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"Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 7: Houseguest Cleaning - Literally"
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"Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 7: Houseguest Cleaning - Literally" |
They could have used this challenge for Casi a few weeks ago. When we last left off in the ECST, we were in the beginning stages of the Week 7 HOH. Dani has a long wait ahead of her on the sidelines as the houseguests battle it out in the Big Brother Slip & Slide All Bath Challenge.
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08-19-11, 00:04 AM (EST)
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1. "Jeff wins HoH" |
Porsche and Rachel were neck-in-neck for second but way behind Jeff.
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08-19-11, 00:06 AM (EST)
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2. "Aftermath" |
Porsche and Kalia expect to be on the block and are sad. Dani tells them she'll get to play in veto and will take one of them off if she wins. Then Dani goes to suck up to Jeff like everyone else except P and K.
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08-19-11, 02:42 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Double eviction" |
Sounds like the standard issue BB Fast Forward they do one of every season. The HG have been expecting this.
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08-19-11, 07:44 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Double eviction" |
Julie did mention fast forward so we'll have the vote, play for HOH, nominations, play for veto, veto ceremony and another vote all in one hour.
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08-20-11, 02:56 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: Double eviction" |
What michel said is how they'll most likely do it. The second HoH may start on the live show, but will probably finish on the feeds or on BB After Dark.
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31. "RE: Double eviction" |
Yeah, I checked into the spoiler sites and ED's twitter Q&A's and the consensus is what you said. Also the HG seem to be aware of the double eviction, but I'm not clear on how they found that out as the Chenbot did not announce it to them on Thursday night.
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08-21-11, 01:06 AM (EST)
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47. "RE: Double eviction" |
From what I've been reading in the feed reports, the HG have been expecting a double elim at some point, and some of them were guessing that it was this week. Which makes sense, since most BB seasons have had "fast forward" weeks and these HG know their BB history pretty well.
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7. "RE: Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 7: Houseguest Cleaning - Literally" |
Seems like Jeff should nom Dani. That way she can't save both herself and an ally. She could only play for herself. Plus if Dani, Porch and Kalia all play, plus Jeff, less chance for Shelly and Jordan to get a slot.
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08-19-11, 07:46 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 7: Houseguest Cleaning - Literally" |
Absolutely. Porsche and Kalia aren't dangerous. Dani is.
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08-19-11, 08:59 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Dani's Veto Ticket" |
>Does anyone know the terms of
>it? Is it only
>for this week, or would
>it be good for the
>next one?
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>If he puts Dani up, the
>Veto Ticket is moot.
>Dani plays, along with 5
>other people. There's the
>possibility that Kalia & Porsche
>also both play, so then
>there are only 6 playing
>for the Veto, and it's
>50/50. If he doesn't
>put Dani up, she plays
>anyway, but he would have
>at worst 4 playing on
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>>"navy"] Samboobree, brought to life
>by Arkie
You guys are way overcomplicating this. Any way you look at it one of these three go home: Kalia, Porsche or Dani.
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08-19-11, 11:12 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Dani's Veto Ticket" |
One "should" go home.Porsche and Kalia are on the block. Dani plays and wins. She pulls Kalia off. Jeff has to put up Adam, Shelly or Rachel. He's not going to put up Jordan. Jeff & Jordan know Shelly's been lying to the house, but they're pretty sure she's with them. Rachel is a true wild card. I can see Dani flipping Rachel or Shelly if one of other of those two goes up.
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08-20-11, 05:41 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: The Have Nots" |
Dani got a cake yesterday, and BB is going to allow some type of celebration on Sunday.
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08-19-11, 08:42 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Nominations" |
No surprise there. There probably won't be any surprises until POV is decided, and maybe not even then.
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08-20-11, 01:30 PM (EST)
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32. "Nomination math" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-20-11 AT 01:34 PM (EST)There's an interesting side to the mathematical odds when deciding nominations and doing PoV back doors. If Jeff really wants to get rid of Dani, is the best strategy to nominate her first or wait to nominate her after the PoV? ED in his twitters thinks the first strategy of nominating Dani first before the PoV was the best strategy. This Buddy TV guy demonstrates why the math supports the second strategy of waiting to nominate Dani after the PoV. There are some assumptions built in that, but it looks sound.
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08-20-11, 02:06 PM (EST)
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35. "Nomination Psychology is more important" |
ED is right. Absolutely. Why? Because he factors in the game and its players. Crunching numbers isn't how players operate so, even if that guy's numbers are right, the slight statistical advantage of waiting for the backdoor is lost when you consider how players think and react. By not nominating Dani, Jeff just put a doubt in Rachel and Shelley's mind: Does he have a deal with Danielle? Also, Jeff presented himself as an honest player but now he showed his sneaky side. Adam will doubt Jeff's words much more now. But, besides that, the guy makes huge assumptions and forgets some factors:
-The biggest assumption is that Adam would use the veto if he wins it. Danielle could make him envision F3 with her and whoever remains. Hell, even Porsche and Kalia could be convinced they don't need the veto because the other one is going. - Next, the guy makes the additional assumption that all players have equal chances of winning the veto. In any consideration, Dani has to have better odds than Kalia, Adam, Jordan, Shelley and Porsche. - But the biggest mistake that guy makes is that he completely neglects the downfall of Dani not being nominated but still winning the veto and saving one of her allies. If you nominate her, she can only save herself.
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08-20-11, 02:40 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Nomination Psychology is more important" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-20-11 AT 02:43 PM (EST)Good analysis and you raised some points that I had thought about when I posed the question, especially the 'human' side to the game in the way players react. While the math is sound based on certain assumptions, these assumptions, as you clearly showed, are anything but certain. A simple example is whether anyone would 'throw' the PoV (purely human factor) and also who has the best chances of winning it (this could statistically be based on past performances, but there's a too small sample to be reliable). Let's take the most extreme example and say Dani is so good she has a 100% chance of winning PoV (which obviates any 'throws' too). Let's say players A & B are her allies and player C is a floater. If initially nominated with player A, she removes herself and then player B gets the replacement nom. She is safe, but will lose one of her allies A & B. Good for HoH, bad for Dani. Dani loses two supporting votes. If players A & B originally nommed, then she can get her choice of which A or B is saved, and then the HoH has to resort to nomming Player C. Not good for HoH, good for Dani. Dani only loses one supporting vote and has the supporting vote of A or B who she saved. By this logic, then, it is clear that HoH should have initially nominated Dani, with the assumption that Dani has a very high percentage chance of winning PoV.
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08-20-11, 07:20 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: POV winner is..." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-20-11 AT 07:21 PM (EST)Apparently the POV competition was to build a mate for the Zingbot. Jordan was dead last and apparently didn't get one piece assembled. During the competition, the Zingbot said to her: "Do you know why Jeff hasn't asked you to marry him? He knows you're not good with questions." Jeff told Adam and Shelly that the first couple to be eliminated will be D!ck and Dani. They agreed that, if Kalia wins HoH, she'd probably nominate Jeff and Rachel. Adam told Jeff that they have the votes to save him in that scenario, but Adam then told Shelly that this is the week they have to win something. Jordan has been telling Rachel to behave after the veto ceremony. Whether she will is an open question. Dani, perceptive as usual, told Porsche that the other side is "plotting my demise." Both sides seem to agree that there will be fireworks after the veto ceremony.
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08-20-11, 11:54 PM (EST)
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46. "One more thought..." |
There's no question that JeJo are targeting Kalia after Dani. But I wouldn't be surprised if they then boot Adam before Shelly or Porsche, provided they're still getting to call the shots. Jeff is convinced that he has Rachel's vote solidly in his bloc, and Jordan is worried that Adam will emerge as a challenge threat once D&K are gone.
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08-21-11, 02:59 AM (EST)
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48. "RE: One more thought..." |
In other words, they are giving the game to Porsche.
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08-21-11, 03:01 AM (EST)
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49. "RE: POV winner is..." |
Doesn't anyone see that it's dumb for the HOH to veto his own nominations?
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08-21-11, 05:22 AM (EST)
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52. "RE: POV winner is..." |
There's nothing dumb about backdooring Dani. As Jeff said, what if this is our only chance to get rid of her? She's wanted Jeff out since week 2.But Estee is right: production is riding Jeff hard to try to keep Dani in the game. Jeff told Jordan that production told him he should talk to Dani (followed immediately by the feed going off), that he made the same move last time and then a floater took him out (followed immediately by the feed going off), etc. -- but Jeff said he's taking her out no matter what production says (followed immediately by the feed going off). . . . Gee, think they didn't want us to know how hard they'd been pushing Jeff to save Dani? Jeff tells Jordan that he hasn't told Shelly yet that this is a definite plan to take Dani out. He wants to be sure that she doesn't vote to save Dani (even though her vote won't matter, as long as he has Adam's). BTW, Jeff recognizes that Dani knows the game better than JeJo do.
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08-21-11, 12:01 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: POV winner is..." |
Dani is a renom and not a backdoor. She got to play in the POV. Brendan's nom was a backdoor.I am glad Jeff is (so far) sticking to his guns. So, does the DR/production go to plan "B" with a Pandora's box or an activation of the Fortune Teller? With some special power that, *ooo---ahh*, Dani just happens to find? I read on another board that they used the Fortune Teller in the UK... and when it spoke, giving messages to various houseguests, it spoke in the voices of the players, using words/lines the other houseguests had spoken in the DR. Now that's manipulation.
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08-21-11, 06:11 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: POV winner is..." |
>Not since Daniele was already after
>him anyway. That's why you nominate her right away. Porsche was
>more-or-less already on the other
>side and there's a chance
>that Jeff can recruit her
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>but possible). The chances of that decreased by nominating her for nothing.
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08-21-11, 07:31 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: POV winner is..." |
I agree that he should have nom'd Dani at the get-go if he was going to do it, as it made no difference if it was his intent. The only reason I can see not to is that if she won the veto, he would be able to say that he didn't go after her and kept whatever kind of deal he made, but if she didn't win, he could nom her. Whereas if he nommed her and she won veto, that left Jeff with nothing but a failed attempt. I imagine that was Dani's thinking with Brendon. He could have lucked out and played veto and won, and then she could have said she was honoring their deal. Obviously none of these guys feel bound by their word or promises, so it's almost a joke to see them talking deals about future performance in return for protection in the week at hand. Re Porsche -- I did catch a little of Showtime Thursday, tuning in to see who won HOH, and Porsche and Kalia seemed 100% they were going to be on the block, as soon as Jeff won HOH. They seemed to know it would not be Dani up there. Porsche was saying she didn't want to leave without winning a single competition. It couldn't have helped her that she (and Rachel) came in second.
I think that with Dani gone, Porsche will do whatever she can to float back to the other side. Kalia and Porsche are not a force to be reckoned with. They are more the annoying mess on the floor that gets swept out when you clean up after the showdown with the real player (Dani) is over.
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08-21-11, 11:32 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: POV winner is..." |
michel, you may be right, but I have a lower opinion of Porsche than you do.I don't think Porsche will stick together with Kalia once Dani's gone. I think Porsche will float, like the floater she is at heart, over to Jeff's side. I noticed that Porsche did agree that she'd like to not have to pack this week, and so she wouldn't target JeJo if she they take her off and she then won HoH (she says she'd nominate Rachel and Adam or maybe Shelly. Not optimum, but best they can hope for.) JeJo's strategy this week is to keep Jeff close to Porsche. They say that they noticed that Kalia was always the one chasing Dani for friendship, but Dani opted for Porsche. They figure that, as long as they can keep Kalia from winning HOH, they can get rid of Kalia easily next, even though Adam and Shelly would like to take out Rachel next. And they think that, in that circumstance, they could get Porsche to their side, as a potential counter to the Adam-Shelly alliance (which makes them nervous, but they can't do anything about it). Basically, here's how they see the game, and for once, I think they see it clearly: Rachel: on their side, period. No real game.
Dani and Kalia: against them, period. Kalia has no game but might put them both up. Dani has game but will be gone.
Porsche: against them for now, but influenceable. May be a future ally.
Shelly: with them, but DANGEROUS. Will be looking to double-cross them if they give her a chance.
Adam: with them, but a floater at heart. Potentially influenceable. Potentially a challenge threat, especially as numbers shrink. Will follow Shelly to an unpredictable extent. Jeff's choice of next three to go: Dani, Kalia, probably Shelly.
Jordan's choice: Dani, Kalia, Adam.
Both Rachel and Jordan seem to think that they can "turn" Porsche. We'll see. Zingbot: Porsche is a 23-year-old car with dual front airbags.
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08-22-11, 00:03 AM (EST)
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63. "RE: POV winner is..." |
But see, our opinion of Porsche doesn't matter. We don't know what she will do so we can't base strategy on best-case scenario. It's better not to assume someone you put on the block will forgive and forget. Anyway, if they think Porsche is influenceable then treat her right.Another thing they should consider is Shelley's position. With Jeff and Jordan reuniting the 4, Shelley should see the writing on the wall. A Final 3 of Jeff, Jordan and Rachel is the ideal situation for the couple, money in the bank for one of them no matter the F2 combination. Therefore, Shelley has to go goat-hunting and final 4 will be too late because she'd be in a position to win out in order to have a shot at facing the jury. With Danielle on the block against Kalia, Shelley could look at things and figure that she needs Danielle to eliminate Rachel. With Porsche and Adam, Shelley could boot the useless Kalia and save Danielle. That, right there, is another reason why Jeff needed to secure Porsche's vote now, not next week.
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08-22-11, 00:18 AM (EST)
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64. "RE: POV winner is..." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-22-11 AT 00:32 AM (EST)But, see, when looking at Dani's boot, our opinion of Porsche after this week doesn't matter. What matters is what we know about her to date. The idea that Jeff could have secured her vote this week by not nominating her is little more than a pipe dream. BB doesn't give the hamsters enough hallucinogens to induce those kinds of dreams. As far as Shelly goes, Jeff is well aware of the dangers that she presents. That's why he and Jordan worked Adam so hard to secure Adam's vote to boot Dani before they presented it to Shelly as a finished plan. This way, if they lose Shelly's vote, they still get rid of Dani -- and they know not to count on Shelly. In your scenario, if JeJo lose both Adam and Shelly, they're dead, and I don't care what other scenario comes up. They'd always be dead if they lost both Adam and Shelly while Dani was still in the game. That's why Jeff was so focused on getting Dani out. I continue to think that Jeff's way was the better way to do it, since a veto-wielding Dani would have been the next HOH. From Shelly's perspective, I think it makes more sense to boot Dani and then try to make a deal with the new HOH (which might even be yourself) to go after JJR. Saving Dani would be an incredibly short-sighted move on her part, because she can't be better than 3rd in that alliance behind Dani and Porsche, and she has to expect to be 3rd in JeJo's alliance (since everyone but Rachel knows she's the next target for anyone winning HOH except JeJo).
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08-22-11, 08:15 AM (EST)
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65. "RE: POV winner is..." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-22-11 AT 08:19 AM (EST)A pipe dream? All Jeff needed from Porsche is that she vote against Rachel instead of him. That, to me was a very realistic plan. Unfortunately, nominating her made that less likely. The show hasn't shown Jeff being onto Shelley and approaching Adam so I can't comment on that except to say Shelley and Dani (and the DR!) could also work on the floater. There's nothing that Jeff did that prevented Dani from wielding that veto because she had a veto card. You plan on backdooring people to prevent them from even playing veto, leaving them totally defenseless like Brendon was. Not nominating Dani did nothing for Jeff but hurt him. For Shelley, being 3rd in as loose an alliance as Porsche-Dani instead of 4th (not 3rd, no way) with JeJo-Rachel, I don't think she should hesitate one second. Especially since Dani and she could consider each other their perfect goat, having made many more enemies than Porsche who just bored everyone.
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08-22-11, 10:31 AM (EST)
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66. "RE: POV winner is..." |
It's obvious we're not going to agree on this. I think the idea that Porsche would ever side with Jeff over Dani while Dani's still in the game is ludicrous; you seem to believe it was not only possible but likely had Jeff played the veto differently. I'm afraid we'll have to leave it at that.
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08-22-11, 06:34 PM (EST)
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73. "RE: POV winner is..." |
Not side with Jeff over Dani, side with him over Rachel. If Dani had won veto and HOH she would have nominated Rachel and Jeff with very little preference between the two. Posche would then be one of the key votes because Jeff would have Jordan and Shelley while Adam and Posche could be swayed. That's the move that Jeff missed.
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08-22-11, 03:09 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: Veto Ceremony" |
Working the jury vote, perhaps?Found this interesting--from jokers: "Proof that BB has helped Dani...
08/22/11 12:03
This is like the 10th time she's mentioned her friends in production...shame on BB for this manipulation...and I'm glad it hasn't worked unless they press Shelly and Adam hard to change their vote...this is sickening. Dani just said that she told Kalia: "if I go home, both Jeff and Natlie have to quit and production don't (sic) want that." (ed: This was after Shelly asked Dani if her "friends" were in the DR today, so apparently Jeff and Natalie are on the staff.)" So not Jeff as in Jeff in the house, but Jeff on the staff. Why would they have to quit if Dani's evicted? Are they her handlers? Would they have to go to the jury house with her?
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08-22-11, 03:42 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: Veto Ceremony" |
I just saw that on Jokers and couldn't figure it out. I don't trust Shelly & Adam. If they vote to evict Kalia, they can keep Dani and join up with Porsche and Dani and be up 4-3 on J/J/R.The only lock would have been if Jeff had Rachel & Jordan and was the tiebreaker. There is too much time between now and Thursday. Maybe they will think Porsche & Kalia will be weak this week due to being on Slop. I don't know. J/J are STUPID to not be with Shelly all the time.
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08-22-11, 06:43 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: Veto Ceremony" |
Like I wrote somewhere above, Shelley can't go to the F4 with JeJo and Rachel It's suicide for her because Rachel is too much of a goat. Dani is the best tool for Shelley to get rid of Rachel.
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08-24-11, 02:25 AM (EST)
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81. "RE: Veto Ceremony" |
No. What she thinks is that keeping Dani in the game would allow the floaters -- herself and Adam -- to float on, without having to be accountable for their actions, because both sides need them. She really wants to get Rachel, but she has to pretend to be nice to Rachel because JeJo are protecting Rachel. She thinks that, as long as the two sides target each other, she and Adam are safe. But Adam's buying into Jeff's "pick a side" mantra, at least for now. In a measure of her growing desperation, Shelly actually asked Rachel whether she'd be willing to save Dani -- the person that booted Brendon twice. Uh, no. Dani told Kalia and Shelly to nominate Jeff and Rachel next, with Jordan as replacement if needed. Kalia and Shelly said they're desperate to get Rachel out with the FF. We shall see.
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08-24-11, 09:50 AM (EST)
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83. "RE: Veto Ceremony" |
This has felt like the longest period between the Veto meeting and the Eviction ever. Based on what I've seen, Adam does still look to be a lock vote against Dani, but you're correct - Who knows. I think Shelly has gone from playing the best game to playing the worst. Honestly, I can't really stand to watch her anymore. Especially all of her preaching about lying.
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings
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08-22-11, 09:33 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: Veto Ceremony" |
>J/J should be with Shelly and Adam both as much as
>possible, in case one defects to D/P. They only need
>one of S/A to be sure Dani goes.And that's why Jeff has focused on Adam so much this week. He can count too. He's spent as much time talking game with Adam in the past few days as he's spent talking game from the start of BB13 until this week. It's been clear all week that Jeff doesn't trust Shelly. Even Helen Keller would have noticed. As I posted above, Jeff's choice would be for Shelly to go after Kalia, keeping Porsche. Normally, if you have two close female allies, you'd use them to break up the Dani-Shelly conversations. But Jeff mostly needs Rachel to stay away from Shelly, and he's had to use Jordan to keep Rachel under control instead of schmooze Shelly (or even Porsche). Really, the only way JeJoRa can be sure of all surviving the Fast Forward on Thursday is if Jordan or Rachel win HOH, in which case either Kalia or Shelly will go.
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08-25-11, 07:28 AM (EST)
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95. "RE: Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 7: Houseguest Cleaning - Literally" |
It's interesting how much gameplay won't be shown on CBS this week due to the DE. Dani and Kalia crying ... Porsche telling Dani that the two of them should do Amazing Race ... and especially Shelly's all-out attempts to save Dani.
JeJo are afraid that if KPS win HOH, they're going up, because they figure that's what Dani told KPS (they're right, although it seems that KPS still want Rachel out first).Hi, I'm a lurker in this thread, but I wanted to pose a question. I have not seen any of the live feeds but have watched this season since the first eviction. Shelly appears locked with Jordan and Jeff. Even after last nights episode she still appeared that way to me. In confessional before the POV competition she said she was just going to stay out of the way and trust Jeff, she wasn't going to try and win. If she was really pro-Dani, she would have tried to win that, no? Could Shelly just be attempting to save Dani to win her jury vote? I think she's convinced she'll make F3...maybe she figures that Rachel is doomed by anyone in the house besides Jeff or Jordan. I think she's banking on an eviction for Rachel. Just my take on it so far, but I don't know. It appears to me that Shelly would not put Jeff/Jordan on the block....??
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08-24-11, 03:59 PM (EST)
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86. "The rules don't apply to her." |
Cameras caught Danielle eating something which wasn't a visible Have-Not approved item in the small hours of last night. She was trying to sneak it and succeeded well enough that the food couldn't be IDed, but she may have broken that rule. (The 'may' is because there's a chance it was cough drops, which seem to be legal.) I doubt we'll see a penalty vote out of it due to lack of cage witnesses and the whole production favoritism issue (plus see 'cough drops'), but the act itself shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings
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08-24-11, 05:03 PM (EST)
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89. "RE: The rules don't apply to her." |
We're talking about Danielle. Pointless sneaking is in her blood.
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08-24-11, 11:27 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: The rules don't apply to her." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-11 AT 00:33 AM (EST)Over at TVClubhouse, someone said that was her retainer. I don't know if this is the same instance, but it happened about 2 a.m. I'll go back and see if I can find where they were talking about this and bring it over here. Here it is; they read it elsewhere (I don't know where)- "I read somewhere it was her retainer.
...I read on another board that someone thought it looked like the retainer that she sometimes wears."
http://www.tvclubhouse.com/forum/messages/10972/9307642.html?1314200394 Danielle HAS been accused of eating in the DR, however. I wouln't doubt that, seeing that she is Grodner's favorite to win. 
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08-25-11, 01:24 AM (EST)
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93. "RE: The rules don't apply to her." |
Well if Dani is Grodner's favorite to win, she sure doesn't seem to be having much luck persuading the HG to keep her. She's probably gonna have to threaten some pretty bad punishment to get them to keep Dani.
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08-25-11, 08:10 AM (EST)
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96. "Big Doings in the BB house last night!!" |
Got to do this quickly...only had time to read part of what was transpiring, so I hope someone else can fill in the parts I miss.--Dani worked on Adam relentlessly yesterday. --BBers received a new game in the backyard that is likely a practice game for a future comp. It's a large (10 ft long?) wooden S shaped snake curved path that is around 4 feet off the ground, balanced on some tripod type stands. They have to roll a bocce ball sized ball down the path and try to get it to the hole at one end. They have to hold this thing up and tilt it back and forth to get the ball to twist and turn on the path. Looks like arm and core strength helps with this one. From what I have read, Jordan and Porsche are the two who are good at it. --Shelly thinks she is flipping the house by aligning with Rachel to vote out Kalia and have a pact with Dani. --Shelly outed Jeff's throwing the cornhole comp to woo Rachel. --Rachel spilled to Jeff what Shelly was telling her. --Jeff says screw Shelly, he's done with her (paraphrasing), and agrees to an F4 deal with JeJo, Adam and Rachel. --Kalia is oblivious to all that is going on. --posters on Jokers are saying it was some of the best feeds in years the past few hours. Wish I had time to watch it right now! --Jeff wants to wait for Dani to get voted out and then expose Shelly for her double dealing. --Porsche was still working on Adam at 4 in the morning and Adam points out that he was never needed in an alliance with Dani before this (good for you, Adam!). I've probably missed something or a lot, but that's what I can tell is going on at the moment. It seems like it is coming down to Rachel as to whether Dani stays or not.
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08-25-11, 11:41 AM (EST)
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102. "An unholy alliance?" |
Check out the transcripts after 4:00 a.m., after Dani's already given up on Adam. Adam had already told her that he won't vote in her favor. Dani, Shelly and Rachel are talking and seem to have struck a deal on the unholy alliance of D/S/R/P. Porsche and Adam don't know about this deal yet. Adam will never find out, Porsche might be kept in the dark on a "need to know" basis until after the fact. Rachel has since seen Jeff, but it's not clear if she spilled the beans for the backstab, but warns him there is turmoil ahead.
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08-25-11, 12:31 PM (EST)
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104. "RE: An unholy alliance?" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-11 AT 12:32 PM (EST)See below. Yeah, I had the new post window already up as I was perusing the spoiler transcripts (probably about the same time as you were) and hit 'post' before returning back to the thread. Of course, there's a chance Rachel is just making Daniele think she's on her side so Buki's Revenge can be enacted at the vote. That was my thought. Get Dani to think she'll flip and then the vote becomes a final twist of the knife in Dani's back. And, in the mirror, she's already practicing that evil grin she'll throw Dani's way when the vote is revealed. Of course, she can recycle that grin and throw it JJ's way if she really does go through with the deal with Dani.
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08-25-11, 12:52 PM (EST)
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108. "RE: An unholy alliance?" |
It looked like something was out of place or missing. She saw Jeff, and then Jeff thanked her for coming to him. I don't know.
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08-25-11, 01:10 PM (EST)
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109. "RE: An unholy alliance?" |
That's the part the live feed transcripts aren't clear on. Just what did she say to Jeff?
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08-25-11, 12:35 PM (EST)
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105. "RE: The approaching storm." |
The trade-off: Sacrifice some IQ points and gain some ebilness points. Either way, Rachel is going to have that wicked witch's grin on her face when the back stab vote is revealed. I'm convinced that's half of what she plays the game for.
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08-25-11, 02:16 PM (EST)
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112. "RE: The approaching storm." |
This is the time to get out Dani. Dani is too good at competitions. They may never have another shot. I agree that Rachel has no chance of winning against JJ but she's got to see that Dani is the bigger threat. I'll be flabergasted if Kalia is evicted.
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08-25-11, 03:05 PM (EST)
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114. "RE: The approaching storm." |
What's best for Rachel and what's best for Ratings may be two different things. LOL. I do not think CBS wants Dani out.
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08-25-11, 03:37 PM (EST)
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118. "RE: The approaching storm." |
But it's also the shot to take JJ out, although that would depend on who wins the FF HoH.
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08-25-11, 02:59 PM (EST)
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113. "What did I miss?" |
I saw R go in to talk to D last night and it looked like it was maybe to keep D awake all night trying to figure out how to make that alliance viable. And right now? Everyone asleep in the HOH room? Slumber party? What did I miss here?
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08-25-11, 03:35 PM (EST)
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117. "RE: What did I miss?" |
And FF isn't just for "Fast Forward" any more. It'll be "Fuming Furious".
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08-25-11, 04:17 PM (EST)
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121. "RE: What did I miss?" |
LOL
We need an audience bad!
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