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"Outraged Iowan"
iowabornnraised 3 desperate attention whore postings
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02-20-07, 07:06 AM (EST)
 
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"Outraged Iowan" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-07 AT 07:13 AM (EST)Please don't judge Iowa farmers due to the outrageous show last night. I have never seen anything like them, and was appalled when I watched last nights episode. I was raised on a farm in Iowa, and NEVER was fed raw meat. We were sent to school, had chored to do and also lived off our own livestalk(we sent them to butcher though), along with growing our own vegitables. But we also shopped in town, cleaned our house, and drank lots of water. Last nights episode made me sick to even think that people could live that way. Very, Very twisted people. Those poor kids' mind are soooo warped. She said they learn all they need to know and how could school help them???? Oh my goodness, those kids are going to have not one knowledge of how to live when they get on their own. What kind of job would they be able to get. What kind of nutritionist would tell you to live off raw meat anyhow. As far as i'm concerned, they are not even farmers, they may live on a farm, they may have farm animals, but they are not true to the heart farmers. Isn't eating raw meat a form of canablism??? UGGGGGGGG
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AshLanie 895 desperate attention whore postings
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02-20-07, 07:39 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Outraged Iowan" |
Cannablism is the eating of human flesh.....and when the farm Mom said they were ready for any type of diaster and had enough for a year i wondered what they would do after a year...resort to cannalblism?
I did not grow up on a farm but the area I grew up in had a program where when one turned twelve one could work on a farm. Trucks would pick you up in the morning and drop you off, with others, on a farm.
I loved it! Money was darn good and the folks were even nicer.
I remmebr back in 67 when one farmer found out some of us were saving to attend a national Drum Corp competition....he made sure we worked for him most of the summer (He paid a little better than some of the others) and even fed us lunch (and wow lunch on a farm is like a Sunday dinner for me) twice a week to boot. (Farmers didn't need to supply food for us, we were to bring our own lunches and snacks).
It was a dairy farm and he even took the time to show us how things are done. The place was clean, food cooked, and the people normal.
Farmers are a lost breed, they contribute to society and these people last night (imho) are not farmers but off the wall fanatical wanna be *survivalists*.
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mistyrose52 795 desperate attention whore postings
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02-20-07, 10:43 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Outraged Iowan" |
I missed last night's episode, too, due to an illness. But, WOW! Sounds like it was quite the controversy!Actually, I haven't seen ONE post in favor of the crazy farmers. I grew up with parents who lived on farms, and my dad was one of the most amazing gardeners ever!! Talk about veggies-now THAT was raw food! I could pick a turnip, carrot, squash, whatever out of his garden and chow it down any day of the week. But when it came to meat-it was COOKED! Even the farmers of the depression era KNEW that you had to cook meat or you'd die! I am totally surprised, in this age where we are recalling meat, poultry and even peanut butter, that anyone would consider eating anything that hasn't been cooked or passed by the FDA. Do they have a death wish, or are they just happy to be ignorant? You know, some people are! They love the attention it gets them, and obviously, these people are getting a lot of it. I hope the $50K they get goes back into a fund that makes them clean up their home, pay for a supervisor to be on the grounds watching them at all times to make sure those kids are being schooled, eating and drinking nutritiously, and being kept out of danger!!! We can only hope and pray that their being exposed like this will help society help them!
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iowabornnraised 3 desperate attention whore postings
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02-20-07, 04:05 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Outraged Iowan" |
Thank you, I agree totally that those kids are well-behaved hard workers. I think they are very sheltered though, needing interaction with kids their own age. I couldn't imagine putting my kids through that kind of life.
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iowabornnraised 3 desperate attention whore postings
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02-20-07, 04:08 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Outraged Iowan" |
Thats right, I do remember that is canabalism. Either way, it's just wrong. I agree witht he survivalists thing, but, if something is going to happen, it's going to happen, people need to live life to the fullest and enjoy life, which I dont think they truely are happy people since all they do is worry about catastrophies happening.
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Lazyike67 1 desperate attention whore postings
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08-18-07, 07:57 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Outraged Iowan" |
>Do people who pride themselves on
>knowing how to survive if
>and should they be put
>into a "survival" situation live
>it every day like this
>family does? I'm just
>curious because I'm wondering if
>this family could perfect how
>to make a fire with
>sticks so that the "raw"
>meat diet wouldn't be so
>necessary?
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>Or they could stock up on
>water-proof matches and wood instead.
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>;) I guess I could be considered a survivalist... however
compared to some a poorer example. However to answer your question The answer is _NO!_. Most survivalists tend to come from a military or law
enforcement background. So for most survivalists they
have a supply of food like Military surplus MRE's or
foods found at one's local camping store. All prefer a
nice well cooked meal. In short a survivalist has the tools, skills, & equipment
to handlle REAL life things like an earthquake, or Weather disaster like Hurricane Katrina. Ike
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Jadens Mommy 333 desperate attention whore postings
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02-21-07, 03:12 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Outraged Iowan" |
To those from Iowa: Please don't worry about what we think about Iowans. I'm sure we all do not think that just because a family from Iowa lives like this, that all Iowans live like that. I'm sure we all recognize that that is an extreme family and that is why they were chosen for the show.
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sarita8 12 desperate attention whore postings
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02-21-07, 09:34 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Outraged Iowan" |
I agree with Jadens Mommy. Neither Iowans nor Iowan farmers need worry. Nobody out there is thinking that this whacko, filthy, uneducated, bacteria-licking family is representative of Iowan farmers. One of my friends was raised in Iowa on a farm and few people are more elegant, well-educated, and squeaky clean than she. Let's just face it, this whacko family could've settled down in any state. Iowa just got "lucky." Ewwww. My condolences to Iowa!
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mistyrose52 795 desperate attention whore postings
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09-18-07, 02:11 AM (EST)
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12. "Replayed last night" |
Saw it for the first time. As a long-time RN, I truly believe that these kids, as well as the father, was suffering from near-brain damage. Did you notice the emotional break-downs they had when they had the slightest conflict to deal with? I know it was probably social, too, as they are never around anyone to know how to deal with people. But I also believe they are missing valuable nutrients that are feeding their brains. OR they could easily have some horrid worm(s) in their system that is eating them into oblivion!!Seriously, I fear for this family. I wish this doctor would have been able to do more-take more tests, x-rays, etc, to really prove if they were indeed, healthy. Not just taking their word for it. But you can only lead a horse to water, no pun intended. The biggest thing that I hate about these 'swap'' shows is what it does, even for a short time, to the children. Thank God that the other man absolutely refused to have his children watch a chicken be slautered in front of his city-dwelling children! How traumatic that could have been for them!! We all know it's part of life, but to have that forced on you, is barbarian. Those people are just who they are, but I do feel for them. And I agree with the lady who stayed with them-they are just inches away from the health department checking up on them. Being filthy is not against the law, but if either of those children end up in the ER with e-coli, lysteri, or any other life-threatening disease because of their stupidity, I'm sure child protection WILL get involved after TWO airings of this unbelievable show!
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eire_heart74 1231 desperate attention whore postings
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09-18-07, 07:53 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Outraged Iowan" |
WHile I respect the farmer's wife for wanting to introduce cleaner living through less chemicals her house just looked like a flippin' pig stye. I'm sorry but I wouldn't of eaten a thing in that house. Just cutting up that raw meat without washing their hands first??? Staph infection anyone? The father's mental breakdown...did anyone else catch where he was having it? In a bathroom with piles of junk piled in a tub and a toilet that was BLACK inside of it! Disgusting. You can clean your house using natural products like baking soda and vinegar and not have it look like that. And Junior's flip outs anytime she dared disagree with him, honey in the real world, you just can't walk out of the room and eat an egg. I also thought the farmer's wife demand that the husband get rid of all his clothes was out of line. He's a stylist. That's how he makes his living for his family. You're gone in a week, he has to go back to his old life when this is over. So yeah those clothes are needed for his career. They never really showed anymore about that so I'm guessing that didn't happen and was just for a tv moment. Notice the farmer's wife ate all the cooked food. Was she simply being a good sport, following the rules??? Or did she really think "well this won't do me in but I'm going to ##### about it on my little segments. I thought that was kind of odd. If she felt so strongly about her diet, couldn't she just been eating salad all week?
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Colonel Zoidberg 3645 desperate attention whore postings
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09-19-07, 09:02 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Outraged Iowan" |
Under normal circumstances, I look at a family pre-swap and say, "Both these families are insane." I went into this show having a lot of pre-conceived notions, especially about the Haigwoods, but after watching the show, I was surprised.I was surprised at how I didn't come out of it thinking the Haigwoods were complete morons. Sure, they have their share of problems (they need to get out more, they need to expose their kids to schooling, and they definitely need to get the son into some counseling since he seems to have some anger issues) but as far as the raw diet is concerned, I'd say the Haigwoods actually come off as winners in regard to that. Not to say I agree with the raw diet, at least as far as meat and dairy are concerned. But I do agree that, if one is going to disprove the raw diet, there needs to be research involved. The Hess-Webbs could have at least done some research, since I know they had internet at both houses. Even the little that I know about it from reading it on Wikipedia makes me come off as more educated than even that dietician at the clinic. So yes, the Haigwoods are mental and need to get out more, and yes, the statement that water dehydrates the body is insane (it's water, for Pete's sake - by definition, it hydrates,) but at least they were nice about it. The Hess-Webbs came off as stubborn, closed-minded jerks, especially Kim. It's great that they learned a thing or two from each other. But the amount that they learned is negligible compared to how far both families still have to go. 
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