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"TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results / Wk6 Entry"

No Bunching?

Those episodes of The Amazing Race where they don't have any bunching can be rough on those teams in the back of the pack. On the one hand, it's annoying how the previous week's results completely evaporate when they do have bunching. On the other hand, it really makes it difficult to catch up when you're already behind.

Such is the case with Katie & Rachel. They seemed to do pretty decent this past week, but they couldn't overcome their time deficit.

Week 5 Results
1st place - Nat/Kat (2.1x)
2nd place - Gary/Mallory (1.6x)
3rd place - Jill/Thomas (1.4x)
4th place - Michael/Kevin (1.3x)
5th place - Brook/Claire (.8x)
6th place - Nick/Vicki (.8x)
7th place - Chad/Stephanie (.4x)
8th place - Katie/Rachel (0x)

Risk & Reward

There was a good deal of discussion regarding the bonus game this past week, with me presenting the odds of winning as 1-in-10, with cahaya arguing it was much steeper, 1-in-28. Well, the results have spoken, and indeed I was correct.

Why? Because cahaya got the bonus correct, thereby proving my point about the odds! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Seriously, though, it was still a tough game. Aside from cahaya, only mikey got it correct. The majority of players were really close, missing only two answers... So most everyone was at least in the ballpark. Those who did get the bonus correct really reaped a nice bump in the standings.

The Greatest Gainer Award goes to newcomer Nume, who climbed 15 ranks overall with an All-In Nat/Kat bet. You're really racking up the hardware so far, huh?

The Perfect Bet Award goes to cahaya (4.4x), who had a monster of a week, thanks to that difficult bonus game. I'm starting to suspect a little gamesmanship, there, you know. Run in there and scare everyone off the bonus game, and then score points off of it yourself? I'm calling the Gaming Commission.

Leaderboard
1. Yogi - 282
2. vennui - 181
3. louislam - 134
4. cahaya - 120
5. ARNutz - 116
6. popeave - 99
7. mikey - 98
8. Belle Book - 80
9. Jims02 - 73
10. flipxycd - 72
11. kidflash212 - 67
12. Molaholic - 66
13. CTgirl - 66
14. sarah1234 - 53
15. Ontheroadagain - 53
16. Weez - 46
17. michel - 38
18. Snidget - 36
19. Georjanna - 32
20. beau_30 - 26
21. Nume - 24
22. MzTee - 23
23. KwietOne - 22
24. HistoryDetective - 22
25. Starshine - 21
26. chiubakka - 19
27. bbenzenberg - 19
28. shilfiell - 19
29. Deshawnator22 - 18
30. samboohoo - 18
31. jbenz - 14
32. FFantasyFX - 12
33. 5cats - 11
34. IanQuentin - 10
35. kduck - 10
36. Element King - 9
37. esquire - 7
38. vince3 - 5
39. taffnic - 5

Yogi is yet again in the top spot. For those still trailing behind, remember that the Casino Game is a marathon and not a sprint. If Yogi's up by 4x going into the final weeks, then you can send all the letters to my Complaint Department you want.

Week 6 Payout Table
1st place - 2x
2nd place - 1.5x
3rd place - 1.4x
4th place - 1.1x
5th place - .7x
6th place - .3x
7th place - 0x

Another non-symmetrical Payout Table. I don't know why I don't try them more often.

Bonus Game - It's PAT!

Like the sun rising in the morning, there is one thing you can count on in the TAR Casino Game. And that's the fact that we'll play the PAT Bonus Game sometime during the season.

This week players may wager on which team they think will be the PAT of the week, or the Painfully Average Team. It's the team that finishes right smack in the middle of the pack, which would be 4th place this week.

This is a separate bet from your regular wager, and you may only wager on one team for the PAT Bonus Game. It's an All-Or-Nothing bet too. So, if the team you pick finishes 4th, you win... But if they place anywhere else, you lose the bet. All PAT bets will be subject to the following Payout Table.

Bonus Payout Table
Correct Answer - 7x
Incorrect Answer - 0x

Max Bet - 13 points

7x is a pretty nice swing in points, so this could be a good opportunity to move up in the ranks.

TAR17 Teams Remaining
Brook/Claire
Chad/Stephenie (+0.3)
Gary/Mallory
Jill/Thomas
Michael/Kevin (+0.2)
Nat/Kat
Nick/Vicki (+0.1)

Good luck!


For those worried about the bonus game after last week's mathfest, I can assure you this week's is a 1-in-7 chance.

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 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... KwietOne 10-28-10 1
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... vince3 10-28-10 2
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... kidflash212 10-28-10 3
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Belle Book 10-28-10 4
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... bbenzenberg 10-28-10 5
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... flipxcyd 10-28-10 6
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... taffnic 10-28-10 7
   RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... vince3 10-29-10 8
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... MzTee 10-29-10 9
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Nume 10-29-10 10
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... ARnutz 10-29-10 11
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... cahaya 10-30-10 12
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Starshine 10-30-10 13
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Weez 10-30-10 14
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... samboohoo 10-30-10 15
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Jims02 10-30-10 16
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Molaholic 10-31-10 17
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Ontheroadagain 10-31-10 18
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... popeave 10-31-10 19
   RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Jims02 10-31-10 20
       RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... popeave 10-31-10 24
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... FFantasyFX 10-31-10 21
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... chiubakka 10-31-10 22
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... shilfiell 10-31-10 23
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... louislam 10-31-10 25
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Element King 10-31-10 26
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Deshawnator22 10-31-10 27
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... beau_30 10-31-10 28
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Snidget 10-31-10 29
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... CTgirl 10-31-10 30
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Yogi 10-31-10 31
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... 5cats 10-31-10 32
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... Georjanna 10-31-10 33
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... vennui 10-31-10 34
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... IanQuentin 10-31-10 35
 RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... michel 10-31-10 36
   RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results... CTgirl 11-01-10 37

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LAST EDITED ON 10-31-10 AT 03:55 PM (EST)

20 Jill/Thomas

2 PAT on Chad/Steph

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With only 5 points remaining, it probably makes more sense for me to solely go for the bonus games than the regular games...

With that said: PAT, all 5 points, Jill/Thomas

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32 on Jill & Thomas
25 on Nick & Vicki


PAT
10 on Gary & Mallory as the PAT


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40 points on Jill & Thomas
& 40 points on Nat & Kat.


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19 to start. Just trying to get above 20 points!

Brooke & Claire - 13
Michael & Kevin - 4

PAT Bonus
Chad & Stephanie - 2

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59 Jill/Thomas

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PAT:Nick/Vicki-5


courtesy of Cap'n2patch


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At least one of us won't see the next week... probably both of us, the way things have been going...
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Brook n Claire 23pts

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14 points on Brook/Claire for regular bet, 10 points on Nick/Vicki as PAT.
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103 on Brook/Claire

PAT - 13 on Nick/Vicki

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12. "RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results / Wk6 Entry"
Wow! (thud!) What a stroke of luck! For the bonus, I took teams from the previous week 1st and 8th and bet against them getting 3rd and 6th, along with 2nd & 7th not getting 4th and 5th and then swapping positions. By sheer luck it won *ching! ching!* What was good about the bonus was that there were hundreds of good answers out of many thousands, and as you said, almost everybody had a reasonably close shot at it.

Ok, this week, the straight up 1 in 7 (max 13) bet is on Michael & Kevin as the PAT and the remainder (107 of 120) is on Nat/Kat.

*Discretely flashes TAR Gaming Commission Actuary ID card*

Sir, you do know the odds, although we have no clue how these teams will do!

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11 on Nat and Kat

10 on Gary and Mallory

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32 - Jill/Thomas

PAT - 13 on Nat/Kat

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10 on Brook & Claire

8 on Nick/Vicki as the PAT.


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Gotta post early, because I'll be on the road tomorrow.

73 points to spend.

60 points - Brook/Claire

PAT
13 points - Nick/Vicki

Might be sticking my neck out a little this week, but we'll see what happens. Almost went with Michael/Kevin for the regular bet, but talked myself out of it.


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12. Molaholic - 66


What a couple of weeks for me...

I'm staying away from PAT right now as I'm sure I'll end up getting tookas-bit.

Continuing the Prime theme:

53 Jims on the Docs
13 Jims on Michael & Kevin

Wish me luck!

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15. Ontheroadagain - 53
Have no idea how I got all they way up to 53

25 on Nat/Kat
25 on Jill/Thomas

PAT -- 3 on Nick/Vicki

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6. popeave - 99

I still like Gary and Mallory. Let's go with:

90 on Gary and Mallory
9 on Chad and Stephenie

Jims02 - question about how you figure the three week rolling average for the loser bonus: do you use the payout for the team's position in the table, or do you use the payout that the team actually paid out, which may include a loser bonus already? For example, Nick and Vicki finished sixth last episode, and that position's payout was 0.6x. But because they had a loser bonus of +0.2, they actually paid 0.8x. So which did you use when calculating their current loser bonus, 0.6 or 0.8?

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So which did you use when calculating their current loser bonus, 0.6 or 0.8?

Good question. In that example, I use the .6x payout.

My reasoning was that using the Loser Bonuses to calculate future Loser Bonuses would compound the payouts too much. Also, I wanted to measure their basic performance over the past few weeks, so it seemed like it made more sense to not use the boosted results. I also round-up and round-down the averages to the nearest tenth.


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thanks! that's what I figured. makes sense to me.
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Wagers:

3 points on Chad/Stephanie
3 points on Brook/Claire

PAT Bonus: 6 points on Jill/Thomas

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chiubakka 19 pts

15 pts Jill/Thomas

PAT bonus game:
Michael/Kevin

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19 points to start:

8 points Nat/Kat
3 points Gary/Mallory

PAT = 3 points Micheal/Kevin

5 points banked.

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3. louislam - 134

50 on Brook/Claire
45 on Jill/Thomas
15 on Chad/Stephenie (+0.3)
14 on Nat/Kat

Bonus Game - PAT
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PAT 13 Brooke & Claire

Rest on Nat & Kat.

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30-Nat/Kat

6- PAT for Michael and Kevin

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35 points Brooke/Claire
15 points Michael/Kevin
10 points on Chad/Stephanie

6 points on Nat/Kat PAT


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Brook/Clair x 100

Bonus

PAT x 13 on Jill/Thomas

Bank the rest..

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Stay with the Docs = 8

PAT = Michael/Kevin (+0.2)3 pts

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With a staggering (literally) thirty-two points available ...

I'll put 20 of them on Gary and Mallory

and

in the PAT Bonus Game, I'll wager the remaining 12 on Brook and Claire.

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34. "RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results / Wk6 Entry"

125 Brooke Clare
40 Chad and Stephanie

13 pat Micheal Kevin

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35. "RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results / Wk6 Entry"

7 points on Chad/Stephanie

3 points on Gary/Mallory for PAT.

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36. "RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results / Wk6 Entry"
17. michel - 38

28 points - Nat/Kat

PAT: 10 points Jill/Thomas

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37. "RE: TAR17 Casino Game - Wk5 Results / Wk6 Entry"
Too bad you didn't have those switched!
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