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frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 09-25-04, 07:19 AM (EST) "Handicapping the Apprentice" I'm splitting the people in Apprentice into risk brackets. "High Risk" means that this person could be fired next show. "Moderate Risk means they probably won't make it all the way through" "Low Risk" means that they have a good chance of winning the show. Within each bracket I've ordered from the most likely to the least likely. Right now, Kelly is winning, followed by Kevin, who improvised a great backup plan when Andy's idea failed. Fired ----- Rob Bradford Stacie J High Risk --------- Ivana Maria Andy Elizabeth Moderate Risk ------------- Pamela John Wes Stacy R Chris Jennifer C Low Risk -------- Raj Sandy Jennifer M Kevin Kelly   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Handicapping the Apprentice frodo2 09-25-04 1    RE: Handicapping the Apprentice Pepito 09-25-04 2        RE: Handicapping the Apprentice LBIslander 09-27-04 3  RE: Handicapping the Apprentice TeamJoisey 09-27-04 4  RE: Handicapping the Apprentice xserver 09-29-04 5  RE: Handicapping the Apprentice subman 09-29-04 6  RE: Handicapping the Apprentice jackandjill 09-29-04 7  RE: Handicapping the Apprentice djandy 09-29-04 8  9/30/2004 Update frodo2 09-30-04 9  10/30/04 Update frodo2 10-12-04 10    RE: 10/30/04 Update oncebitten 10-12-04 11    RE: 10/30/04 Update Oscirus 10-14-04 12  RE: Handicapping the Apprentice frodo2 11-24-04 13

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frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 09-25-04, 07:21 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Handicapping the Apprentice" Interesting to note that even though Jennifer C hasn't had a serious business mistake, she's too immeshed in politics at this point, and it probably result in her being a Katrina.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Pepito 587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 09-25-04, 09:16 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Handicapping the Apprentice" Well done, Frodo. The only point of disagreement is that I would flip Pamela and Andy. Andy is a contributor -- sure, wild ideas, but it was the seed that got his team rolling on a decent idea that was good enough to allow P&G to justify giving them a win when Apex screwed up. The final test will be when he is actually a PM. If his team wins, he may actually become low risk. I think Pamela is on Donald's "To Be Fired" List. I don't think that Carolyn will ever get past the Dumb & Dumber incident with her, and another mistake will break the camel's back. Also, she separates herself and shows off in front of her team (ice cream factory incident, dining out incidences...), so when Mosaic loses, she will very likely be in the boardroom fighting to stay alive. I do agree with your comment about Jenn C. She's trouble, her team just doesn't seem to have recognized it yet.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

LBIslander 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-27-04, 03:03 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Handicapping the Apprentice" I pretty much agree, except, again, with Andy. I'd keep him in moderate for awhile. I think the guys might lose this one, only because Carolyn was much softer in the boardroom previews where she is saying that (someone) failed. She's so scathingly disgusted when she talks to the women, and her look on the preview is much different. So in that case, if the men lose.. I'll guess Chris or john could be at risk.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

TeamJoisey 3556 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 09-27-04, 11:53 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Handicapping the Apprentice" I wouldn't classify Andy as high risk, either. He's been creative in his thinking, and hasn't made any serious errors. But of all men, he is probably most at-risk. I say this because he has gotten a lot of face time, and the midseason boots usually get a lot of face time at thtis point. You could say the same of Raj, I suppose, but he's been prominent because he's the class clown. These reality show contestants need a reality check!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

xserver 115 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-29-04, 00:47 AM (EST) 5. "RE: Handicapping the Apprentice" Yeah, this list looks good, but Andy seems low risk to me. He has ideas even though they don't always work out. I think the boardroom skills may help him prevail, much like Kwame did last season. I might put Wes in the high risk category, but I don't have a real strong feeling about that.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 09-29-04, 10:37 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Handicapping the Apprentice" Kevin? Why is in this country that we constantly reward people for supposedly coming to the rescue of one bad idea with another bad idea? If the team had just listened to me in the first place and my idea for the tooth people, the team's victory would have been assured from the start. When I'm not in charge there is complete chaos within the ranks. I'm surrounded by idiots.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

jackandjill 204 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 09-29-04, 01:25 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Handicapping the Apprentice" I think Raj should be on the high or moderate list only because I don't think Donald Trump wants someone who wears a bow tie, carries a cane, and wears red pants as a PM of a major project that bears Trumps name. Donald says repeatedly that image is everything - Raj does not have the image that Donald is looking for.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

djandy 1711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 09-29-04, 02:34 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Handicapping the Apprentice" Other than switching Wes to High Risk and Andy to Moderate Risk, I agree with your list. I have the same top 3, but my order would show Jen M. to be the winner, with Kelly 2nd, and Kevin 3rd. djandy S8 ABC Red Ink Champ, S7 ABPABC Red Ink Champ, CMY FOMO Red Ink Champ   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 09-30-04, 11:52 AM (EST) 9. "9/30/2004 Update" LAST EDITED ON 09-30-04 AT 11:53 AM (EST) Jen C. was fired this week, so I'm updating the roster. If you read my earlier comment, you'll note that I said she'd get too emeshed in politics. It happened more quickly than I suspected, but it did happen. here's my new list: Fired ----- Rob Bradford Stacie J Jennifer C High Risk --------- Ivana Maria Andy Elizabeth Moderate Risk ------------- Stacy R Pamela Sandy Chris John Wes Low Risk -------- Jennifer M Raj Kevin Kelly Raj, Jen M, Kevin, and Kelly remain in the Low risk bracket. I give extra respect to Kevin for calling the women on their bullsh!t. It won't help him when teams remix, but he wasn't alone in saying this, and the women were more concerned with turning on Elizabeth than getting mad at a guy who disagreed with him. Another thing that's interesting is that this group tends to hold grudges past tasks. That's totally destroying the women. Stacy R goes higher on the moderate risk list for her tendency to gossip, but she still doesn't go to high risk because despite her annoyingness, she hasn't caused the group to fail. Sandy drops out of the low risk bracket because Trump and Carolyn asked for her by name.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-12-04, 10:32 AM (EST) 10. "10/30/04 Update" Based on the firing of Pamela, I have a new ranking. here's my new list: Fired ----- Rob Bradford Stacie J Jennifer C Pamela High Risk --------- Ivana Maria Sandy Andy Elizabeth Moderate Risk ------------- Stacy R John Wes Chris Low Risk -------- Jennifer M Raj Kevin Kelly My changes are minor this time. I moved Chris to a position above Wes because he was a succesful Project Manager. However, I'm not moving him to the low risk bracket because he still hasn't shown much. I debated flipping Ivana and Maria around, but I think they'll probably get fired around the same time. Rumors have indicated that Ivana makes it into the top 8, but I'd like to have that verified first. Trump has asked for Ivana by name twice, so she's in the dog house as far as I know. Sandy is at a higher level of risk now because last week, Trump asked for her in the boardroom and this week, he thought she should have been there as well. One difficulty in handicapping the apprentice so far is that the men are much stronger as a group than first season. It's harder to differentiate between individual weaknesses.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

oncebitten 145 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-12-04, 11:31 AM (EST) 11. "RE: 10/30/04 Update" LAST EDITED ON 10-12-04 AT 11:35 AM (EST) I believe that Sandy will be one of the next fired. There were 2 tasks in a row: The restaurant and QVC where DT asked why Sandy wasn't there. Carolyn called her out saying that she didn't really do anything (can't remember the exact words). Her days are numbered.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Oscirus 1596 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 10-14-04, 02:02 PM (EST) 12. "RE: 10/30/04 Update" Id put ivan and elizabeth in moderate risk, Stacy in high risk, Andy and raj in Moderate risk (I think Donald is still fuming over Raj's cane).   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-24-04, 08:29 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Handicapping the Apprentice" It's time for this month's update. This will probably be the last one I do for this season, since the show is almost over. Based on the firings of the last month, I have a new ranking. here's my new list: Fired ----- Rob Bradford Stacie J Jennifer C Pamela John Elizabeth Stacy R Raj Chris Maria Wes Remaining Candidates (in order of expected firing) ----- Sandy Ivana Andy Kevin Jennifer M Kelly Note that I've removed the Moderate, High, and Low risk pools. I did that early on to group the candidates so that I could think about them more easily. There are few enough left now that I can make a general prediction I think I've been pretty much spot on except that Andy and Ivana were able to reverse the course from their beginning experiences. Andy showed that he's an excellent leader and can handle control freaks like Maria, a feat that Wes was incapable of. Ivana hasn't gotten much better, but she has wily survival skills that have kept her in the game even if she's not a good businesswoman. There will be another double-firing during the interview episode, so the results of it are hard to predict, but I presume that Andy will go down then due to his age, and Kevin, because he shows stress physically, which the executives won't like. Trying to outguess the apprentice has been something of a great game. I only wish the season would have gone better with more qualified women and better firings from Trump.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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