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"Trading Spouses - 22 November"
I can't believe it! Ten minutes in and nobody has started a thread yet! Am I watching all alone? From the looks of it, that might be for the best, because so far I would cross the street to avoid all these people.

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 RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 1
   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-22-04 2
       RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 3
           RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-22-04 4
               RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 5
                   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-22-04 6
                       RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 7
                           RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-22-04 8
                               RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 9
                                   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-22-04 10
                                       RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 11
                                           RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-22-04 12
                                               RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 13
                                                   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-22-04 14
                                                       RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 15
                                                           RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-22-04 16
                                                               RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 17
                                                           RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November DCRealityWatcher 11-22-04 18
                                                               RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-22-04 19
 well! cqvenus 11-22-04 20
   RE: well! PagongRatEater 11-23-04 24
       RE: well! realitychick 11-23-04 29
 RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November Lisapooh 11-22-04 21
   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November RangeRover 11-22-04 22
 RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November MrsStrollin 11-23-04 23
   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November Royslilsis 11-23-04 30
 RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November celinedion1 11-23-04 25
 RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November MrsStrollin 11-23-04 26
 RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November tvhead 11-23-04 27
   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-23-04 28
 RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November yourstruly 11-23-04 31
   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November volsfan 11-23-04 37
       RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November yourstruly 11-23-04 38
 RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November Loree 11-23-04 32
   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November realitychick 11-23-04 33
       RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November RangeRover 11-23-04 34
           RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November zulu227 11-23-04 35
           RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November zulu227 11-23-04 36
               RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November ongelis 11-24-04 39
                   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November trudy 11-24-04 40
                       RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November RangeRover 11-24-04 41
                           RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November jeld01 11-26-04 42
                               RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November jeld01 11-26-04 43
                                   RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November HistoryDetective 11-29-04 44

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1. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
LAST EDITED ON 11-22-04 AT 08:10 PM (EST)

I can't understand that one woman! What is up with the blond and the Mr T starter set? WTF? I can't understand him either!

ETA: The Louisiana family is out there!

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2. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
What's wrong with you! His wife says that he is the best man in all of Cajun country!

When they showed him from the rear, I thought it was a woman...

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3. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
I guess! I can't understand the Louisiana family at all...I am having to read everything they say!

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4. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Are we sure that their Devil Child isn't just speaking in tongues?!

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5. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
He sounds like the dad to me...but you may be right! Where does the other family live?
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6. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
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I don't know. I was in such shock about all the reptiles and amphibians at the first house that I couldn't focus too much on the vegan house. If I arrived an saw a snake that large in the yard, I would have told the producers "You keep the $50K. I'm getting the hell out of here."

Edited to add - Somewhere in California...

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7. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Yeah me too! I.HATE.SNAKES!

What did you think of the swamp tour?

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8. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Not my idea of a fun tourist attraction. Big Daddy T didn't sound like the sharpest crayon in the box.

I can't believe that Vegan Woman just told Big Daddy T that he can't have more soda! And now she is forcing them to eat at the salad bar!

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9. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
And she told baby Z that he would die at the age of 40!

I don't like parents that use fear with their children! URGH!

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10. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
But it's a lot more fun to use fear with somebody else's children!

I can understand that both of these families have their own diets that they prefer and that they are excited to share with the others, but both mothers seem really pushy in trying to force the other family to eat her way - and putting down ther usual eating habits.

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11. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Now, I like using fear with my nephews!

The thing that bothers me about these peeps is that they are always pushy towards their ways of life! There is no way this one lady going to bayou country and changing the cajin lifestyle! No need to be pushy! This lady is whacked to think she can change them!

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12. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
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No doubt!

I am so excited to see the VEGAN POTLUCK!

Hmmm, looks like a lot of Stepford Wives.

- edited to add:

No, she did not just pull those alligator heads out of the bag to pass out at the potluck! Sigh.

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13. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
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The Vegan potluck is a riot! They don't harm animals...they catch and release them!

Man, the cajun woman looks really older than the others!

The fly noise is cracking me up!

ETA: Oh yes she did drag out the gator heads! TOO FUNNY

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14. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
I do have to give the Cajun woman credit for saying that she respects their decisions/culture but she felt that she was also entitled to share her way of life. She also educated them that the gator population is overcrowded and needs to be thinned, that her family doesn't hunt purely for sport.

Still, she might have thought it through a little more and stopped with the T-shirts and voodoo dolls, especially considering the reception that the gator heads got from the children.

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15. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
I agree with you on the Cajun mom! This Vegan mom is being WAY WAY to controlling! This cajun dad is really biting his tongue. Tell me the Vegan mom didn't just tell baby Z that she would wash his mouth out with soap!

Bourbon Street and the River Walk...AAAAAHHHHHHHH! I lvoe that place!

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16. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Yes, she did! Now I know why I like Wife Swap better. They are more strict with the "rules" so you know hwo is "supposed" to be in charge of the parenting decisions at any given moment.

Yes, Vegan Mom is way too controlling, but that Devil Child could use some discipline too...

Cr@p! I just realized this program always takes two episodes. Now I'm committed to watching how it ends next week...

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17. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
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Yeah, I think you are right on the stricter rules! I wish Wife Swap was that way!

Will the Vegan family HAVE to eat the jumbalia (sp?) if she puts red meat in it?

Baby Z is smarter than he seems! He apoligized so it would bide him some more time!

ETA: But he needs more structure in his life and rules need to be enforced!

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18. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
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Joining in . . .

Barbara is so arrogant! No respect for these people or their culture. I just finished a vegan dinner (I eat veg at home, though I'm not vegan in general), but I'd be open to trying out their life. Not to mention if I was at a big Bayou party I'd be dancing my ##### off! God I love to dance to Cajun and Zydeco music.

I like that the Cajun woman -- rats, forgot her name - brought the gator heads and voodoo dolls with her. It's a big part of her culture, and she shared it as a way of saying "this is who I am." Didn't anyone ever tell those Cali women that you say "thank you" and be polite when you get a gift, even one you don't like?

I'm in DC, and used to live in NYC (my favorite place), but this show is reminding me why people in much of the country (I'm from Ohio) resent the know it alls on the Coasts. I love my vegan friends in NYC, but they can be just as obnoxious as Barbara, not acknowleding that they know nothing about life in a place like Cajun country.

I like ZZ. "You're fired!" He's great at expressing himself. Smart cookie. And Diego is a real trooper.

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19. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
I agree with you on the culture aspect! The Cajun people have rich traditions and they respect them at all costs! The Vegan woman went in blazin trying to change them rather than try to understand where they are coming from!

New Orleans is my favorite city in the country and the city is known for it's food! The vegan lady will not even consider trying any of these things.

I would go into a show like this with an open mind and use it as a learning experience!

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20. "well!"

i would've been here earlier, but i seemed to be having board issues.

anyway, this ep was hilarious, and the conclusion is so going to rock. let the tears fall!

i'll laugh my flippin arse off if the vegan mom spent money on getting the gator family a nutritionist to show them how to eat healthy and without killing animals!

i'll also laugh forever if the cajun mom allotted money for the mom to get a new fur coat. LOL!

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24. "RE: well!"
The Cajun mom's manners are far too good to do that, but Barb....I think she would do JUST that. Or perhaps spend the money to release the gators back into their natural habitat.

I'll tell you what she WON'T do - she won't reinvest it in their business, which I'm sure is what they wanted the cash for.



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29. "RE: well!"
OMG, I can see her giving the check to "Greenpeace" to save the whales.
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21. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
SO are any of y'all singing Allman Brothers' songs after seeingDiego or is that just me?

This show makes me feel much better about myself. Thanks Fox!

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22. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Well I don't know what to make of this so far..

Cajun Mom. Well meaning but Demi Moore has less of an age gap between her and Ashton. But I am not sure Diego is any more intelligent. I suspect when mom said "I went to the next generation" she meant that literally as Diego seems to be his own cousin. There are clearly some chromosomes missing.

As for her son. Well he has the brains Daddy seems missing. Smart little bugger and pain in the a@@. Loved when he was showing Vegan mom around and told her "bet you've never stayed anywhere this nice where you haven't paid!" I thought perhaps Donald Trump had been consulted for decorating advice.

Vegan mom of course is Californian. And right away assumes that everyone in the red states needs blue state advice on how to live and eat. Clearly Wolfgang Puck needs to explain to her what is Californian cusine.. its not "green juice".

Once again respect is always the watch word here and one mom is usually short on it. Thanks Vegan mom your rudeness is duly noted.

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23. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Hi i've been been reading these boards for a few years and i've finally have to comment. I live not too many miles from the "Cajun Family" and know many people like them. Not all cajuns speak with such a heavy accent. I too was born and raised in south LA, about sixty miles south of New Orleans. My grand parents and father spoke french. That's what her husband was speaking in the swamp tour boat. He probably spoke french before english. I also have alligators that come in my yard from the bayou across the street. You are not allowed to kill them without permits and licenses. Only so many alligator tags are given out annually. I've counted 15 along the bayou on the way home one day this summer. The way they eat is the way almost everyone here eats. South Louisiana is a whole different world, and yes I make a mean gumbo. lol
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30. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
I also live in South Louisiana about 24 miles south of Thibodaux. We often see alligators sunning themselves on the banks of our bayous. We did have a Bayou Black swamp tour guide called Alligator Annie, but she passed away a few years ago. Though I never watched an episode of Trading Spouses before, I was interested in how our portrayal of Louisiana life would be shown. We don't all have a flat accent such as the couple on the show, however we do all speak in such a different way that most people can tell where we live. My husband works in Port Fourchon and has picked up that accent. I was a little worried that the rest of the world that already thinks that we all live in shacks along the swamps would get rewarded with the evidence that their thinking was right. I myself live on about 10 acres of land that I share with the rest of my family. I was a little taken back with all the food at the Cajun party, we don't all eat that unhealthy all the time. We are known to pass a good time often, but it's not an everyday thing. We often take visitors to places like the resturant they went eat at because we do like to showcase our different types of food. People from all over the world come to New Orleans for our food, yet shown as they did, we look like we eat like that all day. I hope that after eating the version of gumbo that Diana made for the California family (with soy chicken and soy sausage as mentioned in our local newspaper) they will at least enjoy our culture when they come for Mardi Gras (also mentioned in our newspaper.) I am waiting for the conclusion to see the finished product. (As a side note, I don't know how many people read the article, but Diane has a bacholors degree in criminal justice and political science. The family also has worked with many a tv show, commerical and in movies with their alligators and snakes.)
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Hi everyone! i just got done watching the show and i couldnt believe the louisianna family. The father although hes very nice seems to be very weak. He also seems to be helpless. The father also seems to not be the brightest bulb in the box. The father should be able to discipline his son instead of letting his son do whatever he wants. Also the father seems to have the mentality of someone much younger than him. Maybe he has a problem and if thats the case than im truely sorry and no disrespect whatsoever. I couldn't beleive at how bad their son behaved. That kid was probably the rudest that i've seen on this show yet. He has no manners and he has total disrespect for everyone. i hope that his parents start to discapline him soon before its too late. Also when they were showing the previews for this show last week they showed the animal rights mom telling the kid to apologize to the tree for running into it and hurting it. What's up with that vegan woman being so controlling, telling the luisianna dad that he cant have soda? He needs to get a back bone and not be allowed to be bossed around by some stranger. I hope that they show this in part two of this episode. Also I have a wuick question, Why is this episode in 2 parts but last weeks episode was only an hour long?

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26. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
If anybody's interested the web site to Zam's Swamp tour is www.zamsswamptours.com.
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27. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
before i read any else's thread i want to go on record:
i love the cajun family ;that zz is a pisser !
what a bright boy he is.
you can see the love they have for one another
and they are true blue cajun.
as an animal rights person myself, the california woman has no
knowledge of the ways of the bayou or that there'd be alligators
eating everyone's pets if it weren't for diego.
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28. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
ZZ may be clever, but he's still an obnoxious little brat who doesn't seem to have any regard for anybody but himself. Vegan Mom may have been a b!tch on wheels, but she had the right of it during the whole bumping into a stranger on the street incident.

And as much as I think that children should be allowed to express themselves, any kid who says to an adult that he just met "This is probably the nicest place you have ever stayed without paying" does deserve to have his mouth washed out with soap.

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31. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
This episode was great. First of all, I am mostly vegan, but that Cal mom is ridiculous and presumptous. While the Louisiana couple are a little backward, they gained my respect.

You do not force your views on others. When will people understand this. For petes sake, it is wrong. At least the Cajun family is tolerant. I cannot believe the Cal dad is not willing to try some of Cajun food. It is not going to kill them. It is actually yummy. You can be firm on your beliefs and be willing to accept others differences. Live a little people.

I would be furious if I was the Cajun mom and saw how the Cal mom was treating her son. She has no right to threaten him. Did I hear it right? Did next weeks previews say she spanked him? As far as running into the stranger, you bet I would have my child apologize, but it is not her child. I would be resentful of some crazy woman (in his world she is mighty strange) telling me what to do.

Personally I adore this child. The brains on the little character. From the interviews the Cajun mom knows just how much of a spitfire he is. From the way he is patiently taking the Cal womans long talks and ultimately following her commands he is no stranger to punishment. What little boy is not going to be distracted when sitting through a long talk about what he is doing wrong? Especially if it is a dead fish. Ohh La La. Every boys dream. Personally I am impressed with his response. Yeah he wants to punch her lights out, but so do I. And he is not saying that to her face. So far she has been derogatory to his culture, made him eat totally different than usual, taken away his soft drinks, made him stop rolling down a hill, yelled at him, threatened him with early death and soap in the mouth, and basically told him that everything he does is wrong. And all he has done is snuck some soft drinks and used some back talk.

Now I agree his eating habits are atrocious, but that is not my child. She is not his mom. She holds herself to a much lower standard than she does the children in her vicinity. I hate that. One of my biggest pet peeves, and unfortunetly one I see all the time.

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37. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
She spanks their dog!

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38. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Thanks! I had already deleted it from the DVR. I hit the button right when it said that. I was really hoping I heard wrong.
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32. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Very interesting ep. They really do find complete opposites for this show. Both sides need to give a little and learn from the other.

I was curious if the California women have a fit if they step on an ant when they are outdoors. They catch and release bugs?

And I can't stand snakes and would not be staying in a home with snakes.

Cajun hubby did seem a little slow. I wasn't too sure what the reason was. But the son made up for it. The Cajun mom said that her son would be a handful for the new mom. And she wasn't kidding.

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33. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
No, we don't catch and release bugs. At least I don't. One swat with my alligator skin pumps or a whack of my alligator purse or belt takes care of west coastal bugs.

They seem to take the extreme Tofu, salad, peace love and whatever people from here for that show. Take them, move them somewhere outta here!

Now where did my alligator eyeglass case go...

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34. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
While I found the little SwampBaby hillarious... he is a bit of a "handful" for even parents with full on IQ, which SwampDaddy is surely missing.

Neither the Vegan woman nor swampbaby were exactly respectful of each other from the get go. Vegan mom was arrogant to a fault and seemingly ignorant of an American culture rich in both history and tradition. To be that oblivious to your own people and country is frankly inexecusable. And we worry about Xenophobia... lord we are totally unaware of how people live in our own country.

But Swampbaby needs to show some manners. While he made good TV imagine living with that kid. Some discipline wouldn't hurt, however that is not Vegan moms job in 5 days. She was way out of line with her whole "california" approach. Talk about generalizing an entire state.

Of course one go around with him someone would end up as either gator dinner or I would be wearing that kid's mullet hair as a hat!

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35. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
So editing could have made her worse, but Vegan Witch was awful from the beginning - at the airport, Diego asked "did you have a good flight". She made comments like "what is that accent (as
in WEIRD), and why do you wear so much jewelry (as in EEWWW, WEIRD). In New Orleans, instead of showing an interest in that
wonderful city, she just wanted to rag on ZZ. The magical music, the architecture, history, culture -- apparently nothing.
Demands for respect -- you command respect by giving it, for one
thing. She could have asked ZZ and Dad to talk about their history and culture... and LISTENED. She could have eaten red beans and rice, a staple down there. Cajun dancers are limber and entrancing to watch, but she ignored them to lecture them. Cajun Mom may have made a few missteps, but she's gracious and kind, totally unlike CaliTwit.
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36. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Vegan witch was awful from the beginning. At the airport, Diego
asked 'did you have a good flight'. She said 'what is that accent' (as in, WEIRD), and ' why do you wear so much jewelry (as in, EEWWW, WEIRD). In New Orleans, that wonderful, enchanting city, she seemed oblivious to all its charms and only wanted to rag on ZZ. You command respect by giving it .. she could have asked Dad and ZZ about their culture and history .. and LISTENED. Cajun music is infectious, and their dancers are
incredibly limber and graceful to watch .. but she totally ignored that to lecture them. She could have eaten red beans and rice, a staple down there. Cajun Mom may have made a few missteps, but she appears to be gracious and kind, totally
unlike CaliTwit.
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39. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
I agree zulu227 ... I'll take gracious and kind anytime. I'm vegan because that's what works for me. I never try to push (or force, as in Barb's case) my beliefs on to others. Had I been in the same situation as Barb, I would have found something to eat that was acceptable to me, and then enjoyed everything else that the opportunity presented. If anyone questioned why I was only eating the salad bar or the rice and beans, I would have explained why, possibly encouraged a dialogue about it, and then let it go. I think they should at least try everything that goes along with the experience, but diet is different. Strict vegans who would start loading in the meats, rich sauces, fatty foods etc. would be very uncomfortable (bordering on downright sick), and meat eaters can't just switch to a raw/natural diet over night ... killer on the digestive track. A change in diet is something to be eased in to, not done overnight.

Granted, I would have been thoroughly grossed out if I had seen all the gator heads everywhere. I know that had I been presented with a head as a gift, it would have taken everything that I had to reach out and accept it ... but I would have, so as not to offend the giver. After all, it's the thought that counts, not the actual gift.

Wasn't it explained fairly early on, that was how they made their money, over-population, certain hunting season for gators, that they recycled what was already dead, etc.? I'm not at all for cruelty to animals, but if it has to be done out of need (as opposed to sport), if it is done humanely and the animal remains are used and not wasted ... I think Barb made the statement that everyone there could easily forego eating meat, but if they did, the gator population would soon be out of control and they would be feasting on the people. Or as with the deer population where I live, there would be so many that there wouldn't be enough food for them and they would starve to death (that's cruel). Do I like hunting? Not at all, but I understand the need for it.

These people signed up and agreed to have strangers in their homes. I would think that they would try to provide them with the most basic of kindnesses, if nothing else. Yes, I'm sure it goes horribly against their grain, but I'm also sure that they are aware that the whole world is not going to accept, understand and live by the vegan family's own personal beliefs. It seems that the gator family is far more accomodating to Barb (at least so far), no matter what she does or says. I'm wondering if what some are taking as lack of brain cells or culture, is just their way of making the best of the situation and trying not to offend Barb, or make her any more uncomfotrtable than she already is.

Sidenote ... that little ZZ is a cutie but he seems to be acting out. I think it's just due to the change in environment ... what kid doesn't get a little wild and hyper when they think they can get away with it. Compared to some of the children (even the older ones) who have been intentionally rude and viscious, he's not that bad. Who knows, he might be looked upon as being the most well behaved kid there is when Mom and Dad are both there, in their normal day to day lives.

But ... if everyone acted like we think that they should, that would make for boring TV. Sigh =)

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40. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
I actually think that Diego is SMART enough to keep his mouth shut. I'm sure with a whirlwind and worldclass whiner like Barb that must take infinite patience but he's managing it. Probably what makes him a good fisherman.

The Z's seem to be way better at handling their 15 minutes of fame with some grace, even when under attack from all directions. Do they do anything at all right in their esteemed guests opinion? She complains about their diet, behavior, lifestyle, pets........is any facet of their existence safe from criticism?

Not much has been said of the California family but I think their attitude towards Diane has been condescending at times and critical the rest of the time. The father is totally controlling and adverse to experiencing anything new and he's not even real polite about expressing that.

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41. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
I have to agree with regards to Vegan dad. He is a nasty piece of work. Notice he always uses "WE" in conjunction with every sentance. I think he so bossed and controlled by the beyatch of a wife that he is asserting his version of control on SwampMama. He seems keen on embarassing her or at least degrading her as his wife is on the other members of her family.

And while ZZ needs discipline. I think he is more media savvy than most kids, actually playing to the camera. "You're Fired" should be the first note... but his mama admits he is a "handful"

But we all agree that showing respect for the 5 days.. YES 5 days you are in someone else's home seems to be essential. And yet seemingly impossible for some of these people. I do notice that the ones with the most problem are the arrogant ones. And arrogance usually implies ignorance - aka Vegan mom.

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42. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
OH MY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sincerely hope the "Vegan" lady from California reads this message: YOU ARE SUCH A BIT%H!!! I hope you see this episode and read these chatboards because you need a dose of reality. You are a fu*king rude skank.

I was yelling at the TV when you said ZZ could lose a little weight. C*nt, look at your FAT A*S!!!!!!! You are about a vegan sandwich away from 250 lbs.

To vigously and rudely push your ideals and lifestyle on these people is disgusting. You want them to switch to try your lifestyle but you were unwilling to try theirs. Why did you not try some crawfish and alligator if you were so willing to cram your warped beliefs on them?

You know I think it's obviously clear YOU need a little or BIG piece of RED MEAT so you are not such a SL*T!

F YOU!

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43. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Ok, ok, I'm a little calm now. I was writing fast and had a few words misspelled. (Insert deep breath)

I think the episode is typical of......I can't do it.

YOU CALIFORNIA, VEGAN, SALAD EATING, CURLY HAIRED, SUN DRESS WEARING, JACKED UP FEET, RUDE, SKANKY, FAT, OBESE, CLOSE MINDED, NO MEAT EATING, ABUSIVE, CONTROLLING, GREEN JUICE DRINKING, SLUT. YOU NEED TO FALL OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

Please be advised, your kids will be so happy when they leave home and get away from you.

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44. "RE: Trading Spouses - 22 November"
Welcome to the forums, jeld01. If you'd like to join us over in Off Topic, I'll have a big glass of Kool-Aid waiting for you!



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