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"The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
In case you actually give a frak about this episode, please comment here. We'll throw in the ATR special at a discount.
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 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 1
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... mrc 03-01-10 3
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Snidget 03-01-10 2
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Estee 03-01-10 4
       RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Snidget 03-01-10 7
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... vince3 03-01-10 6
 Sponsored by Masterlock. Estee 03-01-10 5
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 8
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... KoalaChick 03-01-10 9
       RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 10
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... perspective 03-01-10 11
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... mrc 03-01-10 14
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Estee 03-01-10 15
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jolyn8852 03-01-10 48
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Monica27 03-02-10 62
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 12
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 13
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 16
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 17
       RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Snidget 03-01-10 18
           RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... whyme333 03-01-10 24
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... joel goodson 03-01-10 19
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 20
 DWTS revealed! jbug 03-01-10 21
   RE: DWTS revealed! Snidget 03-01-10 22
       No... Estee 03-01-10 23
           RE: No... Snidget 03-01-10 25
       RE: DWTS revealed! Tummy 03-02-10 56
   Gack Snidget 03-01-10 33
   RE: DWTS revealed! jbug 03-01-10 34
       RE: DWTS revealed! skye 03-01-10 43
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... samboohoo 03-01-10 26
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 28
       RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... samboohoo 03-01-10 29
           RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Estee 03-01-10 32
               RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... samboohoo 03-01-10 37
                   *puke* samboohoo 03-01-10 38
                   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Estee 03-01-10 44
                       RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... samboohoo 03-02-10 50
           RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 39
               RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Snidget 03-01-10 42
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 27
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Estee 03-01-10 30
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 31
       RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Estee 03-01-10 35
           RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... whyme333 03-01-10 36
               RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Snidget 03-01-10 40
               RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 41
                   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... qwertypie 03-02-10 63
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... jbug 03-01-10 45
 and the next bachelorette jbug 03-01-10 46
   RE: and the next bachelorette jbug 03-01-10 47
   RE: and the next bachelorette mrc 03-02-10 54
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... kathliam 03-02-10 49
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... samboohoo 03-02-10 51
       RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... motormouth 03-03-10 75
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... corcam 03-02-10 52
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... samboohoo 03-02-10 53
       RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Loree 03-02-10 60
 Jake's PJs mrc 03-02-10 55
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... thndrkttn 03-02-10 57
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... kathliam 03-02-10 59
   My analysis mrc 03-02-10 61
       RE: My analysis samboohoo 03-02-10 67
       RE: My analysis Snidget 03-02-10 69
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... corcam 03-02-10 58
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... espanola55 03-02-10 64
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... mrc 03-02-10 65
       RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Capn2patch 03-02-10 71
   RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... Lorr 03-02-10 68
 RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Fin... erin_taylor 03-02-10 66
 Vienna's Appearance samboohoo 03-02-10 70
   RE: Vienna's Appearance mrc 03-03-10 72
       RE: Vienna's Appearance Loree 03-03-10 73
       Nose job? thndrkttn 03-03-10 74
           RE: Nose job? samboohoo 03-03-10 76

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1. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
MrC, you know I'm gonna be watching
I might be all alone, but I will be here.
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3. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I'll watch, but I'll FF through most of it.

A Slice of Manga

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2. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I may be watching. Not much else on, and I need to know how much booze I'm going to have to stock up on to make it through this upcoming season of DWTS.
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4. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
So. Not a good time to let you know Edyta was seen going into RussHell's trailer home, then?
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7. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
May your residence be infested with a multitude of purse dogs.
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6. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
You and me both.
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5. "Sponsored by Masterlock."
I rate the horror of a bachelor's decision by the number of duplicate threads to appear after it's made. I'm not sure Vienna is a ten-lock error. Some of the bracing has already been done against the possibility, no one seems to feel that match would last anyway, and you have to think the supermarket tabloid articles provided an early spleen venting before the steam hit critical mass. There's a chance this season will pass quietly and with a heavy waft of deodorizer.

It's not a good chance...

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8. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I can not stand Tenley's voice!
It is so 'cartoonish'
and her laugh is so fakey or something
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03-01-10, 08:31 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Any DWTS leaks yet?
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10. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
LOL
I don't pay a lot of attention to commercials but none that I have noticed so far.

Jake's mom loves Tenley.
Jake's mom hates Vienna.

Course the family knew ahead of Vienna's visit that she had problems getting along with the others.
How did they hear about that?

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11. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
LAST EDITED ON 03-02-10 AT 10:25 AM (EST)

News Alert!!

Please be aware that the new revolution is here and it is against bullying of all kinds. I did not watch this show, but that Jake introduced Vienna to his family as the girl that didn't get along with the other girls...please! Current studies (for working folks) show that the person who is the biggest threat, meaning the most talented, the most efficient, the most educated, are often targeted by bullies. Just because someone doesn't get along with 25 women competing for the same man (!!??) doesn't make them the bad one. Could be just the opposite! People, please think about this in your every day lives and when meet someone (or even just hear something about them) give them a chance before you judge them. We might see a lot less school and other mass shootings if instant, or any at all, judgement of others were discouraged instead of encouraged. Good behavior is expected of all, not just one.

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14. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Apparently, Vienna is (semi) literate.
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03-01-10, 09:27 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Eleven p.m. EST already?

Coincidentally, I feel like shooting someone right now! (But that's really a constant.)

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48. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
yes...and you have people like Vienna bullying people right out of her way regardless of how someone feels fighting for what she wants....and never looks back. Knock em down one by one....and now she will knock his family out one by one.
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62. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
No, this girl brought it on and wouldn't shut her mouth. If she would of kept her business with Jake to her self and been humble then no one would have been annoyed with her but that is why she didn't get along with the house. She was one of the ugliest girls and she thought she was hot stuff in that house. If I was as unattractive as her the last thing I would be doing is acting like I was too confident for all the competition in the house. It is called DELUSIONAL!!!!
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12. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
oops
Jake is telling Tenley they don't have as much of a physical chemistry as they have an emotional chemistry.
She's hurt

I was already thinking after they both met his family that Vienna is going to be the one.

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13. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
But then again maybe he looks past the physical attraction he has for Vienna and sees more of a life with Tenley.
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16. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
So Jake is in love with 2 women; he'll get to choose 1 and move on with his life.
One woman will have her heart broken. I guess they all know this can happen when they start this but still....
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17. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Every time I watch this show, I think about how the one that is chosen has to live with knowing that he said he also loved the other.
Will she always think about the times he spent with the other; will she always wonder how often he thinks of the other.
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18. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I'd be more wondering how the editing staff managed to wring two hours of "oh the drama" out of one decision between two girls.
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24. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Oh my God. Cheesey song for cheesy, fake girl. Is there any part of her that isn't purchased. Ali, what did you do? Did CBS pay you money to leave and become the next bachlorette?
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19. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Oh...looks like Tenly isn't the one.
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20. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Well, it didn't take long for a 1st time poster to bring the news LOL

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21. "DWTS revealed!"
LAST EDITED ON 03-01-10 AT 10:01 PM (EST)

the world's sexiest woman - pamela anderson
football's most outrageous - chad ocxhocinco
soap star - aiden turner
broadcasting beauty -berin andrews
beverlt hills bad girl - shannen doherty
the original moon walker - buzz aldrin
reno 911's funniest - niecy nash
pussycat doll - nichole scherzinger
Olympic golden boy - evan lysacek
reality's most watched supermom - kate gosselin

and the 11th to be announced coming up later....

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22. "RE: DWTS revealed!"
If they want oh.the.drama it will be Evgeni Plushenko.
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23. "No..."
...it'll be Jon.
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25. "RE: No..."
If he isn't on the show....

Do you think this is her way to force him to take care of the kids for a few weeks?

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56. "RE: DWTS revealed!"
LOL. And then you and I could argue who did the best cha-cha until we forget what we're arguing about.
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33. "Gack"
Jake? Really?

So they are going to torture us with that On The Wings Of Love song with him dancing, aren't they?

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34. "RE: DWTS revealed!"
#11

Jake

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43. "RE: DWTS revealed!"
He must no longer be with Vienna then because there's no way that nut job would let him near another woman.


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26. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
*completely disgusted*


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28. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
So will Tneley or Ali be the next bachelorette?
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29. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Don't know. Don't care. I won't watch again.


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32. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
What are you willing to put up against the chance you backslide?
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37. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Well, Jason and Molly are getting married next Monday.


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38. "*puke*"
Vienna's my baby? *hurl* He's never felt so much heat? Um, Jake, that might not be heat, buddy.

I got everything and a million other things? A million creepy, crawly little things. Ugh.

Get this man off of my screen. He is so disgusting.


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44. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Well, Jason and Molly are getting married next Monday.

I'm not quite sure where you're going with this.

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50. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I just meant I would probably watch it.


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39. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Guess it doesn't bother me too much as I just watch it as a tv show that is scripted a lot anyway....

and one that is edited to the top degree to get as much drama as they can out of it.
Like I mentioned above, his family had heard about Vienna's "problems". How did they hear before her visit? The show didn't show till after the proposal, so when & how?
I figure it was told to them intentionally for the drama; and set up that his family would "get to know her" like Jake did.

lots- edited & scripted.....

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42. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I figured Jake wasn't kept in complete isolation from everyone the entire time and may have said something to one of the family members early on that one of the girls was not getting along with the other girls.
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27. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
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Jake has watched too much AI.
gave Vienna her promise ring back; like she wasn't the one.
Let her stand there and shake and look broken;
then told her he loves her;
got down on his knee proposed;
gave her the final rose.
(all while we had to listen to "on the wings of love" again.

Just the kind of proposal a woman wants, right?

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30. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I can safely say that if I ever received that kind of proposal, it wouldn't be down on one knee so much as doubled over en route to the floor.
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31. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
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wrong place

oops - I posted Jake here = then took out. sorry estee

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35. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
...I know I said this over on AI, but if there was just some way to vote against people...
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36. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I like the way you think. Let the public pick the final two and the bacholor/ette gets to pick from the two. I think they would be better off. How many seasons have there been versus the number of lasting relationships?
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40. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Didn't they do that?

Married by America. Everyone thought it was a bad idea?

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41. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
whyme,
voting against referred to Jake and voting against instead of for dancers on DWTS - not choosing his wife
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63. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
No, I like Whyme's way of thinking
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45. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
so the first new poster arrives to bash Jake LOL

that's one

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46. "and the next bachelorette"
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Ali

so when do we find out how she handled leaving her job for this one?

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47. "RE: and the next bachelorette"
It's so funny ......
America always wants one that who lost out as the next bachelor or bcahelorette.
And then? they always mess it up

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54. "RE: and the next bachelorette"
On Jimmy Kimmel last night, she said that yesterday was her last day at Facebook.

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49. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I have to say, as much as I didn't care for either of the final 2 women, and as much as Tenley annoyed me with her voice and too-perky-to-be-true personality, that was the classiest, most mature reaction to being dumped at F2 that I've ever seen on this show. Even DH commented on it. It was the first moment I liked Tenley even just a little, and kinda hoped she would be the next Bachelorette. Why didn't we see that Tenley over the past 6 weeks? Perhaps if Jake had seen that side of her, instead of the rainbow-spewing Disney princess wanna-be, she would have been the last person standing.

Other than that, the whole thing was a huge pile of stinking shyte.

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51. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I agree with you about Tenley's reaction.

My opinion starting to really go downhill right when Corrie left. He's "in love" with four different women, and he's pretty much requiring them to all fall in love with him, knowing he's only going to end up with one.

I wonder how much of an impact Ali's leaving had on him. Would we be looking at a different ending had she stayed?

I also think that Vienna and Tenley are two completely different women behind closed bedroom doors. Nothing wrong with that - to each his own. But I think it's kind of ironic that he made a comment earlier in the season (at the castle with Gia and Vienna) about this being about "heart appeal and not sex appeal," and I would bet my paycheck that this decision came down to sex appeal.


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75. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Ok, I don’t think I’ve weighed in yet on this forum, so here goes:

Jake - I stopped liking him last season because *he* seemed too good to be true (much like Tenley). He really went with the ‘good boy’ image and it made me a little sick. Then, while watching him on this season, I vacillated between wanting him to choose the woman *I* liked, or not caring, since I don’t like him anyways. I, too, hated how he so badly needed each woman to declare her love, while knowing he couldn’t have them all. I also hated him declaring his *own* love, because I think a reasonably intelligent person should know you can’t be “in love” with multiple people you’ve only just met.

I agree with Boo on everything. Should have just said that and left it alone, lol.



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52. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Tenley What he was trying to say is that you weren't skanky enough for him.. That is what you were missing.

Let's face it here people Jake picked the mistress over the wife. Tenley would make a great wife and a mother, what Jake needs.

However Vienna is a mistress type to make him feel like he is the most important thing in the world above everything else and boink him everytime he wants and swoon over him. I hope they don't make it or if they do don't have children. I have a feeling Vienna would eat her young.

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53. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
You said what I was trying to say right above.

I think what bothered me so much is that his whole theme all season was about finding a wife, values, etc. *barf*


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60. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Yes, Jake picked exactly opposite of what he was declaring he wanted at the beginning of the season. Mr I'm-Too-Perfect claimed he was looking for a wife and life partner that shared his values. He ended up choosing the wild skanky one that got him hot and bothered. It will last as long as the sex is good. That is about all they have in common. They both want the publicity and that will keep them together for awhile too. But once the sexual chemistry has cooled down Jake will be wondering why he picked her. Jake is almost as immature as she is.
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55. "Jake's PJs"
When the Jakinator got out of bed in his lounge pants, I couldn't help but think of Phil. A smaller Phil, of course.

What is Phil's golf equipment?

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57. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I want to hear from all the peeps from Jillian’s season who went on and on and on and on that Jillian was an idiot for not picking such a smart, handsome, strong, genuine stand-up guy–-who then turned around and picked someone like Vienna. VIENNA: fake boobs, bleached hair, Hooter’s girl, self-proclaimed princess who has wrecked five cars and Daddy has replaced every one of them and gives her ever material thing that she wants.

How does the Jake from last season compare to the one from this season?

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59. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
It seems to be the same with every retread -- they go in to the season looking for home and hearth and finding someone with a good heart and family values, then end up choosing the one that excites them, ahem, a little further south of the heart.

Jake isn't the first person to come off as completely hypocritical in his choice. Just the most recent. And possibly the most bland.


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Every year I ask myself -- why do I continue to watch this dreck?

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61. "My analysis"
I think Jake had good intentions at the beginning of this season. His major mistake was doing what he said he always does: getting into a sexually charged relationship that will cool off around the one-year mark. Tenley wasn't his normal relationship, Vienna is, no matter how "different" he thinks she is from past relationships.

What was crystal clear to me was that Jake felt an emotional connection with Tenley. The "thing" he was missing from his relationship with her was what he was getting from Vienna: hot and passionate sex. If he were only in a relationship with Tenley, then he likely would have made the emotional AND sexual connection with her. As it was, he never had a chance to make that connection because the need was being satisfied elsewhere. It speaks both to the artificiality of the show, as well as to Jake's immaturity.

Jake's mom and sisters-in-law had the right first impression of Vienna. If her pattern in life has been to alienate other women, how is this scenario going to be any different? I believe she loves Jake as much as a self-centered, 23-yr-old princess can love someone besides herself.

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67. "RE: My analysis"
An excellent analysis.


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69. "RE: My analysis"
I agree, even though I only watched the finale.

I do think the situation surrounding the show can make it very hard for someone to develop all areas of a relationship with every person in that short a period of time.

So people get one or two parts of the relationship that is most natural with that person and get the other needs filled elsewhere. No person is ever all things for their partner, but if you can focus on one person you can spend the time to round out the relationship, or find out that you can't.

I think that can be part of why the relationships don't tend to last, after the show you have to try to see if all areas of the relationship will work now you don't have other people filling every need you may have. Especially once you are back in your boring lives rather than being whisked away on romantic dates you'll probably never be able to do on any sort of regular basis.

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58. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
On a side note here I forgot to add that I did get enjoyment out of the look on Vienna's face when Jake said something about the first time you get to propose you will never get it back LOL.... uh dummy you are only supposed to propose once that is the whole point.
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64. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
I can't believe Ali was picked. She was mean spirited and a back stabber. I know she apologized on TV about how she acted, but she did it only for the show and to become possibly the next Batchlorette. I will not watch the show with her on it. Was I the only one that saw how she was the leader in putting down Vienna? The evil looks on her face when she talked about her and they want to give her a chance at love and become a celebrity?
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65. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Ali is a sweet girl. My Uncle Steve is a cameraman on the show, and he said she was the nicest, sweetest girl there.

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71. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Uncle Camerman?

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68. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
Well Dad when you raise your daughter to be a spoiled princess that is not that attractive, but purchased a nice breast enhancement, she has no personality. She walks around with a sense of entitlement that she has not earned
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66. "RE: The Bachelor: OTWOL--Season Finale & ATR"
This was an intense finale. I was hoping for Tenley...oh well. I loved reading all the recaps. I wouldn't have blamed Tenley for doing this....

"Maybe the biggest surprise was that — when Jake slow-danced with Vienna at the very end of the "After the Final Rose" special — Tenley didn't come running onstage and shove Vienna away from her Favorite Dance Partner Ever. Because you know it must have been killing Tenley for two people to get to showcase their dancing prowess and for her to not be one of them."
from www.thebachelorshow.com

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70. "Vienna's Appearance"
Is it me, or did she look really different last night than she did on the show? (And not really for the better)


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72. "RE: Vienna's Appearance"
Reality Steve thinks she's been working out and losing weight. (She did look thinner, but not in a good way.) Her roots were gone, which helped her image as a bottle blonde from the trailer park. Like my DW said, "Maybe Jake really loves her, b/c she was one of the least attractive of the 25."

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73. "RE: Vienna's Appearance"
I think Jake likes to be the best looking one in the relationship. The good looking women seemed to intimidate him. He somehow feels more in charge when his girlfriend is not as threatening.
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74. "Nose job?"
There's also talk over on Jokers that she got a nose job between the finale and ATR.

Here's the link with photos.

http://www.thebachelorshow.com/article/omg-face-vienna-new-nose-job

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76. "RE: Nose job?"
Good pictures.

I think on ATR, she looked or tried to look more serious/grown up/mature.

Jake said to his family (to his mom) that she was somewhat immature. I haven't watched all of either show yet, but I saw a Vienna on ATR who was not "playful." Before, she was more outgoing, fun, didn't care what she said, etc. On ATR, I thought she was definitely more low-key, quiet, serious - like she was trying to show us a completely different Vienna.


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