libby's backstory will continue to unravel next season.” It appeared she was sent to give a boat to Desmond. Could she also have been sent to follow Hurley in the asylum? Penelope Widmore could reveal those answers.
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05-25-06, 10:07 PM (EST)
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67. "Libby's backstory" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-25-06 AT 10:11 PM (EST)We've been promised by Lindelof that Libby's backstory will be told posthumously, presumably through other folks' flashbacks. From Spoilerfix:
Damon Lindelof : Libby's got this mysterious backstory, of which we've only given you the tip of the iceberg. We know she's spent some time in the mental institution with Hurley, and the idea of killing her before she had an opportunity to explain how she got there... we have a master plan for how we're going to tell that story, but it's all posthumous. ETA: As for Walt, I agree. He's done. His story, or rather his "powers" (since his story has been told more or less) will probably be revealed through notes recovered from his "tests" or through 1st-hand accounts of the Others. Fester
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05-26-06, 02:19 AM (EST)
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71. "I dunno..." |
Yes, it could certainly go down that way, but it wouldn't surprise me if the season 3 premier was a Walt flashback that got us to the Micheal/Walt boatride out of there. It seems like the age thing is going to have to be address somehow because it appears they are intent upon bringing people outside the island into the show and what better way to do that than to let someone go escape. If they do that, unless they kill Walt off they will have to deal with the growth issues even if it is a wink and a nod passing comment like "you've gotten so big" or "the part of Walt is now being played by XYZ".Personally I'm leaning towards Micheal will escape the island, but Walt is in "the room" and is only projecting himself onto the boat, kinda like he was doing with Shannon except he's perfected it now... perhaps he doesnt even know he's not there until the final 5 minutes just before the rescue boat meets up with them, he turns to his Dad and says something like "Dad, you know I'm not really here" and poof he disappears. This would give Micheal a reason to try and get back to the island (something Henry told him he could never do once he left), and a reason for him to hook up with the Widmore chick in the process. This also gives the added bonus of letting Walt interact with fellow captives Jack/Sawyer/Kate with the potential that he might be able to free them. -ICB ...or like you said, maybe they ride off into the sunset never to be seen again... I like my way better
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05-26-06, 04:27 PM (EST)
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82. "Desmond causing the plane crash? I don't buy it." |
I don't quite buy Desmond's theory that he crashed the plane by not punching in the numbers on time.Unless my memory is all screwed up, there wasn't all that much damage to the hatch and surrounding area when he didn't enter the numbers. However, in the latest incident, the damage happened fast and furious. Some of it could have been from Desmond using the 'fail-safe key' or whatever the heck he called it, but there certainly was a lot of wreckage in a very short time before he used the key. It almost suggests that this current Red Alert was longer and/or caused a stronger magnetic disturbance than the first one. Just how long and powerful was Desmond's original incident if there wasn't much damage? According to the Oceanic pilot, six hours into the flight, they encountered problems with their radio so he decided to fly to Fiji. Approximately 2 hours later the plane hit turbulence, began to nosedive and then broke apart and crashed on the island. To me, that suggests the first sign of problems was at least 2 hours before the crash, or 8 hours after taking off from Australia. If Desmond's incident couldn't do much damage to the area in and around the hatch during the Red Alert time, how could it be able to zap a plane off it's intended course hundreds (or thousands?) of miles away and cause it to crash on the island 2 hours later? Since the current (most recent) incident seemed stronger and longer, I'd suggest the Losties, Others, Danielle and any other unknown denizens of the island be on the look out for more plane crashes. Not just one, but several, maybe even boats, birds and space craft and flying saucers, since this one seemed to be much stronger.
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Carebear42 9 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-06, 11:02 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: Desmond causing the plane crash? I don't buy it." |
Not sure how to respond to what I want to respond to, but this is not about how Desmond caused/didn't cause the crash.
My thoughts on the episode:
1) Penelope tells Desmond something to the effect of "anyone with money can find anyone." I believe that somehow Penny found out that she should be looking for magnetic anomalies to find Des, and that is the reasoning behind the monitoring station. 2) Hurley is a huge question mark for me. Why did they insist that Michael bring him, if they were just going to release him? Why did it HAVE to be Hurley, and not someone else? Why was Hurley the only one who did not get shot with the taser tag? (I'm guessing because he's the only one of the 4 who would not fight back, but still seems a little fishy) Why did the giant bird thingy call out his name? Seems like there is more going on with Hurley than we ever imagined. 3) It would not surprise me if Desmond, Locke and Eko were dead. Locke is somewhat of a surprise considering how much of a central character he's been, but it's been all the rage nowadays to kill off main/central characters on TV shows. Although, if Desmond were dead, it would kind of make Penny's search for him seem stale and pointless. 4) I too noticed the looks that Kate and Jack exchanged at the dock, and I, for one can't wait to see what they have up their sleeves. I'm also curious as to the selection of the 4. Jack, Kate, and Sawyer are obvious choices if the Others want to take the leadership/strong people from the losties, but again I ask, why Hurley? A more logical fourth choice would be Locke or Sayid. Anyway, it was a lot to digest, and I just felt the need to post my thoughts. Till next season
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