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"Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAST UPDATE***"
"Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAST UPDATE..."
Blatantaly Stolen From Ayak

OK, because people on the East Coast (and Midwest too) will have access to significant spoiler information hours before people on the West Coast will, we're going to adopt a format similar to the one we use for Survivor and The Amazing Race for this episode.

If anyone wants to post UPDATES about the events (such as the names of the two people who get booted within the first 20 minutes, or the method of their booting, or the details about how Omarosa and Troy return) -- PLEASE POST THEM IN THIS THREAD ONLY!!!

We will enforce a ban on SPOILER INFORMATION on this board until midnight EDT. In other words, do NOT start a new thread to discuss tonight's events until AFTER MIDNIGHT ... or you may see it deleted.

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If this wasn't clear enough, here's another try at an explanation, borrowed from the Survivor board:


RealityTVWorld.com provides this thread as a service to two groups:
1) People who want to post and read about the episode as it is being telecast across the various time zones. If you can't wait for the show to appear in your time zone, read the 'East Coast Update Thread' for an on-the-fly commentary.

2) Those people who want to access other posts but do not want to see spoilers before the show is telecast in their timezone.

Please do not post any commentary about the episode as it is telecast in threads other than this one. Thanks.

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 Thanks AyaK 04-15-04 1
   RE: Thanks flower 04-15-04 2
   RE: Thanks CantStandToLook 04-15-04 3
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... Loree 04-15-04 4
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 5
   RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... flower 04-15-04 8
       RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 13
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... Loree 04-15-04 6
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 7
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 9
   RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... Loree 04-15-04 10
       RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... Loree 04-15-04 11
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 12
   RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... SouperStar 04-15-04 14
       RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... Loree 04-15-04 15
   RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... TheWanderer 04-15-04 17
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... SurvivorBlows 04-15-04 16
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 18
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 19
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 20
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 21
   RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... TheWanderer 04-15-04 22
       RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... Loree 04-15-04 23
   RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... djandy 04-15-04 25
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 24
 Poor Casting! Spidey 04-15-04 26
   RE: Poor Casting! Loree 04-15-04 28
   The Donald anotherkim 04-16-04 29
 RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... CantStandToLook 04-15-04 27
   RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAS... Bosco 04-16-04 30

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got my coors light chilling, waiting for the big night!!
wow the top three shows on television, all on the same night tonight! apprentice,survivor,american idol!!

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Anything I can do to help you guys out. We really do appreciate everything you blue peeps do.


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I see this is 2 hours because they are still showing recaps.
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And we're off.....

First ten minutes all recap...brak brak brak...The Donald talking about how the show works. He talked about all the firings and reasons why and more brak brak brak.

lol.."Tammy drove her team nuts...and Omarosa lost it completely" quotes from The Don.

dam...would they start the show already..more brak brak brak..landru would be proud...The Donald is trying to bore us to death.

Once again they show Kwame making the worst decision ever "I'm gonna take Omarosa"

Only one will be asked to stay and become the president of one of my companies....only one will be given the job of a lifetime...only one will be The Apprentice.


OK can I get the last ten minutes of my life back please.

Edited cause I was so bored that I mispelt sh*t.

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thank you...even if you couldn't spell sh*t right!! lol...it's quiet around here! I think everybody is glued to the tv!!
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At least DT is wearing a cap and covering up his hair at the golf course.
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Server ate my last update so abridged version.

Jessica made her own arrangements....wasn't lost. Nick is there too. Omarosa is delusional...said Jessica was the biggest rock star in the world (or something of that nature)

Bill teams threw away one of the sponsors signs only to find it in the trash just in the nick of time.

Now the rest........
Troy and Kwame have a meeting with the people from Operation Smile. Showing pictures of the kids they're doing this for.
Breakfast with Mark Brown and Jessica and Nick. Troy took over the breakfast but at 10am , no breakfast had been served yet.
It was originally Omarosa's responsibilty but Troy took it over. Omarosa says Troy dropped the ball.

Omarosa thinks Kwame is being too laid back. She thinks he's need to be more expressive. The Restaurant manager said that he
had no contact with Troy. Mark is lecturing Kwame about how things are supposed to work and they're not working right.

Kwame says there's not much he could have done...(not looking good for Kwame)

Back to the Golf Course.
Only wrinkle seems to be the weather so far. Bill is being told to be ready for the Don's arrival.
Looks like they're definitely setting up a Bill win here.

Trumps making jokes about firing Bill if he screws this up. Trump says they can start no later than 10:30 (as if Bill can control
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Cut to Atlantic City

says the meet and greet was her responsibility and Kwame asked Troy to help and she's just a lil pissed about it.
She feels like if something happens bad..it will all be on her. Kwame says is something bad happens, it's all on ME!

Kwames telling them that he's delegating authority because he can't be everywhere at the same time.

Back to the Golf Course....

Bill says he thrives under the pressure...he likes to operate at a fast pace. He told Leslie he will have the office back in it
original condition when they leave. He's barking orders to Katrina and Amy.

They dont think it looks good for the tournament director to be running around with his head chopped off. Amy and Katrina
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It is funny watching Bill run in and out and in and out. He is so nervous and can't stand still. He makes everyone around him nervous.

Heidi is complaining that Kwame doesn't trust her. Then when he tells her she can be in charge she says she doesn't know how to do it. LOL!

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Where was Nick during Bill's competition? We saw Bill and we saw Amy and Katrina. But I forgot Nick was even there until the end of the comp. Was he hiding somewhere?
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Atlantic City....
Heidi thinks Kwame should have given her more to do. She's more competent than Troy.
Meet and Greet isnt' going well at all...information was commicated to Troy but never made it to the VIP Guests.

George thinks that Kwame is handling the task very well given the complexity of everything.
Kwame makes his chicken little speech....funny seeing as that's what BIll is doing.

Heidi was in charge of the meet and greet but it seems that Troy is really in charge. Mark isnt' happy about the way Troy
is speaking to the employees.

Omarosa is taking Jessica to the meet and greet...Troy and Heidi are operating the Meet and Greet. Things seems to be going
well.

Kwame says my leadership style requires competent people.


Back to the Golf Club....

Trump says "Ok let's go play golf."
Once the tournament got underway...Bill felt a lot better. Feels like the weight is somewhat off his back.

Overall Carolyn thinks Bill did a great job...there were hiccups but that's par for the course.

The course is a $30 million dollar course. Amy..."you got about 100 good looking men out there in their golf uniforms,
it's hard to beat."

Bill is going around and meeting and greeting some of the players.

Bill was pleased with his performance and thinks everything was fairly flawless. The Donald congratulated him on doing
a good job. Nick thinks Bill is the man for the job.

Donald is on his way to the Taj Mahal now to see how Kwame is doing with Jessica Simpson.


Back to Atlantic City....
Kwame is going to meet the Donald on the helipad. Grand entrance shot of the Helicopter..yada yada yada.
Kwame is briefing Donald on how things are going so far and where they are in the game plan for the concert.

The meet and greet seems to be going well...Jessica is getting a lil edgy cause six oclock is coming up. She needs to eat and
get her hair done. The Donald wants to meet Jessica in the meet and greet but she's ready to go..she's hungry.

I think Omarosa just took Jessica out of the meet and greet. Yeah she did. Donald Trump walks in and there's no Jessica
Simpson and no Omarosa. Kwame tells the Donald that Jessica isn't gonna be returning cause she needs to get ready and get to stage.
I dont know what Kwame was waiting on but the Donald told him a couple times "come on Kwame...let's go...time is money"
They're really making it look like Kwame isn't doing so well....is this classic Mark Burnett misdirection...I dont know.

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Omarosa couldn't $krew over Kwame if she was trying.

No wonder she was fired 4 times.
So far.

It's just a game.

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I would have loved to see Omarosa on Bill's team. Kwame is so calm and Omarosa doesn't get to him that much. But Bill is nervous to begin with. He would have flipped out at her. Oh that would have been fun to watch...
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Although I'm an impatient West Coaster reading the boards... when it gets this close to the end, sometimes MB likes to make things more obvious; in this case showing true leadership qualities. Baes on what happened last week and what I can glean from the boards, I wouldn't be surprised if DT askes Kwame "If Omarosa was doing such a poor job, why didn't you fire her?" If Kwame answers that he doesn'tt know, or didn't think of it, or didn't know that he could, he's a goner.
Regardless, based upon what appears to be happening,I think Bill takes it.
That makes me happy
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Three general comments:

A) Kinda sad Jessica's big concert footage is of a cover...

B) The most I see all the people who this show interacted with and where it filmed, the more I'm amazed that there weren't more spoilers. I bet Mark burnett is too.

C) That Burnett... subtle with the "Kawme... calm... Bill... run ragged..." stuff, isn't he?

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And we're back to Atlantic City....

The Donald asks "So where the hell are they" cut to Omarosa in Nick and Jessica's room goofing around.
"Come on let's go man..." the Don to Kwame because they were waiting for Jessica backstage and she was still in
her room.

Kwame was not too pleased to see Omarosa in the room. "She's a space-cadet" Kwame about Omarosa. This was the very first
time that I thougnt I could be fired- Kwame (about everything that's going on)

Jessica says her advice to Kwame is to not let'em see you sweat...act as if everything is gonna be ok..there will always
be flaws but it will work out.

The Donald is making a $25,000 contribution to Operation Smile.

The Concert is going well...Kwame is pleased...thinks everything is working out. He believes he did a good job though there
were areas where he could have done better. One of his objectives in coming on this journey was to learn from the Donald on
how to handle the tough issues and how a successful person does business.

Cut to the Country Club...
All done....I crossed the finish line and that's half the battle - Bill.
Amy says there's not that many people she would work that hard for especially when not being paid. It's a love fest in here.

Back to Atlantic City...
Kwame is thanking his team for working hard especially when they didn't have to. " Donald Trump is an icon..when people said he
couldn't do it, he always got it done and hopefully being around him and working for him, some of that will rub off on me."

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Cue Survivor style music....is tribal council coming up or what...lol

The final boardroom is kinda surreal and I haven't fully digested it yet...I didn't sleep a wink..I was tossing and turning
I didn't know what to expect...- BIll

This could be a whole new chapter in my life - Kwame

I could have an opportunity that could change my kid's kid's life - BIll

I'm going to try to respectfully take Bill down..that's all I can do - Kwame

Gonna go mano a mano..brak brak brak...- BIll

Cue more Survivor style music...I swear I see Jiffy Pop standing outside the boardroom..lol

Surprise Surprise...

The other teammates are there too. Donald's asking Omarosa a bunch of weird questions about how beautiful he thinks Jessica
Simpson is.

Did they think Kwame was good or great....Heidi thinks he relied on Troy too much. Why...there's a tight bond there...
Don to Troy...I dont care about you..cause you've been fired...what about Kwame...lol

What about BIll...They all think he did a good job. Carolyn thinks Bill did an exceptional job.

George and Carolyn are getting a litte catty here...lol...George thinks Kwames job was harder than the Golf tournament. Carolyn
whole heartedly disagrees. George says he's been involved in Celebrity Golf Tournaments before and they just about run themselves,but with concerts and celebrities , the celebrity can change the game from instant to instant depending on what they feel like doing at that time.

Amy thinks Bill was a little too frenzied...(what's she trying to do here)..she doesn't think he was as calm, cool and
collected as he coulda been. Nick agrees...if you delegate something you need to trust your people. Nick thinks if he were
the Donald, he would hire him. Nick brought up the lost poster issue. Katrina thinks Bill needs to show more confidence.


Omarosa says it was complete the opposite with Kwame...he was too laid back..never showed stress. Heidi would have liked to
have been micro-managed just a little more. Troy thinks he has the formula to success.

Donald is asking all of them if they've thought about the long term. Everyone is staying true to their teams and saying
their team leader would be the one they would choose. Donald says...ok...everyone out.


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The Donald....

This is a tough decision folks...a tough decision....Robin..send em back in.

Only one of you is gonna run one of my companies. Bill what do you think is the easier job..the Golf Tourney
or COncert...he thinks the Concert..same question to Kwame...opposite answer.

The Donald...tell me about your employees...
Donald was surprised that he picked Omarosa and that he picked her that early. Carolyn also thinks that it was a risky choice.
George is concerned about his leadership style. Sometimes if the employees dont see that you're stepping it up, they may not step
it up.(Kwame)

Carolyn about BIll..the team thought you were pretty frazzled even though the tournament was a success.

Bill is saying that he didn't get flustered...he's a perfectionist...there were a lot of things that didn't go exactly as planned
but not many. He thinks he's better than Kwame when pushed on the question by the Donald.

Bill thinks he's has a leg up on Kwame because of his entreprenuerial skill. Kwame says I gave up a lot to be here. It scares the
Donald how much Kwame gave up to be on this show.

This is gonna be a very very hard choice....get the hell outta here. (he's mulling it over now)

Kwame and Bill talk it over in the lobby.....no hard feelings about anything said in the boardroom.

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Who do you think George...I would go with Kwame..I think he handled himself really well under pressure. I can see him as a better fit in the
Trump organization in the long run.

Carolyn thinks Kwame is textbook but think Bill is the better fit. She thinks that Kwame is too relaxed.

Robin let em come in.

The Donald gives them the you're both great speech.
Kwame...this bothers me...Omarosa lied to you twice...why didn't you fire her. Kwame...I didn't know that I had that option,
and I only had three people to run the organization and I needed the other people. It doesn't seem that you took a tough enough stand.
I dont like moving them over, I like Firing them and you should have Fired Her.

Bill...you did a really good job at the Golf Tournament. Kwame..I have no doubt that you're gonna be a big succes..but for right now

BIll ..YOU'RE HIRED!!!!!


Kinda lame speech at the end there...looks like Omarosa was part of Kwame's undoing after all.

Bill gets to choose between two jobs...A new tower in Chicago...90 story Trump International Towers. $700 million dollar project...
condos and luxury hotels. Will be finished in 2007 and should have a value of 1.2 Billion dollars.

OR

An eqaully incredible Golf Course on the edge of the ocean in LA. 300 acre resort? He bought it a year ago after the 18th hole slid into the ocean
350 works and 300 trucks and 300 someodd million dollars to haul in replacement sand. The property will open in August, it will be even superior to Pebble Beach.

In the world of business, decisions have to be made quickly...Bill has only a few minutes to decide..

when we come back we'll talk to all the fired contestants and find out what's up with them.

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Ya-a-a-a-a-ay!
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I wanted to see Donald tell Omarosa to get off his stage. I am so sick of her.
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Bill chose the Chicago project because that's where he lives.

Sam offered to pay Trump $250,000 if he would hire him for 1 year.

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24. "RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAST UPDATE***"

Ok BIll...
You've seen the two job choice...Golf Course or great Chicago Hotel and Residential Towers....you've had three minutes.

Bill chooses Chicago.

Donald says you're gonna have plenty of supervision...trust me..dont care what your title is and I'm gonna be the one doing the supervisin.
What the hell are you doing sitting on that side of the table...I fired all of those people...get over on this side of the table.
It wasn't an easy decision..cause that man over there (Kwame) was a fierce competitor and a good man.

Omarosa ...the Donald is calling you out on your lies...you've been caught on tape. Heidi..what do you think? I think me and Omarosa
should go out for a 2 hour lunch and discussed it. Erika...I think you suffered a lot and I hope everything works out for you..
Omarosa...same but you have to work out the lying.

NIck and Amy...who broke up with who...Amy says I think we were just mean to be very close friends. The Donald says I've had some
really close friens..., they've cost me a lot of money...lol.

Troy...you really could come back.

The Donald also gives shout outs to Carolyn and George...

Bill...here's something to make you feel a little bit better. A brand new Chrysler Crossfire...woohoo (yeah right)
The Donald is giving his shout outs to George Stienbrenner and Chrysler for being there from the beginning when they didn't know
the show would be a huge hit.

COming up...sneak previews for the next season of The Apprentice.

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04-15-04, 10:54 PM (EST)
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26. "Poor Casting!"
There is no way DT should be hosting his own post-game show. OMH is he awful or what?


Wasn't Jiffy available? It's his off-season, you know.

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28. "RE: Poor Casting!"
He definitely shouldn't be doing it live. Real confused and mixed up feeling. Tammy wanted to talk about her baby and he just shut her up and moved on. LOL!

I wonder if the fact that DT had a job opening in Chicago was one of the reasons he picked Bill?

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29. "The Donald"

sucked so incredibly bad that it was just painful to watch. Who on EARTH let him rehearse his speeches to Bill while reading them straight from the teleprompter? Who told him this was a good idea? Who wrote the crappy script? Someone needs to be fired....instantly.

Miscellaneous Ramblings
--felt MB's hand all over that finale except where it should have been...picking a decent host.

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27. "RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAST UPDATE***"
Sam says he'll pay $250,000 to work for the Donald. The DOnald said he will definitely consider it. He says Sam isn't crazy
he has some crazy ideas but he's not crazy and he'll really consider it.

Now he's talking to some of the earlier losers...that weren't as memorable as Sam.

BIll congratulations again...here are the keys...go down to the street and drive for about 15 minutes and then get over to
Trump Tower to start work.

Here's the first ever look at what's ahead when an all new apprentice returns to NBC in the fall.

This go around I've raised the stakes even hire...gonna be more demanding...tougher tasks with tighter deadlines.
This time they'll work with Fortune 500 companies and maybe I'll even bring back some familiar faces. (they show Omarwhora of course)


lol...BIll said unbelievable about a Chrysler Crossfire...now if it were a Mercedes or BMW 7-series...ok..but for god sakes man...It's a Chrysler...pulllleeeezeee



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30. "RE: Apprentice FINALE *** EAST COAST UPDATE***"
As for bringing back familiar faces, they also showed Sam and Troy. Maybe that 250K isn't a waste after all, hehehe

DT is an awful host. And worse thing is he didn't let Kwame speak even one bid

He picked Bill to dupe us as there are many rumors that Kwame would win. heheh, kidding

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