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"Soulmates Twist"
For it or against it?
Does it wreck the integrity of the game by forcing alliances?
Or
Does it strengthen the gameplay due to an inherent numbers thing?

I can see both sides, obviously, as noted above. I didn't steal those sentences from anywhere.
Yet I can't help but wonder "why?" and "how long?".


How are the producers hoping to make up for the deficit of participants as it correlates to the amount of time the show will be airing? At a normal pace, evicting one couple a week, this show would be done in 6 weeks. There's still 8 more weeks to go. (AND we've already got an accelerated 1st eviction.)

Presuming that the producers knew that the couples twist wouldn't be able to last the projected 14 week run... Why did they decide to go ahead with it? Do we have to look forward to another "vote someone back in" twist? Are the remaining HGs gonna get "divorced" in a couple weeks?

What are some of your thoughts?
Anyone?


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Logic. Estee 02-13-08 1
   RE: Logic. tribephyl 02-13-08 14
 RE: Soulmates Twist kingfish 02-13-08 2
   RE: Soulmates Twist Estee 02-13-08 4
       RE: Soulmates Twist kingfish 02-13-08 17
   RE: Soulmates Twist Wallflower66 02-13-08 18
 RE: Soulmates Twist maroonclowns mom 02-13-08 3
   RE: Soulmates Twist nazpink 02-13-08 5
 RE: Soulmates Twist aquariaqueen 02-13-08 6
   RE: Soulmates Twist Sues 02-13-08 7
       RE: Soulmates Twist Wallflower66 02-13-08 19
 RE: Soulmates Twist jbug 02-13-08 8
   RE: Soulmates Twist mia rules18 02-13-08 9
 RE: Soulmates Twist CattyChat 02-13-08 10
   RE: Soulmates Twist jbug 02-13-08 11
       RE: Soulmates Twist Buggy 02-14-08 23
           RE: Soulmates Twist jbug 02-15-08 27
   RE: Soulmates Twist nailbone 02-13-08 13
   RE: Soulmates Twist tribephyl 02-13-08 15
   RE: Soulmates Twist JoshInSGV 02-13-08 16
   RE: Soulmates Twist Wacko Jacko 02-14-08 22
 Further Logic cahaya 02-13-08 12
   Failed Logic tribephyl 02-15-08 25
       RE: Failed Logic cahaya 02-15-08 26
 RE: Soulmates Twist JoshInSGV 02-14-08 20
 RE: Soulmates Twist mia rules18 02-14-08 21
   RE: Soulmates Twist RonReports 02-14-08 24

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1. "Logic."
It is a Big Brother twist.

Therefore, it is stupid.


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14. "RE: Logic."
Gah! Where were you at 7am when this was plaguing my brain?

Yes. You are right.

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2. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
LAST EDITED ON 02-13-08 AT 09:45 AM (EST)

What Estee said.

However, that being said, it's a twist on a show with limited possibilities for twists, so it's worth a try.

As to the Why? The forced coupling of people whose profiles indicate that they are compatible, and making them sleep with each other? Alone, with only some cameras that they sorta forget are there?

There's going to be a lot of footage that they will have edit heavily to qualify for prime time TV. And a lot of clips that the camera people and editors will be taking home with them. And a clip population explosion of X-rated clips on U-Tube sites.

This is a little off subject, but I want to see what's between Julie's legs. Aside from my usual interest in such things, there is the burning question, "is it just a blank, Barbie Doll spot, or not?"

My private theory is that that is where the battery recharger cord plugs in. Either that, or that is where the flash memory stick is inserted.

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4. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
You're assuming BB is more capable of running a compatibility test than it is of casting a show. I don't think that's a solid assumption -- and I also wouldn't be surprised if they screwed up the tests on purpose, matching people with partners they couldn't stand, then forcing them to stay together for the sake of drama.

As for your edit question: go back to bed. We already did that joke.

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17. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
Point taken, as to the compatibility screening. Which actually has the potential to improve the game.

And as to the Julie Chen thing? (OK, that joke has been done to death too. But it's a good, venerable joke, so just once more, for old time sake. It was the subject of a post that prompted a conversation between a blue peep and me, and the subsequent modification of that particular post. Very properly too, I definitely went over the line that time. But, well.. I get nostalgic.)

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18. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
My private theory is that that is where the battery recharger cord plugs in. Either that, or that is where the flash memory stick is inserted.

Actually...um...nevermind.

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3. "RE: Soulmates Twist"

Yep, what Estee said

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5. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
I got the general impression that the majority of these contestants are quite shallow. Whether they are compatible or not probably won't matter as they are more concerned with each others looks and ability to get some action to figure it all out. Although I too question BB's ability to give an accurate compatibility test as well. I'm sure it's based on superficial qualities (ex. physical preference, same taste in music, shows and movies) than actual qualities that could possibly take these folks somewhere (relationship wise). I also don't see this game as being the place to create many long lasting sparks, especially when these individuals are being forced.

It also stinks that there are two couples who will not or at least I don't think will happen due to the boyfriend/girlfriend playing the game together twist.

The older lady was quite witchy. I think she got overly hopeful when Julie announced the whole soulmates deal. Yes, it stinks that her "soulmate" is a public nose picker that calls her ma, but why take that aspect seriously and concentrate mostly on whether she was teamed up with someone who will benefit her game, not ruin it. Idiot!

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6. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
This twist is not fair to ANYONE. Either all have connections of some sort, or none of them should.

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7. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
I think the bed sharing is over the line....particularly when you have a known couple and you matched them with someone else. Ryan said he had a jealousy problem, are they trying for physical violence this season????

And really....they could't find an attractive 40-something male?????

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19. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
And really....they could't find an attractive 40-something male?????

Ain't that the truth?!! I know there are some out there... But to stick one mid-40s woman only with 20-somethings is even more lame!

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8. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
No compatibility test what.so.ever!
Solemates put together for 'entertainment' value. Otherwise, why wait till the last 4 to reveal who Sheila (?) would be paired with.....for the drama.
Tho I think she could have handled it better - and he could have also.


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9. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
Yeah, both Sheila and Adam could have handled that situation better, but boy was that entertaining watching her flip out and being so immature and shallow. Oh, the drama! Yeah, your partners in the game/house but nobody is forcing you to marry and start a life together! I knew this soul mate thing would be extremeley cheesy...I am hooked. Already.
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10. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
I'm on the fence about the soulmate thing. If it was done seriously with all true singles being matched with true potential soul mates, it could have been a lot of fun to see whether sparks ignite or not.

However, I would HATE the idea of being forced to share a bed with a complete stranger who was a smoker (as I am a non-smoker). That is just cruel and unusual punishment. I do think the 2 40-somethings on the show are about equally nasty (both in personality and looks) and I find it humorous they hate each other.

I feel sorry for the girl with the cheating former ex. Although, it would be pretty cool if they did work things out. 12 years is a long time to have a relationship, though cheating is a rough thing to get past.

I cannot stand that BB gives certain people an unfair advantage over others. The RL boyfriend/girlfriend is just not fair to the strangers in the house. Either everyone should have a RL partner in the house or none of them should have.

I'm keeping an open mind this season, after what became an unwatchable season last summer due to the extreme nastiness & vulgarity that was allowed. As long as there are no ##### wannabes in the house, I will be happy.

And is it just me or did most of the HGs look MUCH BETTER in their photos than they did on T.V.? The cuteness/hotness ratio went way down in my eyes when they were live.


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11. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
Either everyone should have a RL partner in the house or none of them should have.

It could have made for an interesting season if all the hampsters has a secret partner in the house - and everyone thinking they were the only ones.....

And you are right -- those photos were either glamour shots or retouched - not one of them really looked that great when they went into the house.


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23. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
It could have made for an interesting season if all the hampsters has a secret partner in the house - and everyone thinking they were the only ones.....

They already did this, 3 seasons back.
I really think they are out of ideas.

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27. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
oops! I wasn't watching back then.....
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13. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
I do think the 2 40-somethings on the show are about equally nasty

Adam is 29. Sheila is the only 40-something.

And is it just me or did most of the HGs look MUCH BETTER in their photos than they did on T.V.? The cuteness/hotness ratio went way down in my eyes when they were live.

Agreed! Natalie was especially a disappointment for me.


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15. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
I feel sorry for the girl with the cheating former ex. Although, it would be pretty cool if they did work things out. 12 years is a long time to have a relationship, though cheating is a rough thing to get past.

I kinda do as well. Feel bad for her that is. What made me a little less worried about her was when she said..."He cheated on me with a girl he didn't even know. Didn't even know!"

Well, honey, I hate to break it to you but I can guarantee it would be much worse (and even harder to work through) if the girl was someone he did know. Even worse if you knew her too.
So count your blessings that it was just some "nameless" chick who he didn't care about. The alternative is much worse.


And is it just me or did most of the HGs look MUCH BETTER in their photos than they did on T.V.? The cuteness/hotness ratio went way down in my eyes when they were live.

Hallalujah, sister! I've already given up on my crush with Josh. His purse fell out when he opened his mouth and that is sooo not my type.
Natalie is downright creepy looking and did anyone notice Matt's face during the HOH? Talk about bitter and bloated heads.

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16. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
I
>do think the 2 40-somethings
>on the show are about
>equally nasty (both in personality
>and looks) and I find
>it humorous they hate each
>other.
>

Apparently, I wasn't the only one who thought that Adam looks way older than the alleged 29 years stated in his profile.

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22. "RE: Soulmates Twist"

>I do think the 2 40-somethings
>on the show are about
>equally nasty (both in personality
>and looks) and I find
>it humorous they hate each
>other.


He is 29 she is 46.

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12. "Further Logic"
LAST EDITED ON 02-13-08 AT 03:19 PM (EST)

Given all of the above, particularly with the soulmate twist and paired action - and given all else that will be airing on the calendar - a 6-week show makes a big splash and a quick exit.


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(*cannonball splash*)

(eta) From zap2it: FOX increased its lead at 9 p.m. as "Idol" jumped to 17.7/26. "The Biggest Loser" ticked up to 4.9/7 to move NBC ahead of CBS and the premiere of "Big Brother 9," 4.6/7.

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25. "Failed Logic"
Actually CBS has already confirmed it'll be a full season.
Linked in bedemoney's post.
(Bet they're wishing they hadn't, now that the ratings have come out.)
So we're gonna have to think outside the box for a solution to the weekly evictions versus couples theme.

Oh and no more of this occam's razor theorizing, cahaya.
With BB it's never the most obvious outcome.
BB follows no known theories, scientific or otherwise.

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26. "RE: Failed Logic"
LAST EDITED ON 02-15-08 AT 00:43 AM (EST)

(*sigh*) I know. And the writers' strike is over on top of it all, so there goes the supposed rationale of this winter/spring edition of BB.

Me? I'd go for the quick 6 or 8, duck the schedule, and make a big splash as a prelude to summer.

But the 24/7 feeds are a money spinner. What can you say.

Ok, it goes three months. What's the over/under on the number of schedule changes we'll see with BB bumping up against AI, BL, and the other BB (*dribble dribble*)...?

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20. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
Oops! I just posted something about the twist over on Bashers. I'm not liking the couples twist right now. Sharon got screwed because Jacob stirred the pot with Parker without any strategic forethought.

And what was the point of the whole "Power Couples" twist. Why couldn't they just have a regular HOH and nominate two couples. Were the producers that much in a hurry to get rid of one couple. These lame twists are so unnecessary.

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21. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
Well I guess we saw last night that the coupling thing is NOT fair...one person's actions totally screwed the other partner last night. If I were Sharon I would be soooo upset with CBS...not only did she get stuck with her ex-boyfriend (who cheated on her) in the house but then she gets paired off with him, and again he messes up and gets them evicted. It's too bad for her, she really got jipped. I guess that now that nominations, and POV are coming into play that will make things a bit more fair for the couples...last night's flat out eviction was just bizarre to me.
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24. "RE: Soulmates Twist"
Of course when they evict two people at a time and one couple immediately, this will be a much shorter Big Brother than usual. One result is that people who are paying for a live feed will get even less for their money than in previous seasons.
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