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" Productions: Semi-Stars Claps & Slaps"
For notes on leg construction, task design, course layout, camera work, and the other elements which go into the actual assembly of the Race. (This is not for commenting on Racer actions unless said actions were directly caused, influenced, or sabotaged by Production.) It's sort of a behind-the-scenes GUFU with occasional positive notes, and it's one thread per season. Unfortunately for most of what casting provided, it's not one course per team per current lifetime, but that's a subject for many other threads. Right now, this isn't about the carp we're stuck with, but the designated sewage path it flows through.

Hold your nose.

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 China Estee 02-24-14 1
   RE: China kidflash212 02-24-14 2
   RE: China PepeLePew13 02-24-14 3
       RE: China kidflash212 02-24-14 4
       RE: China Estee 02-25-14 7
           RE: China PepeLePew13 02-25-14 8
       RE: China Georganna 02-26-14 9
   RE: China jbug 02-24-14 6
       RE: China Molaholic 02-26-14 10
       RE: China kidflash212 02-28-14 11
 RE: Productions: Semi-Stars Claps ... Molaholic 02-24-14 5
 China II Estee 03-03-14 12
   RE: China II Molaholic 03-03-14 13
       RE: China II Colonel Zoiderg 03-21-14 28
 Borneo Estee 03-10-14 14
   RE: Borneo kidflash212 03-10-14 15
   RE: Borneo jbug 03-10-14 16
   RE: Borneo Molaholic 03-10-14 17
   RE: Borneo udg 03-11-14 18
       RE: Borneo PepeLePew13 03-11-14 20
           RE: Borneo newsomewayne 03-11-14 21
   RE: Borneo newsomewayne 03-11-14 19
 (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia Estee 03-17-14 22
   RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia Molaholic 03-17-14 23
       RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia PepeLePew13 03-17-14 24
           RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia Molaholic 03-17-14 26
               RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia Colonel Zoiderg 03-21-14 29
   RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia kidflash212 03-17-14 25
   RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia newsomewayne 03-18-14 27
       RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia newsomewayne 03-24-14 30
 Sri Lanka Estee 03-24-14 31
   RE: Sri Lanka Molaholic 03-24-14 32
   RE: Sri Lanka kidflash212 03-26-14 33
 Sri Lanka II Estee 03-31-14 34
   RE: Sri Lanka II kidflash212 03-31-14 35
   RE: Sri Lanka II moonbaby 03-31-14 36
       RE: Sri Lanka II udg 03-31-14 37
   RE: Sri Lanka II kingfish 03-31-14 38
       RE: Sri Lanka II PepeLePew13 03-31-14 39
   RE: Sri Lanka II Molaholic 03-31-14 40
 Italy Estee 04-14-14 41
   RE: Italy Molaholic 04-14-14 42
   RE: Italy kidflash212 04-14-14 43
       RE: Italy udg 04-14-14 44
           RE: Italy kidflash212 04-15-14 45
   RE: Italy IanQuentin 04-19-14 46
   RE: Italy udg 04-21-14 52
 Italy II Estee 04-21-14 47
   RE: Italy II newsomewayne 04-21-14 48
       good one suzzee 04-23-14 54
   RE: Italy II kidflash212 04-21-14 49
       RE: Italy II featherfish81 04-21-14 50
           RE: Italy II Estee 04-21-14 51
   RE: Italy II Molaholic 04-23-14 53
 Switzerland PepeLePew13 04-27-14 55
   RE: Switzerland Estee 04-28-14 56
   RE: Switzerland kidflash212 04-28-14 57
       RE: Switzerland PepeLePew13 04-28-14 58
           RE: Switzerland kidflash212 04-28-14 59
   RE: Switzerland Molaholic 04-28-14 60
 Spain Estee 05-05-14 61
   RE: Spain PepeLePew13 05-05-14 62
   RE: Spain newsomewayne 05-05-14 63
 RE: Productions: Semi-Stars Claps ... Molaholic 05-05-14 64
   RE: Productions: Semi-Stars Claps ... kingfish 05-05-14 65
   RE: Productions: Semi-Stars Claps ... PsychoKitty 05-05-14 66
 UK (England/Wales) Estee 05-12-14 67
   RE: UK (England/Wales) Molaholic 05-12-14 68
   RE: UK (England/Wales) kidflash212 05-12-14 69
       RE: UK (England/Wales) Molaholic 05-12-14 70
 Las Vegas Estee 05-19-14 71
   RE: Las Vegas Molaholic 05-19-14 72
   RE: Las Vegas MCPorche 05-19-14 73
       RE: Las Vegas IanQuentin 05-19-14 74
       RE: Las Vegas featherfish81 05-19-14 75
   RE: Las Vegas kingfish 05-19-14 76
       RE: Las Vegas Molaholic 05-19-14 77
       RE: Las Vegas featherfish81 05-19-14 78
   RE: Las Vegas kidflash212 05-20-14 79
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02-24-14, 10:22 AM (EST)
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1. "China"
*CLAP* Allowing Mallory to substitute for Bopper: knocking out the full team before the starting line would have been unfair and bringing in backup All-Stars... well, that can go into casting decisions and the subjective putridity therein, but Mark was still able to race and just needed someone to do it with. Giving him a new partner was fair.

(It does bring up the question of just where Mallory was when the call came in, not to mention how quickly she got packed and under contract...)

No Hand Movement Missed opportunity at the starting line, really. If you're racing around between band members like that, why not have them throw a few dozen laterals?

Slap You get one every time you leave from Los Angeles. You left from Los Angeles. Hold still.

Slap We get it. Ford is your primary sponsor. And they like to park at LAX. Did I say you could move?

Clap Good design on the wedding dress task. It was a basic searcher, but a fresh kind of confusion. Can't read the signs, too many of the same shop type in a small area, twisting alleys, even the natives get confused... the sort of task which requires tight focus to finish, and one where the teams couldn't just rely on getting outside help. The difficulty here was evident in the way it equalized the flight arrival times.

It would have been even more fun to have them try a few dresses on before getting the clue, just to see Rail & Noose combust. But you can't have everything.

Slap Pure luck at the ferris tower. When teams get held back or advance on a coin flip, you've done something wrong -- plus yes, heights, fine, now how about a little mine-diving to compensate?

Slap Inferior Roadblock. Again, the fascination with high places doesn't always work, and the flips were too easy to execute. There was no real chance to speed up or slow down here: you arrived, you waited for all the ascent equipment to do its work, you flipped, and you waited for the reverse. Funny outfits did not a challenge make.

Slap Once again, this is not Survivor. An Express Pass is fine. Two is a mistake. Of course, they're in the hands of a team which can't reliably count that high, so maybe we'll get lucky...

No Hand Movement Have you spotted the course element which teams are supposed to memorize for the final challenge?

Have they?

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2. "RE: China"
Hard to find claps when the casting pretty much ruined the season before it started.

Clap - to the editor who left most of Brendon & Rachel's film on the cutting room floor.

Clap - the venues were beautiful. The tower ferris wheel was interesting.

Slap - The Express Pass. As a prize for one team, it might work but the second just encourages alliances. Alliances are for Survivor not The Amazing Race. As a side question - what are the chances of Jet & Cord giving it to anybody but Mark & Mallory or the country singers? Pretty non-existent if you ask me. I'm certainly not holding my breath waiting for Jet to go over to Joey and offer it to him.

Clap - Last All-Retread season started off with teams giving each other way too much help. Glad that hasn't happened so far.



Tribe!

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3. "RE: China"
LAST EDITED ON 02-24-14 AT 11:23 AM (EST)

>(It does bring up the question of just where Mallory was when the
>call came in, not to mention how quickly she got packed and under
>contract...)

I saw on Twitter that Mallory and her partner were the alternate in case any of the teams couldn't go at the start, and her partner had just left for Mexico that day when the call came in that Bopper couldn't go. So, Mallory was locked and loaded in place once the call came.

At least it was Mallory. I could think of dozens of far worse choices to keep around as an alternate.


ETA: "No Hand Movement Have you spotted the course element which teams are supposed to memorize for the final challenge?"

Que? I must have missed that (was in and out dealing with kids for parts of the show).

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4. "RE: China"
I think a Mark & Flo team would have fit right in this season.
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7. "RE: China"
Just noting that for several seasons, the last challenge has always been sorting out something which happened on the course -- greetings at the mat, currency used, hats -- and the teams have desperately been taking notes on everything possible while the Race desperately tries to think of something they won't take notes on.

So something is going on in the background which will have a test later. I just don't know what yet.

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8. "RE: China"
Ah, got it! I initially read it as you having already discovered a potential 'tell' for this season's final challenge.
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9. "RE: China"
I saw on Twitter that Mallory and her partner were the alternate in case any of the teams couldn't go at the start, and her partner had just left for Mexico that day when the call came in that Bopper couldn't go. So, Mallory was locked and loaded in place once the call came.

I've read that Mallory's initial partner for this Season's race was Brook Roberts (of Brook and Claire)

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6. "RE: China"
SLAP
The ferris tower should have had a 'do over' if the flipper did not make the specified number of flips.
I was so hoping that would be the case when the granimal made extra flips.
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10. "RE: China"
The ferris tower should have had a 'do over' if the flipper did not make the specified number of flips.
I was so hoping that would be the case when the granimal made extra flips.

Yes, the cards should have been randomized after a team left the car (win or lose).

Twinnies: "WHAT!!! CAR FOUR HAD THE CLUE!! NOW IT DOESN'T!! AND CAR NINE DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE!!"

Just to bring back those pleasant memories...


Ride, Moley, ride!

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11. "RE: China"
I think the high wire roadblock was chosen hoping to get a Mika level fear of heights freakout.
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5. "RE: Productions: Semi-Stars Claps & Slaps"
SLAP (and as a native this is difficult to say) Yes, the constant start in LA has become downright gruesome.

SLAP Ditto to the Ford product placement. (Didn't they do the CMAX last time? I drive one...)

SLAP FIGHT ON

CLAP Bubble car ferris wheel!

CLAP The first Philiminaiton

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12. "China II"
LAST EDITED ON 03-03-14 AT 04:09 PM (EST)

No Hand Movement Well, on the one hand, they really should have hired a host who knows how to count on his own. On the other, at least he can laugh about his own deficiencies...

(No detriments to the course design or pre-existing bunch points regarding that group arrival. This was just one of those weird things which happens every two dozen seasons or so.)

Mini-Slap For the most part, this is a fairly fit and relatively athletic field of teams -- on up. And even the ones towards the bottom of those ranks can have a pretty high opinion of their capabilities. This means that when you give them a physical task which could be passed in a few minutes by the skilled or lucky, then make the second option into something sedentary which will require a set amount of time, all the weight is going to wind up on one end of the see-saw. Plan accordingly.

Clap Truly outstanding Roadblock. Skill and patience mattered, it rewarded both intellectual and physical ability (manipulation of small parts), it was possible to make up time, the environment was well-suited, and we learned both that the Globetrotters have picked up at least one other tongue and Flight Time is afraid of children. Well done.

Honestly, the only detriment here is all the people you just convinced that they too can put it together without ever reading the directions.

Clap Well, that was one of the most unique clue handouts we've ever seen...

Clap Allowing different means of transport in this location allows teams to dodge the chance of That One Taxi Driver. They can't always be in areas with subways, buses, and the like -- but let them use the things when available.

No Hand Movement The camera & sound teams are not supposed to interfere with their team in any way -- including pointing out mistakes.

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13. "RE: China II"
Honestly, the only detriment here is all the people you just convinced that they do can put it together without ever reading the directions.

Obviously, they already knew that insert 选项卡中 into 选项卡中.


Capn2Patch siggiefest Twenty Ten

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28. "RE: China II"
>Obviously, they already knew that insert
>选项卡中 into 选项卡中.

I'm confused. Shouldn't 标签 go into 插槽?

Yes, yes, I know, 这就是她说.

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14. "Borneo"
Slap The usual annoyance flight-based creation of Front Pack and Back Group, with no chance for the later to catch up. No fault for the SimulMat-Arrival at the end of the last leg creating that first-to-worst chance based on taxis and traffic: you probably (justifiably) felt there would be more separation leaving the Pit Stop. But still... under normal circumstances, this would be a no-position-shift leg: the rich stay rich and the poor fight over the scraps.

Slap Was that the Shortest Leg Ever? Without any way to get a sense of travel times other than sun angles, figuring for a moderate run down the river... can we safely estimate they all wrapped up the active part of that run in a couple of hours? When teams not using Fast Forwards or Express Passes are on their way to the Pit Stop thirty minutes into the episode, it almost makes it feel like we're watching a partial real-time cut -- and not a good one. There just wasn't much happening here, or many places for it to happen at all.

No Hand Movement And given how close you were, if you really wanted something else to do... well, the original Survivor filming site was just a TAR skip away. Imagine the activities! Take a trip to the mud volcano! Dance nude on the beach! Revisit the last place MB was ever sort of remotely relevant!

Inter-continuity mocking for the win. Pity you passed it up.

Slap For an all-returnees season, you pretty much have to know who could be on the course well before it starts -- and so the tasks have to fit all of them. Overriding a Roadblock choice because you didn't design it to accommodate one Racer is on you. And if that team lasts long enough for a partner to start running out of Roadblocks, it could come back to haunt everyone.

Clap We usually don't mention not seeing the two-person camera/sound teams because we're used to their being invisible and spotting them is the special occasion. But given all the chaos on the river, having them stay out of sight throughout deserves a special notice.

Slap Overly basic Roadblock with no real challenge to it unless, say, you happened to be afraid of heights, torrents, or, just because it could never happen, waterslides.

No Hand Movement If they don't know what yellow and red means by now, it's not your fault.

Slap The comedy of taking to the water in a craft not up to the stresses of a bathtub is one thing and I'm sure the contracts mean all surviving relatives pay you a nickel for each death, but this was the time to have a judge at the Detour branch inspecting each effort: no going out on the river without a minimum level of quality. It didn't happen -- and the price for leaving it out could have been high.

Clap The blowgun Detour branch was a good design with a decent amount of challenge to it and a chance to pick up time for the skilled and fast-learning. However, you may now expect a thousand protest letters from the truly stupid, accompanied by the formation of People For The Ethical Treatment Of Stuffed Animals.

micro-slap Never let Phil try out any American accent ever again.

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15. "RE: Borneo"
Another Slap - For the opposite of a bunching point (separation point?). Having six teams be completely safe at the very start of the race and leaving three teams with no opportunity to catch up just didn't feel like fair play.

Clap - and some eye bleach for the production person who had the unfortunate job of adding the blur to Rachel's split on the water.

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16. "RE: Borneo"
SLAP - DOUBLE SLAP:
The rafting was very dangerous.
Flimsy rafts on gently flowing water? ok
on fast water with curves in the river? no way.
Production should be thanking their lucky stars that no one was hurt.
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SLAP, SLAP & RESLAP (make this one Moe Howard worthy) The aforementioned Philimination Point at the departure mat.

Slap Why I was hoping for "Enchanted Tiki Room" theme music for the blow-gun task?

Clap Once again, some fantabulous scenery.

Slap Basically a dull episode.


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18. "RE: Borneo"
CLAP - At first, I thought it was a slap not to have a judge to ensure that the rafts were water-worthy before allowing contestants to use them in the water. But as the episode progressed, I just got angry at the number of contestants who didn't think about the fact that they were using the rafts to get downstream while building them. By the end of the episode, I was hoping for a Darwin experience. If you need a judge to tell you that having pieces falling off of your raft is a bad thing, the problem isn't the absence of the judge. Also, you don't deserve to win $1 million.
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20. "RE: Borneo"
Ditto, I was perfectly fine with having no judge as it's not that hard to build a raft with the materials they were given and it's a reward for those who take the time to do it properly to be able to get down the river quicker than other teams.

Plus, this challenge was clearly designed to drown the Twinnies if they had made it that far.

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21. "RE: Borneo"
Leg 1 Results Ointment...

Meet thy fly.

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19. "RE: Borneo"
Clap Pack separation bunch points. Unless you're Brenchel, it rewards those who do well in the previous leg and it forces those who just made it past elimination the last leg to step up their game with less margin for error. Case in point, Joey and Meghan not keeping their cab kept them from racing head to head with the other two teams.

Clap Quality time with the locals in the middle of the race. I always like seeing teams interact with locals beyond the "Thanks for putting up with us, now give me my clue."

Slap Sequin Salvation. This leg must have been run on a Wednesday.

no hand movement slapThe dancers at the beginning of the detour - why? I don't recall any explanation of what they were doing or why they would be there except as props.

no hand movement Detour switching. Not sure what the ruling here was. Did Dave/Conner have to continue with their food delivery? Could they not have just done the blow-gun challenge. It didn't affect them in the long run, but it could have.

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22. "(fifteen seconds in) Malaysia"
Slap Microleg #2: Roadblock, flight, Detour, Pit Stop -- thirty minutes into the episode. Given the current time constraints being shown in leg design, I'm expecting next week's Speed Bump to be the riotous return of coin tossing.

*CLAP* Oh dear gawds, now that was a Helltour. The drink mixing required precision lineup, careful angling, total control, and not a single muscle could twitch at any time. The dance mixing required the fortitude to avoid poking out your own eardrums before diving off the balcony just in case it hadn't been enough. Two branches, no survivors.

(It also saves you from the 'no chances to catch up or advance' Slap, because skill (or lack thereof) largely equalized the pack.)

Clap I was totally expecting the first thing seen in Malaysia to be an Hours Of Operation sign. However, that's also one of the reasons I'm frustrated with that first Slap: when you're setting up the potential for an All Night Long leg, stretch it out.

Clap Adjusting the height of the flag on the Roadblock: it's one of those little touches that can mean so much -- suffering.

No hand movement I can't place blame for foot injuries until we know if bare feet were a requirement for being on the bamboo.

No Hand Movement I'm torn between 'It's nice to know that the producers considered Luke's sexuality to be so unimportant that they could go through two seasons without editing it in' and '..this is his third time on the course and we're just finding this out?'

Slap Okay, just what was Luke's option for switching Detour branches: complete memorization of all light and movement patterns? But on the bright side, he didn't have to put up with...

Slap ...that music. Congratulations to the Race producers on finally finding something worse than the Three Latin Backbeats Of Doom. I nearly turned off the episode half a dozen times in an attempt to escape. Breaking the speakers was also an option. Tracking down the composers and feeding them to sharks isn't off the menu yet.

Watch for a ratings drop in the second half-hour. Also a death toll.

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23. "RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia"
Clap Agreed, the Helltour from Hell was brilliant.

Slap Sure, we got a frustration-count for Jet/Cord at the jump, but howsabout a hint on the time? 47-something jumps without another team joining the fun had to be some kind of record.

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Yeah, we did get a time of how long Brenchel were doing the Master Mix part of the detour (3 hours and 12 minutes) so it would have been nice to get a sense of the times for the others at each of the other stops (the bamboo trampoline one and the Mix Master one).

Agree on the **CLAP** for the difficulty level of this leg - and an extra **CLAP** for the teams (other than Luke's meltdown) holding it together surprisingly well as a collective group. THANK DOG the Twinnies weren't there or every single person there in the audience would have left with copiously-bleeding ears and brain hemorrhages from bashing their heads in.

ETA - And I'm surprised that Luke's sexuality was news - I was fully aware of it during his first season and I'd think it was pretty obvious from the gaydar pinging loudly.

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26. "RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia"
ETA -- Luke's reveal -- considering the fact that my own personal gaydar has a rating of slightly above 0.000000001 efficiency, those things are even more of a non-issue. I do congratulate him on his personal growth in the "dealing with adversity" area, though.
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29. "RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia"
Re: Luke's sexuality - this is the third time Margie and Luke have been on the Race. The "deaf" angle has been milked to death, so the next item on the list was "gay." If we're going with "overcoming adversity," next on the list would be "total lack of social skills," and after that, "the time he pooped himself on the school bus in middle school." I hope this team totally runs their course before we get that far.
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25. "RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia"
Clap - Agree that the Detours were well designed. There was actually a chance for teams to move up or down by mastering a skill quickly. That's been missing.

Slap - Would have liked some clarification if the Roadblock had to be performed barefoot.

Clap - The scenery was great - the Petronas Towers were very impressive.

Slap - The tasks so far this season seem to be playing to the strengths of some teams (The cowpies and the Globetrotters). Where are the puzzle/brain power tasks that have been their weakness in the past?



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27. "RE: (fifteen seconds in) Malaysia"
clap excellent detours. Frustration and cause for division between teammates in either challenge. Lots of confusion from the loud surroundings and flashing lights. No clear path of least resistance.

no hand movement I hope we're not flying out again first thing. We should see more of a country than a night skyline.

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slap no hand movement I hope we're not flying out again first thing. We should see more of a country than a night skyline
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31. "Sri Lanka"
No Hand Movement Except for cases where the producers prebook flights and the teams are just racing to see who claims which tickets, air travel arrangements are not under show control. I'm going to presume that first flight simply ran out of seats (and remember: each team actually books four to accommodate their crew) until proven otherwise. However, I'm certain some part of the Internet is already claiming Rachel & Brendon got a trip on Uchenna Air.

Slap Apparently there is no such thing as a twenty-four hour religion.

Clap The dance was fairly interesting and, contrary to first visual impressions, didn't present an impossible degree of difficulty. As for counting off every step aloud -- blame the Globetrotters. A lot. And try not to let that spread into future seasons. And by 'that', I mean 'the Globetrotters'.

Slap Fishing in unfamiliar waters with never-seen equipment = Pure Luck-Based Task.

Slap Let's face it: if we ever hear about a Race fatality on the course, our first collective thought is going to be anti-American attack and the second will be "Putt-putt?"

(Third is to blame Obama.)

Slap The sweatshop Roadblock was one of the times when we really needed a clock on the wall -- or screen. Based on Racer complaints, it may have required a couple of hours. But we don't know. There's no way to find out just how much time Brenchel consumed in the silkscreening before finding everyone was pretty much still there. A sense of temporal passage helps with this sort of thing -- always. Maybe there was no clock drama because we all knew who was in last, but... viewers want to know. At least two of them.


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32. "RE: Sri Lanka"
SLAP Agreed, that whole "standby vs layover" story line reeked.

SLAP Really, people -- if you are in any way aware of how global economies operate, why give us a glammed-up version of a sweatshop? Smiling overseer (who reminded me a bit of Joe Stalin) notwithstanding, my skin crawled.

SLAP Any word on who is responsible for cleaning those putt-putts after unknowing Yankee passengers get the sh!t scared out of them?

CLAP More kudos to Luke for his growth in taking a truly svcky situation with maturity and levelheadedness.

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33. "RE: Sri Lanka"
No Hand Movement - I'd read that the Kuala Lumpur leg was a last minute change of plans, so possibly the plane issues related to that. I just hate legs with no suspense.

Slap - A mostly boring leg.

Are we gonna see an all male final five?

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34. "Sri Lanka II"
Slap "Do you know how to get to the Hours Of Operation sign?"

!Slap! "And the train station ticket counter?" Was there any real need to regroup the teams twice within the first segment? We didn't spend any real time at the first clue pickup site: if the camera wanted us to appreciate something, the lingering didn't happen. Make everyone use their Travel Modes Of Impending Death twice and deplete leg funds... at best, that was all it did. Beyond wasting episode time, which was done rather nicely. If you're into that sort of thing.

Slap I'd make it a capslock triple, but I can't know how long the Roadblock took to perform during any test runs. Maybe there was a chance some of the pilot efforts had it go over the time required for the next train to arrive -- and depart. Still, I have to believe the producers at least knew what the rail schedule looked like and realized there was a strong chance that when every team arrived together, they would leave the same way. The front half of this episode was the classic Whole Bunch Of Bunching. We haven't seen that in a while. It was a welcome absence. Take it away.

No Hand Movement Seriously: Read. The. @#$%ing. Clue.

Clap Okay, admit it: you put that entire paper Detour branch together in the hopes that Mallory would get to achieve the trifecta, right?

Clap Elephants! So many elephants! (Try not to think about why the water was brown.)

No Hand Movement I won't try to judge the Detour branches against each other because every team on the paper end made errors -- but when all the teams on one side leave before every last one on the other, it can feel like the imbalance came from more than racer actions.

No Hand Movement What was with the wise man intersect towards the end of the leg? Giving teams a moment for introspection seldom works. Creating a musical clue and setting up a task to come didn't happen. It just came across as a 'must fill leg with something' moment in a segment which already had those. So... what?

Slap "Sorry about equalizing you again and again and again. How about an NEL to render any racing you actually did even more pointless?"


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35. "RE: Sri Lanka II"
No Hand Movement - Not sure about the Detour that could only be performed by four of the teams. Isn't the Detour supposed to be a choice between two tasks? With all the bunching, production had to know most team would be there at around the same time.

No Hand Movement - Has the U-turn been shelved for this Race? Seems like we would normally have seen one by now. I would usually clap for that but this particular season seems headed for an all male showdown in the final four teams and a U-turn might shake things up.

Slap - Remember when they kept bringing Boston Rob back over and over again until he finally won in a Survivor season tailor made for him? I'm sensing that with the Cowpies.



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Slap: Dutch Museum? Huh. With stone things inside in interesting shapes, and in Sri Lanka! What's that all about? We'll never know.

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37. "RE: Sri Lanka II"
"During the reign of the Rajasinghe II, Dutch explorers arrived on the island. In 1638, the king signed a treaty with the Dutch East India Company to get rid of the Portuguese who ruled most of the coastal areas. The following Dutch–Portuguese War resulted in a Dutch victory, with Colombo falling into Dutch hands by 1656. The Dutch remained in the areas they had captured, thereby violating the treaty they had signed in 1638. An ethnic group named Burgher people emerged in Sri Lankan society as a result of Dutch rule."

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38. "RE: Sri Lanka II"
Slap to the Forehead: "A Gas up the three wheeler challenge"? Smelled like a desperate last minute substitute challenge.

Clap: Watching Rachael during the "The Gas up the three wheeler challenge"

Hand over ears: Listening to Rachael "Shout Green Green Green Green" ad nauseum.

Clap: Watching the trained elephants work.

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39. "RE: Sri Lanka II"
>Smelled like a desperate last minute substitute challenge.

I believe that this was a forced change in schedule as the Philippines was supposed to be a two-leg stop (read about it long ago on Reality Fan Forum) but there was a massive typhoon last November during filming, so the original schedule may have been something like China-China-Malaysia-Philippines-Philippines-Sri Lanka, which became China-China-Malaysia-Malaysia-Sri Lanka-Sri Lanka instead.

Not sure if they've ever had 3 consecutive stops with two legs each.

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40. "RE: Sri Lanka II"
Clap Anything with elephants earns an automatic clap.

SLAP No, make that SHARP KICK TO THE NADS Virtually everything else in the episode, particularly the obvious demonic possession achieved by the twinnies.

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41. "Italy"
Slap Yes, the best part of the Race is when they're all on the same plane together. The team with the Speed Bump lurking ahead, who really could have used the time bonus potentially available from a selection of flights, certainly must feel that way.

No Hand Movement The kindness/intellects of strangers. I can't entirely fault the contestants for the group blank on Roman numerals: it isn't necessarily something you retain. (I would have had a shot at it, but I think I would have needed a minute to bring back the subtraction technique.) But every player's first resort upon being confronted with a question is now 'find Internet access' followed by 'find local'. At some point, a clue has to read 'on your own' or the whole race will come down to connection bars and data plan available.

In this episode, it also backfired. 'Figure out where you're going'? Oh, the cabbies will know. But that was a clue designed to encourage questioning locals and asking to borrow phones. Working it out on your own wasn't going to happen.

There's a balance point here. The producers need to find it. Quickly.

Slap It says something about the local they picked to play the gladiator that by the end, I was hoping one of the Racers would stab him.

Clap I initially viewed the chariot branch of the Detour as a giant wimpout. Remote-controlled toys. A few rocks to steer around. Gee, don't hit the waving paper in the center. And then the other teams showed up, the collisions began, little plastic drivers were dragged along behind without mercy, and it became very clear that we were watching Toy Story: Death Race 2014.

No Hand Movement Was the Speed Bump actually a deterrent for once, or were the other teams just taking that much time at the Detour branches? (And once again: keep asking locals until you get it right.)

Clap But getting the clue on the spot after repeating it, as opposed to a required return to the sign? Fair enough.

Slap I usually don't get on the camera work as a negative, but it's hard to mess up Rome -- and what we got was a bunch of buildings. Buildings which didn't get a lot of camera love to begin with. It was like hanging around the Universal set version of the city.

Clap Costumes for everyone! (Now make them continue the course in them.)

Slap We need a rule which creates a thirty-minute time penalty every time you share an answer. Yesterday.

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42. "RE: Italy"
DOUBLE CLAP You said it -- Toy Story: Death Race 2014

SLAP Surely EPBvM could have found a actors that looked more like Gregory Peck & Audrey Hepburn. (Granted, the Hepburn was closer.)

DITTO Repeating the aforementioned slap/clap nominations for clue sharing and costumes.



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Clap - for the clue that did not just say "Fly to Rome". Make them figure some stuff out.

Slap - I hate answer sharing. I cannot for the life of me understand why other teams always give The Globetrotters the answer. Why help the most physically gifted team on the tasks that could actually eliminate them and give you a better chance at winning? I've yet to see them reciprocate in any way.

Slap - Crappy edit. I knew within the first five minutes that John & Jessica were history, they have barely been on and they suddenly have a lengthy confessional about being the only team ever eliminated with an Express Pass (seems like the producers think that fact is a lot more interesting than any viewer does).

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44. "RE: Italy"
>Clap - for the clue that
>did not just say "Fly
>to Rome".

Or, as the Closed Captioning called it, "Roam."


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Roam if you want to
Roam around the world


Now I'll have that earworm stuck in my head all day.

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46. "RE: Italy"
Clap I actually liked the big burly gladiator they were using in the end. He played his part well. They're not supposed to be nice.

No Hand Movement About the Roadblock, I would be fine with a general rule that while on a Roadblock, the racer cannot accept intentional help from anyone, not even other racers. Also, the racer must not attempt to cheat off of another racer's work. It would be a judgement call in a lot of race, almost requiring a ref of some sort, but I think it's worth it. And as far as looking up roman numeral meanings, they can use the internet. They're not shy about using it anyway.

As far as sharing answers, once Leo/Jamal and FT/BE almost got eliminated after answer sharing, I bet that's the last of that.

Slap It's been too long since they had to drive themselves anywhere.

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Slap: Last week detour option is driving x times around a track before the music stops. This week, detour option is riding x times around a track before the music stops.
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47. "Italy II"
Clap The camera is visibly in love with Italy, and no one's arguing the camera's time. (Until you hit the CNN Commentary section. They'll argue anything.)

Clap And nowhere was a bunch point or Hours Of Operation sign to be found -- while the course design still allowed chances to catch up or pass here and there, depending on how Racer actions worked out.

No Hand Movement You can't anticipate Racer idiocy -- or at least, the total degree of it. The challenge of the woodshop Detour branch was to make the donkey model without benefit of example piece. The teams were told the toy would have to carry the firewood: asking 'in what?' becomes their problem. Yes, the carrying pieces looked like discarded crates, and there's an element of cruelty to that. But they have to ask 'what are these doing here?' on their own -- especially in a task where it's said every piece has to be used and there's no casual decorations on the floor.

Slap There was a real chance of getting hurt on the donkey course. And that was just for the donkeys.

Clap Minimal Ford commercial for once.

No Hand Movement Couldn't run an extension cord for the video U-Turn sign?

Slap The Roadblock was very much a 'to the satisfaction of the judge' task. Go ahead, try to master medieval illuminated calligraphy in two hours. Let me know how you do and how much of your hair you didn't tear out afterwards. Achieving a perfect match was a joke from the instant the camera reached them. This was degree of acceptable error.

No Hand Movement Real monks? We may never know.

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48. "RE: Italy II"
Clap More Italian countryside? Yes, please.

Slap Saving throw U-turn station. A U-turned team should not be allowed to assign the second U-turn to another team until they have completed both tasks.

Clap Read-the-clue challenges. All the pieces given to you will be used to complete your donkey.

Slap Not showing the mirror Brendon was praying in front of while Rachel did her colligraphy.

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54. "good one"
Slap Not showing the mirror Brendon was praying in front of while Rachel did her colligraphy.

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49. "RE: Italy II"
Clap - The scenery. It was beautiful. I enjoy legs where the surroundings encourage me to visit the place.

Slap - I don't know if this is a slap for the Roadblock design or for the editing. It seemed as if only Rachel's calligraphy was rejected and everyone else got it on the first try. Subjective judging hints at producer manipulation.

Clap - Big Easy on a donkey. I wasn't sure at first if it was even possible for a donkey to be able to carry a guy of his size around fast enough.

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50. "RE: Italy II"
Slap - I don't know if this is a slap for the Roadblock design or for the editing. It seemed as if only Rachel's calligraphy was rejected and everyone else got it on the first try. Subjective judging hints at producer manipulation.

Yeah, that was odd, especially since she was the most confident about it. On the other hand, I know Jet, at least, restarted on his own without bothering to take it to the judge, so maybe others did too.

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51. "RE: Italy II"
The kind edit would be establishing how hard the Roadblock was. 'She has some training in this and she couldn't make it on the first attempt'.

Any bets on the kind edit?

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53. "RE: Italy II"
CLAP Yes, the Italian countryside --

CLAP Build-a-donkey sans example. Brilliant.

CLAP Monks in cowboy hats. Priceless.

HIGH FIVE ladder needed version The Native Greeter and Big Easy. Beyond Priceless.

SLAP What, no backstory on Geppetto?

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Sorry for jumping the queue, Estee... but didn't want to wait.

!SLAP! to Dave and Connor for their continued whinging. You got U-turned. So what? It's a compliment that a team saw you as a big threat so suck it up and move on. Stop acting so entitled that being of a certain age should make you exempt from being U-turned.

*slaps Dave again, just because*

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56. "RE: Switzerland"
Clap Oh, to be in the Alps when it's colder than the vacuum where the Accidental Alliance's self-awareness used to be.

!Slap! I won't fault the bunch point at the train station, as J&C made it obvious that a combination of departure time and road ineptitude would let teams miss the first train. But the overnight wait at the statue was completely unnecessary: every one of those tasks could have been done at night with lit paths. All it did was give the edit time for more 'The Evil Of Green! And not us!' footage. Which was already 68% of the episode.

No hand movement I would have appreciated a long, slow pan over the model for the proper hotel room arrangement before the task began.

Clap I was worried about the gondola taking over most of the Roadblock and turning it into the usual 'go to high place, come back down' clue grab. As it turned out, the snow, ice, and weight of the milk turned it into an impromptu strength-endurance issue. (Plus no one thought to just slide the cans.)

No hand movement Was putting the clue sign just around the corner an attempt to play with Racer IQs or pure dumb luck?

No hand movement Well, if you've got to have a Ford commercial...

Slap This was not the time for a non-elimination leg.

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57. "RE: Switzerland"
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Slap - I was perfectly happy with my disdain for Rachel & Brendan, then this TAR season comes along and I actually feel some sympathy for them. And Dave & Connor were my default choice to win since I felt no dislike for them originally. Now Dave and goes and has a Luke level crybaby meltdown. Give the million to charity.

CLAP - The scenery has been spectacular most of this season. Love that.

Slap - Non-Elimination? Now?

Slap - The tunneling drill question was a big failure.


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58. "RE: Switzerland"

>And Dave & Connor were my default choice to
>win since I felt no dislike for them originally. Now
>Dave and goes and has a Luke level crybaby meltdown.
>Give the million to charity.

I can't help but wonder if Dave and Connor are getting this edit because they didn't win and the editors wanted to overplay this to give viewers a reason to cheer when someone else wins the race over these two? Dave's constant bleatings could easily have been edited out if they won so we'd continue to like them.

I feel like the editing is setting us up for either an Afghanimal or Brenchel win by making the 'good guys' look petty.

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59. "RE: Switzerland"
Possibly, the edit of Leo & Jamal has done a complete 180. They don't even seem like the same team that was on their first Race. Maybe the U-turn next week will bring back the old Leo & Jamal.


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60. "RE: Switzerland"
CLAP Ditto to the magnificent Swiss scenery.

CLAP The look on Übermaid Helga's face when she got her first hug.

SLAP Lame "ancient artifact" non-problem.

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61. "Spain"
Slap After a run of dazzling scenery, we reached a spot which had some of it -- and the camera couldn't be bothered to pay attention.

No Hand Movement There's been a weird emphasis on manual dexterity and physical coordination this season.

Clap Well, at least you had the brains not to give them actual human beings for those first crucial tests of their shaving skills. Minus a few points for not putting Rachel in a situation where she would have been afraid of getting her own head shaved (again), though.

Slap If Racers are suffering potential game-ending injuries during a Detour branch, then it's a bad design. Period. The hired thugs were too enthusiastic, the padding was inadequate for the lower body, and there was no mercy rule in sight. It got to the point where some viewers might have expected the final punchline to be a real bull.

Slap Not a good positioning for a double U-turn, both for how deep into the course it's appearing and potentially combining it with a speed bump. (Also, is the video board still out of order?)

No Hand Movement Well, you tried to double-bunch-point. Foiled by the airline schedules...

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62. "RE: Spain"
Agree on the !!SLAP!! for the camerawork - I've been to some of the places in this leg and it's some of the most interesting scenic locations of all the places that have been visited this season ... but you'd never know it from the very cursory looks at each of the stops.

Half !Slap! and half Clap! for the detour - it was rough, really rough, but I didn't want it to be too easy for the guys in particular as some (Cowboys) were physically stronger than other teams (Dave/Connor, Brenchel). A pity the Globetrotters weren't still in the race then, it'd have been interesting to see how Big Easy would have dealt with the hired thugs. Also a good thing that Margie/Luke were no longer in the race as just wait until Luke gets pounded by these guys...

!UltraSlap! for the positioning of the U-turn. Completely unfair, it should only be in the first half or middle part of the race. No shot for the U-turned team(s) to make up any ground.

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63. "RE: Spain"
Clap Running with the Ballz. Awesome television. More, more, more.

Slap Paired with Flamenco dancing? YAWN!

Slap Wiping shaving cream off a balloon? How hard is it to hold a blade flat to keep the sharp edge off the surface?

Clap Editing: Rachel's finish line follies.

Slap Editing: No multiple angle, slo-mo replay.

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64. "RE: Productions: Semi-Stars Claps & Slaps"
LAST EDITED ON 05-05-14 AT 06:06 PM (EST)

Reiterating the SLAP about the violence imposed during the ballz task. Really, there should have been something better.

That being said, CLAP to the bullz who took out Brenchel,

CLAP The Barber/Judge immediately snuffing the balloon when time ran out. No need for dithering.

sorry 'bout the misplaced title marker.

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65. "RE: Productions: Semi-Stars Claps & Slaps"
Slap at the fates that be for not having Big Easy in the bull run.
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66. "RE: Productions: Semi-Stars Claps & Slaps"
CLAP! Running with the ballz/bulls. I thought it was hilarious! Especially when both Rachel and Brendan went a$$ over teakettle a few times. And I loved the growling. But it went on too long and I am worried that Jamal really got hurt.

SLAP! The Flamenco challenge was so mundane. They didn't even have to do a true flamenco step. The girls looked pretty but that's all they had to do. No challenge at all.

CLAP! The Barbershop challenge was really fun! And the barbers were hilarious and unrelenting.

SLAP! I agree with you on overlooking the scenery. Seville is a beautiful place and we didn't see it.

SLAP! The placement on the U turn WAS way too deep in the challenge. The Cowboys didn't even have a chance. Usually it's way more equitable.

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67. "UK (England/Wales)"
Clap It's a small touch, but having personally-sized clothing waiting at every task which requires it, along with name-emblazoned items for the Liverpool task, is one of the little things which makes the Race hum along.

Slap So we can make a Beatles pilgrimage in Germany, but not Liverpool?

No Hand Movement Speaking. Welsh. Sure. And why don't we mix in a little Irish Gaelic while we're at it, then translate into Russian before reverse-engineering the entire thing into written Hebrew? I'm all for task sadism, but -- Welsh? Really? Welsh?

Clap The aqueduct is very clearly a no U-Turn zone. Because ain't no one turning the boat around on that thing. Ever.

No Hand Movement Not reading the clue is, as pretty much always, the fault of the Racers who did not read the clue. There are exceptions based in poor wording, but in this case, the boot sizes required were spelled out in advance. (And yes, I acknowledge it was a trap.)

Clap No Hours Of Operation sign at the stadium. Given that the first team arrived in the dark, I was dreading an instant bunch point.

No Hand Movement Racers and guns: not always perfect together. In this case, the rules were established and everyone followed them. In other seasons, you could have reasonably expected multiple murder attempts. (Hi, Caite!)

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68. "RE: UK (England/Wales)"
SLAP Was it just me, or was that goal tender guilty of a little points-shaving for a couple of the players? (Dave and the girls in particular).

Yes, i realize that if he gave it his all every shot, the aforementioned players would be there for eons.

CLAP Having the two roadblocks within sight (notice I avoided the term "range") of each other. Nice bit of drama.

SLAP Reiterating the non-Beatles failure.

HIGH FIVE of course, it could be more of EPBvM's evil editing The preview that the finish line will be reached via parachute? and at night? WOW.

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69. "RE: UK (England/Wales)"
Clap - Castles. Great location.

Clap - No Beatles reference. There has to be more to Liverpool than an overrated band. Glad TAR didn't feel the need to mention them.

Slap - If the goaltenders are going to so obviously fake it, why bother having the task?

Clap - No moaning about the U-turn from Dave. Although he is still carping about being old. Someone shove a boot in his mouth.

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70. "RE: UK (England/Wales)"
Clap - No Beatles reference. There has to be more to Liverpool than an overrated band. Glad TAR didn't feel the need to mention them.

>GASP<

But then, as they say, "it takes all kinds"

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71. "Las Vegas"
Slap We are now on a streak of final legs which don't seem to allow any opportunities for getting ahead or catching up: the order you leave the airport in is the order you finish. No major changes for team shuffling = no drama = enjoy your Friday night banishment.

Clap The organized crime drivers were cheesy, but in a good way.

Slap Magic trick? Luck-based task. You hit the key quickly or you didn't.

Clap On the other hand, David Copperfield, so other than the whole 'messing up the Race' bit, who cares?

Slap Okay, again: get over your fascination with high places. There are so many things to do in Las Vegas at night -- most of which the locals wouldn't even notice -- and you go up a hotel and change light bulbs? And the skydive? Visually fun, sure. But guess what? Falling speed is a constant. So much for any race to the mat. You seemed determined to take any real competition and drama out of the last leg. Why?

No Hand Movement The Hometown Curse strikes again -- twice.

Slap Note the time when the finish line approach began. Then note how much episode was left.

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72. "RE: Las Vegas"
SLAP Yes, most-non-dramatic finale ever. Compounded by the return of the Über-whiner who shall not be named.

CLAP David Copperfield. Agreed messing up the race svcked, but a cool illusion nonetheless.

SLAP Looked like they played fast-and-loose with rules regarding the detour -- getting the keys out section.

No Hand Movement I got nothing different from our hostess-with-the mostess.


On the other hand (taking a brief break from the aforementioned innertness) -- I'm feeling an urge to go to Vegas and see Copperfield sometime soon.

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73. "RE: Las Vegas"
>Slap We are now on
>a streak of final legs
>which don't seem to allow
>any opportunities for getting ahead
>or catching up: the
>order you leave the airport
>in is the order you
>finish. No major changes
>for team shuffling = no
>drama = enjoy your Friday
>night banishment.

I'd have to disagree with that, in a way.

After all...the order they left the airport was: Dave and Connor, the Girls, Brenchel.

The order they left the Neon Graveyard was Dave and Connor, Brenchel, The Girls.

The order they arrived at the Mirage was The Girls, Dave and Connor, Brenchel.

So, the order definitely got shifted during the leg...

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74. "RE: Las Vegas"
There were some changes in placement during the leg.

But I wish the final leg would mix up the transportation modes a bit, including the occasional travel on foot.

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75. "RE: Las Vegas"
Yeah, but almost all of the shifts were due to cab rides. Only once did a team arrive somewhere behind another one and pass, and it was a shift on the order of 10 minutes, it seemed (5 min behind to 5 min ahead).

This is the US - you should have to drive yourself, and if you get a ticket for speeding, you incur a 30 min penalty, in addition to however long it takes to actually issue the ticket.

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76. "RE: Las Vegas"
Slap: Agree with the things to do in Las Vegas.

Gambling; Hit ten slot payoffs? Hit three blackjacks? Double up at hold-em?

Entertainment; Join a chorus line? Perform a magic trick? Train a tiger? Sing Danke Schoen"? (No wait, they did the Wayne Newton thing already.)

Screwing in lightbulbs was pretty lame.

Production Slap: I'd like to have seen how they managed the lock pick so easily. An untrained individual picking a normal lock? That's actualy pretty hard to do, and should have caused one or more of the teams to pass the others.

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77. "RE: Las Vegas"
Production Slap: I'd like to have seen how they managed the lock pick so easily. An untrained individual picking a normal lock? That's actualy pretty hard to do, and should have caused one or more of the teams to pass the others.

Without revealing any actual shamanistic secrets, I would expect that by the time we saw the "lock picking" bit the illusion had shifted from amateur to professional.

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78. "RE: Las Vegas"
I was thinking that about the lock, too. But on the other hand, David Copperfield was standing next to their partner the entire time, so there couldn't have been much opportunity to pass - it was more of a complete the ritual type task.
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79. "RE: Las Vegas"
Slap - As has been said before, a poor final leg overall.

Slap - The David Copperfield Roadblock was a disaster for me. Because of the necessity to have a crew of people assist with the illusion, this was just a performance not a task. Someone had to let them out of the box, tell them to put on the fire gear, etc. As noted, Copperfield was with each team, so what would have happened if two teams found the key within seconds of each other? One team would have lost time just to create the "illusion"

Clap - To Brendon. Lost in Rachel's incessant whining was the fact that Brendon actually has a sense of responsibility about procreating. Waiting to finish school or be financially capable of supporting a child is a very responsible attitude, one we see less and less of in this society.

Slap - Shouldn't there be some rule if you get the wrong answer, as Dave & Connor did on the light bulbs, that you actually have to count again? At least some time penalty like five minutes before you can guess again?



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80. "RE: Las Vegas"
I'll give Brendon that. But if he really wanted to be responsible, he would get his sperm tube snipped and save the world from future Brenchels.
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