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preraph 24 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-10-07, 12:13 PM (EST)
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"Natasha, what a tool" |
Well, I hope Tyra and panel are proud of themselves for saying all three girls were wrong about Natasha once they see the phone jackoff portion of the show from this week. I have a friend who lived in Russia for a decade, and he said a huge percentage of the women over there have had to become prostitutes because the economy is that bad. Of course we all know the cliche about Russian mail-order brides, and I think that is what we have here. I really kind of understand a girl has to do what a girl has to do -- and I realize Natasha is probably looking for a way out of her marriage of convenience by making her own money -- but Natasha seems a little too into the whole porn thing, like maybe this is a choice, not a necessity. In the beginning the panel noted she had a predisposition for porn poses. Her only decent photo was a porn shot. It was grotesque, IMO, with her lips curled like a horse's -- as if they're not pronounced enough. Eww. Anyway, my theory is that Natasha had a bad review because of being sick and figured she was getting cut, as she should have been long ago for not being a good model, and she played her trump card, which is to let pornographers all over the world know that she would be amenable to a contract. I mean, c'mon, what else could that phone thing have been about? I have no doubt she'll be in Playboy and then later, porn movies, as soon as her contract with ATM expires. No doubt. But Please, Please do not make that trashy girl a Top Model. She is SO annoying, and the other girls are totally right that she is fake, fake, fake, and has a hidden agenda.
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05-10-07, 12:45 PM (EST)
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Wow, kinda went off a little there didn't we? Let me guess, is this Dionne? My take on some of your points: Russians becoming prostitutes: Well if you are blonde and russian and cannot play tennis, then your options are limited, I agree. But I don't think being a 'mail order bride' is the same as being a prostitute. How is it any different from the 1000s of arrainged marriages out there. At least she seems to enjoy her life here and the opportunities it provides. Porn Thing: Since when is being sexual with your SPOUSE porno? Especially considering she has been away from her SPOUSE for many weeks, and is now half the globe away? I think you are being just like the other three girls last night, who seem to forget that Renee was their target in the past, then Brittany, and now Natasha. And you got your timeline wrong. She had the phone call prior to getting sick and having the bad photo shoot. So that point is not valid at all, IMO. Natasha being FAKE FAKE FAKE? Sorry don't see it. I do see her being consistant in her personality the whole show through so far, so I think this is just the way she is. If you don't like her, that is one thing, but like the other three girls, if they do not like you, then they say you are 1)a ##### (as they called Renee), 2)a Whiner (Brittany), 3)Fake (Natasha). Get over this, that is the way she is, if you don't like her, FINE. Hidden Agenda? This is is the biggest joke. What hidden agenda? To take over the world? To murder the President? C'mon, her agenda is to win ANTM. So I guess I disagree with almost everything you said above, but we are all entitled to our own opinions. Also, I don't think Natasha will be in the finals, but we shall see.
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preraph 24 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-10-07, 03:09 PM (EST)
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Gee, I'm flattered you think I'm a model. I've usually only been called one when very drunk loser men are trying to pick me up, and that was in the distant past. But if I WAS a model, I think I would call myself something cute like Nene. PUKE. Which is, of course, what her baby called her. Very creative. Well, I missed your point about the arranged marriages. They are just prostitution where the parents are the pimps. Believe, me there is a difference between that and selling yourself over the internet. But with the latter, at least it is a BIT of a choice. I personally had to watch my assistant being put into an ambulance after she had a meltdown as time to marry the man her parents sold her to drew near. So I know about arranged marriages and what delights they are if you're a young virgin. You're just being melodramatic, I understand, because of course you realize there is a difference between having sex with your husband and having sex with your husband on television. Don't you? If not, then ding, ding, ding, you win this conversation, because I see no point in debating with psychos. Traditionally, having sex on film has been considered porn. She's already there. She IS consistent, I'll give you that. She's consistently trashy and irritatingly and fakely sweet and pornographic. Some people like that. I'm not one of them. Do you not remember the first episode, what a nasty speech she gave? It was really b*tchy and mean. Then she figured out that wasn't going to play and trotted out her "sweet and innocent" material. I was actually feeling sorry for her until she told us how wonderful her life had been in Russia. Until then, I thought, well, she can't help it, it was survival, she doesn't know how damaging it is not only to herself but everyone involved. Now I see her as a slight step up from Anna Nicole. I really can't wait to get a load of her husband. What, no photos, Natasha?
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Magnolia_Rocker 2139 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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05-10-07, 03:15 PM (EST)
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I just have to ask....do you know Natasha in person? Cause you sure are getting worked up over someone off TV. I usually save this sort of anger for someone in RL that kicked my puppy or tried to steal my DH or something.
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amea_gari 585 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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05-10-07, 10:35 PM (EST)
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Wow, what interesting 'theories' you have, pre-raph. So, kissing a phone=having sex with your husband on TV? Give me a break. I give credit to Natasha for not being so obsessively self-conscious and letting go to talk without vulgarity to someone she is obviously in love with and mises. She spoke in a similar manner to her baby girl. Was that sexual? Let me also remind you that she's from a different culture-- modern Russia, where women are taught and perceived to be overtly sexual. The magazines, movies, and TV they have presented a more overt, sexualized image of women, and that's what the girl has grown up with. I am sure with time she will learn to tone this down, just as she has done in her photos. Calling her a porn star and writing her off as a whore are, in my opinion, insulting hyperbole. I'm personally offended and wonder at the aggressiveness of these 'accusations'.Pre-Raph said "You're just being melodramatic, I understand, because of course you realize there is a difference between having sex with your husband and having sex with your husband on television. Don't you? If not, then ding, ding, ding, you win this conversation, because I see no point in debating with psychos. Traditionally, having sex on film has been considered porn. She's already there." I mean, wow, when did Natasha have sex on TV? Wouldn't that be closer to Dionne's photoshoot with Kim? Pre-Raph said "Well, I missed your point about the arranged marriages. They are just prostitution where the parents are the pimps." Way to go, you just insulted several cultures and millions of people. Arranged marriages are not always a happy thing or desired by the children, but that depends on circumstances and individuals. Numerous people throughout the world are completely satisfied with the practice. But hey, I guess since it's not YOUR way of doing things, it must be pure evil. It's also incorrect to say that there's no personal choice in arranged marriage. It's not always forced. Arranged means the parents choose the spouse, there's not NECESSARILY any force in it. As for no pictures of her husband and child, what, is she supposed to flaunt them and exploit them like Renee? Maybe she wants to keep that part of her life separate, since those girls have been nasty to her-- despite the fact she has consistently been kind and congratulatory and non-confrontational? Also, I think you seem to forget Jaslene's initial "All those girls are just Jealous of me" meltdown when she felt she was being picked on.
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mistyrose52 795 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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05-11-07, 09:27 AM (EST)
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Whoa-this has become quite a heated conversation! All I'm going to say is that while Natasha takes very nice pictures, and I really DID like her up until last week, I, too, was taken back last week.Not necessarily because of the 'phone sex' or whatever, or because she may or may not have a hidden agenda, but I can see where someone could easily jump to that conclusion having to live with that girl 24/7! MY problem with Natasha is that she just doesn't GET IT! She is madly, deeply in love with herself, and THAT is not a language barrier thing. She is always the best, she is far and above the others, she tells the story the best (even though NO ONE could hear a word she was saying!), and she impresses everyone so much more than anyone. Just ask her. Not that there's anything wrong with self-confidence. But, in MY mind, that girl is REEKING of it! And I do believe, having flash backs to the pool party, she is easily swayed, and easily taken to a place of loftyiness, where anything goes, and YES, Tyra will have a huge nightmare on her hands if she even thinks of putting this girl in a top model position! Just MY 2 cents.......
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nazpink 1058 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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05-11-07, 10:03 AM (EST)
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I think it's highly unfair that people are making assumptions about Natasha's marriage when they have no substantial evidence to back up their accusations. Being young and from a poor country and married to an older American man has other reasoning's other than the "mail-order" bride theory. Did anyone consider that maybe the two of them met through mutual friends or because he was in Russia for business? It is on Natasha's profile that she was a college student so is it possible that she was receiving her education in America when she met this man? Those theories are just as equally, if not more, reasonable.As far as Natasha not having pictures of her husband and child....who's to say that she doesn't? Natasha hasn't exactly been treated all that well and any interest shown for her has been more out of gossip. Natasha isn't oblivious to this and may not have any desire to share what is special to her with people that are rude to her. Natasha has had conversations with both her husband and child on the phone, so clearly they exist and why does she need indulge a bunch of catty biatches by "proving" what she knows she has? I wouldn't. Also, her not wearing a wedding ring means squat. Some people just don't prefer to do so. Or maybe her husband couldn't afford a ring. There is also the possibility that Natasha choose to keep it home. I doubt the contestants are allowed to wear their rings during photo shoots and maybe Natasha figured that it would be safer at home. The point is, every season the girls always find someone to target. In the beginning, it was Renee, then Brit, Natasha, Jaslene kind of took some heat. Even Sarah, Jael, Diana, and Whitney were given attitude by some of the girls. Natasha is a threat. She is very photogenic and personable. The judges love her and the fact that she works hard in this competition.... makes the other girls catty towards her. Even the way Natasha handles criticism is excellent. Imagine being treated as an outcast the entire time and being put down in front of the judges and still standing tall and coming up with an excellent explanation to it all? Not many people could push through that without crying or getting extremely p!ssed. Also, I really don't think the porno bit is really accurate. Many people talk on the phone with their spouse in that manner, especially being away from each other for a long period of time. Being "overly" sexy isn't hard to do and many contestants in the past have been accused of it. Ask almost any woman on the street to strike a sexy pose and you will find that it will be "porno-like" because that is what we are taught.
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pinksparkleguitar 1222 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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05-11-07, 12:52 PM (EST)
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*Sits with Ginger and Naz.*Just because in one episode Whitney brings up that she thinks Natasha is a mail-order-bride (which if you watch the episode, she is saying with a considerable amount of snark, not truth) We're supposed to believe that Natasha is one??? Because EVERY girl who is Russian and married to an American must be a mail-order-bride. Right?? Wow. Just wow. An EmyDi nickname on a Shar sig
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memzoo48 347 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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05-13-07, 00:03 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Natasha, what a tool" |
... or on "The Bachelor"?! How many people here watch that show and hope for an engagement?
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memzoo48 347 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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05-13-07, 00:05 AM (EST)
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It looks like Natasha to me, and the entire family is adorable. Why does everyone want to assume she was a mail order bride, anyway? Lots of Americans travel to Russia. I did, and met some very interesting people there. Is it so farfetched to believe that her husband made a trip to Russia and met her there and fell in love? They look perfect together, IMO.
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nazpink 1058 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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05-13-07, 08:42 AM (EST)
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If there is deception....it would be with his age!!!! He certainly looks younger than in his 40's!
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AshLanie 895 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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>I think it's highly unfair that >people are making assumptions about >Natasha's marriage when they have >no substantial evidence to back >up their accusations. Being young >and from a poor country >and married to an older >American man has other reasoning's >other than the "mail-order" bride >theory. Did anyone consider that >maybe the two of them >met through mutual friends or >because he was in Russia >for business? It is on >Natasha's profile that she was >a college student so is >it possible that she was >receiving her education in America >when she met this man? >Those theories are just as >equally, if not more, reasonable. > > >As far as Natasha not having >pictures of her husband and >child....who's to say that she >doesn't? Natasha hasn't exactly been >treated all that well and >any interest shown for her >has been more out of >gossip. Natasha isn't oblivious to >this and may not have >any desire to share what >is special to her with >people that are rude to >her. Natasha has had conversations >with both her husband and >child on the phone, so >clearly they exist and why >does she need indulge a >bunch of catty biatches by >"proving" what she knows she >has? I wouldn't. > >Also, her not wearing a wedding >ring means squat. Some people >just don't prefer to do >so. Or maybe her husband >couldn't afford a ring. There >is also the possibility that >Natasha choose to keep it >home. I doubt the contestants >are allowed to wear their >rings during photo shoots and >maybe Natasha figured that it >would be safer at home. > > >The point is, every season the >girls always find someone to >target. In the beginning, it >was Renee, then Brit, Natasha, >Jaslene kind of took some >heat. Even Sarah, Jael, Diana, >and Whitney were given attitude >by some of the girls. > > >Natasha is a threat. She is >very photogenic and personable. The >judges love her and the >fact that she works hard >in this competition.... makes the >other girls catty towards her. >Even the way Natasha handles >criticism is excellent. Imagine being >treated as an outcast the >entire time and being put >down in front of the >judges and still standing tall >and coming up with an >excellent explanation to it all? >Not many people could push >through that without crying or >getting extremely p!ssed. > >Also, I really don't think the >porno bit is really accurate. >Many people talk on the >phone with their spouse in >that manner, especially being away >from each other for a >long period of time. Being >"overly" sexy isn't hard to >do and many contestants in >the past have been accused >of it. Ask almost any >woman on the street to >strike a sexy pose and >you will find that it >will be "porno-like" because that >is what we are taught. Natasha, herself, on either the first or second show called herself a mail order bride-She told this to the judges. She said she was (well she has given two ages) 18, then she said 20 years old when she married him, him being 40 at the time. She has been married and in this country now for two years.
Two years, the time it is safe here in the U.S. to leave their American husbands without being deported. How much you want to bet if she wins we soon will hear she has left her husband?
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memzoo48 347 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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05-13-07, 00:11 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Natasha, what a tool" |
I definitely did not hear her describe herself as a "mail order bride." I remember her saying that her husband was older, around 40. Well, it will be easy enough to verify in one of the ANTM marathons.
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amea_gari 585 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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05-13-07, 08:30 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Natasha, what a tool" |
I'd take that bet and bet against you. That's a LOT of assumptions.
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russiangirl 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-14-07, 02:26 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Natasha, what a tool" |
this does seem like a lot of heat. and seriously don't understand at all why you think she is a mail-order bride. I've been here for 2 years too. and I can tell you honestly that I know 100 girls who came here as exchange students and decided to stay because they met a man they wanna be with. about Russians becoming prostitutes, whoa.... It's happening in every country, including USA, not just Russia. plus there is a whole lot men who wants to have a Russian girl as their wife, it's not new. and the person who said about different culture totally right. yes most people do that and I'm pretty as hell when her husband saw it he was on 7-th heaven. as for the others husbands, they are going to ask their wifes for a little bit explanation why they didn't miss them that much as she did. and i'm pretty sure men love that kinda talk on the phone, so she decided what my man wants my man gets....
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amanda11694 116 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-14-07, 07:19 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Natasha, what a tool" |
In one episode, Natasha struggled from being away from her baby, I wonder if the judges would eliminate her for that reason? (if it continues)
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goldie1000 1087 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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28. "RE: Natasha, what a caring, thoughtful, person" |
I completely agree with Nazpinks comment completely.I think it's highly unfair that Preralph is making assumptions about Natasha's marriage when Preralph has no substantial evidence to back up the accusations. In fact the accusations are just plain stupid. Some people just like to make ****up for their own personal enjoyment & pleasure. "Gee maybe Natasha just likes to show her affection for her husband".... could that not be a reason..... You have big lips, you must be a porn star....
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i doubt that natasha has a motive.the girls probably think because she is russian, that she is automatically a mail order bride she never discussed with renee and dionne, who are mothers about her child, i don't think, there for they had misconseptions about her. during the female male photo, natasha rocked it.
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