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"Character discussion thread"
I thought it would be useful, now that we're getting more info on each character, to have a thread where we can go just to discuss character development/storylines and any ideas we have about their pasts/futures.

I have a few ideas but it seemed silly to start separate threads for each characters because it would be too hard to keep up with that many individual threads. So...

I'll start a post for each character and then we can branch off from there, okay?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Locke PhoenixMons 01-13-05 1
   RE: Locke nailbone 01-13-05 17
   What we know about Locke PhoenixMons 01-13-05 18
       RE: What we know about Locke SurvivaBear 01-13-05 19
           RE: What we know about Locke J I M B O 01-13-05 22
       More about Locke nailbone 01-20-05 43
       RE: What we know about Locke esquire 01-20-05 44
           RE: What we know about Locke mrc 01-20-05 45
               RE: What we know about Locke joannie 02-24-05 69
                   RE: What we know about Locke volsfan 02-24-05 70
                       RE: What we know about Locke dabo 03-01-05 74
           RE: What we know about Locke mommy2bree 05-30-05 108
   RE: Locke realitycoholic 02-25-05 71
       RE: Box Company silentJ 03-09-05 78
           RE: Box Company dabo 03-09-05 79
               RE: Box Company J I M B O 03-09-05 84
                   RE: Box Company realitycoholic 03-11-05 88
   RE: Locke FunTimeLost One 03-24-05 92
   RE: Locke KLicK 03-31-05 96
   Locke's Mother AugustGirl 04-02-05 97
   Locke's Father AugustGirl 04-02-05 98
 Jack PhoenixMons 01-13-05 2
   RE: Jack J I M B O 01-13-05 23
   RE: Jack brewerr 01-16-05 34
       RE: Jack FunTimeLost One 03-24-05 93
   RE: Jack Risti 04-06-05 100
       RE: Jack KLicK 04-06-05 101
   RE: Jack trigirl 05-27-05 104
 Kate PhoenixMons 01-13-05 3
   RE: Kate brewerr 01-13-05 21
   RE: Kate brewerr 01-29-05 54
   RE: Kate Roo 02-17-05 56
   RE: Kate FunTimeLost One 03-24-05 94
   RE: Kate trigirl 05-27-05 105
       RE: Kate joannie 05-30-05 109
 Charlie PhoenixMons 01-13-05 4
   RE: Charlie brewerr 01-16-05 35
       RE: Charlie trigirl 03-09-05 80
           RE: Charlie LookeeLoo 03-09-05 86
               RE: Charlie TenPin 03-11-05 89
                   RE: Charlie LookeeLoo 03-11-05 90
   RE: Charlie FunTimeLost One 03-24-05 95
 Sawyer PhoenixMons 01-13-05 5
   RE: Sawyer SurvivaBear 01-13-05 20
       RE: Sawyer J I M B O 01-13-05 24
           RE: Sawyer amea_gari 01-14-05 27
   RE: Sawyer Roo 02-17-05 57
       RE: Sawyer jkokoj 02-17-05 60
   RE: Sawyer PhoenixMons 02-17-05 58
       RE: Sawyer AugustGirl 02-17-05 62
           RE: Sawyer JustLis 05-27-05 107
               RE: Sawyer joannie 05-30-05 110
 Sayid PhoenixMons 01-13-05 6
   RE: Sayid brewerr 01-16-05 36
   RE: Sayid's passport Lost 05-31-05 112
 Sun PhoenixMons 01-13-05 7
   RE: Sun nailbone 01-13-05 16
       RE: Sun joannie 01-26-05 50
       RE: Sun brewerr 02-03-05 55
   RE: Sun trigirl 01-26-05 49
 Claire PhoenixMons 01-13-05 8
   RE: Claire brewerr 01-16-05 37
 Boone PhoenixMons 01-13-05 9
   RE: Boone brewerr 01-16-05 38
   RE: Boone's eyes Chez 04-04-05 99
   RE: Boone FunTimeLost One 04-07-05 103
 Shannon PhoenixMons 01-13-05 10
   RE: Shannon joannie 01-15-05 29
   RE: Shannon spacey 01-26-05 51
   RE: Shannon trigirl 09-23-05 118
 Michael PhoenixMons 01-13-05 11
   RE: Michael joannie 01-15-05 32
       RE: Michael joannie 01-23-05 47
 Walt PhoenixMons 01-13-05 12
   RE: Walt joannie 01-15-05 30
   RE: Walt Tiger Lily 01-17-05 39
   RE: Walt amea_gari 01-20-05 41
   RE: Walt joannie 01-23-05 48
   RE: Walt trigirl 03-09-05 81
       RE: Walt J I M B O 03-09-05 83
           RE: Walt LookeeLoo 03-10-05 87
   RE: Walt trigirl 09-23-05 117
 Jin PhoenixMons 01-13-05 13
   RE: Jin lovetowatch 01-14-05 25
       RE: Jin amea_gari 01-14-05 28
   RE: Jin AugustGirl 02-24-05 68
   RE: Jin amea_gari 02-27-05 72
 Hurley PhoenixMons 01-13-05 14
   RE: Hurley joannie 01-15-05 31
       RE: Hurley amea_gari 01-16-05 33
   RE: Hurley J I M B O 01-20-05 42
       RE: Hurley amea_gari 01-20-05 46
   RE: Hurley brewerr 01-27-05 52
       RE: Hurley amea_gari 01-27-05 53
   RE: Hurley trigirl 03-09-05 82
       RE: Hurley J I M B O 03-09-05 85
   RE: Hurley DRONES 03-24-05 91
   RE: Hurley trigirl 06-01-05 115
       Reyes, not Hayes Rhyn 09-23-05 121
 Secondary characters PhoenixMons 01-13-05 15
   RE: Secondary characters joannie 01-14-05 26
       RE: Secondary characters Devious Weasel 01-18-05 40
   Jack's dad PhoenixMons 02-17-05 59
       RE: Jack's dad volsfan 02-17-05 61
           RE: Jack's dad AugustGirl 02-17-05 63
               RE: Jack's dad J I M B O 02-17-05 64
                   RE: Jack's dad volsfan 02-17-05 65
                   I agree PhoenixMons 02-17-05 66
                       RE: I agree J I M B O 02-17-05 67
                           RE: I agree DRONES 02-28-05 73
   RE: Secondary characters dabo 03-08-05 75
   RE: Secondary characters dabo 03-08-05 77
   RE: Secondary characters DRONES 04-07-05 102
   Edward Mars Lost 05-31-05 111
       RE: Edward Mars Stormy Valley 06-01-05 113
           RE: Edward Mars Lost 06-01-05 114
               RE: Edward Mars Stormy Valley 06-01-05 116
 Danielle dabo 03-08-05 76
 Aaron trigirl 05-27-05 106
 Desmond trigirl 09-23-05 119
   RE: Desmond mrc 09-23-05 120
 Kelvin mrc 10-06-05 122
   RE: Kelvin Elaine0 10-07-05 123
       RE: Kelvin mrc 10-07-05 124

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01-13-05, 01:11 PM (EST)
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1. "Locke"
John Locke
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17. "RE: Locke"
The most intriguing character on TV right now.


Handcrafted by Rolly - ain't it cool!!

Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-

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18. "What we know about Locke"
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-05 AT 03:15 PM (EST)

He was in Australia to go on an adventure/safari
He had some sort of accident that left him unable to walk (I believe this accident was 4 years ago)
He had a bunch of knives with him for his adventure
He was shown to have a job in which he worked in a cubicle
He knows how to play backgammon
He was the first (as far as we can tell) to 'see the island for what it was'
He is trying to get people on 'his side' for some reason
He thinks Sayid is a 'smart guy'
He has Boone, Charlie, and Walt on his 'side' (from what we can infer)
He (and Boone) are the only ones who know about the hatch
He does NOT know (or at least was not in the group of people who know) about Danielle and the transceiver/message
He seems to be similar to the philosopher John Locke in that he seems to believe in Tabula Rasa (letting go to start anew, perhaps, as a clean slate on the island)


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19. "RE: What we know about Locke"
He knows about Danielle (Sayid talked to him about "Danielle's map" last night) but he was not with the group that heard the transmission.

He is a somewhat capable hunter.

He had a romantic relationship with a "phone sex girl" that seems to be mostly only in his mind.

We do not know if he was ever married or ever had children.


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22. "RE: What we know about Locke"
didn't he also make a rather assumptive comment about the maps too, like he knew they weren't any good? might have something to do with the beach that started to erode in a hurry.
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43. "More about Locke"
He seems to be helping the others get passed their demons. Charlie and drugs, Boone and his attraction/dependence/whatever with Shannon, etc.


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44. "RE: What we know about Locke"
Locke seems to be creating a group of people that will follow and obey him (Charlie, Boone, Walk, Michael). Some type of tribe or gang or cult. Something like Jim Jones. So far all of his followers have been male. I wonder if he is doing this to challenge the doctor as leader of the survivors or create some type of civil war among the survivors
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45. "RE: What we know about Locke"
I used the word "cult" to DW to describe Locke's gang. Definitely weird.

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69. "RE: What we know about Locke"
On the episode "...In Translation," we learn that Locke's father is not "cool."
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70. "RE: What we know about Locke"
In Locke's eyes his father wasn't cool!
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74. "RE: What we know about Locke"
He likes it on the island, just like Walt.
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108. "RE: What we know about Locke"
I don't know if I'd say that Michael is a "follower". Seems to me he has never trusted Locke (with the exception of saving Walt from the polar bear) and in fact tried to keep Walt away from Locke as much as possible. Did I miss something?
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71. "RE: Locke"
I worked for a high tech company selling to the DoD (Department of Defense) and something struck me about Locke when he mentioned he worked for a "box company". A euphemism for one of the spy agencies--NSA or CIA, can't remember which, but I think it was NSA--was BOX COMPANY (as in, "working for the box company".)

With his skills and knowledge he just had to have been working in a black agency.

Anyone else with knowledge in this area?

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78. "RE: Box Company"
Or possibly the box company that Hurly owned before it burned down?
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79. "RE: Box Company"
It wasn't the box company that burned down, it was the Canadian sneaker factory.
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84. "RE: Box Company"

but wouldn't they have put the sneakers *into* boxes??

just sayin

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88. "RE: Box Company"
In last week's episode focusing on Hurley, there was a mention of some connection with Hurley and a box company (located in Tustin, CA if I heard right). But, my brain is mush and I can't remember. All I remember right now is that Mr. Reality and I looked at each other right after the utterance and I said, "Well, that blows the Locke/box company/NSA connection I had going on!"

I'm sure one of you will jog my memory. I still like my theory...at least in theory!

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92. "RE: Locke"
By far my favorite. IMDB list that his character is based on the English philosopher, not that IMDB hasn't made mistakes before.

His only friends before he left for Aus. were the ones he played Role playing games with. He also had an attachment to a phone sex operator named Helen, he used her more like a psychologist from the gist of the one conversation we heard, he passed her off at work as his girlfriend. Yes, he worked in a box company, his explanation in "Hearts and Minds", as a collections agent. I would guess it is the same box company Hurley now owns, I think I remember one of Locke's bosses saying something about new ownership.

He has an extensive knowledge on survival tactics bcuz he was going to Aus. for a "Walkabout", thus the name of the first Lockecenteric episode. He planned to live off the land for a few months like Crocodile Dundee, this would also explain all the different knives.

I believe before the Island he was socially inept, possibly married, then divorced or widowed, no kids, rough childhood, no military experience, coverts ops or otherwise. Since the island was his new start at life he wants to pass that opportunity on to others i.e. Charlie's heroin addiction, Boones problems with Shannon, Kate in general. I DO NOT THINK HE IS TRYING TO BUILD A FOLLOWING OR A CULT. He is just happy to feel needed and useful.

I will be adding more as his history becomes more detailed.

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And please, call me Funt

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96. "RE: Locke"
We learned a lot in Deus Ex Machina

* Locke's mother was in the same mental hospital as Hurley's numbers "friend" (Sorry, was his name Lenny?)

* Locke's real father manipulated Locke into donating a kidney to him. His father is quite wealthy.

* Locke's mother believed (?) he was adopted, but he actually was in several foster homes

* Locke was hit by a car, but not paralyzed

* Locke had hair ;)

* Locke worked at a toy store and Mousetrap was his favorite game

* Locke did not learn to hunt until he was an adult

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97. "Locke's Mother"
Emily Annabeth Locke

Info taken from photo of California DL :

-- DOB 10-15-40
-- license expiration date 3-20-94
-- Lived in Los Angeles at the time

Spent time in Santa Rosa Mental Health Institute. Admission date on the paperwork the investigator had was 10-5-92.

Has an Aunt named Bea Jones

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98. "Locke's Father"
Anthony Cooper

Wealthy

Taught Locke how to hunt

Needed kidney transplant

Got Locke's mother to help him con Locke out of a kidney

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2. "Jack"
Jack Sheppard
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23. "RE: Jack"
what can i say...other than i think he's 'tryin real hard to be a technoir'
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34. "RE: Jack"
Name Jack Shepard
  • father Christian Shephard, a drunk and a egotist
  • Jack cost his dad his job, spoke out on ethics (when pregnancy mentioned)
  • Argued to get his dad's body on plane (casket was empty).
  • Dad's image led him to water.
  • smothers and burys the marshal (when sawyer messes up)
  • dad might have died in an altercation with sawyer in bar in aust.
  • when locke helped him back up the clift, he was encouraged to "find what he was chasing"
  • was only in austrailia to find and retrieve his dad.
  • has the gun and amo, with key around his neck
  • searched all luggage for medicine
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    93. "RE: Jack"
    The Healer, every castaway group needs one.

    I don't think Jack's father was killed by Sawyer or anyone, I believe he drank himself to death.

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    100. "RE: Jack"
    Was married? Or was he? We never did see the end of that ceremony...
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    101. "RE: Jack"
    I seem to remember that Jack's mom said something about "Sarah". Anyone else remember that?
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    104. "RE: Jack"
    - got married to a woman who was formerly a patient

    - tells woman in bar before flying that he is no longer married

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    3. "Kate"
    Kate ? real name unknown?
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    21. "RE: Kate"
    Kate, ex CIA, military or law enforcement. see her use two guns one in either hand wounding her fellow bank robbers.. she's been trained.

    1. familure with the marshal that was bringing her in. he said maybe they'd believe her story.
    2. robbed a bank in new mexico, for the plane, had it on her in Austraila. why was she in Aust?
    3. was she biding her time with the farmer.. waiting for someone or something to happen
    4. her father was a ranger, she tracked in the woods in Washington state with him
    5. she and her mother stood on the beach sinking in.
    6. the man she loved, the man she killed? her father?
    7. is a gemeni (twin)
    8. got Sun to admit she spoke english.
    9. she's not annie or maggie
    10. lies about everything
    11. lifted the key out of the wallet very skillfully
    12. pretends she knows nothing of guns very skillfully
    13. is basicly good, saved the farmer from the fire, saved the bank manager from being killed, put the oxygen mask on the marshal.

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    54. "RE: Kate"
    on kate's mug shot, Harrison Valley Police (Harrison Valley Pennsylvania? pop 1,083) what was she wanted for in rural PA?
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    56. "RE: Kate"
    *killed someone
    *was married


    Handcrafted by RollDdice

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    94. "RE: Kate"
    LAST EDITED ON 03-24-05 AT 01:41 PM (EST)

    Kate Ryan AKA Annie and Maggie, Kate may not be her real name either.

    Is the middle of a love trinagle between Jack and Sawyer.

    I believe she may be a military brat, moved from place to place when she was younger, but spent a good amount of time in Washington state, where her father taught her how to track, possibly hunt and shot, although I would assume that would be with rifles.

    Gemini, the twin. Some spec she may have a twin somewhere, even going as far to connect her to Alias. That seems really far fetched.

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    105. "RE: Kate"
    - surnames used: Ryan, Austin, Dodds?

    - her mother is terrified of her

    - inadvertantly killed her first-love Tom


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    109. "RE: Kate"
    Also used the name Joan Hart when picking up her mail.
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    4. "Charlie"
    Charlie Pace
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    35. "RE: Charlie"
  • charlie Pace
  • played bass in band "driveshaft"
  • tape on fingers "late", "fate"
  • was addicted to drugs
  • kicked it with Locke's help to gain his guitar (hummmm he hasn't played it around the campfire since.)
  • brother is Liam, no longer a junkie, lives in Australia
  • from Manchester England
  • Catholic
  • wanted to help, be a friend to claire
  • was hung, dead, and revived for following Ethan
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    80. "RE: Charlie"
    Worked as a grfter to pay for his drugs.

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    86. "RE: Charlie"
    Lost the woman he loved, due to his addiction. I cant remember what his love interest said to him when he was standing at the door and she layed into him, but I remember it was quite a statement. Does anyone remember?

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    89. "RE: Charlie"
    I’m not sure of the exact words, but the gist of the conversation was that the girlfriend asked why he chose to take the job from her dad if he was just planning on stealing from her. Charlie said he wanted to be respectable and he wanted to be able to take care of her. She replied that he would never be able to take care of anyone…

    This of course provides a lot of the motivation for Charlie’s attitude/devotion to Claire. He is trying to prove that he is capable of caring for someone besides himself. Even to the point of killing Ethan for Claire.

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    90. "RE: Charlie"
    That was it! Thanks TenPin.

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    95. "RE: Charlie"
    You know, I am not sure what else could be shown about Charlie's past that could really enhance his character much. Maybe some stuff before he was in the confessional ready to quit driveshaft, but not much else, unless they want to start a new storyline. I think all of his character developement is going to be tied into Claire and her baby. They could do flashbacks to when he was kidnapped as well.

    Which leads me to another thought, how long will they use the flashbacks as a tool to create story line. Yes, there are some gaping holes in certain peoples stories, Kate is the first to come to mind, but now I am wandering.

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    5. "Sawyer"
    Leslie?
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    20. "RE: Sawyer"
    His father committed suicide.

    His family was the victim of a conman.

    He became a con-man, himself.


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    24. "RE: Sawyer"
    This guy is something else! Can endure a lot of pain for just a kiss. Has a phenomenally bad aditude. Seems like a bully/badass, and yet I don’t recall him trying to do a lot of harm (or get revenge) on anyone. All pointing toward a cracking of his hard shell IMO.
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    27. "RE: Sawyer"
    Frankly, I don't think this guy's bad at all. If I were stuck on the island with him, I wouldn't be making scornful faces at him like everyone else is, I would make friends. i don't think it'd be hard at all. I'd just be nice, and stop assuming he's a pig. The reason he's acting like a pig is because people approach him with the attitude that he IS one. Just like with the inhalers. If Boone had just gone to him, stated the problem, asked him nicely-- I doubt ANY of that would have happened.


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    57. "RE: Sawyer"
    *killed someone who he thought was the actual Sawyer, but ended up killing the wrong man because he was set-up.


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    60. "RE: Sawyer"
    Sawyer did that after meeting with Jack's father if I am not mistaken.

    Also, in Boone's epi we were shown Sawyer being arrested in the background and stating something to the effect "I just wanted to return the man's bottle".


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    58. "RE: Sawyer"
    His first name...I think they said it was James, but I could be mistaken. Does anyone remember?

    Initially he couldn't bring himself to kill the Sawyer set-up. Jack's father talked him into it at the bar.


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    62. "RE: Sawyer"
    His first name...I think they said it was James, but I could be mistaken. Does anyone remember?

    You are correct, Mons. He told Jack's dad his name was James. He did not reveal a last name though.


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    107. "RE: Sawyer"
    From the episode in which Sawyer is expelled from Australia, the police officer, reading from his file, says his name is "James Fall."

    Lis

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    110. "RE: Sawyer"
    ...or was it James Ford?
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    6. "Sayid"
    Sayid ?
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    36. "RE: Sayid"
  • member of Iraq Republican Guard
  • communications expert, and tinker-er
  • walked the paremeter of the island to map it
  • saw Daniele and came back to say "we are not alone"
  • tortured sawyer for Shannon's meds (didn't work)
  • was in love with Nadia and helped her escape
  • trying to figure out maps, compass doesn't find true north
  • was hit on head when trying to triangulate signals.
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    112. "RE: Sayid's passport"
    terrible photo

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    7. "Sun"
    Sun ?
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    16. "RE: Sun"
    I wondered last week how long it would be before her English-speaking was exposed.


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    Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-

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    50. "RE: Sun"
    She knows a lot about herbs, flowers, and plants.
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    55. "RE: Sun"
    Sun learned English so she could leave her husband Jin, where was she planning on living? she wouldn't need English if she was going to live in Korea. She was going to walk out of the airport in Austrailia, was she planning on living there?
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    49. "RE: Sun"
    Sun grew up in a wealthy family with a domineering father. Loved Jin enough to leave daddy's grasp, but to no avail. Wanted to leave Jin, but changed her mind at the last minute.
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    8. "Claire"
    Claire Littleton?
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    37. "RE: Claire"
  • 8 mo's pregnant by Thomas (not married)
  • psysic(Richard Malkn) said she must raise the baby he needs her goodness
  • abducted by Ethan
  • keeps a journal
  • is Australian
  • has daddy abadonment issues
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    9. "Boone"
    LAST EDITED ON 01-13-05 AT 01:46 PM (EST)

    Boone Carlisle

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    38. "RE: Boone"
  • or boone Carlyle
  • ran a wedding clothing business subsiderary of mother's (Sebrina Carlyle)
  • assumed responsibility for shannon his stepsister
  • lifted the bun and amo clip form sleeping sawyer & sayid
  • mother married shannons father when he was 10
  • was in love with his stepsister Shannnon.
  • was RELIEVED with his "vision" of shannon's death
  • appears content to "follow" locke
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    99. "RE: Boone's eyes"
    His ice blue eyes look very much like Locke's. Also like Locke's mother. Father-son, perhaps? We have not heard much if anything about Boone' s dad.
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    103. "RE: Boone"
    Is Dead.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

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    10. "Shannon"
    LAST EDITED ON 01-13-05 AT 01:46 PM (EST)

    Shannon Rutheford

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    29. "RE: Shannon"
    According to Boone, she was married once, but isn't anymore.
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    51. "RE: Shannon"
    She has asthma and

    speaks/understands a little french

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    118. "RE: Shannon"
    Perhaps daughter of "Mr. Rutherford" that was killed in a car accident caused by Jack's wife Sarah.
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    11. "Michael"
    Michael ?
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    32. "RE: Michael"
    Worked in construction for awhile. Also an artist.
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    47. "RE: Michael"
    We now know his last name is Dawson.

    He was never married to Susan, Walt's mother.

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    12. "Walt"
    Walt ?
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    30. "RE: Walt"
    His "other" dad was named Brian. His mom got really sick and died. He's "moved around a lot." He has a dog named Vincent.
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    39. "RE: Walt"
    He is also extremely lucky, as we found out when he played backgammon with Hurley.
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    41. "RE: Walt"
    Weird things happen around Walt. His stepfather was 'afraid' of him, and didn't want him. He's a pretty strong-willed kid.

    My interpretation is that what Walt pictures is what happens. When he was demanding his parents' attention and they were preoccupied, a bird crashed into the window and died. It was evidently the same bird that he had been looking at in his textbook moments before. Then there's the polar bear appearing, twice. the 'odd' thing is that the polar bear Walt conjured up (if indeed he did so) chased HIM down, rather than going after the object of his ire (at that time his father). That's kind of a relief, in a way. It would seem a bit too obvious if Walt conjured up monsters that went after whoever he was currently mad at. And it would present Walt as one of those crazy-scary horror movie brats with malevolent power they can't control-- and that's just been done to death.

    I can't believe I'm the first to post this. Was there a blackout or something?


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    48. "RE: Walt"
    Walt Lloyd (Susan's last name)
    or
    Walt Porter (Bryan's last name)
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    81. "RE: Walt"
    Burned the raft his father was building because he does not want to leave the island. Did he make it burn or physically set it on fire?

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    83. "RE: Walt"
    i'm guessing he just thot it. he seems to be a good kid, and i don't think he'd walk up and set it aflame...but he didn't seem too remorseful when confronted by locke. maybe he's starting to realize he has 'powers' and can use them.
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    87. "RE: Walt"
    Agree. Not sure really if he did this on purpose. If I suddenly thought that I was "affecting" things around me, but didn't know how to control it, I'd be scared.

    LookeeLoo

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    117. "RE: Walt"
    Kidnapped by the Others.

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    Jin ?
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    25. "RE: Jin"
    Does he also speak english? He sure seemed to react to what Hurley was trying to tell him in the fishing fiasco and during the pee on my foot incident
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    28. "RE: Jin"
    I really don't think he does speak English.
    I really liked Jin in this last episode; the interaction between him and Hurley was beyond comic relief, it was great exposition. He's, imo, showing himself to be more of the man that gave Sun a flower and was willing to do anything to make her happy. It makes him a bit more tragic as well, though. After all, this guy became a hitman so he could make a life for himself and Sun.


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    68. "RE: Jin"
    Not an assassin.

    Lied about his father's death because he was ashamed of father being a fisherman.


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    72. "RE: Jin"
    He's a compassionate man, risked his own life to save the factory inspectors(?)
    Dreamed of opening a restaurant and owning a hotel.
    Gave up his relatively simple dreams so he could marry Sun.
    Was going to flee Sun's father, with Sun, in America.
    Was raised by a -charming-, earthy, simple, and wise father.


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    14. "Hurley"
    Hugo Reyes
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    31. "RE: Hurley"
    One of Hurley's friends served in the Persian Gulf War. Used to go fishing with his dad off the Santa Monica pier. Was known as a "warrior" back home.
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    33. "RE: Hurley"
    "Was known as a warrior"
    Anyone else think he played a warrior elf in tabletop D&D?


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    42. "RE: Hurley"
    i admit i haven't seen every minute of every episode, but i don't recall there being any flashbacks on hurley. is that right? if so, isn't he the ONLY main character without them? could be coming soon (as walt/michael just had their fill), but why would they save his background for so long?
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    46. "RE: Hurley"
    "why would they save his background for so long?"

    Well, someone has to go last? :} Actually, I am hoping it's because his flashbacks will reveal something important. Maybe, maybe not. I'm actually looking forward to him though!


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    52. "RE: Hurley"
    won the lottery
    was rich (can pay the 20,000 he owes Walt for bacgammon)
    lived with his mom
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    53. "RE: Hurley"
    That's what is called a spoiler. That episode hasn't aired yet. Please don't post spoilers without warning. It kinda ruins things for some people.
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    82. "RE: Hurley"
    Won the lottery and bad things began happening to everyone around him, yet the money continues to grow.

    Owns a box company - same company that Locke works for?

    Has found an ally in Danielle Rousseau.


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    85. "RE: Hurley"
    'ally' eh?

    it did strike me that they seemed to get along much better than her and sayid...but i hadn't pondered the thot that maybe that interaction (positive as it seemed to be) could come back somehow in the future. good choice of description.


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    91. "RE: Hurley"
    Thinks the numbers that won him the lottery are cursed.

    -Got the #'s from a fellow patient while he was in a psych hospital. The patient got the #'s from a radio transmission that he heard at a listening station while in the South Pacific with another person(can't remember why they were at the listening station). The #'s were repeated over and over. The #'s weren't supposed to used according to the patient and said they would bring bad luck. The patient is still in the psych hospital.

    -Hurley went to find the other man who was station at the listening station. That man(can't remember name) lived in Australia with his wife. That man committed suicide when "bad things" began to happen after he won an impossible guessing game using the #'s.

    -Danielle is the first person to believe those #'s are cursed, like Hurley. Danielle seems to like Hurley. She gave him the battery they needed.

    -Those #'s appear on the mysterious hatch.

    After watching Hurley's ep., I'm starting to believe that Hurley has a very important part to this story.

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    115. "RE: Hurley"
    Hugo Hayes

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    121. "Reyes, not Hayes"
    Hugo Hayes

    It's tiny, but the screen does say 'Reyes.'

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    15. "Secondary characters"
    LAST EDITED ON 01-14-05 AT 05:56 PM (EST)

    Rose

    Ethan

    Jack's dad

    The pilot

    The Marshall

    The fortune teller

    Vincent (the dog)

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    26. "RE: Secondary characters"
    Don't forget Vincent (the dog).
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    40. "RE: Secondary characters"
    I can't hear the name Vincent without thinking of the Don McLean song of the same name about Vincent Van Gogh. Probably no connection, but you never know.


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    59. "Jack's dad"
    Christian Sheppard

    * alcoholic
    * operated on someone while drunk and the person died
    * was angry with Jack for ratting him out
    * fled to Australia
    * wanted to apologize to his family but said he couldn't bring himself to do it because he was "weak"
    * urged Sawyer to do what he had to do in order ease his mind...said something to the effect of "unless you want to turn out like me", which sent Sawyer off to kill the "fake Sawyer"


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    61. "RE: Jack's dad"
    I wonder how Sawyer can use the meeting with Jack's dad as leverage down the road. You know there will be more to it than Sawyer realizing he met Jack's dad!
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    63. "RE: Jack's dad"
    I thought the same thing last night, Doc. You just know Sawyer will use the meeting with Jack's dad to his advantage, probably to hurt Jack at an opportune time.
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    64. "RE: Jack's dad"
    I had a strange thought when it happened.

    (Should note that if you haven't read the spoiler threads, you shouldn't read further.)
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    Yesterday I was catching up on all the spoilers regarding the major cast member to be killed later and how 'moving' it will be. Then I watched the show and saw the look in Sawyer's eye at the end. They want us to think he'll use it against Jack, but maybe Sawyer's last breath is spent reconciling a family when his whole life was spent destroying them.

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    65. "RE: Jack's dad"
    Great thoughts JIMBO! I hope you are wrong because I really like the multi-dimensional character that Sawyer is and the fact that he is so good looking!
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    66. "I agree"
    I don't think he will use it against Jack at all. Sawyer is not a bad guy, IMO, he's just had to endure a whole lot of stuff and he's built up this tough exterior as a defense mechanism.

    I don't know about the last breath thing since I don't think Sawyer is the one to kick the bucket, but it would certainly make sense and tie things up (except for the Kate-Sawyer-Jack love triangle). It would also work the other way around...in that he reveals this info to Jack just before Jack dies.


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    67. "RE: I agree"
    yes, sawyer definitely provides more in-camp drama than jack...so for the sake of storylines i agree that jack could go over sawyer. don't know if they'd want to eliminate the doc though...however, i used to think the same thing about "outback" john locke.
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    73. "RE: I agree"
    If these characters died it would diminish the show:
    Jack: camp dr. and de-facto leader
    Kate: The only real strong female presence on the show
    Locke: man of mystery and knowledge
    Sawyer: resident "bad boy" gives the best antogonist to Jack
    Walt: only kid(that we know of). seems to have some special abilities

    If anybody other than those was killed, died or whatever it wouldn't negatively affect the show. I know there are a number of Charlie fans out there but he does not hold the importance that those above do. The list could be subject to change with twists.

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    75. "RE: Secondary characters"
    Joanna (drowned)

    Scott (killed by Ethan)

    Steve

    Larry (mentioned in diary)

    unnamed diary writer (female)

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    77. "RE: Secondary characters"

    Background cast (not all extras in this photo, some are stand-ins).
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    102. "RE: Secondary characters"
    What has happened to Rose?

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    111. "Edward Mars"
    LAST EDITED ON 05-31-05 AT 08:16 PM (EST)

    Who is Edward Mars? His name appears on the seating chart (27G). The credits say that the Marshal is played by Fredric Lehne as Fredric Lane. Kate's seat is 27H. I'm confused. Anyone have thoughts on this?

    Just found the Marshal's id. Looks like the signature is Edward Mars. So what's with the credits on IMDB?

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    113. "RE: Edward Mars"
    >Who is Edward Mars? His
    >name appears on the seating
    >chart (27G). The credits
    >say that the Marshal is
    >played by Fredric Lehne as
    >Fredric Lane. Kate's seat
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    >Looks like the signature is
    >Edward Mars. So what's
    >with the credits on IMDB?

    If you read the summaries, he is never called by name. Only "the marshal."


    The Marshal reacts with an elbow to her face and Kate goes down. The Marshal looks to a stunned security officer who never even had time to get out of his chair. "That," the Marshal says, "is why I need five guns."

    As seen HERE.

    Fredric Lehne played the Marshal in six episodes. So it appears he was referred to as self. Not necessarily that he was playing himself.


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    114. "RE: Edward Mars"
    Still confusing. There's no clear connection between Edward Mars played by Fredric Lehne.
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    116. "RE: Edward Mars"
    >Still confusing. There's no clear
    >connection between Edward Mars played
    >by Fredric Lehne.


    Tv tome is also reporting Fredric Lehne as the Marshal. The connection is there, he was listed in the credits. Here is a link for you.


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    76. "Danielle"
    LAST EDITED ON 03-08-05 AT 12:54 PM (EST)

    Lives alone on island.

    Shipwrecked 16 years before plane crashed.

    Last survivor of her group.

    Mapped island.

    Changed message looping at radio tower above Black Rock.

    Seems to have a large stockpile of goodies somewhere. (Hasn't run out of cartridges, explosives, etc. in 16 years.)

    Alex is her child. (Who or what Alex is we don't know.)


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    106. "Aaron "
    Turniphead. Claire's baby.
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    119. "Desmond"
    - Lives in the hatch.
    - Jack first met him while doing a 'Tour de Stade'
    - Apparently a man of faith, talks to Jack about miracles -Sarah
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    120. "RE: Desmond"
    A man of faith--good point!

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    122. "Kelvin"
    --Took Desmond to the hatch.
    --Died.
    --Named for the scientist?

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    123. "RE: Kelvin"
    Wouldn't Kelvin have had a partner before Desmond? That was never mentioned, right? The film said there would be two people and you should switch so you'd always be fresh to enter the numbers.

    I know there was some speculation that Sam, the dead guy in Austraila that Hurley tried to visit or Lenny, Hurley's friend in the mental hospital could have been one of the button pushers.

    It's probably nothing, but remembering to enter those numbers every 108 minutes and worrying about what would happen if you forgot could make you crazy.

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    124. "RE: Kelvin"
    Yep, he would have had a partner. If one of the two connected to Hurley were that partner, one has to wonder how and why they were able to leave the project.

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