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"Henry Gale's story makes no sense"
TeamJoisey 3556 desperate attention whore postings
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03-30-06, 10:34 PM (EST)
 
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"Henry Gale's story makes no sense" |
Why would Henry Gale spin a story that is demonstrably false? He chose a false name connected to a corpse on the island. There are very few things these Losties can verify, but one of them is the identity of Henry Gale. Wouldn't it make more sense to claim to be Harry Smith, adventurist, who crashed on the island with balloon partner Henry Gale, who died and is buried under a pile of rocks. For that matter, why not use your real name? It's not like he's Gary Hogeboom or anything. And why the story about the wife? Was that to make him seem credible? The whole thing was weak from the beginning because anyone ballooning 1,000 miles out in the ocean would be surrounded by support aircraft. A good con man requires spinning the info you have, not fabricating foolishness. So what is the purpose of the elaborate and dumb lie?  
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03-31-06, 03:57 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: I disagree" |
From his first appearance on the show, I was not convinced that Henry Gale was one of the Others. I still am not convinced. Yes, he has made a big mistake by lying to everyone about who he is, but there is one key factor that still has me thinking he is someone else - Both Ethan and Goodwin (?), the others we have seen, had one thing in common, that they both said they came from Canada. Now, I could be totally wrong on this one, but it seems to me that it is just too much of a coincidence that they both say they are from Canada. Also, we have not been introduced to any other characters, regular or not, that said they were from Canada. (Yes, Kate say she was at one point, but I seem to remember it being part of one of her cons.)I'm getting a feeling that Canada is taboo, or possibly the generic cover-up for the Others.
skyisbluu
"One morning, I shot an elephant in my pyjamas. How he got into my pyjamas, I'll never know." PS: I am also Canadian, and I kinda like the fact that our country could be taboo.
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03-31-06, 10:36 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: I disagree" |
Assuming you saw the Canadian preview, unless it is huge misdirection, he almost has to know the others pretty well...Link to CAN Preview, but Youtube has been taking a lot off for Copyright Infringement, may not be there for long: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SooKRj86vfY Certainly different than the U.S. Preview  Bob Factoid: The fishercat is the only creature known to have gone completely insane chasing its own tail
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03-31-06, 10:16 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Henry Gale's story makes no sense" |
I'd posted the same thought in the East Coast Spoiler Thread "Possible clues from Henry's actions" --- why didn't he escape when he had the chance? As a matter of fact, I was shocked to see him standing there, I'd expected him to be gone. He must have had a really good reason to stay, but what?
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04-02-06, 00:34 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Henry Gale's story makes no sense" |
>It's hard for me to beleive that at this point the
>Losties could actually be one up on the others, you
>know?
Maybe there is a way for Henry not to be one of the Others. Could he have been a "small time worker-bee" in one of the abandoned hatches? I get the feeling there's a difference between the Others and the hatch attendants (such as Desmond.was). The Others are running the Dharma Initiative experiment from the looks of it (bad guys), the attendants are just the guinea pigs or lab workers (aka computer attendees) in the experiment making them neutral or not-so-bad guys. To me, they seem to be on two different sides. If Henry was only the hatch attendant or worker-bee, he wouldn't really be one of the Others the way he sees himself.
Whoever drew the map on the hatch door obviously had time to explore the island. Didn't Desmond say there were 2 people in the Losties' hatch originally (Desmond and somebody else)? One could have stayed to do the numbers, one explored. Assume that Henry was assigned to another hatch, he and his hatchmate took turns doing number duty and exploring. If the hatchmate stumbled on the balloon, found the real Henry dead, he could have buried him and told our fake Henry about it. Hatchmate would have had a chance to find the ID but probably didn't bother mentioning the race (or our fake Henry knew but didn't think the Losties would have what it takes to dig up a body and find out the truth). He wasn't planning on getting caught, so on short notice he decided to use the balloon crash story, knowing there was some evidence there to back him up if need be. For all we know, Desmond is still on the island. Danielle probably hasn't seen him, might not even know he exists. If she were to catch him, she'd assume he's one of the Others. She caught our fake Henry instead and assumed he's one of the Others since she hadn't seen him with the Losties. Again, assuming the fake Henry has experience in a hatch, he'd know how important it is to enter the numbers on time. It could explain why he didn't try to escape and why he remembered the numbers correctly. Either the sequence was the same as what he had to enter, or he made darn sure he got them right because there'd be no time for a second try at it. In the preview he's being interrogated about what he knows about the Others. He might not know much, but he would certainly have picked up some info that he could reveal under duress. He probably also knows enough about the Others to not want to be turned loose and get picked off by them. Right now he's between a rock and a hard place. Either reveal he was working in a hatch, possibly spilling secrets that he knows the Dharma Initiative doesn't want revealed, or he claims to be an Other and suffer the wrath of the Losties (specially Sayid who's itching to get even about Shannon's death). Maybe somebody will think of asking Henry the Snowman question, see if he answers it? If he really is an outsider who crashed on the island, he wouldn't know the answer or wouldn't react suspiciously.
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Fishercat 4168 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-06, 00:02 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Henry Gale's story makes no sense" |
There are a few possibilities that have and haven't been mentioned.This seems too weak to be planned, unless it was meant that way. From what we see on the Canadian preview and prior shows Zeke, Ethan, and Henry (I'll call him that for now) all have superiors. On the preview, Henry says the bearded guy is "nothing". I can only assume Zeke as the bearded guy. Ethan reported to other people in the medical hatch. Henry says that they will kill him in the previews. Focusing on Henry, he is not an imposing person and doesn't seem like an incredibly intelligent man. Zeke led both the kidnapping of Walt and the trade of arms for Kate, so we can assume he has some field prowess. Ethan made mincemeat of everyone until Charlie shot him. But Henry? He doesn't have many redeeming qualities outside of being sneaky, and I doubt that would be of much good to the Others. So, could Henry simply be a pawn? Danielle has been there for over a decade, and is this the first other she's caught? We don't know, but logically, they would know about the traps by now if they are so smart. Henry seems to be a bottom of the food chain guy, we never saw him before. I'm willing to believe that they would use him as a pawn possibly. Maybe to infiltrate the camp. He has many uses no matter what and minimal loss is made A. He is shot as soon as he gets close by Danielle: Nothing
B. He is taken into the camp, interrogated, then killed: The Losties gain some nerves about these people again, a reminder
C. He is taken into the camp, interrogated, and he is there long enough to cause disruptions. Say, between Jack and Locke? That may be worth it, to cause a disrpution
D. He is taken in, interrogated, there for a while, and then his cover story is blown. He does A-C, but he also is able to tell them about how bad the Others are, instill doubt and scare them
E. Suppose Sayid isn't suspicious, and they let him stay. He is the new Ethan without the problem of the manifest. He is their scout, and he could cause a lot of havoc. Of course, he could have simply been trapped by mistake, but I doubt it, too simple for a group that seems to have an upperhand strategically. I agree, there is no reason to make up a story that can be disproven. He could have said that "I am (name), my partner Henry Gale died in a balloon accident when we crashed to the island". They find Gale, they find the balloon, nothing to disprove the story. Also, if he were caught and kept for days, and he has a backup story given by the Others meant to keep him alive, why would they keep the ID on the body? Something doesn't ring right here... Bob Factoid: The fishercat is the only creature known to have gone completely insane chasing its own tail.
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moonbaby 17013 desperate attention whore postings
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04-02-06, 10:26 AM (EST)
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he might have been instructed by the Others to get captured intentionally and he is supposed to disrupt things. He was working on pitting Locke vs. Jack pretty diligently. The condition he gave for helping Locke in the locke-down (heehee) episode was that Locke would stick up for him no matter what. I can see Locke holding up his end of the bargain and now that Fake Gale's story has been proven false the rift between Jack and Locke may grow greater.
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