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"Live feeds: The Blonde Following The Blonde week."
Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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"Live feeds: The Blonde Following The Blonde week." |
This is worth starting the new week over: Eric just insulted Julie on camera. His line: 'Has she ever gone a single show without botching one line? I don't think so -- right? She's getting all out of sorts. I don't think she even knows our names...' Good thing Julie never watches the show. Amber is -- well, guess. Right. Crying. On time-delay for once, but crying. Jameka's changing clothes, muttering about how loyalty means nothing in the house and how typical it is. She's staying away from the others. Some discussion that the new drapery is meant to help hide banners. Dick is already going over nominations with Danielle. Insta-plan: put up Jameka & Amber, backdoor Jen if needed.
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vince3 |
08-16-07 |
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The plan: |
vince3 |
08-17-07 |
2 |
RE: The plan: |
MarkP |
08-17-07 |
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Possible motivations for targeting ... |
Estee |
08-17-07 |
5 |
RE: Possible motivations for target... |
MarkP |
08-17-07 |
10 |
RE: Possible motivations for target... |
Wacko Jacko |
08-17-07 |
11 |
RE: The plan: |
aquariaqueen |
08-17-07 |
8 |
RE: The plan: |
Estee |
08-17-07 |
9 |
RE: The plan: |
carmaj0530 |
08-17-07 |
16 |
RE: The plan: |
JoshInSGV |
08-17-07 |
15 |
Flood teams on standby: |
vince3 |
08-17-07 |
4 |
RE: Flood teams on standby: |
Estee |
08-17-07 |
6 |
RE: Flood teams on standby: |
vince3 |
08-17-07 |
7 |
RE: Flood teams on standby: |
flipxcyd |
08-17-07 |
27 |
RE: Flood teams on standby: |
Dakota |
08-17-07 |
28 |
Things you wouldn't believe if they... |
Estee |
08-17-07 |
12 |
RE: Things you wouldn't believe if ... |
jd8855 |
08-17-07 |
13 |
RE: Things you wouldn't believe if ... |
Glass |
08-17-07 |
14 |
RE: Things you wouldn't believe if ... |
michel |
08-17-07 |
17 |
RE: Things you wouldn't believe if ... |
Dakota |
08-17-07 |
29 |
Everybody up! |
Estee |
08-17-07 |
18 |
RE: Everybody up! |
carmaj0530 |
08-17-07 |
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RE: Everybody up! |
michel |
08-17-07 |
21 |
RE: Live feeds: The Blonde Followi... |
shanshan2007 |
08-17-07 |
20 |
RE: Live feeds: The Blonde Followi... |
vince3 |
08-17-07 |
22 |
RE: Live feeds: The Blonde Followi... |
michel |
08-17-07 |
23 |
Food Competition in progress |
vince3 |
08-17-07 |
24 |
RE: Food Competition in progress |
vince3 |
08-17-07 |
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Three on slop. |
Estee |
08-17-07 |
26 |
Nominations... |
frisky |
08-17-07 |
30 |
RE: Nominations... |
Dakota |
08-18-07 |
31 |
RE: Nominations... |
observe |
08-18-07 |
32 |
RE: Nominations... |
teacherkelly |
08-18-07 |
33 |
RE: Nominations... |
Dakota |
08-18-07 |
34 |
RE: Nominations... |
ohmyheck |
08-19-07 |
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RE: Nominations... |
observe |
08-19-07 |
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RE: Nominations... |
Lasann |
08-20-07 |
48 |
Sunday happenings |
Rebel Crown |
08-20-07 |
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Religious question. |
Estee |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Religious question. |
Wacko Jacko |
08-20-07 |
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Jen |
leenga |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Religious question. |
Glass |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Religious question. |
Estee |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Religious question. |
mia rules18 |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Religious question. |
Estee |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Religious question. |
ohmyheck |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Religious question. |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
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Sunday's America's Choice Update |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Sunday's America's Choice Updat... |
nanrabbit |
08-20-07 |
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Veto Meeting |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Veto Meeting |
Lasann |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Veto Meeting |
samboohoo |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Veto Meeting |
AyaK |
08-21-07 |
75 |
RE: Veto Meeting |
Norcalfella2 |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Veto Meeting |
Glass |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Veto Meeting |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
94 |
RE: Veto Meeting |
Estee |
08-20-07 |
51 |
RE: Veto Meeting |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Veto Meeting |
Estee |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Veto Meeting |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Veto Meeting |
Estee |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Veto Meeting |
JoshInSGV |
08-20-07 |
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rockdog |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Live feeds: The Blonde Followi... |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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More terms that Amber doesn't know |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Live feeds: The Blonde Followi... |
maryellennaco |
08-20-07 |
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RE: Live feeds: The Blonde Followi... |
nailbone |
08-21-07 |
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vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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This is interesting..... |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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RE: This is interesting..... |
MarkP |
08-20-07 |
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From the Youtube clip of her readin... |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
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I think Jen's timer just hit zero |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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Oh Hell! |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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hiding is fine, destroying is not. |
vince3 |
08-20-07 |
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Apparently the slop ate Jen's brain... |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
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Does anyone else... |
Undertow12345 |
08-21-07 |
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penalty nom |
Undertow12345 |
08-21-07 |
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RE: penalty nom |
JoshInSGV |
08-21-07 |
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RE: penalty nom |
LibraRising |
08-21-07 |
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RE: penalty nom |
Snidget |
08-21-07 |
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RE: penalty nom |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Apparently the slop ate Jen's b... |
KwietOne |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Apparently the slop ate Jen's b... |
Undertow12345 |
08-21-07 |
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Small clarification. |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Small clarification. |
newsomewayne |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Small clarification. |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Small clarification. |
newsomewayne |
08-22-07 |
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RE: I think Jen's timer just hit ze... |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
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RE: I think Jen's timer just hit ze... |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
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Mask? What mask? |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Mask? What mask? |
ohmyheck |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Mask? What mask? |
toddE |
08-23-07 |
131 |
The Fallout: |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
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And who pays the price? |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
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Commentary from the tattoo gallery. |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
79 |
The flaw in the plan. |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
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RE: The flaw in the plan. |
Corvis |
08-21-07 |
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In case you're wondering... |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
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Zach, Zach, Zach..... |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Zach, Zach, Zach..... |
carmaj0530 |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Zach, Zach, Zach..... |
nailbone |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Zach, Zach, Zach..... |
Glass |
08-21-07 |
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RE: Zach, Zach, Zach..... |
nailbone |
08-22-07 |
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I think BB just tacked on an additi... |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
99 |
RE: I think BB just tacked on an ad... |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
101 |
RE: I think BB just tacked on an ad... |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
102 |
RE: I think BB just tacked on an ad... |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
105 |
RE: I think BB just tacked on an ad... |
AugustGirl |
08-21-07 |
107 |
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newsomewayne |
08-22-07 |
112 |
Festival of blue swirlies. |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
104 |
Flip. Flop. |
Estee |
08-21-07 |
106 |
RE: Flip. Flop. |
vince3 |
08-22-07 |
110 |
Apparently the penalty was actually... |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
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Per Tuesday Night's show |
vince3 |
08-21-07 |
109 |
Getting ##### thrown off the show |
Undertow12345 |
08-22-07 |
113 |
RE: Getting D/ck thrown off the sho... |
leenga |
08-22-07 |
114 |
RE: Getting D/ck thrown off the sho... |
carmaj0530 |
08-22-07 |
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RE: Getting ##### thrown off the sh... |
abbahammer |
08-22-07 |
116 |
RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the sho... |
Snidget |
08-22-07 |
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RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the sho... |
Undertow12345 |
08-22-07 |
120 |
RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the sho... |
newsomewayne |
08-22-07 |
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RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the sho... |
Snidget |
08-22-07 |
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RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the sho... |
carmaj0530 |
08-22-07 |
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RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the sho... |
tamarama |
08-22-07 |
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carmaj0530 |
08-22-07 |
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WARNING - Undertow12345 |
Bebo |
08-22-07 |
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Mike Boogie Confirms the Rumor |
leenga |
08-22-07 |
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RE: Mike Boogie Confirms the Rumor |
nailbone |
08-22-07 |
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Estee |
08-22-07 |
126 |
RE: Mike Boogie Confirms the Rumor |
Undertow12345 |
08-22-07 |
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tamarama |
08-23-07 |
130 |
Apparently there's some redecoratin... |
vince3 |
08-23-07 |
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Estee |
08-23-07 |
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MarkP |
08-24-07 |
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Micro-information on the P10 appear... |
Estee |
08-23-07 |
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vince3 |
08-23-07 |
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tamarama |
08-23-07 |
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frisky |
08-23-07 |
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tamarama |
08-24-07 |
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 01:35 AM (EST)
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2. "The plan:" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-17-07 AT 01:37 AM (EST)D&D's plan for the nominations are to put up Amber and Jameka. Then, have everyone throw the POV to one of the nominees and have that nominee save their butt, and have the replacement nominee be Jen who'd be shown the backdoor out. Unless, Jen wins the POV. Then the plan is to have Jen not take anyone off and send Amber packing....... They're also hoping there's some money in this weeks POV so they can win some......... The general plan for the next two weeks/cycles is Jen then Amber. (and then probably Jameka, since at that point she would've sat out 4 of the 5 HoH comps from that POV comp.....)
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carmaj0530 41 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-17-07, 12:03 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: The plan:" |
Anyone that is still in that house (besides d&d and maybe even them too) that thinks anyone else is for them is crazy. At what point does "reality" get so warped that people in the house think they can take someone else's word as the whole truth. You are going to say anything and everything to secure your spot in the house. I mean really, even the innocent player will turn with the game. Its inevitable.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 08:21 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Flood teams on standby:" |
Huh. So maybe the VFTW factor did split between Dick and Jessica, letting the rest of the polled take the majority: that's the first AP decision in a while to favor Eric. Or maybe it's just that everyone's that sick of Amber...
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 08:41 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Flood teams on standby:" |
Yep. The last AP assignment that Eric probably liked the results of was the F2 promise to Jessica (which he made before the poll closed.......)
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flipxcyd 1053 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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08-17-07, 08:29 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Flood teams on standby:" |
I'm surprised the "Screw Eric Faction" didn't try to push Dicque to be put on the block. I'm also surprised Eric wasn't one of the choices to be placed on the block. LOL
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 10:54 AM (EST)
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12. "Things you wouldn't believe if they hadn't happened." |
At some point last night, Eric decided to try on Jessica's Day One outfit, headhand and all. As it turned out, her shoes fit him perfectly. He then paraded around the cage for a while collecting people's fashion opinions.Not content with this new wardrobe option, Eric then decided to try out another outfit: the ever-popular birthday suit. This was followed by doing nude jumping jacks in front of Jen, Jessica, Amber, and Jameka. Somewhere during this display of physical whatness, Eric asked for Jameka's honest opinion of his genital size, instantly bringing about The Blue Swirlie Of Mercy. I think it may be time to cut off the alcohol supply.
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jd8855 105 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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08-17-07, 11:15 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Things you wouldn't believe if they hadn't happened." |
LOL they should never cut off alcohol supply it's the only time things get fun. I don't know what to think of Jess, Eric and D&D. I think that backdooring Jen is a bad idea. they should split up Jameka and Amber and I am so sick of Amber crying she is driving me nuts. I am loving the look on Dustin's face when he got voted off. i would have loved him to used htat curtesy flush line as it would have added inssult to injury and he would have really looked like and A$$
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 02:03 PM (EST)
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18. "Everybody up!" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-17-07 AT 02:04 PM (EST)Food competition in a BB hour or so, which translates to 'any time before sunset'. The hamsters think they can hear the crew outside, running through the basics. Eric is now regreting his nude exercise session. (Never as much fun after the beer wears off, is it?) He wishes he could take it back. Jen tells him it's okay because it was dark. Eric's not so sure. Jen having her usual morning -- put on makeup, go out to the kitchen, have Dick tell her to put on makeup, doesn't she know she's on television... Last night's dinner had fortune cookies served with it. Jameka's apparently predicted that 'you will soon be crossing warm waters for a fun vacation'. This has become a very minor punchline in the house: Zach just said it about Jen. No word from Jameka on whether her deity likes to bake. The cookies for the others, in case you want to look for either a Tarot-style thread or production plants: Jessica: The time is right to make a new friend. Eric: It's okay to slow down and smell the roses. Zach: Others find your charm irresistable. (And there goes the credibility of the cookies.) Dick: Others will be impressed with your artistic side. Daniele: Focus on your long term goal. Amber: Good news is on your way. Jen: You're inclined to come up with unconventional solutions.
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carmaj0530 41 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-17-07, 02:32 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Everybody up!" |
I was going with production plant until Zach's cookie. Right out the window after that one.
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08-17-07, 03:20 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Live feeds: The Blonde Following The Blonde week." |
If Eric wouldn't have had to vote for Dustin to leave because of America's vote, it would have been tied. HOH breaks a tie. Who would Jessica have voted out? Did she say?
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 03:28 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Live feeds: The Blonde Following The Blonde week." |
I think if Eric had to vote for Dick, the alliance change wouldn't have happened. Zach would've voted for Dick also (because he was in Jessica's back pocket.....) so the vote would have been 4-2 for Dick's eviction and Jessica wouldn't have had to worry about the tiebreaker.......
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michel 10812 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 03:37 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Live feeds: The Blonde Following The Blonde week." |
The tie could also have happened with Jen's vote. When Zach voted Dustin, I thought that showed which way Jess was going to vote. Zach wasn't changing his vote unless Jess told him to.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 04:05 PM (EST)
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24. "Food Competition in progress" |
The feeds have been on trivia for nearly 2 hours........
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 04:48 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Food Competition in progress" |
Toga! Toga! Toga!The feeds have returned and the hamsters are done with the food competition. No mention yet of anyone on slop, so maybe it was another whole house comp? The highlights so far is that they definitely got fixings for a Turkey and Swiss sandwhich and a new kind of pancake batter. They also restocked the salsa, but it's still too hot for Princess Jen....... Oh! The table has gone down to the next smaller size.......... You have got to be kidding me! Zach just said it was a Slop Pong competition! (Beer/Water Pong is one of the hobbies of the house.......)
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frisky 11684 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-17-07, 11:00 PM (EST)
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30. "Nominations..." |
According to TVCH...Ambwhore and Hmmmeka.Ambwhore thinks she has been nominated because nobody wants to sit next to her in the final 2 because she is a mother, has a family, needs the money, and everyone likes her. Meanwhile, Hmmmeka thinks that this has all happened for a reason...to make them both stronger. Ambwhore says she had a vision that she won the Holy Veto and saw Dicque putting the Holy Veto around her neck. Ergo, this means that Danielle will make Dicque the host of the comp. Hmmmeka thinks that she (not sure if "she" means Ambwhore or Hmmmeka) has been blessed by God with the power to see the future. Now that they have totally deluded themselves, they are now going over who they should put up next week when Ambwhore wins HoH. Rolly made this.
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teacherkelly 179 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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08-18-07, 07:52 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Nominations..." |
When the season first began, I was hoping for an Amber, Jameka, Nick and Daniele F4. An odd combination, I know. Now I hope it's D & D, Eric and Jess. Let the 4 best players fight it out til the end.
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ohmyheck 1919 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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08-19-07, 01:51 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Nominations..." |
Twice. Janelle took Maggie off and put Ivette on to insure Jennifer's eviction, and April took Janelle off and backdoored James.
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Lasann 3616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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08-20-07, 03:45 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Nominations..." |
Oh my, they are a backdooring bunch of peeps, aren't they.*sigh* I don't want Jen gone! Flashed by Agman.
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Rebel Crown 1411 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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08-20-07, 04:19 AM (EST)
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37. "Sunday happenings" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-20-07 AT 05:22 AM (EST)Daniele made a deal with Amber to use POV on her - to not be nominated if Amber ever got HOH. Not much of a deal since Daniele already had made up her mind to use it to put up Jen, considering Amber probably will never BE HOH. The HGs found something else to do besides Beer Pong. The Magic Beer Can was created. Then, the boys played dress-up. Ending with a body-paint session. Just another normal Sunday . The Magic Beer Can predicted a few interesting things, some of which I've edited for language (from Jokers): Who's had plastic surgery and not admitted to it? - ##### (says he had a boob reduction job) LOL Who was caught munching panties of fellow HG's? - Amber Who would be a stripper if nobody could find out? - Jameka Who takes the least amount of showers in the house? - Amber Who's gonna waste most of the money won from winning the show? - Danielle Who does production love the most? - Jess Who does production hate the most? - Eric Who is productions favorite? - Jess Who's gonna be the first pregnant or father a child when out of the house? - Jen If stranded in the house and production was gone, who would we eat? - Wamber Who s*cked the producers **** to get on the show? - Jessica Who do we kill and eat first? - Amber Who will win the game? - Daniele During the evening, Eric and Zach put on Jen's bikini and unitard, respectively. Pics are here (partial male nudity involved, so didn't want to post them directly)- Scroll down to 8/20 at 12:19 a.m. http://www.tvclubhouse.com/forum/messages/10972/4354395.html?1187594526 Edited to add: an update before I go to bed. Eric is getting his body painted by Jess and Jen. I'm really glad I have yet to see this in person - I'm about to have nightmares already just from the words alone.
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Wacko Jacko 2434 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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08-20-07, 11:52 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Religious question." |
Well, it sucks of Jen is taken out that way. This season has been nails on the chalk board. I am 'this' close to not watching anymore.
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leenga 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-20-07, 12:21 PM (EST)
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42. "Jen" |
it seems the only way Jen might make it is if America tells Eric to save her, here's hoping!!
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-20-07, 03:37 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Religious question." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-20-07 AT 04:21 PM (EST)What's an obscure S:SI reference???? The potentially really long answer: http://tinyurl.com/yvw3d6 The much shorter answer: it's a representative from that really rare species, the original-characters reality show fanfic. (The initials stand for Survivor: The Society Islands.) Precognition -- or the illusion of same -- plays a major role in the season. We're going to get another one on-site this fall, reviving The Mole. What do you mean by "God's chosen?"??? Well, it generally refers to Judaica as a whole. I'm pretty sure that's not how Amber and Jameka are reading it. Amber might get through the first paragraph of any given book. Including the Bible.
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ohmyheck 1919 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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08-20-07, 08:24 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Religious question." |
Yay!!! You're writing again! Aren't you going to be completely exhausted again?
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nanrabbit 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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08-20-07, 02:21 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Sunday's America's Choice Update" |
Good thing he did not have to give it to Amber since Wric would have spent all night explaining what "woobie" meant!
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Lasann 3616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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08-20-07, 03:48 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: Veto Meeting" |
As well she should be.Wasn't it looked down on to "backdoor" in previous seasons. Not that it wasn't done, but EVERY eviction wasn't this chicken-sh!t way. Or was I watching another show? Flashed by Agman.
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samboohoo 17075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-20-07, 04:09 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Veto Meeting" |
Agree. Pretty ridiculous. Especially when you have no way to play for the Veto to even give yourself a chance. I guess we always have Eric's vote, and possibly Zach and Jess? Woo Hoo! I love me some Arkie!
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Norcalfella2 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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08-21-07, 10:09 AM (EST)
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81. "RE: Veto Meeting" |
The backdooring has gotten out of control. It is ruining the game.There is an easy solution to all of this for BB9 and beyond that would create a whole new strategy. HOH nominates 3 people instead of 2. Nom's & HOH plus 2 randoms compete in POV for a total of 6 just like it is now. Winner still takes someone off the block only in this scenario there is no replacement (ie backdoor) nominee. Imagine a random winning it and having 3 people begging/dealing to be taken off with the knowledge that the player could do so with no ramifications (ie alliance member being put on as replacement). Much better.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 04:53 PM (EST)
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94. "RE: Veto Meeting" |
Huh. It wouldn't work for the entire season -- numbers problem in the endgame -- but it would definitely make the early stages interesting, and it would create hamstercide as a one-week twist. Definitely an interesting idea.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-20-07, 04:42 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Veto Meeting" |
Oh? Where did they win the right to go? Let me guess -- one of the local soap operas needs some sound effects recorded. Something to do with not having enough crying & whining tracks.
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JoshInSGV 737 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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08-20-07, 05:17 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Veto Meeting" |
Is there any way that Jen could be saved by America's Choice? If America votes to evict Jameka, will Eric be able to manipulate the house to vote out Jameka instead of Jen? I know this is somewhat far-fetched. It's just that Jen is the only one I'm rooting for. Without her, this show is just filled with awful people. This cast is even more vile than Season 6. Ugh!
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MarkP 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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08-20-07, 10:00 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: This is interesting....." |
I would love to see Jen stay but I just can't see it. My only question now is who will Eric blame this time when he has to vote for Jen to stay in the house? I hope this causes a riff with Daddy and dearest because it will be oh so boring watching this planned final 4 fall into place otherwise. I really think Danil and E.D. made yet another in a long line of lousy moves by letting their personal feelings (the crusade against Jen is nothing short of comical) intefere with their game.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-20-07, 11:26 PM (EST)
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65. "I think Jen's timer just hit zero" |
First she was cooking turkey burgers and entertaining the thought of eating them (she's still on slop from the earlier POV competition, she said she'd be on slop for 720 hours, or 30 days...... eating them I think would constitute a penalty nomination, and since she's already nominated a penalty eviction?) This is after she rummaged through her stuff and packed them into some kind of bag/bags/slop bucket (but not her BB8 bag.....) and hid them throughout the house.....and now....... After Jess said something about pouring bleach down the sink to try to stem the tide of the ants' attack, Jen went into the supply room and started destroying ED's cigarette supply! The first carton she opened each pack individually and tore them apart by hand. At this time BB tried calling her into the Diary Room. Then she threw the remaining cartons into a trash can and poured bleach into the trash can!!!!!!!! (If Dick discovers/hears about this in time he might be able to salvage most of his supply since the individual packs are wrapped in cellophane, but if not...... (Shane 2? or will BB replace the damaged goods?)
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-20-07, 11:41 PM (EST)
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67. "hiding is fine, destroying is not." |
If this is truly the case, I think Jen's offically toast............. we shall see.........
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Undertow12345 376 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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08-21-07, 00:36 AM (EST)
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69. "Does anyone else..." |
..find Dicks disgusting language is kind of ruining the show for them. I love a good ripping like Howies tirade but he is so foul..its not entertaining and it should be but...i mean come on dude...some of the things he says are wrong to say...he should be warned. I really want this little punk to get his!!
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Undertow12345 376 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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08-21-07, 00:43 AM (EST)
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70. "penalty nom" |
Jen has a penalty nom..even though she is for sure going home this week...she cannot play for a veto either. She does not care.
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JoshInSGV 737 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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08-21-07, 01:05 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: penalty nom" |
So.... destroying cigarettes deserves a penalty nomination, but dumping tea on someones head while threatening to rape them only gets a slap on the wrist. Hmm... I'm officially disgusted with the producers this season. I'm glad I stopped watching BB since Daniwhore won HOH last Thursday. America's Player and giving D!ck so much slack to do whatever he wants has ruined the show for me. Yuck!
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Snidget 43862 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 01:42 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: penalty nom" |
Are you sure it is for the cigarettes?I thought it was for getting peeved that they were going to replace them and she went and ate a lot of real food when she was supposed to be on slop and that is a penalty nomination for anyone. Generally, if I remember correctly, actions are usually more a problem in criminal court than words. So talking about anything is a different penalty from something like vandalism where you destroy someone elses stuff.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 02:03 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: penalty nom" |
The penalty nom is for the feeding frenzy last night. The destruction of the cigs *might* have been grounds for removal, but since we're in the jury phase, I think they want a full jury of 7 and not have to have America possibly have to vote in the jury twice (once for Eric, and once for Jen.....)
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Undertow12345 376 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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08-21-07, 01:04 AM (EST)
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72. "RE: Apparently the slop ate Jen's brain!" |
No jen is not gone. They would only kick her off if she really hit the guy, even though he dumped tea on her he diodnt get kicked either. I think the only thing I have to look forweard to is gettle ED off the show. We have about a three week ugly time coming here...Zach, Dani Jess and Eric will not put him up...Jameka cannot even try to....and Zach is a puppet. Amber is hopeless. Jameka Amber Zach will go in order and then we can have a game again. Here is the the thing the jury is so far...Dustin and Jen..both will not vote for a Donato..that helps!
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 04:18 AM (EST)
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76. "Small clarification." |
Dick doesn't seem to have burnt Jen on purpose. From what I've read about the fight, she was trying to take a live cigarette away from him.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 01:32 AM (EST)
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74. "The Fallout:" |
1. BB has already replaced at least 3 cartons of ED's cigarettes, and may replace more if needed. (All of ED's cigs are currently hidden in the HoH room, and he's only going to take one cig out of the HoH at a time to smoke.2. Jen is currently eating real food, so if, by some miracle, she survives this cycle, she's automatically nominated for the next cycle/week and can't play in the HoH to prevent it, or play in the POV to remove herself nor can be removed by someone else's POV......... (this might actually be bad news for Jameka...... knowing that they can actually torture Jen for another week and she's automatically gonna be on the block for it, they might decide to get rid of Jameka instead......) 3. All during this, Daniele and Amber are not in the cage (they've already left for whatever trip they won in the POV and they'll be gone for at least the night......) so they're gonna have to be caught up on all this drama.......
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 04:24 AM (EST)
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78. "And who pays the price?" |
It's really starting to sound like it'll be Jameka, because the hamsters are now looking at Jen as a 'We can get rid of her at any time. Any. Time' proposition. Automatically on the block next week and not allowed to play for veto? Then why not use this week to dump Jameka? ...yes, they currently want to put up with Jen's attempts to get around the rulebook for an extra seven days. ...yes, they probably do realize that Jen might be trying additional tricks during that time. ...yes, they're really thinking about voting for Jameka anyway. ...yes, they're actually that dumb. Jameka's pretty much realized it, too. No word on how she expects her deity to save her from this or just how Jen's actions were actually preordained as part of the ineffable annointing of BB's winner, but at least now she knows what she has to pray her way around. Jameka's not happy right now. What a shock. In much lesser news, Zach nearly blew up the microwave by heating foil, and Eric was accused of switching in and out of the cage with his twin.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 04:48 AM (EST)
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79. "Commentary from the tattoo gallery." |
Dick, talking about Jen: 'That's the kind of bitch I normally wind up dating.' So for those of you wondering if this was some sort of misplaced crush... but he does note that kind of relationship is normally over for him by Date #2. Overall, Dick is at the point where he's hugely enjoying himself over the night's events. He's got his ciggies back and Jen's in the deep stuff with no way out, plus he doesn't even have to remotely stand by any apology to her now, so why shouldn't he be having a good time? If anything, this has brought Dick and Eric closer together, as they've been talking and laughing about Jen's actions for a good part of the night. The rats seem to have been studying the Chenbot Handbook Of Hosting: earlier in the night, Dick asked about the rulebook and was told that hiding personal items was legal: destroying was not -- and then the live feeders could hear someone hissing 'Don't tell him!' Dick didn't know his cigarettes had been ruined yet. Eric, who seems to know the rulebook pretty well, has said that BB can't sue Jen if she drops out, but she'll lose everything she's earned to date. (Dick decided this meant the unitard.) So if it's really not about the money for her, there's still a chance that Jen might walk -- but no penalty fee? Sounds kind of dubious. And look at this logic. From Jokers: Zach: "If we know Jen's going home next week, we should throw the HOH." Dick: "So that they can't compete the next week?" Zach: "Yeah." Dick: "I've got it! We throw HOH to Amber so that she can't get it the next week and we send her home. Final five, baby!" Amber as HoH. Migawd... before I spotted that, I was about to post that this would finally be the week for Eric to take HoH, as one of his nominations would be preset and he could pass off any other as a joke... ...and then we get this. Jokers again, their text: 'ED celebrates: "I'm so excited, I have to pee!" (ed note: ED walks off to pee, giggling like a schoolgirl) Zach to himself after ED leaves: "You think you came up with it all on your own. I will take you to the end, then I will kick your ass."'Some night, huh?
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 05:19 AM (EST)
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80. "The flaw in the plan." |
Throw a competition to Amber? Good luck. Yes, she's come in second a time or two, sure, it's possible that she'll go on a streak somewhere, but it's still a lot like trying to throw the Super Bowl to the Texans: you can lie down on the field as much as you want to -- but eventually, someone on their side has to run a step without tripping over your prone body. Good luck with that.And there's another hole in this theory. We know Jen is automatically nominated and out of the Veto competition, but no one's said anything about her being barred from playing for HoH. This may just be something we haven't heard yet, but this is BB: there's a good chance she's still eligible. Jen isn't throwing a competition to Amber. Jen just might pick up the cheese wheel and say 'For my first nomination, I choose -- myself,' then pick someone to be on the block with her... Dick may have thought of this: he's currently the last one awake in the cage, and his reading material of choice is the rulebook. Maybe he's trying to find out just what he's up against.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 03:18 PM (EST)
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90. "In case you're wondering..." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-21-07 AT 03:18 PM (EST)Jen is still eating real food..... She's already eaten some cottage cheese and some grapes today. (Not much, but it's not slop....) ED and Eric are thinking this has pretty much invalidated her win in the POV competition that she promised the 30 days of slop and possibly cost Kail her eviction.......... they're saying if she's gonna keep doing this and not caring then Jameka should be eligible for the next 3 HoH's (if she stays, that is.....)
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 04:32 PM (EST)
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91. "Zach, Zach, Zach....." |
*head shake*The setup: Jessica is making macaroni and cheese (whether it's from the box or from scratch? Joker's not saying.....) Zach says that you gotta put the butter in while the water is boiling! Jessica, being sensible, says that you put the butter in after the macaroni is drained and back in the pot to mix with the cheese. Zach claims he put the butter in first because he likes his noodles soft. *Must.Not.Comment!*
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carmaj0530 41 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-21-07, 04:40 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: Zach, Zach, Zach....." |
The hamsters must cross some vortex when they enter the bb house that sucks all the common sense out of their heads. I thought Amber's lacking vocabulary (mind you I don't know every word in the book but come on) was sad, now this. What's next when to put the shampoo on their hair, before you wet your hair or after. *big sigh*
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 04:46 PM (EST)
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93. "RE: Zach, Zach, Zach....." |
Who woulda thought Jessica is the brainiac of the house?
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 05:12 PM (EST)
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99. "I think BB just tacked on an additional penalty to Jen..." |
A while ago the feeds went to trivia (approximately 90 minutes ago....) for a total of half an hour. During that time there apparently was a house meeting which might've included the producers.......There is now talk that the difference is that when Jen leaves it'll be 6-0 instead of 5-0....... It sounds like Jen just got a penalty vote tacked onto her...... Whether this vote will take place tonight or Thursday hasn't been announced yet.........it's probably still Thursday, but the longer Jen's in the house the more chances for craziness........ BTW, Daniele and Amber haven't returned to the house yet.......
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 05:42 PM (EST)
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105. "RE: I think BB just tacked on an additional penalty to Jen..." |
The big question is 'just about the instant they return, or on Thursday as per usual?' If they want a double-elimination week, they can have it this way -- not the usual plan, but you take what you can get... Let us now imagine what would happen if a Survivor contestant had gone this far afield. The Quit Boat might have to make multiple trips just to retrieve all the pieces.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 05:36 PM (EST)
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104. "Festival of blue swirlies." |
Very hard to piece together what happened in that meeting: every time the hamsters start talking about it, instant toilet flush. Jessica said that if Jen talks to any of them, they could just punch her in the mouth and the worst that would happen was one vote against them. There's been some talk about how this might save Jameka and negates the 'throw HoH to Amber' idea, so maybe the bonus vote is this week only. That's my guess, anyway. Here's the relevant line from Jokers: 'HGs talking about how the consequences are kind of fair, that now Jen will get voted out 6-0 instead of 5-0. And if they hadn't done it this way, Jameka would have had a huge target on her b/c there would have been no point keeping her if they knew they could just get Jen out next week. And how that also wouldn't have been fair to Amber (##### and Zach had talked last night about everyone throwing Amber the HOH next week b/c it would be a wasted HOH b/c Jen would go and then Amber couldn't compete the following week and they'd nominate her then.' Your translation may vary. In other events, Jessica managed a decent practical joke on the rest of the house: with the others scattered, she called out that Jen's picture had just gone grey. That got them moving in a hurry. There may be some discussion going on about the things that were forfeited in the previous veto competition -- if Jen can just go back to food whenever she likes, shouldn't Jameka get her HoH opportunities back? But that's a 'maybe' -- lotsa cutouts and it may just be how I'm reading it. Multiple Jen-jokes going around. DR sessions are now straitjacket fittings. Discussion on Zach, in front of his face, that he got a personality from the bunny suit, possibly because someone called him 'sexy' while he was in it. Or maybe he's been taken over by suit mites. Zach created a reality show two years ago and wants to discuss it with BB producers after the season. He won't discuss it in front of the cameras.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-07, 09:30 PM (EST)
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108. "Apparently the penalty was actually changed....." |
By the sounds of things in the cage right now the penalty nomination for Jen was actually taken off of the board to turn it into the extra vote to evict Jen............ I think that was to prevent the unfair plan of keeping Jen to torture her, throwing the HoH to Amber and basically set up the next 3 evictees to not even get the chance to play to prevent themselves from getting nominated....... (Jen, with the penalty nom, would've probably not have been allowed to compete next week, and then because Amber would've been the outgoing HoH, she couldn't try to save herself the following week......)
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carmaj0530 41 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-22-07, 01:35 PM (EST)
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115. "RE: Getting D/ck thrown off the show" |
I agree 100% leenga. Stop watching if you don't like what is happening. I have yet to see something happen on the show that doesn't happen at some point in life (interactions not challenges etc). The only thing I haven't seen the hamsters do so far, is driving without using turn signals. Once that happens, I'll officially have seen it all IRL.
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abbahammer 70 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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08-22-07, 01:36 PM (EST)
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116. "RE: Getting ##### thrown off the show" |
You are kidding right? It's called reality TV. As long as he doesn't do anything that is illegal...it's fine.Perhaps you should hang out with Amber and have a cry... Man...these are people you do not know. What they say to you is meaningless. I will give an example... If you give the finger to someone for no reason, should they be offended? Really? It means nothing, unless you know the context. In the context of this game, one must expect everything that people are saying are lies and game play. The fact that D1ck is doing this and intimidating people is their own fault. Rule 1, don't trust anyone. Rule 2, don't believe anything anyone says Rule 3, remember...it's a game I wish Shakes were around...he'd clear this up.
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Undertow12345 376 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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08-22-07, 02:34 PM (EST)
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120. "RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the show" |
If you think that it is ever acceptable for a man to call a woman a C*NT..in a game or anywhere...I disagree with you. IMHO some things should not be rewarded. I appreciate your comments however. But Jen is gone tomorrow so maybe we can all watch the feeds without having to endure such classless verbage.
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Snidget 43862 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-22-07, 02:50 PM (EST)
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123. "RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the show" |
Thank you Wayne.If it is in the rule book that that specific word (or other specific wordsh) must never be uttered in the house or you will get a specific punishment then it is within the rights of the producers to dole out whatever the punishment is. Given the language used on the show every season I do not think they care one wit about bad language. I think they probably count on it as that may be why some people pay for the live feeds. To see and hear such sorts of things that are not acceptable in polite society. To toss him out for obeying the rules of the game isn't something that they can do. No matter how many phone calls they get.
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carmaj0530 41 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-22-07, 02:44 PM (EST)
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122. "RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the show" |
If you let yourself be upset by the "words" of others you will be upset alot in life. While I don't find name calling, demeaning words etc acceptable the c*nt word does not offend me. I am a female, and while I don't use it myself to hear it does not bother me. Its sole purpose, as for many other words, is to rile up the target of the word or the situation(which it does), if we didn't acknowledge the "words" they would stop. My opinion as we all have one and are willing to share, listen and offer up ours.
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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08-22-07, 04:57 PM (EST)
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127. "RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the show" |
>>c*nt word does not offend me<<I agree Carmaj -- I actually think the word is kinda funny (tho not my favorite word for it, that would be the name of the mechanic from Dukes of Hazard) I've 'shocked' other women in the past by NOT being horrified by the word...and I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong, I don't go around using it because I realize how strongly alot of people feel about it -- I just don't get how it became so horrifyingly offensive. Rude, foul, dirty cuss-word? Well, yeah. But exponentially more offensive than tw*t, p***y, whatever? Nah. The terms I'm more offended by are g*sh, because it sounds violent, and fish because it implies poor hygiene. (ok, have I crossed major lines & am I about to get warned?)
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carmaj0530 41 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-22-07, 05:11 PM (EST)
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128. "RE: Getting E.D. thrown off the show" |
I agree 100% Tamarama. There are far worse words to use. Its is really a laughable sounding word (not real or something). But as we know, each to our own opinion I guess. I didn't think you needed warned but who am I. I also like Mechanic too , although I've been known to say hootie also (better for mixed company).
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leenga 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-22-07, 02:21 PM (EST)
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119. "Mike Boogie Confirms the Rumor" |
Mike Boogie Confirms the Rumor Chill Town Infiltrates bb8! Last night in the bb house, during a meal of over cooked rice and chili powder less chili, Jen stated that she “did not want to win big brother”, and would be “happy with second place”, when asked what she would do with the $ 500,000 winnings.A strange answer for a woman who at the end of May was sitting on a beach in Bermuda with members of ‘Chill Town’, according to GlobalTV. According to Mike ‘Boogie’ Malin, Big Brother All-Star Winner, Jen Johnson vacationed with both himself and Dr. Will Kirby, in Bermuda, at the end of this past May, and received coaching tips on the game. “I am not saying she will definitely pull it off as there is only so much Chill Town can do from the outside but hopefully she will go a long way," said an optimistic Malin. He went on to say that "She will definitely be Chill Town extended if she follows our coaching tips.” 'Boogie' has managed to follow the new season and already has his favorites, besides Jen, that is. "I really like the gay couple. I think they are going to save the show. Everyone else seems sort of homogenous. The gay couple and the father/ daughter pair will be the sensational aspects of the show” --Jen Johnson's Official Myspace Fansite
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-22-07, 03:54 PM (EST)
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126. "RE: Mike Boogie Confirms the Rumor" |
As Nailbone already noted, this is a fairly old story -- I think it came out a week or two into the season. (Note that Joe & Dustin were both in the house at the time of publication.) And at this point, I think it's pretty safe to say that whatever they tried to teach her didn't stick.
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Undertow12345 376 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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08-22-07, 08:23 PM (EST)
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129. "RE: Mike Boogie Confirms the Rumor" |
Mikes advice of hooking up with anyone who will take you the game, talking dirt about them and laughing at them behind their backs then embarassing them calling them a used w*ore did not stick with Jen! Good for her! I think she tried to play the "Dr. Will I dont care " style but is not bright enough to do it!
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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08-23-07, 11:57 AM (EST)
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130. "RE: Mike Boogie Confirms the Rumor" |
>>is not bright enough to do it!<<BINGO! I think the flashes of gameplay that we saw -- that made us think she knew what she was doing -- THAT was the coaching. The sociopathic personality and the inability to actually pull off anything - That's the bikini bimbo. Tells me she was Mike's idea. Will probably knew right away that she wouldn't be able to do it.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-23-07, 02:18 PM (EST)
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135. "RE: Micro-information on the P10 appearance." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-23-07 AT 02:20 PM (EST)I saw that at the end of the P10 last night...... I'm not surprised that it was someone other than her daughter: 1. We're very close to the time when most school systems are starting up and that kind of trip would probably screw up her sleeping and studying habits........ 2. There's probably an age limit on the relationship helper because of the crazy nature of some of these questions....... ETA: 3. Seeing her daughter would definitely flood the set! I'm a little curious to find out who was Daniele's helper, but if Amber won the showdown, we're not gonna find out unless they show it on BB..........
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frisky 11684 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-23-07, 11:10 PM (EST)
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137. "RE: Micro-information on the P10 appearance." |
When did Amber mention the cousin? I thought it was just "out there," but I didn't think it came from Amber...especially since they aren't allowed to talk about it.
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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08-24-07, 02:17 AM (EST)
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138. "RE: Micro-information on the P10 appearance." |
She mentioned it in the house...now trying to remember specifically...she mentioned it as part of her "prayer" last night, and I think she mentioned it in conversation with Dani too.
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