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"Niambi slicing open scarecrow man."
Lanna42 263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-19-06, 11:59 AM (EST)
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"Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Anyone find Niambi being given a stuffed man to represent her Father and being told by Iyanla to "Go ahead and slice him open.Rip his stuffing out.Let's see what's in there."a bit odd?What did Iyanla do filch the scarecrow out of the rose garden?What kind of imagery of hostility towards males is she inadvertently conveying there?It's like she gets the idea for these things by watching reruns of "Silence Of The Lambs."If I were Niambi's Father watching this I'm not sure what I'd be thinking "Hide the scisssors."I know Niambi has conveyed that she does feel hostility for him but that just looked odd.
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Juliejo 477 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-19-06, 02:11 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
I feel sorry for Niambi because here we go again. Everything your daddy did to you is just okay. Its all your fault. Whatever you said aboutt your dad is really what you feel about yourself. Next Iguana will have her wash herself in some potion or throw soemthing off the balcony or sit in swamp water. Iguana is a voodoo queen.
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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04-19-06, 05:28 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
I'm a seeeing it. It's a coomming to mmeeee!! Yes another trip into the swamp. Only the swamp can truly cleanse her. She must feel her dirt. Come to the swamp and mud wrestle with Jodi.
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Lanna42 263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-19-06, 07:53 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Baxteraon't give the focus groups in LA any ideas.Or the next thing we'll see is SO mud wrestling.Although in light of this season's HG's it seems appropriate.Match em up. Iyanla can referee.
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dasboot 223 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-20-06, 10:56 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Well, at least it was a scarecrow and not a sock puppet this time. An improvement. Wonder how many 'scarecrows' The High Priestess has slashed (literally or figuratively) in her life? Still trying to figure out that projecting thing. WTF? Hard to tell cuz I don't know the entire history of Niambi's relationship with her father but it seems like the same old hard line/double standard....Niambi doesn't get to have her pain. She's just expected to suck it up. Damn you, Iguana. Damn you!
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Twinkles 324 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-19-06, 06:55 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
I thought it was weird before it even got to the scissors and the ripping. To me it was a direction to look inside your fathers clothes and see what you'll find! It was oddly incestous and Then it got violent. Wheeee!
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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04-20-06, 08:13 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
I just find a strange kind of violence towards men portrayed in this house. It just seemed really weird to be ripping apart a scarecrow of your father looking for things. Sorry but it gave me the creeps with IV telling her to go deeper, maybe IV has a future in horror movies, she definitly could join Dr. Phil in spoofing Scary Movie. I could see her doing the Scarecrow thing.
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Lanna42 263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-20-06, 10:14 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Usually Iyanla's veiled gleeful hostility in these exercises is aimed at the HG's. The strange thing about this one was that rather getting an insight into NIAMBI it felt like we were getting some strange Freudian connotation from the makeup of the exercise itself about IYANLA.It's pretty hard not to notice when she's on the sidelines cheering "Go ahead SLICE him open!"As Niambi gingerly vivisects the symbol of Daddy.I'm no psychoanalyst But yes,alittle hostility towards males indicted there.Just alittle...........God let me out of Iyanla's head again.Yuck......Iyanla can be an effective LC.Especially when the pseudo Mother role is called for but in some cases as in this one it gets strange.Yes,she could have a role in LA.I'm not thinking of the Hollywood scene exactly.But the spirit is definitely one I can identify. Nice to hear from a fellow Bostonian Baxtera.Knew there was something I liked about you.
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Lanna42 263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-20-06, 12:55 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Do you really want to delve any further into Iyanla's psyche than we already have?Scarecrow Daddy is going to have to make a pretty miraculous recovery to follow Niambi around.Although you never know.Iyanla's probably stuffing the cotton batting into one as we speak for her next client. She seems to have a thing for employing these armies of non-people in her exercises.The mannequin for Jill.The styrofoam guillotine victims heads for Allison,the mask for Jodi and now a scarecrow for Niambi.It's almost as if Iyanla is trying to populate the world with a cavalcade of messed up therapy dolls she can command at will.For all we know she props the Boo-Boo's up in their chairs at night around the dinner table.As I've said regarding Jodi "I don't know if you've actually slept with 20 men but blow-up dolls,scarecrows,statues and mannequins don't count as actual people."
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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04-20-06, 12:59 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Hey look at how long Jill's manequin and Jodi's mask lasted. I'm not sure we're done with this scarecrow yet.
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steelmagnolya 49 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-20-06, 01:08 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
>Anyone find Niambi being given a >stuffed man to represent her >Father and being told by >Iyanla to "Go ahead and >slice him open.Rip his stuffing >out.Let's see what's in there."a >bit odd?What did Iyanla do >filch the scarecrow out of >the rose garden?What kind of >imagery of hostility towards males >is she inadvertently conveying there?It's >like she gets the idea >for these things by watching >reruns of "Silence Of The >Lambs."If I were Niambi's Father >watching this I'm not sure >what I'd be thinking "Hide >the scisssors."I know Niambi has >conveyed that she does feel >hostility for him but that >just looked odd. I saw the episode last night and didn't get that Niambi was "ripping" the stuffing out or that the exercise showed hositilty towards men. Niambi cut through the outer layer of clothing to retrieve her "feelings" that she had written about her father. Then those feelings were paired with her thoughts about herself which paralleled the negativity she said about her father. I don't know any other way to have powerfully demonstrated to Niambi (or Jill with Miss Mabel) how what she projects on her father is what she feels about herself. It's breaking that self defeating attitude that will cause her to change. We know she can't change her father. I thought it was right on because it is hard for us to see how we really are or how we project ourselves to others.
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Lanna42 263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-20-06, 01:24 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Steelmagnolya, If it worked for you or Niambi that's great.I like to make fun of Iyanla because she is so(in my opinion)over the top in some of things she says and does.I think it's all in how literal an interpetation you want to give things.Personally,I tend to look at things from a pretty literal(visual) perspective.I think the symbolism has worked better for some of her clients than it has for others.
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GoodnightLittleBear 461 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-20-06, 04:28 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
I myself have grown weary of Iyanla's symbolistic therapy (sock puppet dad for Jill, the mannequin etc). I was surprised that Iyanla didn't make a piñata in the shape of a john or her ex for Christina to bash around.
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Lanna42 263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-20-06, 04:35 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
ROTFLMAO................What exactly would a "John" shaped pinata look like? And would she really want to bash it?
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steelmagnolya 49 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-20-06, 05:16 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Well I am sure we can agree the coach's strategies are different. Iyanla's is "symbolistic therapy" and Rhonda's is arts and craft therapy. Maybe there will one day be a museum of all the growth in the house...Miss Mabel, sock puppets with hair, Xtina's art, Kim's wall of anger, TJ's box and the sausage & bacon Kelly & Jodi warred over.
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GoodnightLittleBear 461 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-20-06, 05:23 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Don't forget Lisa2's swamp of misery, Lisa1's cage (complete with solidified puddle o' barf) and Allison's fly infested refrigerator.
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tac_2 351 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-20-06, 05:29 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Niambi slicing open scarecrow man." |
Rhonda's is arts >and craft therapy.Straightjackets, cages, enclosed boxes, locked rooms, etc.--those are artsy? I have to respectfully disagree. Both IV and Rhonda have the same style of punishment for the women, only difference is the tools and toys they use in their 'therapy'. Maybe >there will one day be >a museum of all the >growth in the house...Miss Mabel, >sock puppets with hair, Xtina's >art, Kim's wall of anger, >TJ's box and the sausage >& bacon Kelly & Jodi >warred over. Sure, why not. As long as they don't turn Mr.Scarecrow into a talking puppet I think I'm okay with the SO museum idea. ;)
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