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"Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
When we last left the hamsters on TV, they were up on a wall on a 'slalom' apparatus and were told that the last one left up there will get to be the new HoH. The Golden Key holders (Daniele, Porsche, Shelly, and for about 15 seconds, Adam) were allowed to return to competitions as the 'duos' twist was dissolved and peeps could play as individuals... (which was kinda stupid when you think about it: most of the competitions during that twist were individual in nature, anyways...)

Rachel, as outgoing HoH, was the only hamster that wasn't up there... Also, the first 5 off would get to open a Big Brother 'snowball' which could be good or could be bad... but one definitely had $10k!


Chenbot also threatened that the twists weren't over yet, and we would be a part in the next one come Thursday... whatever that next twist may be... (we might know as early as tonight, when we see the America's Choice voting options...)

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 RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... vince3 07-31-11 1
   RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... jbug 08-01-11 13
       RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... samboohoo 08-01-11 16
           you have to do this.... jbug 08-01-11 17
               RE: you have to do this.... samboohoo 08-01-11 18
                   RE: you have to do this.... jbug 08-01-11 19
                       RE: you have to do this.... cahaya 08-01-11 20
                           RE: you have to do this.... jbug 08-01-11 21
 Vote Fallout and HoH competition vince3 07-31-11 2
 RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... vince3 07-31-11 3
   RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... jbug 08-01-11 14
 HoH room reveal vince3 07-31-11 4
 Reportus Interruptus vince3 07-31-11 5
   RE: Reportus Interruptus michel 07-31-11 8
       RE: Reportus Interruptus jbug 08-01-11 15
 Elf Suit time! vince3 07-31-11 6
 Nomination Ceremony vince3 07-31-11 7
   RE: Nomination Ceremony michel 07-31-11 10
 RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... kingfish 07-31-11 9
   RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... michel 07-31-11 11
       RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... vince3 07-31-11 12
           RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... suzzee 08-01-11 22
 Nominations Fallout vince3 08-03-11 23
 Pity party continues vince3 08-03-11 24
   RE: Pity party continues EmmaHead 08-03-11 30
       RE: Pity party continues Estee 08-03-11 31
           RE: Pity party continues suzzee 08-04-11 38
 Veto Competition vince3 08-03-11 25
   RE: Veto Competition vince3 08-03-11 26
 RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... vince3 08-03-11 27
 Veto Ceremony vince3 08-03-11 28
   RE: Veto Ceremony michel 08-03-11 29
       RE: Veto Ceremony cahaya 08-03-11 33
   RE: Veto Ceremony Estee 08-03-11 32
       RE: Veto Ceremony vince3 08-03-11 34
           RE: Veto Ceremony cahaya 08-03-11 35
               RE: Veto Ceremony Round Robin 08-04-11 36
                   RE: Veto Ceremony Estee 08-04-11 37
 Veto Meeting fallout vince3 08-04-11 39
   RE: Veto Meeting fallout Estee 08-04-11 40
       RE: Veto Meeting fallout Snidget 08-04-11 41
   RE: Veto Meeting fallout cahaya 08-04-11 54
       RE: Veto Meeting fallout Estee 08-05-11 60
           RE: Veto Meeting fallout suzzee 08-05-11 66
 Hamster bloopers vince3 08-04-11 42
   RE: Hamster bloopers Estee 08-04-11 43
       RE: Hamster bloopers cahaya 08-04-11 51
           RE: Hamster bloopers michel 08-04-11 53
               RE: Hamster bloopers axbridge 08-05-11 57
                   RE: Hamster bloopers michel 08-05-11 72
               RE: Hamster bloopers cahaya 08-05-11 59
                   RE: Hamster bloopers michel 08-05-11 71
 HoHterview vince3 08-04-11 44
   RE: HoHterview Estee 08-04-11 46
 RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... vince3 08-04-11 45
   Da Votes continued vince3 08-04-11 47
       The arrogance twins. Estee 08-04-11 49
   RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... jbug 08-05-11 63
   RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Sl... cahaya 08-05-11 70
 Chenbot lair vince3 08-04-11 48
 HoH Competition vince3 08-04-11 50
   RE: HoH Competition cahaya 08-04-11 52
   RE: HoH Competition michel 08-04-11 55
       RE: HoH Competition cahaya 08-04-11 56
           RE: HoH Competition kingfish 08-05-11 64
       RE: HoH Competition cahaya 08-05-11 74
           RE: HoH Competition michel 08-06-11 75
   RE: HoH Competition axbridge 08-05-11 58
       RE: HoH Competition Estee 08-05-11 61
           RE: HoH Competition kingfish 08-05-11 65
               RE: HoH Competition suzzee 08-05-11 68
                   RE: HoH Competition Estee 08-05-11 69
                       RE: HoH Competition kingfish 08-05-11 73
 For those playing the CBS drinking ... Estee 08-05-11 62
   RE: For those playing the CBS drink... suzzee 08-05-11 67
 America, let's have a talk! michel 08-11-11 76
   RE: America, let's have a talk! cahaya 08-11-11 77
   RE: America, let's have a talk! axbridge 08-12-11 78
   RE: America, let's have a talk! jbug 08-12-11 79
       RE: America, let's have a talk! cahaya 08-12-11 80

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1. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
Phil has to be going crazy by now. Any other time of year almost always has Sunday time delays... but for Big Brother so far? Not one Sunday show has been delayed: 4-4 on times.
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13. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
*WHACK*
so you were the one who caused the Prez to break in with his speech & for BB to go overtime

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16. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
This is exactly what I was about to say. I had to stop recording The Bachelorette MTA because I was already recording that and Food Network Star. I thought I was going to see a really good nomination ceremony, which was meh.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


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17. "you have to do this...."
If you still have the Prez speech recorded, go to it & put it in fast forward.
talk about bobble head!
I'm sorry, but it is just so funny to watch
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18. "RE: you have to do this...."
Um, no. I can't stand to lsten to him. Any of them, actually. I have decided that anyone seeking re-election doesn't get my vote next year.
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19. "RE: you have to do this...."
no listening involved; just watching his head bobble LOL
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20. "RE: you have to do this...."
One thing that struck me last night was how grey his hair was!

It happens to every President, as they age more years than the time they're in office.

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21. "RE: you have to do this...."
I'm beginning to suspect they all use the opposite of "Just for Men".
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2. "Vote Fallout and HoH competition"
We get to see the start of the HoH in black and white, with Chenbot telling them the instructions...

Daniele DRs that if she doesn't win the HoH, she's probably toast...

Jeff: If me or my alliance wins it, I'm safe, if not, I'm potentially toast...

Kalia: If I don't win this, I'm probably gone...

Shelly: If my alliance or me doesn't win this, I could be in trouble...

Rachel: We need to keep the momentum going...


We see the replay of Dominic's departure.

Adam: I'm glad it wasn't me.

Rachel: Bye Bye Dom!

Daniele: It's my fault Dom's gone...

Day 27.

Kalia: I didn't want to do it, but I was already in deep trouble...

Brendon: Dominic had to go...

Rachel: I hate it when I can't play in HoH... because I have to rely on others to save me...

Lawon: I never skied before... I'm in trouble...

Adam/Lawon are struggling....


Adam's gone at 9:09 and his snowball contains: Elf Suit for a week! *punts snowball, breaking it*

Lawon's gone at 19:15... and his snowball contains: Have Not Status...

Daniele's about to puke about Rachel's cheerleading of Brendon...

Brendon's out at 35:20... and his snowball contains: Have Not Status! Rachel DRs that she's not happy on the inside about his lack of winning...

Benchers are using their snowball cards to shield themselves from a 'snowstorm'

Jeff's struggling compared to all of the girls on the board... and he's asking Shelly for advice... He bails at 51:18 and his snowball contains: $10K... and 'maybe a one-way ticket home'

Jordan's out at 57:27, and the final snowball contains... Have Not Status.

Anyone who's previously been an HoH this season are now all off of the wall...


Porsche crashes out at 1:16:33 (her pain is in her 'shoulder' *points to the inside of her right elbow*)

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3. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
LAST EDITED ON 07-31-11 AT 08:31 PM (EST)

Kalia's figuring that since nobody's cheering for herself or Daniele, that Shelly's working for the Boomerang alliance...


Shelly finally cracks at 1:26:55, and Jeff figures that he's now officially in deep trouble.

Brenchel have a spat while Daniele mockingly whispers to Kalia about it...


Kalia figures that since she's probably safe with Daniele... she falls off at 1:37:01 and Daniele is officially the HoH!

She's back in the game and is large and in charge!

Rachel's like (sarcasm)Yay!(/sarcasm)


Daniele/Kalia victory dance in the Supply Room!

Daniele: Welcome to My House!

Pity party in the kitchen and Kalia tries to smooth things over with Rachel and it blows up in her face when Rachel blows her off... Rachel calls her a floater, Brendon says that she's a nobody...

Daniele tells Jordan that Jordan/Jeff are safe this week... and Jordan doesn't believe it since she was pushing for Jeff's ouster last week...

Jordan's depressed in the Have Not room, and Jeff needs her to be happy to keep him happier...

Brendon arrives with Rachel and we have a Boomerang pity party in the Have Not Room.

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14. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
they spent wayyyyyyyy to much time showing the hoh challenge.
Must've been at least 12 minutes of air time - I would have preferred seeing other stuff
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4. "HoH room reveal"
Brendon: Don't wanna go!

Jeff: *bleah*

Daniele presents the HoH bedroom bathrobe to Lawon whos' loving life now...

Rachel: this week's reveal is like... *crickets*

Shelly and Jordan talk to Lawon about his sexuality and what exactly is his 'type', which seems to be just about any type of man... and about whether it's accepted by his family and friends or not...

Looks like this is a Lawon day for character polish...


Jeff/Jordan head up to the HoH to see where Daniele is about nominations and the end of their alliance... *awkward!* Daniele explains that it was more game than personal, and Jeff says that it felt more personal than game...

Daniele laments that she may have all the power, but only one can go home... and she needs to mend fences and bridges to stay alive during the week she can't compete for HoH...

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5. "Reportus Interruptus"
or not... There was a starting to mention about Obama making a speech about the debt ceiling crises, apparently, but then... back to commercials...

and back to Obama: Agreement has been reached.

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8. "RE: Reportus Interruptus"
Obama would have liked the power to nominate a few for evictions but they went to the big HOH room and reached a deal. Good thing or we could have all been on slop!
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15. "RE: Reportus Interruptus"
we could have all been on slop!

best post of the day

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6. "Elf Suit time!"
LAST EDITED ON 07-31-11 AT 09:04 PM (EST)

Adam, please go to the Diary Room...

He DRs about how he got into this mess by him drawing the Elf Suit, and then he presents it to the hamsters...

Rachel jogs around the backyard with Porsche and by Jeff/Jordan who are discussing things at the chairs... until Rachel wipes out right into Jeff!


We get to see the awarding of the Have Not Bonus Items: Seaweed and Sardines! It started, then I get a commercial interruption...

Jordan DRs about why she's afraid of the seafood: Bad experience in Kindergarten... scarred her for life... Meanwhile, Elf Adam puts a whole display sardine into his mouth!

Brendon/Rachel's turn to approach Daniele's HoH room and see where they stand in her plans... and beg her to change her mind... but it's her best interest game-wise to spike a Boomerang out... No Deal!

Brendon: We're willing to forgive and forget, but if you come after the Boomerangs, we'll all gun for you!

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7. "Nomination Ceremony"
We hear from the Boomerangs in trouble first before we hear why Daniele made her decisions the way that she did....

Here we go...

Now the keys will come out one at a time, with Daniele turning the first key.

Key order is:

Adam, who gets to finally turn the key!
Kalia
Shelly
Lawon
Jordan
Porsche
Jeff

Brendon and Rachel are now nominated. She claims that this is because the best move in the game, when nobody else would do it...

Rachel: That was personal... Nobody comes between me and my man!

Jeff: Surprised I didn't get nominated, but is there a Backdoor Jeff plan?

Brendon: If I win the POV, I'm gonna save Rachel.

Daniele: If one of them win the POV, it's no biggie because the other one is still on the block to take the hit...

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10. "RE: Nomination Ceremony"
No fireworks during the nomination ceremony? I thought we'd see something.
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9. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
So. Adam is jewish and Lawton is gay. Both my Hebrew-dar and gaydar are non-functional. Looking back I guess I should have suspected Lawton, but he just reminded me of Rochester on the Jack Benny show, or even George Jefferson. Neither one of then are/were gay. Right?
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11. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
LAST EDITED ON 07-31-11 AT 09:25 PM (EST)

Didn't Lawon tell us he was gay in his first confessionals when he received his BB key?

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12. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
I think Lawon told us in his first confessional that if necessary, he was willing to go bi- to get what he needed/wanted!
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22. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
Lawon? He has too much fashion flair for a straight guy.

Adam? He hid it behind the bacon box.


OH NO!

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23. "Nominations Fallout"
LAST EDITED ON 08-03-11 AT 09:21 PM (EST)

Day 28.

Brendon: Rachel and I are nominated... I don't care, but when I win POV, Rachel's going off, and you'll have to deal with her...

Jeff: I'm glad I'm safe, but is there a plan to Backdoor me?

Daniele: The Target is Brendon...

Rachel: I'm coming after you with Excalibur!


Brendon/Rachel pity party in Have Not, joined by Jeff/Jordan, and then Shelly... Daniele's declared war... with Kalia at her side? Come on...

Brendon/Rachel are back alone and snuggle time pity party...

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24. "Pity party continues"
Keeps going until we go to Jeff/Jordan in the Fortune Teller room about what would happen if either Brendon/Rachel win the POV.

Now it's Brendon/Rachel's turn to join Jeff/Jordan...

They figure it's odds-on for Brendon, but Jeff is a possible option, too...

Rachel's in the Have Not Room, and gets consoled by Daniele to explain her reasons... and the fuse is lit again...

Rachel vows revenge in the DR.

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30. "RE: Pity party continues"
Why does Rachel think every game move ever made against her is a personal attack!?
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31. "RE: Pity party continues"
Historical evidence?
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38. "RE: Pity party continues"
One can't be the center of the universe without expecting a few personal attacks.


OH NO!

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25. "Veto Competition"
LAST EDITED ON 08-03-11 AT 08:28 PM (EST)

Daniele draws... Jeff (Daniele DRs that if he doesn't try his hardest, Jeff/Jordan could be toast)
Rachel draws... Adam
Brendon draws... Porsche (Rachel DRs her happiness about that)

Lawon will be the host.


Jeff tells Jordan that he won't use the Veto on Brendon/Rachel... but if he gets HoH next week... Backdoor Daniele!


Here we go...


It appears to be a combination of all the past challenges...


It's all about time...

Each round they will put up the time they think they can do the task, if they fail, they're toast... if they succeed, the person who writes down the slowest time will be eliminated...


Round 1: Gumball balance beam, 10 gumballs across the beam.

Rachel has the fastest time: 2:00... Adam wrote the slowest time so he's at risk if Rachel does it...

Kalia provides snark about Brendon's cheerleading... Rachel does it, so Adam's toast.


Round 2: Puzzle solving: Just the puzzle from the Super Veto competition.

Rachel has the fastest time :38, Porsche has the slowest time this round... Rachel... FAILS! and is eliminated.


Round 3: Giant foot with letters hidden... spell an 11-letter word using the letters in the foot... Jeff wants no part of this one...

Daniele puts down the fastest time... she thought Brendon would put down a :20 second time, and she would only need to put a few seconds more... she put down :29... and Jeff was the slowest time... Daniele FAILS!


Round 4: Cow milking return... Jeff wants to do it to control his destiny, Porsche wants no part of it... Jeff is the fastest time, Porsche's at risk... Jeff...

Commercial break as clock is running out!

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26. "RE: Veto Competition"
Conclusion of Round 4: Cow Milking... Jeff's doing it, Porsche's at risk if he gets it...


Jeff... FAILS by only a couple of seconds!


Round 5: Golf, Porsche vs. Brendon... Who can putt it into the hole fastest?

Brendon: :33... Porsche: :35...

He gets it in the hole with 2 seconds left! Brendon wins the POV!


Rachel gives him a Monkey Hug and Kiss! Daniele wants to puke...

Worst case scenario for Daniele... I didn't want to make another enemy...

Brendon brings in some of the hairs and a clock into the Have Not Room before telling Rachel that he'll tell everyone he'll use it on himself so that Daniele would have to make a last-second decision and screw it up...


Jeff/Jordan have a pity party in the Fortune Teller room... Jeff's very afraid he could be put up in a Brenchel member's stead...

Daniele's up in HoH with Kalia... Shelly arrives to get her to figure out what's up... Daniele/Kalia speculate about whether she's with Jeff/Jordan and such... Daniele decides that Jordan might be the safest bet: Jordan would be perceived as less a threat, hopefully... (even though that's how she won BB11...)


America's Vote: Bonus Items!

Coconuts/Catfish
Liverwurst/Lima Beans
Raisins/Rhubarb


Well, unless we get Revive-A-Hamster voting starting some time after the live show... What will the next twist be, then?

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27. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
Jeff/Jordan come up to HoH to see what Daniele is up to...

Daniele wants Jeff/Jordan to fish to see what Brendon's up to. Daniele's counting on Brendon playing Martyr and taking off Rachel... but if he does take himself off... now what is she gonna do...?

Jordan offers herself as a Pawn if she thinks she have the votes...

Brendon tells Jeff/Jordan that he'll go up and figure which way she's going: If he takes himself off... does she want Rachel to stay or go? Stay: Put up someone like Lawon, then...


They head up to HoH to tell her about it... and offer that if she puts up someone that would get Rachel to stay, they're willing to go 'clean slate'... but if not, war will be declared...

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28. "Veto Ceremony"
Brendon DRs that he's gonna take off Rachel, hoping to screw up the replacement nominations...

Daniele DRs her frustrations about that, and who'll she'll put up against Rachel.

Jeff worries that if Daniele puts up Jordan against Rachel that could still stay...


Brendon uses the POV on... Rachel. Daniele bemoans her fate, and Jordan is the replacement nominee.

Brendon thinks he did his job, Daniele is glad that her Target is still on the block...

Jordan is hoping that she's the Pawn... but Pawns get captured...

Rachel's loving life thanks to her Prince Charming (barf) saving her from the Wicked Witch Daniele...


Evel Dicque is promised to make an appearance on tomorrow night's live eviction show!

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29. "RE: Veto Ceremony"
Brendon's strategy: Do what your enemy wants!!!!
He thought he was being smart but, with Daniele wanting him to save Rachel, he really looked dumb.
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33. "RE: Veto Ceremony"
Rather than him flicking the house of cards over, it'll be the house of cards flicking him out!

He sure does look dumb with those comments of his in DR.

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32. "RE: Veto Ceremony"
LAST EDITED ON 08-03-11 AT 09:37 PM (EST)

The only shot Brendon may have of staying is the original A.S.S. argument: 'She's already won, so it's not as if she needs the money.' (It's not a question of coming up with something valid, it's delivering a line people will fall for.) But in this case, personality will swing the day. Brendon only becomes tolerable once he's been separated from Rachel, while Jordan drives you insane in such a sincere way. On the whole, it's easy to deal with Jordan as long as you've got a soft surface to pound your head against -- so out goes Brendon.

And the question then becomes 'For how long?'

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34. "RE: Veto Ceremony"
Yeah, and since they padded the walls in the Have Not Room... you could stand her idiocy longer than you probably should... because if she gets near the end again, she could win it again...

As for Brendon, you have to feel that if they're gonna do Revive-A-Hamster, it's either at the live show tomorrow somehow, or the next one... because after that, Jury starts to form.

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35. "RE: Veto Ceremony"
you have to feel that if they're gonna do Revive-A-Hamster, it's either at the live show tomorrow somehow, or the next one...

This would be a perfectly scary time to bring in the Undead Evel.

Unlikely, perhaps, but not impossible.

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36. "RE: Veto Ceremony"
The Superb!tch in Charge sez in TV guide that she ain't gonna bring Evil D1ck back since he wasn't sequestered.
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37. "RE: Veto Ceremony"
I'm surprised you managed to read that far without needing a vomit break.

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39. "Veto Meeting fallout"
Day 34.

Highlights of Brendon taking off Rachel, Daniele putting up Jordan... Day 31.

Brendon: That was a no-brainer...

Daniele: My dreams have come true.

Jeff: Not surprising that Jordan's on the block, she's the safer bet to stay.

Jordan: Please tell me that I'm going to be evicted... I bought an Eviction Dress, and I don't want to wear anything else if I have to walk the plank...

Rachel: Upset that Brendon's gonna be toast... has a crying jag in Have Not Room. He makes me so proud... Who will I jump on when I next win HoH?


Jeff/Jordan/Shelly converse in a hallway about Brendon's decision... and that if she goes melancholy about Brendon, he'll rip whatever hair he has left out...

Daniele's counting votes to make sure Brendon's toast... She for sure has Kalia, Lawon, and Jeff to save Jordan... Brendon has Rachel... and hopefully Porsche, Shelly, Adam...?

Shelly's on the fence, as is Adam... Who will you tick off by voting out their significant other?

Adam DR's that he's not sure which way he's going...

Daniele's worrying about where RachHell is at? Since she's in the DR, Daniele's looking to swing Porsche to her side to stick it to Rachel... and to keep the votes definitely her way... Enter Rachel. *awkward silence...* Then she quickly leaves... and DRs again... Cut to Porsche/Rachel on the patio, with Brendon arriving... and Rachel's fuse is lit... AGAIN!

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40. "RE: Veto Meeting fallout"
So what's worse: Rachel's ongoing breakdown or Danielle's failure to realize the drop from HoH is about to open up directly under her feet?
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41. "RE: Veto Meeting fallout"
Do you think we can get a Flash Mob close enough to the house to yell DOR loud enough for Rachel to hear?

Why is she so shocked everyone is in this game for themselves. Is she there for any reason other than her own? Either winning, or keeping Brendon locked up with her 24/7 both are about her.

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54. "RE: Veto Meeting fallout"
What was that one-piece hooded outfit Porsche was wearing when she was meeting with Daniele in the HoH room (and when Rachel dropped in and left again)?

It looked like a one-piece combination of shorts, swim suit top and hoodie. What do they call those things anyway?

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60. "RE: Veto Meeting fallout"
I believe they generally call them 'a horrible mistake'.
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66. "RE: Veto Meeting fallout"
I think they're called rompers, as in infant wear. Usually there are snaps upside the legs for diaper changes. How appropriate.


OH NO!

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42. "Hamster bloopers"
Adam's up first, getting asked about his Elf Suit... and he even does an Elf Dance with Metal Roar...

Rachel gets asked about being saved by Brendon... (the only previous time one nominee saved the other was when Dicque saved Daniele, and then he got saved by America's Hamster...)

Jeff is asked about the possibility about being in the cage without Jordan...


Speaking about Dicque... He comments about her gameplay, which he thinks is Terrible... and Dominic... who was basically this season's Nick... we were also shown a number of Donato Season 8 victories...

He watches the 'CBS footage' and comments about her attempt to Backdoor Jeff and all that... Does she have a chance to win? Yes, but she's got a lot more work to do...

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43. "RE: Hamster bloopers"
It's all reruns! Ye gawds, do a little computer color change on Danielle's hair and you've just about got identical scenes...

And I'll agree with Dick on this much: Danielle went for the dissolve too early.

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51. "RE: Hamster bloopers"
Yup, not until it gets down to about 8 according to his strategy. I drop in on his site now and then to get his take on things. He is a master strategist.
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53. "RE: Hamster bloopers"
"He is a master strategist"

Aren't we all master strategist when sitting behind a computer? Big Brother isn't really about strategy anyway if, by strategy, you mean making moves like in chess. For proof, Shelley and Jordan are in very good positions while doing basically nothing more than being nice and non-threatening.

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57. "RE: Hamster bloopers"
>"He is a master strategist"
>
>Aren't we all master strategist when
>sitting behind a computer? Big
>Brother isn't really about strategy
>anyway if, by strategy, you
>mean making moves like in
>chess. For proof, Shelley and
>Jordan are in very good
>positions while doing basically nothing
>more than being nice and
>non-threatening.

I disagree with that. Shelly has been kissing up to everyone she thinks is "important", regardless of who they are. She is everyone's best bud and on everyone's side. Whatever. She is phony and insincere in the worst possible way. She gives new meaning to snake in the grass.

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72. "RE: Hamster bloopers"
> She is everyone's best
>bud and on everyone's side.


That is the best way to play. Unfortunately, she may have overdone it because we heard Danielle say she doesn't trust her.

When I heard Danielle and everyone else telling Jordan that she was safe, that Brendon was much more dangerous, my thoughts were: Dumbasses: That's exactly why Jordan will beat you all in the end. Brendon and Rachel, dynamic duo all they want, would never, ever win BB. Jordan could repeat.

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59. "RE: Hamster bloopers"
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Big Brother isn't really about strategy anyway if, by strategy, you mean making moves like in chess. For proof, Shelley and Jordan are in very good positions while doing basically nothing more than being nice and non-threatening.

Agreed, not like chess, partly because there's no element of diplomacy in chess. But have you ever played the board game Diplomacy? In that game you try to set up alliances, break up others' alliances, enter into non-aggression pacts, make neutrality declarations, temporary arrangements (team up for a week to accomplish a shared turn objective with no long-term commitments) and so on, with the battles being more a resolution of diplomacy than military tactics. It's very much a strategy game and I see a lot of parallels between the two. If you haven't played Diplomacy, another game that is sort of close along these lines is Risk

There are also some computer-based diplomacy simulation games that go along these same lines. There is some game theory that applies to this in optimizing your chances of winning. You could theoretically set up a turn-based computer game for BB and try out the various diplomacy strategies and responses. Indeed, it'd be fairly easy to set up a simulated BB game on these boards (and I might try setting this up and host it!).

I guess my original comment is that ED has played, watched, studied and commented enough on the game to have a fairly good grasp of the diplomatic strategies, particularly the timing of when to create/shift/break alliances and who to do them with.

(eta) Just for the fun ot it... I've opened up the Hamster House game in Fanatics!

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71. "RE: Hamster bloopers"
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I haven't played Diplomacy but I quickly went over the basic rules and I think you are being very generous to say that the game of Big Brother is on that level.

Risk, I have played often and maybe it's closer because there is a randomness in Big Brother that you can associate with rolling the dice.

In this case, Kalia becoming HOH is really a random event. No amount of "stragedy" could prepare anyone for that outcome!


"ED has played, watched, studied and commented enough on the game to have a fairly good grasp of the diplomatic strategies, particularly the timing of when to create/shift/break alliances and who to do them with.

I was one of the few on these boards to say that there was genius to ED's madness and, just by having been in the house, he is in a much better situation than regular fans to have a good grasp on events, so for that, I agree with you. However, my comment was more to the effect that, even with all his strategic magnificence, he would never have won BB8 if not for DR interventions, "America"'s Player and "America"'s votes. Diplomacy was totally absent from his game!


Look, Jordan has a good chance right now to be a repeat winner...Jordan!!! She is nice and makes me laugh but I am eagerly waiting for proof of her strategic skills.

(I put quotes around America to underline BB's arrogance to think America really cares)

ETA: And, as far as Game Theory goes; it would tell you that the only thing to do in BB is to be a follower like Will, like Dan and maybe like Shelley. You follow everyone but are with no one and you make your move only when it is really necessary. Hopefully, you will need to be HOH only at F4 or, if you win it before, you are seen as a Jordan: Someone not really in charge of those nominations, not really responsible.

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44. "HoHterview"
First question is about the switch in strategy to target Jeff first... and how it cost Dominic...

She's asked about Dicque's opinion about her strategy, and she figures that he would support it somewhat...

Rachel... can you mend fences with her? Only if Rachel does it first, she takes everything personal...

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46. "RE: HoHterview"
And that may have just been the pot/kettle of the year.
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45. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
No Trashbag wedding scenes... guess they're saving them for a rainy day or Remember When at the end...

Both nominees talk about both themselves and their loved ones...

Da Votes:

Jeff: Brendon
Rachel: Jordan (some laughing in the crowd...)

Newbies vote after the break.

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47. "Da Votes continued"
Kalia: Brendon
Adam: (dances in) Brendon
Porsche: Jordan
Lawon: Brendon (deathblow!)
Shelly: Brendon (and blows a kiss)

By a vote of 5-2, Brendon goes on to the Revive-A-Hamster ballot, and to the Chenbot Lair. Chenbot goes for the fake out telling Jordan that she is safe before telling Brendon he's toast...

Longest hug is for Rachel and he gives her one more carry twirl before he leaves.

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49. "The arrogance twins."
Imagine what would happen if Danielle and Kalia land on the block together. There may not be enough backs to stab.

And the fakeout didn't even come close to working -- at least for Brendon. He knew no scenario let him have more than four votes.

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63. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
Brendon gave a good bye speech instead of why he should stay in the house.
Jordon's was only a bit better.

Imagine Hell's Kitchen when Gordon asks the ones on the block why they should stay; and they thanks & goodbye instead!!! LOL

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70. "RE: Big Brother 13 ECST Week 4: Slalom Endurance HoH to another twist?"
No Trashbag wedding scenes... guess they're saving them for a rainy day or Remember When at the end...

SeeBeeEss has posted a wedding video in their video features. Agreed they might save it to air another day, if at all.

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48. "Chenbot lair"
Brendon gets grilled about keeping Rachel over himself, and about Daniele's early defection...

Kalia's goodbye message is Scorched Earth.
Jordan is a happy camper, hoping for the invite to the wedding.
Daniele: What goes around comes around...
Rachel: *teary goodbye*


Julie: Houseguests, report to the living room!


Remember that the twists were far from over? Think carefully about who you want to evict next... because they'll get a chance to be Revived!

IT'S TIME FOR AMERICA'S VOTE: REVIVE-A-HAMSTER! The order for the Text Voting is the order they were evicted... Deadline is next Wednesday at 11:59 Pacific... Whoever wins the vote will 'compete' against the next evictee for the right to be revived...

And since the voting period is all of next week, expect Endurance/Luxury in the next cycle...

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50. "HoH Competition"
Check Mate

Answer a question based on the first 3 evicted Hamsters: Keith, Cassi, Dominic...

Win and move on, lose and you're out... No one answers, both are toast... Winner selects next pair.

Jordan/Kalia: refers to hamsters as...: Kalia: Dominic.
Lawon/Rachel: didn't play in march of ants: Rachel: Keith.
Kalia/Adam: Nominated for eviction twice: Kalia: Dominic
Rachel/Porsche: HoH BB open who putted... Rachel: Dominic (wrong) Rachel got a silent bleep after she buzzed in too early... Chenbot: KEEP IT CLEAN HAMSTERS!
Shelly/Jeff: Eviction: some friendships... Shelly: Cassi
Kalia/Porsche: Who was 3rd off of the 1st HoH? Kalia: Keith.
Kalia/Shelly: spelled Standing? Kalia: Dominic, to win the HoH and keep their alliance in power!

The only thing that would make the revival of her evictee better would have been if Chenbot kept it quiet until it was too late...

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52. "RE: HoH Competition"
LAST EDITED ON 08-04-11 AT 10:39 PM (EST)

The Drama Queen remains being a lowly pawn, and a newbie pawn gets promoted to HoH Queen!

(Pleased.)

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55. "RE: HoH Competition"
Porsche made the mistake, sending Shelley and Jeff together, saving Kalia from that round.

Kalia's nominations? Jeff and Rachel, I'd say.

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56. "RE: HoH Competition"
Kalia's nominations? Jeff and Rachel, I'd say.

Likely, although Jeff & Jordan would be a logical choice to bust the final bound pair left in the game.

At the same time, Rachel is too obvious a choice and if any of the house want to save her as a solo player, Jeff's still an option to bust the duo. A lot might depend on how sick she makes them of hearing her over the next few days.

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64. "RE: HoH Competition"

"A lot might depend on how sick she makes them of hearing her over the next few days."

Surely they've reached the tipping point on that. As in tipping the Titanic.

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74. "RE: HoH Competition"
Kalia's nominations? Jeff and Rachel, I'd say.

You called it. A rather predictable strategy, no?

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75. "RE: HoH Competition"
Strategy or simply childish revenge?
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58. "RE: HoH Competition"
Kalia was a fool to pick Rachel and Lawon to play against each other. She almost screwed the pooch on that one. She should have immediately targeted Rachel and Porsche.
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61. "RE: HoH Competition"
I'm putting that one down to Kalia's hatred of her former partner. She likely saw that matchup as 'No matter who wins, someone I despise can't be HoH this week.'
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65. "RE: HoH Competition"
I'm guessing that that reasoning will be the basis of her Nom. decision.

Lawton and Rachel, I'm supposing. Unless Dani has another "great" strategy and gets in her head.

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68. "RE: HoH Competition"
Rachel evicted, then plays against Brendon for revive a rat. Will he throw it or not.


OH NO!

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69. "RE: HoH Competition"
Double-throw. First he throws the competition and then Kalia throws a fit.
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73. "RE: HoH Competition"
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The Double Throw!

The fingerprints of the WWE writer are all too obvious.

Before we get to the end they'll be slinging folding chairs around.

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62. "For those playing the CBS drinking game."
Not only did we go to fish last night, but for a while, the online Revive-A-Hamster advisory opinion was asking for AEMRICA'S VOTE.
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67. "RE: For those playing the CBS drinking game."
CBS (or is it ABC) network game show brain trust has been indulging in the hamster hooch. Very sloppy.


OH NO!

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76. "America, let's have a talk!"
Why did you have to vote for Brendon?
I see it as another sign of the decline of the American Empire!

On the other hand, seeing Lawon getting the boot and Danielle's anguish almost made up for it.

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77. "RE: America, let's have a talk!"
Ick. Brendon?! One thing for sure, he's not all about "Change"!

It's back to status quo for the incumbents.

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78. "RE: America, let's have a talk!"
I don't believe for one minute that America actually voted Brendon back in. I think it's just another instance of Allison Grodner and CBS rigging the competition to bring Brendon back for more drama. I refuse to believe that this was on the up and up.
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79. "RE: America, let's have a talk!"
maybe the voters were thinking Rachel would be voted out - and then we'd get to watch the 2 of them compete....?
or would Brendon have then just given it to her again?

I wondered if Rachel had been evicted if the returning player vote might have been different.

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80. "RE: America, let's have a talk!"
and then we'd get to watch the 2 of them compete

Interesting theory, except I'd expect Brendon to throw the comp to Rachel if it came to that.

"Oh, Brendon, my hero! You not only sacrificed yourself for me, but you did it twice!"

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