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"Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You Lurking??"
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Welcome Al |
spyguy13 |
08-25-02 |
1 |
RE: Welcome Al |
nymole1 |
08-25-02 |
2 |
Al as the Mole |
trigirl |
08-26-02 |
3 |
RE: Al as the Mole |
etownheather |
08-26-02 |
4 |
RE: Al as the Mole |
SurvivorBlows |
08-26-02 |
6 |
RE: Al as the Mole |
etownheather |
08-26-02 |
10 |
RE: Al as the Mole |
SurvivorBlows |
08-26-02 |
23 |
RE: Al as the Mole |
etownheather |
08-27-02 |
37 |
Howdy Heather... |
Femme |
08-26-02 |
16 |
RE: Howdy Heather... |
etownheather |
08-26-02 |
20 |
RE: Howdy Heather... |
diamond |
08-27-02 |
25 |
To Al and Heather |
AyaK |
08-26-02 |
5 |
RE: To Al and Heather |
SurvivorBlows |
08-26-02 |
8 |
2001 and 2002 Blowies |
AyaK |
08-26-02 |
22 |
RE: To Al and Heather |
SurvivorBlows |
08-26-02 |
9 |
RE: To Al and Heather |
etownheather |
08-26-02 |
12 |
RE: To Al and Heather |
SurvivorBlows |
08-26-02 |
24 |
RE: To Al and Heather |
etownheather |
08-26-02 |
11 |
My Question for Heather and Al |
spyguy13 |
08-27-02 |
30 |
To Al and Heather from Bucky |
Bucky Katt |
08-26-02 |
7 |
RE: To Al and Heather from Bucky |
etownheather |
08-26-02 |
13 |
RE: To Al and Heather from Bucky |
SurvivingMole |
08-26-02 |
14 |
RE: To Al and Heather from Bucky |
SurvivorBlows |
08-26-02 |
18 |
RE: To Al and Heather from Bucky |
Bucky Katt |
08-26-02 |
15 |
A question for Heather |
someguy |
08-26-02 |
17 |
See above |
AyaK |
08-26-02 |
19 |
Hi Heather :) |
curious |
08-26-02 |
21 |
Heather Forgive Us our Trespasses! |
Red Lady |
08-27-02 |
26 |
RE: Heather Forgive Us our Trespass... |
SurvivorBlows |
08-27-02 |
27 |
Did I miss Heather??? |
Canada Girl |
08-27-02 |
28 |
RE: Did I miss Heather??? |
SurvivorBlows |
08-27-02 |
29 |
Thanks Webby! |
Canada Girl |
08-27-02 |
39 |
Welcome Al, Heather, GMBott, and ot... |
TheBoredGuy |
08-27-02 |
31 |
Sycophants! |
cyclehausen |
08-27-02 |
32 |
All right! |
AyaK |
08-27-02 |
34 |
RE: All right! |
etownheather |
08-27-02 |
38 |
RE: All right! |
samiam |
08-27-02 |
51 |
Welcome |
MakeItStop |
08-27-02 |
33 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
kyngsladye |
08-27-02 |
35 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
GnomeHome |
08-27-02 |
36 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
nymole1 |
08-27-02 |
58 |
I lurk therefore I am |
Darwin |
08-27-02 |
40 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
etownheather |
08-27-02 |
43 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
GnomeHome |
08-27-02 |
44 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
nymole1 |
08-27-02 |
54 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
Darwin |
08-28-02 |
69 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
DreamingKW |
08-27-02 |
45 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
etownheather |
08-27-02 |
46 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
nymole1 |
08-27-02 |
53 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
Darwin |
08-28-02 |
68 |
Welcome, Darwin |
AyaK |
08-27-02 |
48 |
RE: Welcome, Darwin |
NJMoleFan |
08-27-02 |
50 |
RE: Welcome, Darwin |
Darwin |
08-28-02 |
70 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
SurvivorBlows |
08-27-02 |
49 |
The cancellation |
AyaK |
08-27-02 |
52 |
RE: I lurk therefore I am |
Darwin |
08-28-02 |
75 |
Waving to the Molerons |
Bebo |
08-27-02 |
41 |
RE: Waving to the Molerons |
Ianm1225 |
08-27-02 |
42 |
Heya! Some questions for the playe... |
NJMoleFan |
08-27-02 |
47 |
RE: Heya! Some questions for the p... |
nymole1 |
08-27-02 |
55 |
RE: Heya! Some questions for the p... |
cyclehausen |
08-27-02 |
57 |
RE: Heya! Some questions for the p... |
SurvivorBlows |
08-27-02 |
61 |
RE: Heya! Some questions for the p... |
NJMoleFan |
08-27-02 |
59 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
kyngsladye |
08-27-02 |
56 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
Darwin |
08-28-02 |
77 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
kyngsladye |
08-28-02 |
83 |
My questions for Al, Heather, and D... |
spyguy13 |
08-27-02 |
60 |
RE: My questions for Al, Heather, a... |
Darwin |
08-28-02 |
78 |
RE: My questions for Al, Heather, a... |
psileste |
08-28-02 |
85 |
Some questions |
Jims02 |
08-27-02 |
62 |
RE: Some questions |
Bert |
08-28-02 |
64 |
RE: Some questions |
etownheather |
08-28-02 |
71 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
mikey |
08-28-02 |
63 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
cyclehausen |
08-28-02 |
65 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
SurvivorBlows |
08-28-02 |
66 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
etownheather |
08-28-02 |
74 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
tml4life85 |
08-28-02 |
67 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
Darwin |
08-28-02 |
80 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
etownheather |
08-28-02 |
72 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
etownheather |
08-28-02 |
73 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
Darwin |
08-28-02 |
79 |
You naughty contestants |
NJMoleFan |
08-28-02 |
76 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
Ronnet |
08-28-02 |
81 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
performanz |
08-28-02 |
82 |
RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You L... |
Darwin |
08-28-02 |
84 |
If The Mole was like Survivor |
spyguy13 |
08-30-02 |
86 |
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nymole1 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-25-02, 09:13 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Welcome Al" |
Hi Spyguy13! We do keep in touch through e-mail and sometimes see each other. None of us ever saw any of the hidden clues as they were intended to be inserted during production for the viewers. Bill was a great mole. Although many of you picked up on the clues from home, we were not able to stop and review tape like you guys could. Lots of players were screwing up so that made it seem like everyone (but me it appears) could have been the mole.
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-26-02, 01:25 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Al as the Mole" |
Well hello everyone... I thought I'd finally reveal myself! Yes, yes...I admit - I have been lurking throughout the season! (So have the rest of the players in case the won't admit it...)
Since Al made an appearance...I thought I might as well come by and say hello. I'm so glad you all enjoyed the show as much as we did. Take Care! Heather
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-26-02, 03:25 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Al as the Mole" |
First let me say hello to Heather, Al, and who ever else won't admit they are out there.Secondly I figured I just let all the doubting folks out there know that etownheather truly is Heather (down slobbering fanboys... down.) Maybe at some point now that all these cast and crew folks are here someone can finally confirm once and for all how much $$$ the Mole gets (Bill, are you there? ) I do have one question for Heather -- now that all these months have passed, is the idea of Dorothy out spending all your $$$ gotten any easier to come to terms with? I didn't think so, but I figured it was worth asking... btw, congrats on pulling it together before exiting the locked door and coming across as such a good sport about the whole thing (and also not lunging at Anderson as he repeatedly rubbed salt in the open wound -- although now that I think about it, I can't remember how much of that was done live during the reunion and how much might have been post-filming production.) -SB
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-26-02, 04:47 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Al as the Mole" |
Ha...Well, I'll say this - Dorothy isn't spending all of my money because none of us have received any money! But seriously...it was even harder to realize just what I came so close to when I watched the reunion on TV. Mainly because, when we first filmed the reunion in October - the show had already been pulled, and no one was really sure that the show would ever actually air. (And if it hadn't....no one would gotten ANYTHING!) So...I obviously had a tough time with the "what-ifs" and the 20/20 hindsight in October...but it was ever worse a few weeks ago! Regardless...I couldn't be happier for Dorothy - it helps that she is an extremely sensible and smart girl - only good can come out of that money for her (no buying fancy jewelry or fast cars for that girl!)Thank you SB, for your comments about pulling it together while filming the reunion. That was a very strange thing! I could hear everyone cheering for DOrothy...and then for Bill...and I knew I was next to walk out. Those 10 seconds were the longest I've ever experienced! But I managed to shove my disappointment aside. It was just a game, afterall. (You can all shout right about now..."Ya right!") And about Anderson rubbing it in...I was actually very happy that they *did* reveal how close I was. Especially after reading most posts that Dorothy knew it was Bill all along...and I just lucked into a coalition with her. And that I wasn't smart enough to get that far, Etc. It was my chance to prove I was there on my own accord ! For the record...I had NO idea that Dorothy was on the wrong track until the Reunion. I would never have pulled her into a coalition unless I was 100% sure in my mind that she thought it was Bill. (Doh!) But I'll tell you this...it sure made one hell of a storyline for the producers, right? Ha ha...
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-26-02, 11:43 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Al as the Mole" |
>experienced! But I managed to shove my disappointment aside. It >was just a game, afterall. (You can all shout right >about now..."Ya right!") ...just keep saying that a few thousand more times and maybe you'll feel better >And about Anderson rubbing it in...I was actually very happy that >they *did* reveal how close I was. Especially after reading >most posts that Dorothy knew it was Bill all along...and >I just lucked into a coalition with her. And that >I wasn't smart enough to get that far, Etc. It >was my chance to prove I was there on my >own accord ! Hey, just so we're clear, I was calling *ROB* the clueless male bimbo, not you (and from what I can tell, he was pretty clueless until his ouster in Ep5.) Ayak was the one calling you "the male version of Heather" (sorry AK, this is what happens when your practically always right -- your failures get noticed) Besides, after Ep5 I pretty much gave up on who seemed to be clueness and adopted the Screen Time Theory -- which did work for the first next couple of episodes... Myra, Elavia... then my ill-advised Bribs fixation (no, not in that way folks) began and as a result my track record was derailed for the next several weeks. Of course then I picked Dorothy to go so that shows you what I know Actually, looking back, I don't think I ever picked yourself or Al to be booted... but I will certainly say that I didn't think you'd get to the Final Three (and come on, you have to admit that having your alliance-mate KATIE booted had to be a pretty big clue halfway through the game that you had previously been entirely on the wrong track.) >For the record...I had NO idea that >Dorothy was on the wrong track until the Reunion. I >would never have pulled her into a coalition unless I >was 100% sure in my mind that she thought it >was Bill. (Doh!) >But I'll tell you this...it sure made one hell of a >storyline for the producers, right? >Ha ha... Ya, and Anderson seemed to also have too much fun with it... speaking of funny laughs that we'd like to live down, did any of the cast/crew happen to read our Deep Mole "scoop?" ...that one must have caused a laugh or two amount those in the know (although I still think it's fishy that Lisa and the Mole 1's Kathryn travelled in the same circles and both just happened to end up on the show.) -SB
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 02:59 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: Al as the Mole" |
Oh... i didn't mean THIS board in particular...I just meant on the boards in general...no matter though. Nothing is taken personally! (well, maybe just a little...)
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Femme 3621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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08-26-02, 06:13 PM (EST)
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16. "Howdy Heather..." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-26-02 AT 06:16 PM (EST)Neat! Glad you stopped by. (I can't think of any super enlightened questions to ask you, so I just have a comment... or two... or three; I like to talk a lot!) I have to say that during the reunion, I was shocked that you had been onto Bill so early in the game. I also was terribly disappointed when it was revealed that you really handed the win to Dot. I can't help being a little bummed. Sounds like my rotten luck. I'm glad you went with Mole over BB. You really helped make Mole such a way better season. (Of course, I thought you were the mole for a good while - especially after the Relative Disguise game.) And, the few moments of the show that my husband watched, you would be doing something particularly "moleish". He was also convinced it was you (and still is, in fact.) I'm also shocked that you all are such good sports. (I would be a total head case in your position.) It's cool to see you writing back with the posters and answering some of our questions. And, like Webby, I too admire your ability to "pull it together" and come out of your little room with so much dignity. You rock! Thanks for stopping by! Femme
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diamond 2307 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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08-27-02, 00:54 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Howdy Heather..." |
Hi Heather -You can add me to the growing list of people who think it's awesome that you are posting here, and who pretty much think that, as Femme put it, you rock! Also like Femme, I don't really have any questions, but I have really enjoyed reading your posts. I do have one suggestion, though - if you are indeed planning on sticking around for Mole 3 and 4, please, please sign up to write an episode summary! I, for one, would love to see one from you.
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-26-02, 03:13 PM (EST)
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5. "To Al and Heather" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-26-02 AT 04:35 PM (EST)Welcome. Hope we weren't too harsh on you all in the summaries. After seeing Mole 1, I couldn't believe how much better Mole 2 was. I actually nominated Mole 1 as one of my five picks for the WORST reality show of 2001, but I'll unquestionably nominate Mole 2 as one of the five best from 2002 (which is why the show's original cancellation surprised me so much). I'm not sure whether that's because of more players and episodes, better players, better production, a better mole or what... you all are welcome to think that it relates to better players! Anyway, I have a question: what do you think of the reduction in the number of players and episodes that's been reported for Mole 4? Do you think it will negatively impact play or that it will be a non-factor? Edited due to tense mismatch. (No, that doesn't mean I'm tense!)
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-26-02, 03:43 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: To Al and Heather" |
For the record I never nominated Mole 1 for Worst Show -- I thought there were much more worthy shows, I voted for "Murder In Small Town X," "Chains Of Love," "Lost," "Fear Factor," and "Temptation Island 2" (and even though 'Fear Factor" is a hit, I'll probably vote for it again next year.)I mentioned it in another thread last week, but I really don't like the idea of going back down to nine episodes, I really liked 13 episodes with 14 players, it allowed the viewer to become more "invested" in the story. Plus, I think the increase in cast size from 10 to 14 was a significant contributor to the "open and friendly" atmosphere that folks have commented about re: the Mole 2 cast versus the Mole 1 cast. With only 10 people I think the contestants were naturally more reserved with each other -- just because given the smaller group size they were more apt to immediately view each other as a threat and fearful to open themselves up. ...with 14 players, folks seemed to generally be more open about themselves -- possibly figuring that their "odds" of being executed were that less likely. -SB PS, If anyone wants to learn more about the 2002 reality TV Blowie Awards click below (and to all you Mole contestants out there, apparently heavy campaigning DOES WORK, just ask Kevin and Drew from CBS' The Amazing Race ) http://www.realitytvworld.com/2002blowies/
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-26-02, 09:05 PM (EST)
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22. "2001 and 2002 Blowies" |
Off topic (but most conversations between Webby and I get that way)...I liked TI2, because the players were so sleazy, which is why I wrote 3 summaries for it (only 1 fewer than I wrote for "Mole 2"). My nominations for the five worst (as you know, but the rest of the people reading this don't) were "Murder in Small Town X," "Lost," "Fear Factor," "The Mole," and "Boot Camp" (edging out "Chains of Love" for the last spot). However, since we were the only two who really didn't like "Fear Factor," it didn't get nominated. Best of 2002? Right now, I'm only certain to vote for Survivor: Marquesas and Mole 2. I should add that, as I posted many times before, these shows have far and away the best hosts for the genre: Jiffy and AC.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-26-02, 04:17 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: To Al and Heather" |
>Welcome. Hope we weren't too harsh on you all in >the summaries. Well, apparently the Mole 2 folks seem to understand that some of this comes with the territory -- from Heather's radio interview: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID11/827.shtml Virtually all the players frequent the internet message boards, and especially enjoy it when they are being trashed. (although I don't think anyone should take that to be an invitation ) Actually after just re-reading that interview I do have a couple of more questions: A) Does the Mole and the runner-up really only receive 25K? ...that seems hard to believe, geez, they spend more than that on a single day of filming. I could have sworn that I'd read during Mole 1 that the Mole was getting arounnd $100k -- no wonder why Kathryn took a job with the crew, LOL B) Big Brother 2 -- ouch, say it wasn't so -- glad you had the sense to change your mind. That said, can you give us some examples of the sleazy "bad vibes" that Arnie and crew gave off?
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-26-02, 11:55 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: To Al and Heather" |
>A) I only got $25,000...Bill is under contract not to reveal >what he got, but he said he received about (or >similar amount) what I got (take that as you will). >No...I know for a fact that Jim only got $25,000 >last year...and he made the same comment about the Mole >receiving a similar amount. I agree with you - shoulda >been a Huny...don't you think! $25k is very weak... geez, I think even the winner of every episode of 'Dog Eat Dog' gets that. Oh my heck, even Jeopardy gives more than that away on some individual days... >B) BB2...i know, i know! I actually made a tape for >both that night...ONLY b/c I thought I might as well. >The crazy was..they called me on the same day! And >the audition process was the same wknd...I had an initial >phone interview with BB2 that i did not have to >do with the MOle, hence the bad vibes. They were >basically asking about my sexual history, if I was "promiscuous" >and that they needed to know all my skeletons, in >case the National Enquirer tried to do an expose on >me. I was pretty repulsed by how invasive his questions >were...and much they focused on my sexuality. I decided pretty >quickly that it wasn't for me... Geez, did they even READ the application information and video or just look at the head shot -- long-term boyfriend of what, 4-5 years at that point... Bible luxury item... ya, somehow I think Shannon was a much better fit for that show (even another Texas girl if I remember right) -- although I have a feeling Hardy's toothbrush would have been safer. -SB PS I listened to the WGN interview this afternoon, wow, that was one long interview (and apparently we've been asking many of the same questions here that you already answered in there)
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-26-02, 04:54 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: To Al and Heather" |
Hey...the summaries wouldn't be interesting unless some of us were ripped on, right? Comes with the territory...no hard feelings. I'm actually not sure how I feel about having fewer players. What made the game so difficult is that there were soooo many suspects. And no matter what it looks like on TV...the mental, physical and emotional exhausting Reeeaaaaallly gets to you after 6 weeks. (What some people may not realize is that we are cut off from all communication from the outside world...including radio, tv, music of any kind, newspapers, magazines, loved ones...) So you are either playing the game, or in your room playing cards or reading your book over for the 20th time. I think with a shorter shooting schdule, the new players won't feel that burden as much as we did - which ultimately affected how we played the game. And like one of you said...because there were so many o f us, and such a long shoot time, we ultimately became so much closer than the producers could have ever imagined (I don't think they liked it, actually). Maybe with a smaller group...they think they won't get as close - therefore more conflicts shall arise. Hmmm...after reading my response, I'd say I don't like the decision. Sorry for the long winded response!
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Bucky Katt 3146 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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08-26-02, 03:43 PM (EST)
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7. "To Al and Heather from Bucky" |
Hello to both of you and thanks for stepping out from being a lurker.Just a couple of quick questions for you: 1) Is there anything that happened that you really wished was shown that wasn't? 2) How much have your lives changed over the last few months? Do you get stopped by people who want to talk to you? Oh and one more thing. Bucky has sort of a thing for brunettes and was wondering if Heather could give him a little scratch behind the ear. Aloof...bizarre...sarcastic...volatile...he is a CAT after all!
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SurvivingMole 45 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-26-02, 05:52 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: To Al and Heather from Bucky" |
Etownheather, Welcome and I am glad that you have finally revealed yourself. Anyhow, I want to send you a private email so could you post your email address? If you choose not to, I totally understand and will respect that. Afterall, I am no tv star! laughs* Thanks for making the show what it was- Best Regards, SurvivingMole
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-26-02, 06:19 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: To Al and Heather from Bucky" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-26-02 AT 07:59 PM (EST)>Etownheather, >Welcome and I am glad that >you have finally revealed yourself. > Anyhow, I want to >send you a private email >so could you post your >email address? SurvivingMole, unless a message board poster opts to disable it, every poster has the ability to sent a private email to another user (without revealing the true email address of either party) -- that's what the little EMAIL icon next to the date of each posting does. There's also similiar private message (as opposed to email) functionality. Users can disable their email option by changing their profile options on the below link: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=user See the below link for info about all the little icons: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=help&selected=17 -SB
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someguy 24 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-26-02, 06:18 PM (EST)
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17. "A question for Heather" |
Hey Heather, I've read rumors that your engagement with your boyfriend (is his name Mark?) is off and that you guys broke up. Is this true?
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08-26-02, 08:40 PM (EST)
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21. "Hi Heather :)" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-26-02 AT 08:57 PM (EST)Heather, I think it's great that you're taking time to answer all of our questions & talk about the show. Don't worry about long winded answers, I think most of us are completely spellbound by anything you have to say about the show. I don't have a particular question, I just enjoy reading what you have to say. It's already been said, but I'd also like to comment on the way you handled yourself at the end, with dignity & class. I really felt for you & even more so with the way you handled it. I hope to see you around these boards when future Mole shows come around... edited to say - it must have been pretty amusing for you to read the message boards as the show was being aired. Reading everyone's reactions to what happened & reading theories & speculations with your knowledge of what was really going to happen. *waves hi to Heather*
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08-27-02, 10:12 AM (EST)
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32. "Sycophants!" |
What, did the boss just walk in?Seriously, it's good to see an actual cast member posting here. Everyone here knows I'd be lying my ass off, though, if I said Heather and Al were my favorites. I sure wish Katie would pop her head up here. Anyway, Heather, would you mind terribly answering a few questions? (Remember, I never liked you less than Al) - How tough was it to "forget" about the cameras? Even in the very beginning, nobody seemed very put off by them - I'm sure a lot of editing was involved, though. Did a lot of people just gawk at first? - When you take the quizzes, do you have to answer all the questions in order with no opportunity to change answers, or can you kind of navigate among the questions? - Are you allowed to have your journal with you during the quiz? - Did you ever find out your actual score on the final quiz? Did they not say the score because it was so high? - Did everyone hate Patrick as much as we were led to believe? Did everyone love Rob as much as we were led to believe? Thanks for any response, and no hard feelings... I honestly thought I was talking behind your back!
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-27-02, 11:01 AM (EST)
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34. "All right!" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-27-02 AT 02:44 PM (EST)>What, did the boss just walk in? Ah, cycle, it's nice to hear someone else say this! We should be attacking Al and Heather like rabid dogs that haven't eaten fresh meat in a week, right? I'll start ... Naah, you start ... Seriously, as you've found as well, it's hard to be nasty to either of them. Heather seems to have proven her intelligence (NOT that it needed proving, although the early episodes seemed to paint her as sexy but not really too bright -- she didn't get a chance to show off until later) by dumping her boyfriend. I HATE these cheesy TV proposals -- it wasn't even OK when Keith from S2 did it, and every time after that just makes it worse. Even if the recipient of the proposal wanted to say no (and I have no idea about that), how could she say it to someone she likes with such a huge audience AND the TV cameras watching her? Al always seemed to be a nice guy, and it's hard to say unkind things to someone who was so visibly embarrassed at the finale by the confessional clip of him fingering Elavia and not Bill ...
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 03:00 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: All right!" |
Here's a little secret...I wasn't exactly thrilled about the on-air cheesy proposal either!
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GnomeHome 12 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 12:48 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You Lurking??" |
Questions for Heather and Al:What happens before each execution that wasn't shown on TV? When do you say your goodbyes since it appears you can't say anything after you're executed? Were you able to pick up any information or figure anything out based on who was executed? Heather was able to figure out Bill was the Mole based on Katie's execution. Were either of you able to eliminate other suspects in a similar manner? (For example was Patrick gunning for Bribs, thus taking Bribs out of your list of suspects?) Did you learn anything new about the game or your fellow players when you got together in Las Vegas? Was anything going on between Bob and Ali? Heather, if you thought breaking the gnome might give you an exemption why didn't you do it? Al, should Bobby Valentine be fired?
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nymole1 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 09:32 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You Lurking??" |
More answers: 1-Before each execution, we pretty much stay in the hotel. We give interviews with the producers, go to dinner, take the quiz and sweat it out-at least I did,right Heather? When the executed player leaves, there are no goodbyes exchanged. this is to prevent him/her from telling anyone their strategy on the quiz,thereby helping out a fellow player. 2- I wasn't able to gain anything from any execution as I did not really have a coalition with anyone. Darwin, you know our coalition lasted bout 5 minutes. 3- Bobby Valentine will not and should not be fired. The team turnover was something like 55% and will need time,at least one year,to figure out how to play as a team. besides, if he goes Steve Phillips also has to go as they are now joined at the hip with this effort.
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Darwin 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 05:50 PM (EST)
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40. "I lurk therefore I am" |
Oh my God! Heather, you are the coolest! You are so pretty! I almost threw up when you lost! I wore black for days and ripped down all my posters of Anderson! You're the best. Uh, I mean...Allo everybody. I see Heather and Al have already let you guys in on lots of good shi*...er, stuff, so count me in too. Darwin PS - Bribs is sooooooo dreamy -- like a gravy dreamboat. Did you guys ever make out?
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GnomeHome 12 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 06:57 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: I lurk therefore I am" |
Why were those beds pushed so closely together?
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nymole1 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 09:14 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: I lurk therefore I am" |
The heat didn't work...actually we heard a wild boar outside and were afraid...the truth is we became VERY close..
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 07:57 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: I lurk therefore I am" |
Ha ha..thanks Dreaming! I really appreciate that! It's great to be able to show more than the edited version of myself... Thanks for letting me play with all of you! H
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nymole1 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 09:12 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: I lurk therefore I am" |
I think only you were wondering that,my friend... and I don't kiss and tell..
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-27-02, 08:14 PM (EST)
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48. "Welcome, Darwin" |
Nice to see you emerge from the shadows...
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Darwin 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-28-02, 11:58 AM (EST)
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70. "RE: Welcome, Darwin" |
Nice. Thanks Tom.Al and I are very similar people. We tend to confront you when you've pissed us off. I think it's always better to have it out right away than let it fester. It's funny because I could tell he was fuming when we left for Think of Sink. But it turns out that he got to play the jail game which was much more fun. It was one of the few games that was a "true" Mole game. We argued and it was over. DC PS - Oh yeah. Your little sister has excellent taste.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-27-02, 08:17 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: I lurk therefore I am" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-27-02 AT 09:15 PM (EST)Wow, another one huh... geez, at this point it may just be easier to say WHO'S NOT LURKING. Although I am noticing a pattern here... none of the folks that I think I ever picked to be booted on a given week have shown up yet, humm... then again, given that he had his own rob-nelson.com site, I'm sure at least Rob is out there somewhere. ...and why am I getting the feeling that over the past year you folks probably had as much fun at our expense as we did at yours? Woops... I better get back to addressing Darwin specifically before he feels neglected and gets in a titzy... Hiya Darwin... welcome aboard... OK here goes (and remember I already came clean yesterday that I believed yourself, Bill, and Al were the most entertaining of the male players so there's no sycophant here) 1) Explain again why the heck you were so convinced Bill wasn't the Mole? 2) Didn't you think it was JUST A LITTLE WEIRD to put Rob in that Ep1 bike challenge?? 3) Explain how come you didn't think it was strange that your allies just happened to be dropping like flies? 4) What was the deal with shaving that 'stache off halfway through the filming -- some of us viewers spent the first few minutes asking "where'd Darwin go?" 5) What'd you think when you were made the initial "co-leader?" Did you look at it as a positive or a negative? Did the producers have any hand in Bill being the other co-leader? 6) How'd you end up on the Mole? ...did you try out for any other shows along the way? 7) What were your thoughts when the show was pulled? And how weird was it filming that reunion show after the show had already been pulled? 8) No matter how much footage they filmed during the reunion, you had to have a good idea that they were going to be putting your deduction skills in a less than stellar light -- was there ever some small part of you hoping that the show wouldn't come back? Oh, and PS to any of you -- if someone runs into Al, ask him if when he gets a chance can he can come back and answer some of these questions of his that are starting to pile up around here -SB EDITED TO FIX TYPOS
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-27-02, 09:11 PM (EST)
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52. "The cancellation" |
>7) What were your thoughts when the show was pulled? >And how weird was it filming that reunion show after >the show had already been pulled? You know, I'm interested in this answer too, from all of you. From my perspective, the whole fall schedule seemed almost destined to make this show fail. Webby and I were very enthusiastic about its return, even though I hadn't liked the first Mole very much -- but the message boards were almost empty before the debut, reflecting both the 9/11 war preoccupation and the lack of pre-launch publicity by ABC. In E2, two things became obvious: this show was going to be a LOT better than Mole 1, and no one was watching it. (P.S. That's partially why my E2 summary was so venemous toward the Molerons -- I wanted to see if anyone at all was reading, since ABC had already announced that Mole 2 would be canceled if the ratings didn't improve! Oh, it was also obvious in E2 that Bill was the mole -- but we had the advantage of selective editing by the producers -- you all didn't.) If I was frustrated, I can't imagine how you all felt about it. At least I had an outlet -- I could trash Michael Eisner, as I did in the "E3 revisited" summary. But you all had to keep quiet for a year....
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Darwin 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-28-02, 12:28 PM (EST)
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75. "RE: I lurk therefore I am" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-28-02 AT 12:32 PM (EST)Great balls of fire, man! How long have all those questions been piling up in that brain of yours? Sheesh. My fingers are getting sore just thinking about all the typing I'm going to have to do. 1) Explain again why the heck you were so convinced Bill wasn't the Mole? Okay. Hopefully this will be the last time answering this one. The first day I felt like I had to eliminate at least three people who didn't look very suspicious to me. I eliminated Bill, Al and Katie. It was all gut. After doing that, my strategy for taking the quiz was to be able to eliminate as many people from my list of suspects as I could. I did this by avoiding answering any of the quiz questions using those three people. I also took a very long time taking the quiz. I figured that if I answered Bill (for example) on zero questions for the first quiz and took the longest to take it, it would mean that in a tie, I would be the first to leave. Bob left, so I assumed that I could eliminate those players that received no answers on my quiz. 2) Didn't you think it was JUST A LITTLE WEIRD to put Rob in that Ep1 bike challenge?? I didn't. We weren't told what to ask the rest of the players before the first game. Anderson just said to gather information. We were packing our backpacks and I (and a lot of other people) thought the game would have to do with hiking or camping. So, I asked questions about that stuff. I ask you: How many grown men do you know who can't ride a bike? I didn't hear Rob tell Bill that he wasn't good at it. So, I just picked all the guys to compete in the first game. And we won, so there. :-P 3) Explain how come you didn't think it was strange that your allies just happened to be dropping like flies? Good question. Anderson was a little unfair when he said that I didn't make the connection between them being executed and it being my fault. The game is full of lies and deceit. I had no idea if my coalition mates were telling me the truth with regard to their test-taking strategy. Also, they may have been screwing up the answers accidentally. And since we never decided on one person with which to answer every test question, they may have been answering different people for different suspects. We usually just decided who we thought was most suspicious and tried to get them in as many answers to the quiz as we could. I had no idea what they actually did. 4) What was the deal with shaving that 'stache off halfway through the filming -- some of us viewers spent the first few minutes asking "where'd Darwin go?" I was bored of it. No big meaning behind it. The producers flipped out when they saw that I did it though. They spent a lot of time muttering to themselves about me ruining their "continuity". Anderson said it made me look younger. And he knows everything because he's on TV. 5) What'd you think when you were made the initial "co-leader?" Did you look at it as a positive or a negative? Did the producers have any hand in Bill being the other co-leader? I looked at it as a negative, although it should have been a positive. I ended up getting lots of background information on Bill since we spent the day isolated from the other players. We talked a lot. He told me that his mother was very ill and I thought he might leave if something happened to her. I was convinced the producers wouldn't have chosen someone to be the mole if there was a chance they would leave. Anyway, I actually wanted to be with the group because they were interacting and learning all sorts of things about each other. I felt I was at a disadvantage even though, in actuality, I was at a huge advantage. But that's what made me such a good player. (Yeah, that makes no sense.) 6) How'd you end up on the Mole? ...did you try out for any other shows along the way? It's weird. I originally wanted to be on Survivor. A friend of mine helped me to film this intricate tape on why I would make the perfect survivor since I could survive in NYC. We filmed my camp in Central Park, I got mail that consisted of a leaf in my mail box, I brough an answering machine as my luxury item, I got sick of the chicken fried rice rations, I lost a challenge consisting of eating NY foods like sushi with no soy sauce, a hot dog w/no mustard, a bagel w/cream cheese with no lox, etc. I decided to send in a tape to The Mole as an after thought. In it, I acted like a bumbling lawyer in my office and was just silly the whole time. The Mole called back. Survivor blew me off. I guess the secret is to just be who you are on the tape you submit. 7) What were your thoughts when the show was pulled? And how weird was it filming that reunion show after the show had already been pulled? I wasn't surprised that it was pulled. ABC put it in the worst possible time slot for our demo and didn't promote it at all. We just didn't understand what they were thinking. I think at one point we were told that they were pulling it because they believed in it, which was true. They knew it should have done better. At the reunion, we got to see all the episodes and what a great job they did editing it, so we believed them when they said they liked it. So, it wasn't too weird filming the reunion show since we were convinced it was coming back. Why pour more money into a show that doesn't have a chance to come back by flying us all out to LA, you know? At one point during the first airing of those three episodes, we were told that they did a poll of people who considered themselves fans of the first show asking them about it and something like 66% of them responded that they didn't even know it was on. 8) No matter how much footage they filmed during the reunion, you had to have a good idea that they were going to be putting your deduction skills in a less than stellar light -- was there ever some small part of you hoping that the show wouldn't come back? I actually thought it was a little unfair. If Bob hadn't taken longer than me taking the quiz (and there was such a small chance of that happening since I took so long), I would have either have been gone or would have been right about the people I eliminated. But you know what? It was so funny and easy to make me look like a dumbass that I appreciated it for what it was. Bribs is still pissed at me for steering him away from Bill. Doh! DC
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08-27-02, 06:14 PM (EST)
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41. "Waving to the Molerons" |
Hi! Gotta pull my IceCat special logo out one more time as I say hello to Al, Heather, the guy from the crew, and the rest of you lurking out there. I'm enjoying reading the answers to all the questions being posed. I just want to say thanks for being good sports amidst all of the playful trashing going on here. One of the reasons I got so into The Mole was because I thought the contestants were far classier than the other shows. And no, I'm not just saying that to suck up - anyone who's seen my posts knows I don't do that! Evil, rude, snotty, and proud of it!
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08-27-02, 06:19 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Waving to the Molerons" |
Hi Al and Heather! I just wanted to say that you two did a great job. It couldn't have been easy getting as far as you did in this game! I just want to know if there's any advice that you can offer to those of us who want to audition for the next show (if there is one!). Any good ideas on how to get picked??? Thanks! Luv you guys!
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08-27-02, 08:08 PM (EST)
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47. "Heya! Some questions for the players..." |
Hey! Great to see television personalities like yourselves spending time with the show's fans! It really adds to the atmosphere of the show, showing us you're real people and not actors and actresses. Well at least not yet Anywho, here's some things I was wondering about.1.) Did you ever lie about your personnal information to other players during the game to cause confusion? 2.) Were the cameras with you all day/night 24/7 or just when there were game elements occuring? 3.) Did Anderson know who the Mole was and could you socialize with him during the shooting? 4.) Heather, when you touched the bike, how much of a competitive advantage did it give you? 5.) Al, how bad do you get tortured with Tiny Bubbles by friends? I put the song on repeat for 5 hours with some friends and I know they were freaking out after awhile! Thanks for doing a great job on the show... definately a cult favorite in my town! We had a huge group for a couple mole parties to view the eps, we even had a mole 2 cake on the finale night! Oh and Al... if you're ever looking for an online fantasy baseball league, I run a great one
Tom
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nymole1 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-27-02, 09:24 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Heya! Some questions for the players..." |
Answers: 1-I never lied about about anything regarding myself.We had to answer truthfully any questions that appeared on our application that were asked 2-The camaras and mics were always around. Everywhere except the bathroom in the hotels we stayed in 3-AC does not know who the mole is and sometimes we could all just talk with him and each other. For example, when Bill,Myra and Katie went off to make pizza, the mountain bike game was not really taking place. It was edited to look that way. In fact, the remaining players and Andersen went to a restaurant and waited for that game to end. 4- I almost never hear the end of tiny bubbles from anyone but that's cool. I'm glad so many took so much pleasure in watching me suffer.
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Jims02 7328 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-27-02, 10:25 PM (EST)
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62. "Some questions" |
Okay, I hope these questions weren't asked already...To anyone: -Were there any really memorable moments that didn't make it on air? In an interview, Elavia mentioned spitting gum into Anderson's hand, so I was wondering about any other good anecdotes. -Did you find yourself laughing at the many crazy theories that YOU were the Mole? I've gotta admit that I thought it was Darwin for a LONG time, and posted all sorts of "clues" -What were your favorite challenges during the Mole? -Finally, how nerve racking were the executions? I would imagine they were quite scary. Did you have a good idea that it was your night, before you got the red screen? (No, Darwin, we know this question's not for you... I think you saw it coming after Bribs' turned green) Keeping my singature up one more time!!! ----------------------------------- Quotes of the week: 1. "Al, do you think you could move just a little?"-Myra 2. "Ewww... Patrick, no... I don't want to see that."-Heather 3. "I really hope Darwin doesn't realize I have a coalition with Dorothy, or... that could be bad."-Lisa 4. "Gas station attendants... They no NOTHING about flat tires... Let's ask these tourists!"-Darwin 5. "I swear, Rob, if this freaks me out I'm gonna punch you."-Anderson 6. "Those hills are a b!tch."-Anderson 7. "Um, thanks guys for not liking me!" (waves the $ at them)-Elavia 8. "They do look like piercing blue eyes, Heather, but I don't get it. He's totally making out with (that girl)."- Bribs 9. "I was a little surprised when Anderson came into my room in a suit. He usually just comes into my room in his pajamas, just his bottoms usually."-Darwin 10. "Man, I'm screwed."-Dorothy 11. (creepily) "Tiny bubbles... In my wine... Makes me happy."-Anderson 12. "I'll tell ya... I don't understand a thing, but I enjoy riding!!! " -BillMole Scoreboard Was The Mole: 1 Nailed The Mole: 1
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-28-02, 12:08 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: Some questions" |
Hi There! Sorry it's taken so long to get through these questions...-Were there any really memorable moments that didn't make it on air? In an interview, Elavia mentioned spitting gum into Anderson's hand, so I was wondering about any other good anecdotes. There were soooo many ! One funny thing we used to do - we'd pretend we'd wind Dorothy's back up , like a toy, and then she'd go off and do all these funny movements/dances/jumps...and just when she was at the peak of hilarious, she'd "run out of batteries" and we'd wind her up again. Well, one particular time in Florence, I was running over to wind her up again and I ran smack dab into an Italian priest! Almost knocked me on the ground - it was quite embarrassing...but hilarious! I'm sure he was praying to himself, "God help those idiotic Americans!" -Did you find yourself laughing at the many crazy theories that YOU were the Mole? I've gotta admit that I thought it was Darwin for a LONG time, and posted all sorts of "clues" Oh YES! There were so many. But I was very surprised at how many thought I was the MOle. I especially enjoyed the Kathryn comparisons...some people thought we were actually related. -What were your favorite challenges during the Mole? Mine were the Jail game and the Evader game! (The evader game, more in hindsight...once I knew i didn't need the exemption!) -Finally, how nerve racking were the executions? I would imagine they were quite scary. Did you have a good idea that it was your night, before you got the red screen? They were horrendous. THe entire day was such a process...I was lucky enough to be the only "victim" that never had to see a red screen...
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-28-02, 10:28 AM (EST)
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66. "RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You Lurking??" |
I'm sure they'll get to questions when they can (Al popped back in last night) -- remember, they've been through the "Trail of Tears" of reality TV whoredom, except for Dorothy, they all got paid reality TV chump change for this, it got dragged over the course of over a year, most of the country still doesn't have a clue who they are, and to top it all off they still haven't gotten paid! ...therefore I think it's safe to say they have things like their day jobs that they have to deal with, just like the rest of us (well, except for maybe Darwin and Lisa, you know how lawyers are ) Hey, did Bill at least manage to wrangle a "consultant" role for Mole 3 or 4? -SB
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-28-02, 12:12 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You Lurking??" |
Cheers to you SB! it seems you truly understand... As far as I know, Bill hasn't been offered anything, but I'm sure he'll have some sort of role on MOle 3 or 4. That bastard....KIDDING!
He'll do great!
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tml4life85 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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08-28-02, 10:33 AM (EST)
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67. "RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You Lurking??" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-28-02 AT 12:34 PM (EST)I'd just like to welcome all the people from The Mole 2 to the board as it's a pleasure having you here and taking your time out to talk to us. For the longest time I thought that the mole was Bribs because I read on the ABC message boards that CTV, the channel that shows it here in Canada, released this information. Then I see that on Bribs' website that Darwin left a message calling him "moleface". So until Bribs got kicked off I was almost convinced that it was him even though he definetly didn't look like he could be the mole. So that leads to my question to Darwin, what's up with the message on Bribs' website?? I'm not sure if this one has been asked yet but I wanted to know from Heather how bad it was in that last game that you played where you had to find your way to the castle. I was so worried that something was going to happen to you especially after the that weird noise that you heard. Also, how did it feel to know that if you were 12 seconds slower that you would've been executed?? A last comment to Al, I was hoping that you would win during the whole game not only because you were a fun player but because you were a Mets fan! I was quite disappointed when you were executed. What do you think about the Mets this year and any changes they should make for the future. Thanks again for taking time for these questions. Rian
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-28-02, 12:09 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You Lurking??" |
I'm trying, I'm trying! I've sort of lost my place ...
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etownheather 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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08-28-02, 12:10 PM (EST)
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73. "RE: Mole 2 Cast Members: Are You Lurking??" |
No...I never did, although I was tempted!
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spyguy13 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-30-02, 04:10 PM (EST)
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86. "If The Mole was like Survivor" |
This question is for Darwin, Al, and Heather...well and for any other mole 2 contestants...if the mole was like survivor, who would you vote out??...thanx
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