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"Next weeks promos"
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1. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
O.K.,what's going on here? In caps 9 and 10 Lex has a red buff around his left arm.In cap 18 Rob has a green buff across his left leg,then,in cap 20 Rob has a red buff on his right arm apparently during the trivia challenge in which you don't see Amber. Last,but not least in cap 22 down in the bottom left corner you see what could be a bit of a red buff on Jerri. I think that ol' MB is up to his snaky ways again.
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03-25-04, 09:23 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
I think it's hilarious that they have the shot of Robb choking Clay.
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03-25-04, 02:22 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
oh yay, a trivia challenge, how exciting </sarcasm>
looks like a trivia from survivors past. ho hum.and the wording doesn't sound like any type of switch we've seen before, but it's prolly just typical overhype 
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03-25-04, 02:24 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Probably misdirection showing us Jerri all happy and Rob worried by the word LOSE.Also in the line-up there doesn't seem to be a pattern to the places they are standing. Maybe they had to draw a number. In #9 and #10 it does look like Lex has a bright red buff. It does look like Rob has a green buff or something over his leg in #18. The reshuffling must happen after the trivia game since they are sitting with their origianl tribes still...but wait, didn't it say if they lost they went home? Interesting! Let the spoiling begin! Glad the recap is over!
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03-25-04, 02:37 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Lex-Kathy-Jerri still on the same tribe after the switch? in the Red-buff Lex cap, they are gathered in a circle together, which I assume would only happen AFTER they had reassembled (or were reassembling) into new tribes. And we can assume Amber is with them (pretty obviously separated from Rawb). Is she the ONLY person taht switches tribes to even out at 5-5?Note that in the "Chapera" challenge caps, we see all but Amber, and everyone but Rawb is deliberating, while he ahs his hands to his face. May his "next move" be trying to throw a challenge to protect Amber who is on the other tribe? And will it work? (ie is his "pained" expression an act (or a true showing of his incompetence in any matter intelligence or memory related) at losing? or is he upset taht his tribe is doing well despite him? and if they lose but they can tell what Rawb is doing, could he be the target?)
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03-25-04, 06:44 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 06:45 AM (EST)Why are you assuming that they reshuffle into 5 by 5 tribes? In S4 (?), there was a switch when the tribes were 8 and 5, and the new tribes ended up 8 and 5. So couldn't it end up 6 and 4?? If so, Lex, Kathy, Jerri, Amber and who and who; other side - Rob, Tom, and who and who? Although I will admit I can't make heads or tails out of the order of these vidcaps, and I agree with someone who thinks MB might be playing with us with colors??
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03-25-04, 03:32 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Dang it, I skip out of the previews to watch the final AI results, and I miss this. A few questions
Whose face is that in the corner? It's female, but is it Kathy? Amber? It almost looks like Jenna to me... 
Where is Rupert at this point, because that looks like Big Tom next to him. 
Does this shot seem to match this one? If so, if you look at the backgrounds, as I posted before, Rob is likely standing on the Mogo Mogo mat. 
I know we've all seen the green bandanna, but what camp is this?
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Markopolo100 218 desperate attention whore postings
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03-25-04, 05:20 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Just to be clear:In this pic with Chapera members 
Rob and Jenna's buffs close up and brightened
ROB
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Markopolo100 218 desperate attention whore postings
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03-25-04, 05:31 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Here's a pic I don't get:What the heck is to the right of Rob in front? A light? 
It is definitely INSIDE the picture. It's DEFINITELY NOT a CBS promo overlay or something like that. What the heck is it?
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03-25-04, 05:34 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
 This probably explains why Rob seems to be at MogoMogo. All 10 of them are "past" the mat with no buffs on. They drop their buffs and then line up to draw (?) Strange order though.
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Markopolo100 218 desperate attention whore postings
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03-25-04, 05:50 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 05:50 AM (EST)>
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>This probably explains why Rob seems
>to be at MogoMogo.
>All 10 of them are
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>They drop their buffs and then
>line up to draw (?)
> Strange order though.
Amber, Jenna, Alicia, Kathy, Rupert, Shii Ann, Jerri, Tom, Rob and Lex Jerri and Shii Ann are in GREEN
Rob's looks Red. If you watch it frame-by-frame, it looks like 4 or 5 of the Survivors are TAKING OFF THEIR BUFFS. Amber, Jenna, Rupert, Rob and Lex are taking off their buffs. That is weird, because you would think they would have already gotten new buffs to be in the positions they are in. I am more confused.
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katethegreat 207 desperate attention whore postings
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03-25-04, 06:51 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Glad I'm not the only one!Excluding this cap, I would have thought: trivia challenge is pre-swap, then meet up, remove buffs, new buffs - swap, the IC. But the trivia challenge is the IC?? So are we seeing the "new" teams right before our eyes?? But they are the same teams! Except for the where's Amber question. Above, someone asked about the face in the Lex, Jerri, Shii Ann picture. My pick is Kathy.
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03-25-04, 07:42 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 08:26 AM (EST)I am confused too but I do believe the clip that Marko has is really strange but is it showing us the tribes? I do believe that the swap is going to make the tribes 6-4, as it is currently. I am just going to throw this out there...what if they are in order of the tribes in this pic: 
From right to left you would have Lex, Rob, Tom, Jerri, Shii Ann, and Rupert. The other tribe would consist of Kathy, Alicia, Jenna, and Amber. If I were Amber...I would think I had been screwed as well! ETA: Even if you went from left to right: Tribe 1: Amber, Jenna, Alicia, Kathy, Rupert and Shii Tribe 2: Jerri, Tom, Rob, and Lex Either way, I could see how Amber would think she had been given the shaft!
 
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03-25-04, 09:00 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 09:03 AM (EST)Concerning the line of Survivors: Here they are in sequence and it does appear that they are taking off their buffs:
Now, it is a weird line up and perhaps it could be the order of the new tribes....they could be Amber/Jenna/Alicia/Kathy/Rupert/Shii on Chappy and Jerri/Tom/Rob/Lex on Mogo....or as Vols suggested, Amber/Jenna/Alicia/Kathy on one tribe and Rupert/Shii/Jerri/Tom/Rob/Lex on the other tribe or it could be split right down the middle with Amber/Jenna/Alicia/Kathy/Rupert on one tribe, while Shii/Jerri/Tom/Rob/Lex on the other....if the split is the latter, with 5/5 split, I would think that Tom/Rob would feel the most screwed...... This line up is an intentional line up IMO, and they are lined up to the right of the two mats, so this sequence had to have occured well after we hear Jiffy saying, "drop your buffs" to the tribes when they have arrived on their mats....I don't know how it is related to drawing from the urn. This pic is of Rupert standing next to Tom
Are these pictures of Robfadda crying??? and what is on his back, some kind of guaze....it's not the frayed end of his Chappy necklace is it, looks to big to be that? Has he been hurt? and is he in pain?
Concerning Robfadda on the tree with the green buff on his leg(??), Here are a few pics from Chappy to compare, could Alicia be sitting on this same tree, but not facing the front of it, but straddling it?
During the previews I was lead to believe that the IC was going to be the trivia contest, and it does appear from the vidcaps that they are indeed playing together as original teams, sans Amber....but look at how all of the guys(except Rupert) are responding physically to this, they all are putting their hands over their faces:
Even Tom has his hands over his mouth too.
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03-25-04, 09:39 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 10:59 AM (EST)I think that picutres of the tribes in the wooded area is not the trivia challenge. Rob is shirtless on the beach, and he has his shirt on in the wooded picture.
I think the pictures of them in the wooded area is the reward challenge, where they get to see videos of family members.
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03-25-04, 01:44 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
The last three pictures, two of Chapera with heads together and Rob's hands on his face, suggest to me that they are all putting their heads together to come up with an answer to a trivia questions. Everyone looks like they are thinking really hard.Another picture that I believe supports this is the picture where Jerri has her glasses on and she is looking over her left should at Shii Ann who appears to be writing something on a piece of paper. Could she be the scribe for their team writing the teams answer to a trivia question? Lex and Kathy appear to be looking over Shii Ann's shoulder too to see what she is writing. Just my thoughts I could be wrong.
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03-25-04, 06:53 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
The Jerri laughing pic is a recycled clip from when she had the confessional after Colby's boot.In 22 that is definately Kathy leaning over Shii Ann's shoulder. 
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03-25-04, 08:58 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
That's what I was wondering; I hesitated in specifying that I see tattoos there because of the visibility problem as well as my recollection of past torch out pictures  But, yes, my first thought was as yours. And yes, we have noticed the Lex with red and Rob with green; there also appears to be a Jerri in MM with a bit of red on her chest which are all seemingly confusing right now lol 
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03-25-04, 09:17 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Though it could pass for a tatooed arm, doesn't it seem a tad for and out of focus? Usually, the tribemember is right there, just off to the side of the torch. This "arm" seems a little too thin/small to be right next to it. but maybe Lex just lost a ton of weight. It could be, but I'm guessing our minds are just messing with us.
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03-25-04, 12:45 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 12:54 PM (EST)I've been lurking for a loooong time and finally had the urge to chime in. I'm thinking two things on this one:
1) Our minds really ARE messing with us -or- 2) As far fetched as this might be, that very well is Lex's left arm. Why does it seem so far back and out of focus? Perhaps he's sitting on end of the upper bench at TC, which started with Lex and 9 other people sitting along side of him. Just a thought I'd throw out there. Edited to sound more gramatically correct.
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03-25-04, 09:36 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: Next weeks promos-face and eye?" |
Could this be a small piece of someone's face and eye?If so in relation to the torch you would assume it would have to be Amber, SA, Jenna or Rob as the others are either too-tall, too bearded, wrong skin tone, or too frizzy haired. If I had to pick from those it could be Id say it looks most like Amber.
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Crash Thompson Jr 63 desperate attention whore postings
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03-25-04, 09:39 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Next weeks promos-face and eye?" |
I think I may be looking at teh wrong thing. I'm looking in the bg, faded, something that could pass for an arm. I never noticed the top right til now! That looks like something allright, but from that angle, could it be someone's eye? I'm not sure...
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03-25-04, 08:26 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
 Does that appear to be a Red buff on Lex's arm?
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03-25-04, 09:20 AM (EST)
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21. "Robfadda= Wrath of God?!?" |
If we accept the tribes remain essentially the same but with Amber now in the "old MM", could SA's comment refer to Rob's possible reaction to them getting rid of Amber? SA does love the sarcasm and hyperbole. Although I didnt see the obligatory eye-roll in the vid-cap.Might link up well with all these "anguished" shots of Rob... trying to subtley throw the IC, with an eye to getting rid of one of his "secondary" allys?
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03-25-04, 11:03 AM (EST)
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40. "RE: Robfadda= Wrath of God?!?" |
>If we accept the tribes remain
>essentially the same but with
>Amber now in the "old
>MM", could SA's comment refer
>to Rob's possible reaction to
>them getting rid of Amber? i could see SA saying that about Rob. but unless Amber says something to MM about her and Rob, would they even know about Romber??? if not, then what the heck is SA talking about?
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03-25-04, 11:20 AM (EST)
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42. "RE: Robfadda= Wrath of God?!?" |
unless Amber says something to MM about her and Rob, would they even know about Romber???Kathy could have told them. ---
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03-25-04, 01:13 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Robfadda= Wrath of God?!?" |
Isnt there a teaser about "am interchange between opposing tribemates gets noticed"
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FrogPrincess 76 desperate attention whore postings
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03-25-04, 01:36 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Robfadda= Wrath of God?!?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 03:16 PM (EST)Yeah ... i've mentioned that on another board. just a little hand hold or extra long hug could get people suspicious .... 
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03-25-04, 02:20 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: Robfadda= Wrath of God?!?" |
just a thought after seeing the promo maybe rob says something to shiann like vote off Amber and you'll pay later hence her comment about the wrath of God will come down on us.
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03-25-04, 09:21 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Not sure--maybe someone with better eyes can tell--but is Rob also holding a red buff in his hand?
Can't tell in this cap, but on my tv it looked like Rob had a red buff on his arm and Jenna had a green buff as a tube.
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03-25-04, 09:23 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 09:23 AM (EST)After watching last night's promo over and over (I'm starting to dislike spoiling because I have a bad feeling about this one) the voice-over says the trivia challenge is? the IC. So by looking at the one tribe we can see clearly sitting together, we have Rob-Tom-Jenna-Alicia-Rupert. Chapera has obviously stayed together. Could this mean that Amber has gone over to the Mogos? She is the only one we don't see anywhere in any of the IC previews. Ah yes, an Apprentice "even up the tribes" move (Blecchhh). So now the tribes look like this: Chapera
Rob
Tom
Rupert
Jenna
Alicia MogoMogo
Lex
Kathy
ShiiAnn
Jerri
Amber This also means that Lex is officially the luckiest Survivor ever, as he is on a tribe with 4 women!!! N E ways..... Does Rob want to throw the challenge? Save Amber? She is obviously the lame duck over at MogoMogo to vote out. This would definitely lead to tension at his own camp as no one wants to go home. And even though Alicia is the next obvious, we could see a backlash against Rob. So if spoilers are to be believed and Jerri does go, then Amber is playing one hell of a game. If she's on a tribe with those other 4, and gets the girls to vote out Jerri, even Lex to vote out Jerri, then I think she will deserve a lot of credit. I think a reputation is riding on the line over the Jerri boot.
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03-26-04, 04:04 PM (EST)
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107. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Not sure if someone else suggested this or not (only read about 3/4 of the way down before the idea struck me). What if they make them pick new buffs but keep the "teams" the same. That is to say, the Chapera, as we know them now, all live on Chapera's island and same for Mogo Mogo. The difference is that there's a mix of Chappys and Mogos on each island. For instance, perhaps Rob DOES get a green buff...he'd have to compete and live with the Chaperas but he would technically be a Mogo. As such he'd be immune from a Chapera loss IC vote off and Vice versa for any Mogos that end up with Red buff. Essentially they'd be able to choose to throw a challenge or not, thus sending "their team (not tribe)" to TC. They'd also be witnesses pre-jury. I know it's far-fetched but it may explain mixed buff colors.It'd be like: Chapera
Tom (red)
Alicia (red)
Rob (green)
Jenna (red)
Rupert (red) Mogo Mogo
Lex (red)
Kathy (green)
Shii Ann (green)
Amber (green)
Jerri (green)
Just a quick guess...
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03-27-04, 10:52 AM (EST)
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111. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
If this were to happen, how would a chapera or mogo loss be determined.
"he'd have to compete and live with the Chaperas but he would technically be a Mogo. As such he'd be immune from a Chapera loss IC vote off and Vice versa for any Mogos that end up with Red buff"
This would be pointless, because there would be no drive for any of them to do well. Because even if the mogos win, the chaperas now on the mogo team would be screwed. And then how would the other tribe come into it, bc the chaperas on that tribe would have to go to TC as well. In theory it sounds interesting, but I think it's impossible with logistics.
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03-25-04, 09:29 AM (EST)
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25. "Sometimes I wish we had a picture board..." |
Someplace where we could all physically move the pictures around and talk about them. Anyway, here's what I'm seeing, and my preliminary predictions based thereon. (I haven't seen the actual promo or recrap yet. They air here tomorrow as usual.)First, we have the pre-RC (I'm ASSuming), pre-buff-switch pictures of the Happy Chappies painting each other.
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2:  They show up on the beach for the buff switch.
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3:  Then, they're all lined up with a voice over of Kathy saying, "I'd say were merging."
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Why are they standing in THAT order?
Ambuh - Jenna - Alicia - Kathy - Rupert - Shii Ann - Jerri - Tom - Rob - Lex
Are they standing with their new buff-mates? My first guess is that this is before they've picked their new buffs, and Jeff told them to shuffle around and not stand clumped Chapera/Mogo. We have no actual pictures of an RC. Do we have another winner take all IC? Or is the buff switch twist enough that they don't find it necessary to spend the valuable promo time on something as mundane as a RC? We do, apparently, have IC pictures, however. It appears that the IC is a trivia challenged covering previous seasons of Survivor. The voice over says, "Plus, gather your friends as the survivors play the ultimate trivia challenge. Win? ... stay in the game. Lose ? go home."
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Unnumbered:  Next, we have two pictures of Rob, potentially from the IC. His clothing and the background appear right, but there's a dark green something (tree trunk?) behind him which I don't see in the other IC pics. The accompanying voice over states, "...will drive one castaway to do the unbelievable."
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16:  And, two pictures of Rupert, which are also potentially from the IC. Again, clothing and background appear right. The shoulder to his left (our right) could be Rob.
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12: I'm not including the montage pictures that indicate that the IC quiz involves previous seasons. I've also left out the happy, clapping Jerri shot that is obviously recycled from Colby's boot. That leaves these five pictures.
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This is thrown in with the beach shots/buff switch location shots, but in those other pictures, Kathy is wearing her hat, not her buff, on her head. I'm assuming this is just a clip from a previous episode thrown in there, but could it indicate that Kathy keeps her green buff? That buff looks awefully clean! 9:
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Lex appears to have a red buff on his wrist, and he's standing with Kathy and Jerri. Kathy has her hat on as in the buff switch pics above. Rob with a green buff. Can we figure out which camp site he's at?
18: And, Shii Ann has a clean, green buff here.
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Shii Ann: The wrath of god will come down upon us. ---
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03-25-04, 01:34 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: Sometimes I wish we had a picture board..." |
>Why are they standing in THAT
>order? >Are they standing with their new
>buff-mates? My first guess is
>that this is before they've
>picked their new buffs, and
>Jeff told them to shuffle
>around and not stand clumped
>Chapera/Mogo. Alternatively, maybe Jeff has been playing along with the competitors' presumption that being told to remove their buffs means "merge." So he lets them continue to think that, and accordingly they naturally shuffle about a bit when told to form a new line away from the tribe mats (being told to step away from the tribe mats again underscores the idea that this is a merge). Then he surprises them with an urn full of red and green buffs again.
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30. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 09:58 AM (EST)CBS WEBSITE CLUES: -The All-Stars gather for a Challenge, only to be hit with another twist that turns the game upside down. -The turn of events makes one unsuspecting castaway feel powerless. -A quick interchange between two castaways on opposing tribes attracts attention. Interchange = Rob and Amber? Dictionary says interchange is to switch places, but I don't think that's what it means here. I'm thinking it's more of "exchange" though not in the negative sense.
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31. "My two cents- sleeping with the enemy meets tribal reshuffle" |
I am going to ring in with my two cents here, I got an idea watching the promo last night and after having looked at these caps.The tribes go to the RC thinking possible merge, Chappy is all happy in tribal paints. They are all told to drop their buffs, they step off their mats into the picture of them shown standing, are they in random order? For my speculation that doesn't matter. Here is what I think, they all draw new buffs, teams to stay at the 6/4 numbers. Lex gets red, Rob gets green, Shii Ann gets green, , Amber red, Jenna L red, and the others it's just too hard to tell at this point. They play a reward challenge as the new reshuffled tribes. They go on back to their camp, not sure how long they will stay in these new tribes but feeling out the new players and possibly talking strategy and forming new alliances. Here is the twist: They arrive at IC as reshuffled Chappy's and Mogo's believing that they are going to be competing against each other, but lo and behold, they only have the new buff colors to determine where they live, but they are still in their old tribes. They must compete in the IC (the trivia challenge) as original Mogo's vs Chappy's, hence the pictures we see of them in the group sitting looking like they are thinking of the answers to the questions. The losing tribe has to go to tribal council...but in buff color only. So say the Mogo's win IC, the newly reshuffled red tribe would attend tribal council. So if you were a Mogo that got switched to red, then you may want to throw the challenge and send green to TC, or vice versa. That would fit in with the fact that it isn't just a normal shuffle, and until they got to IC they may have been swiftly forming new alliances or spilling the beans, etc. Plus it sure would put alot of pressure on players during IC, imagine winning the challenge but having to go to TC anyway?
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33. "RE: My two cents- sleeping with the enemy meets tribal reshuffle" |
I like that idea, and could explain why Lex would say "This is just wierd."
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38. "I was envisioning something similar!" |
I think we need to start a new thread to discuss the switch or whatever.I had pictured something like this. Both tribes show up for an expected RC.
Jeff: Drop your buffs, and draw a new one. Your new buff will determine where you'll be sleeping tonight. A day or two later, the tribes show up for the IC.
Jeff: Shii Ann, what's been going on the past few days?
Shii Ann: Our new tribe has been getting along great.
Jeff: New tribe? I didn't say anything about new tribes. You're still the same ol' Mogo Mogo and Chapera tribes; some of you are just sleeping with the enemy.
Shii Ann: Doh! (Again.) I think which ever tribe loses the IC will go to TC, then go back to the split beaches. So, if Mogo loses, Lex will go to TC with Kathy, Jerri and Shii Ann, then go back to the Chapera beach after TC (unless he gets voted out.) ---
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39. "RE: My two cents- sleeping with the enemy meets tribal reshuffle" |
KOI really like this idea. With the caps with the "New" buffs--it appears: Rob:Green (original red)
Shii: Green (original green)
Kathy: Green (original green-from seemingly new green buff in vcap 8) Lex: red (original green)
Jerri: red (original green)
Jenna: red (original red)
Amber: red (original red) Therefore, the movers thus far appear to be Rob, Lex and Jerri If you look further in caps-we see the men except for Rupert distressed in the caps, therefore, Tom may possibly also now be a mover and is now Green (original Red) Therefore Alicia and Rupert remain red and live at Chappy. So we have a trivia challenge that pits these clubs: CHAPPY Rob (now green)
Tom (now green)
Jenna (still red)
Rupert (still red)
Alica (still red)
Amber (still Red--This could explain her screwed comment-her core alliance of Tom and Rob are now green) vs. MM Lex (now red)
Jerri (now red)
Shii (still green)
Kathy (still green)
From the preview, Rob seems to be the one making the bold move of possibly throwing the challenge. If he throws it and Chappys lose, he sends his original team (minus him and Tom) with Amber to TC. But Lex and Jerri are there also now (possibly) to be the sacrificial lambs. Most likely Jerri will alienate and her departure would fit into the spoilers that she goes next and does not make jury.
My question is that why is Tom in cap 20 involved in the discussions while Rob is sitting back with hands over face??
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44. "RE: My two cents- sleeping with the enemy meets tribal reshuffle" |
If you review the preview from last night's recrap ep, you'll note that Robfadda is partaking in the discussion assumed to be the trivia IC contest, he leans into the group of Alicia, Jenna L., Rupert, and Tom.....no Amber present.And Crash, I do believe Jerri has on a red buff wrapped around her midsection of the Mogo's in conference re: the trivia IC contest.
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45. "RE: My two cents- sleeping with the enemy meets tribal reshuffle" |
Thanks flower. I only watched the previews not the recap yet, watching that 70s show and AI. I tried to keep watching the preview but my man gets mad when i keep doing that.So the movers possibly are Lex Jerri and Rob Tom.....but i keep wondering tho why Amber is not shown with Chappys, could she be there with Chappy but not shown? She is not the only one switched if others have buffs of opposite color.
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46. "RE: My two cents- sleeping with the enemy meets tribal reshuffle" |
It looks to me as though Rob and Amber are sitting out of the IC (if it is the IC) and she's just not shown. Maybe Rob knows the answer the other four members of his team wants to give is wrong... hence the look on his face?
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32. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 10:26 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 10:18 AM (EST) The shots of Chapera at the IC seem to show everyone with their original buffs, but there's still this shot: ![]()
Seems Jerri may have a red one on. It may be part of teh All Stars Logo, but I don't think so (it doesn't have much red). But she and Shii Ann seem to have shell necklaces, a la Chapera. Can anyone confirm them not having these before? Also, this picture: ![]()
Notice the table to the very right. Divided in 3 sections (the three tribes?). Have anything to do with anything, or just a cool table?
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35. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
That is the same table they have been using all along. Was the table Jeff had the players put the match items on during the match up challenge (for example). The 3 logos are the same 3 tribe logos we have seen throughout.For what it is worth, I don't think that is a red buff tube top on Jerri, I think it is the ribbing on her top and the flare from the edge of it.
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37. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Cool, just checking (cuz he's had the II on a stool, so I wasn't sure).
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34. "Whats the Deal with Shii" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 10:41 AM (EST)Something I noticed.... At the "reward" challange we have Shii and Jerri togheter.
 And at the "Immunity Challange" we have Shii and Jerri together again.
The main difference.... THE NECKLACE. We saw Chapera make necklaces for the newly Soboga's that went over, would make some sence. HOWEVER... I have this shot:
She has the newly made necklace but has the Mogo Mogo buff. Or could someone from Chapera move to Mogo and give the neckwear to them? Im confused with it. -=Bratz=-
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80. "RE: Whats the Deal with Shii" |
EP8...Jerri making a necklace?
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112. "Jerri & Shii in Green with RED flag" |
>At the "reward" challange we have
>Shii and Jerri togheter.
> WHY is Jerri holding the Red (Chappy) flag?? Especially when she & Shii are wearing green buffs??
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43. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
I keep going back to the wording of the IC trivia challenge, Loos and you go home, not Loose and you may be going home, we've heard that before.could there be something in this ep to get rid of 2 players? perhaps, both tribes sending someone home. or maybe the booted players come back, or 4 anyway, and compete against MM and Chappy, so if the booted players win, both tribes vote someone out. ala Survivor7's ghost tribe, but would they really reuse that idea again? another thought.They arrive for the challenge and are swapped as has been dicussed, then later play the IC which is a trivia game. But it's an individual challenge and the 2 people with the lowest score after X number of questions go home, no TC. sorry if this is all total nonsense, I'm still trying to figure out how they get to a final 4, by may 9th. okay one more thought and then I'm done, really. this is regarding the extra 2 players thing. What if 2 episodes, a little later on, are 2 hours long, covering 6 days, instead of 3. that would still make the number of eps the same, but doesn't clear up the 39 days part of the opening.
that could be MB just throwing us off a little.
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48. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
>sorry if this is all total
>nonsense, I'm still trying to
>figure out how they get
>to a final 4, by
>may 9th.
Maybe I can't count, but it seems to me if they have 10 right now (maybe that is where I am off), then the show on March 29 they cut to 9, April 6 to 8, April 13 to 7, April 20 to 6, April 27 to 5 and May 3 to 4 and then the finale on May 9th. What am I missing??
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49. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
That's right about the episodes in April and MayThere was just not that many 3 day increments in the actual filming in Nov-Dec 2003. They've already had one episode which was only one day, as opposed to 3, when Colby was voted out. They have to make up more time, but it will probably be the same thing some episodes are only over 1 or 2 days not the normal 3. EMYDI
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51. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Shii Ann: The wrath of god will come down upon us.I think the above line is the main clue. I believe the us = Shi Ann & Kathy. And god = Lex. Why the statement b/c they have decided to get rid of Jerri. The main person pulling the strings in this episode is going to be Kathy. She is going to save Amber and I think it is a good move, she will align herself with the Rob group by saving his girl. It will be an easy sell to Shi Ann b/c she can't stand how lazy Jerri is. Shi Ann's comment is directed toward how upset Lex is going to be after tribal counsel b/c he will be left out of the loop.
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56. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
I think the above line is the main clue. I believe the us = Shi Ann & Kathy. And god = Lex. That's a very good possibility. i'm still standing by the idea that MM doesn't really know about Romber, except maybe Kathy. SA wouldn't know Kathy's real reason behind saving Amber and, as you said, she doesn't like Jerri anyway.
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58. "RE: Next weeks promos/Lex erupting???" |
First time poster..long time lurker I totally agre with the comments made by Marco and FrogPrincess about Shii's quote. Remember the hissy fit Lex threw in Africa when T-bird switched her vote? Lex's temper, which so far has been very low key, may erupt at any moment and we will get to see the "wrath" as some speculate. IN the "re-crap" Lex, while talking about Ethan, says something like.. "this isn't Africa."
THat may be true, however Lex doesn't seem to have changed much as far as his gameplay goes.
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60. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
That makes so much sense I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier. Kathy is definitaly(SP?) smart enough to realize that saving Rob's girl could be very benificial. One thing though, if you look at snewser scorecard Kathy is next after Jerri. Why would Kathy be voted out? Is she one who gets switched and they realize that she is one of two calling the shots? So they send her? Lex goes right after her, so how the heck does Shii-ann end up the lone Mogo Mogo? Why wouldn't she go first? If voting off Jerri without Lex would piss him off so much why not take out Shii-Ann first?
This is driving me crazy squinting my eyes and ready hours of comments,and we have to wait two weeks? How many other scenario's do you think we can come up with, disregard, modify, disregard...... AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! How am I going to do it?
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62. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
To make this fit this mythical list of bootees which I still have not yet seen myself:If this pans out, I would assume that "the gut" now is absolutely certain that Kathy has 2 votes with her shadow SA to Lex's 1 assuming KVO and SA do not do what Lex expects next week (get rid of Amber?) and instead dispose of Jerri (Lex's obvious tool), then you have Lex, Amber, KVO and SA left on MM. *If* we still dont get merge then you could see "the gut" align with Amber creating a 2-2 tie over getting rid of Lex/Amber vs. Kathy, with Kathy losing whatever tie-break formula they have this time. Or if we get merge, then because its clear Chapera know all about the dynamics of MM because of Kathy's big mouth, maybe they get rid of her to break up her seeming 3-way alliance with her, SA and Lex. Then you get rid of Lex (much bigger IC threat) to further the Pagong etc.
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70. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
The Snewser bootlist has not been updated since March 12th, when he gets intel, or when he decides to update it, then we will know better about KO's future fate. I for one do not believe that she is the next to go after Jerri. I think Snews had a good idea of the pre-jury boots and saves changing the top part around until need be. In PI for example, he kept moving Johnny Fairplay up the ladder.KO lost 31 pounds out there during all stars, I don't think she has lost all that yet. I also don't think she is done for yet.
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54. "Lex's weirdness" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 01:49 PM (EST)Maybe the weird part is that everyone, with the exception of Lamber, ends up right back in the same tribes together, just different colored buffs. That would definitely qualify as weird. MogoMogos draw red buffs, Chaperas draw green buffs. Lamber is the odd one out having the same color as MogoMogo, which would be red this time. Do they switch homes or do they decide that, considering the way it turned out, to return to their original camps and each person would have a buff in each color and not sure which to wear. Amber would now be on MogoMogo (red or green) and could initiate the necklace making to get on MogoMogos' good side and showing willingness to bond. Rob is panicked for sure. *ST*
**edited to add that this season is making my head hurt.....
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61. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
Only problem is that the scenario you mention isn't resolved in the caps of them huddling at the quiz.SA has green on
Jerri has potentially red on
Rob appears to have red
Jenna appears to have red and so forth......... And I feel like we are in the middle of a Where's Waldo segment starring Amber. I find it extremely strange that "the powers that be" have made a point to make her not visible to us. The question is why?
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66. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
>>And I feel like we are in the middle of a Where's Waldo segment starring Amber. I find it extremely strange that "the powers that be" have made a point to make her not visible to us. The question is why?<<I should think that is obvious. Im sure they are aware of how much the audience base likes to speculate over future eps. After the ole "Im the one who got screwed." comment they have to know everyone is puzzling out just how she gets screwed. What better way to keep the buzz than deliberately keep any possibly helpful shots out of the teasers.
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68. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-26-04 AT 01:46 PM (EST)>
>And I feel like we are
>in the middle of a
>Where's Waldo segment starring Amber.
> I find it extremely
>strange that "the powers that
>be" have made a point
>to make her not visible
>to us. The question
>is why?
> I feel the same way VS. Its too easy that Amber is the only one to go to anther tribe--with all this buff swaping going on. Also, Amber was the "star" of the previews shown on 3/17 but is MIA on 3/24 previews. I think it may be misdirection or just plain evilness on MB's part or we were all waiting to see where/what Amber would do and we get no help last nite--perhaps on the tv commercials over the weekend? EMYDI
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82. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
>Also, Amber was the "star" of the previews
>shown on 3/17 but is MIA on 3/24 previews.Some spoilers would have it that this kind of pattern means Amber's storyline is drawing to a close.
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64. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
>Maybe the weird part is that
>everyone, with the exception of
>Lamber, ends up right back
>in the same tribes together,
>just different colored buffs.
>That would definitely qualify as
>weird.very interesting and plausible thought makes a more interesting show if they do in fact switch camps though
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71. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
There is one thing bothering me, I just can't see Survivor Junkies Kathy-Lex-Shii Ann losing any sort of trivia game challenge if they are all together as all three of the are addicts who watch every edition just like a lot of us. (A lot of them do recaps too)On Chapera, they have Jenna L who hasn't watched Survivor in several seasons, and Tom who probably can't remember which version is which. I can't see Rob M leading his team to a victory here. Thus, if Jerri goes, I'd have to say Amber and Jerri get switched...Rob M may throw the challenge to save Amber anyway.
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72. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 04:15 PM (EST)Well, I can see Shii Ann messing up any challenge she participates in, but that's just me. It depends on how detailed the questions are. Aside from big ticket debacles like Ghandia-gate, people are most likely to remember things connected to their own installment, I'd guess. So let's assume the tribes are: Jerri - S2
Amber - S2
Lex - S3
Kathy - S4
Shii Ann - S5 Jenna - S1
Alicia - S2
Tom - S3
Rob - S4
Rupert - S7 Tribe B covers more installments, and a wider range of installments. Do people really pay that close attention to the installments that follow their own, I wonder, once they're busy being "celebrities"? If Rupert has a really good memory, he might be in the best position. Since all the installments preceded his, he might recall trivial details of each one more clearly. 
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73. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
Thew shoulda kept Rob C, he would've rocked it.
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74. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
No doubt, I was thinking the same thing.
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78. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
>You just know that Rob C
>would remember *everything*. Actually
>it would be even worse
>for Rob M to have
>Rob C around if he's
>trying to throw the challenge,
>LOL!
>Or They could bring ROB C back in a cameo and he could ask the questions as Jeff P. LOL EMYDI
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79. "RE: Lex's weirdness" |
That would be Priceless
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75. "Didn't Kathy study?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 04:50 PM (EST)I thought I read something about Kathy studying the previous players prior to appearing on A.S.S. I'll see if I can find the reference. ETA: Here it is. Kathy used a corporate therapist (whatever that is) to come up with personality profiles of other contestants – this helped her figure out that she’s not going to get along with the younger women. ‘Survivor: All-Stars’ Players Revealed by David Bloomberg -- 01/10/2004 ---
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76. "RE: Didn't Kathy study?" |
Yeah, but that's not going to help her remember that Tina was the one who salvaged the rice tin from the river in S2.I wonder if they will have to answer the questions cold or if they'll be given multiple choice or true/false options.
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81. "Summary" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-04 AT 10:07 PM (EST)Great sleuthing guys! Ok, after reading ALL of the messages in this thread (many of which same the same thing, btw), this kinda sums up what I can deduce from everyone's excellent observations and I don't think it leaves any inconsistency in this whole mess MB has given us: The tribes have to end up 5-5 and MB is messing with colors again. The IC pics have Rob & all of Chappy minus Amber together, Rob wearing red buff. IC pics also have Mogo together. With Shii in green buff. (Spec above that Jerri's is red and Kathy's buff may be visible in her hair.) No Amber. If Amber were on Chappy and out of the shot we have the same exact tribes. So no switch prior to IC? Doesn't make sense. If Amber "got screwed" and was the only one to have new teammates, she must be with the Mogos. Shii and Rob's colors are altered in IC pics. All Mogos and Amber are now Chappys and Rob & Crew are Mogos. Rob and the Chappys amazingly win a mental challenge (of sorts), despite Rob's attempt to throw it) and Kathy, Shii and Amber vote to boot Jerri, thus Shii fears incurring the wrath of lex. ETA: Crap. If Jenna's buff is red, this doesn't work. Is it?  
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03-26-04, 08:59 AM (EST)
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85. "RE: Summary" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-26-04 AT 09:54 AM (EST)
I think at this point we should presume that the lineup is just a pairing off. Since they did have this scenario with the paints and the pairing in Thailand, perhaps we are seeing a variation of this as well. The pairs would then be
Jenna/Amber
Alicia/Kathy
Rupert/Shii Ann
Jerri/Tom
Rob/Lex It seems a little coincidental that they are lined up this way if not for a reason. Perhaps then they are paired off, maybe this "exchange" is noticed then - I don't know - but when they come back from their meet/greet, Jeff bamboozles them with a swap type of scenario instead of what they thought would be a merger. After that, you are more than welcome to figure out the mystery of the buffs. ETA: Obviously Jenna/Amber are on same tribe but that obviously has to be expected since Chapera has more members anyway
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03-26-04, 09:08 AM (EST)
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86. "RE: Summary" |
VerucaSalt I think you nailed it on the head. All that is left is for Shi Ann to stick her foot in her mouth again before the merge.
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03-26-04, 11:04 AM (EST)
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92. "RE: Summary" |
The pairs would then be
Jenna/Amber
Alicia/Kathy
Rupert/Shii Ann
Jerri/Tom
Rob/Lex
I like this, for I think it explains a lot... After they are done talking and chatting about being a pair. Jeff tells them that 1 member of each pair will go to Mogo and 1 member will go to Chapera.
Thus we get the mogo 4 + Amber? Kinda far fetched being random, however random has a mystery way of working. -=Bratz=-
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Get Bent 293 desperate attention whore postings
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03-26-04, 11:07 AM (EST)
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93. "RE: Summary" |
Veruca,Please help and explain how the pairing off worked previously. I did not watch it that season! 
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03-26-04, 03:13 PM (EST)
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103. "Thailand pairing off" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-26-04 AT 03:16 PM (EST)Get Bent, I'll try to remember how this worked: The tribes were at 5 and 5. The tribes were each sent a package that had five different color paints: red, blue, green, gold, orange (I think). Each member of the tribe had to paint him/herself using one color. Then when they gathered at the picnic grounds, each person was paired with the person from the opposite tribe who was wearing the matching color. At this point, two of the pairs selected a "special" cracker-jack prize. One of the pairs, Shii Ann and Clay, repaired to Chuay Gahn's camp, where Clay gave Shii Ann a guided tour and Shii Ann had diarrhea of the mouth about what her tribe was like. The other pair, Helen and Ken, went to Sook Jai camp, where they barely spoke for fear of giving out any information. Then they all came back to the picnic area and Helen, Ken, Clay, and Shii Ann had to give their estimations of where the best camp to live would be. Chuay Gahn's was the verdict. And then they all merged. Or so they thought. ETA: Sorry to be redundant, I didn't see the question was already answered below. Anyway, I gave you an extra detail or two.
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Get Bent 293 desperate attention whore postings
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03-29-04, 04:36 PM (EST)
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113. "RE: Thailand pairing off" |
BR,Yes THANKS. You gave much more detail. I went away for the weekend, only to find the entire episode 100% spoiled. How cool is that?! A bit disappointed I didn't participate however. Thanks again!!
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03-26-04, 09:13 AM (EST)
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87. "RE: Summary" |
You are right VS, if that IS the treemail box behind Rob in this picture:
Then it is a confessional taken at the Mogo's camp. Here are a couple of pics of Chapera's Tree mail from previous episodes: 
That means that Rob did draw a green buff as has been speculated. Good catch!
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03-26-04, 10:05 AM (EST)
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90. "RE: Summary" |
If we have Rob with a green buff in MM camp, then it could be a very nice tie-in with:Lex: "This is just wierd"- teams essentially the same after redraw Amber: "Im the one who got screwed"- still in same ole Chappy tribe but now with all the MMs Rob: "To catch fish we can use Rupert or the sling"- now over at MM camp with no sling, but still has Rupert in new tribe
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03-26-04, 10:02 AM (EST)
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89. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
When does teh web promo come out, I'm anxious!
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03-26-04, 10:48 AM (EST)
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91. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
They ended up using the web promo after the re-crap show. (or would that be the other way around?)
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03-26-04, 11:52 AM (EST)
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94. "RE: Next weeks promos" |
Nooooooooooooo! Maybe some of the TV promos will show something.
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03-26-04, 12:38 PM (EST)
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95. "Pairing off" |
Help please!Earier in this thread Veruca explained that the reason the two tribes were lined up in such a strange way was that they were paired off for a while, then gathered in a line, similar to a previous season when they merged. Perfect explanation. But you could please help and explain how the pairing off worked previously. I did not watch it that season! Did the pairs chat for a while? Was it just to line up? Did they choose who they paired with? How did the pairing off go down?
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03-26-04, 12:53 PM (EST)
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96. "RE: Pairing off" |
I don't remember exactly how they were picked to pair off, but each pairing had a separate color of paint and went off alone and painted each other and talked. One pair was selected to go to each of the camps and see which one was the better camp.Then they all came back and sat in a big circle and Jeff talked about "Something very special is happening today, you will be choosing one camp to live at" The group talked about it and the ambassadors if you will (who were Ken and Helen) decided that Chuay Ghan was the better place to live. They were dismissed by Jeff and went back thinking they were merged (though nobody had got a new buff, they just made the assumption). Since Shii was the odd duck at Sook Jai, she spilled her guts and tried for a big alliance jump over to Chuay, only to find out later at the IC that the tribes ahd NOT merged and presto magic guess who got booted next? So with only 2 paint colors, this is clearly different then what happened before. I am still leaning toward the fake SWAP sleeping with the enemy until they find out those new buffs are just where they sleep not what tribe they are on.
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03-26-04, 01:05 PM (EST)
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97. "RE: Pairing off" |
They received paint in their mail and when they showed up, Jeff initiated a "get to know you" session and matched them up according to the paint. Obviously they are paired here in another way but the line up is strange enough to me that there is a method of some sort (or not )Then as KO states, Jeff allowed them to get the impression they merged; they went back to the camp of their choice, had a celebration, arrived at RC the next day when they were told they assumed wrong and they were only living together and not merged. I am of the opinion that perhaps along those lines, they are somehow swapped but are under the assumption they are swapped completely, when, in fact, they arrive at IC only to find out they are still with their original tribe somehow along with what KO stated. My only "issue" if you will is what the buff has meant all this time. You put on your buff and that is who you are. To be "Mogo Mogo" and then go with your Chapera is a little strange to me but then again, there is a lot yet I don't think we know for sure here.
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03-26-04, 01:50 PM (EST)
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99. "RE: Pairing off" |
Thanks for the explanation of the pairing!! I did watch that episode, and only remembered the fake merge part. (I wasn't following this board at that time)I agree it looks like they swap, and then reconvene into their old tribes, because they outright told us the quiz show was the IC. But I also get stuck on the buff part. When Jiffy explained to the tribes in S5 about how it was not a merge, I believe he said something like "I never said merge, and you never got new buffs". So how could they pull off giving a new buff and saying gotcha after using that as a statement in the past. I know, I know. They can do anything and "fair" is not a word I should use for playing Survivor. The fake merge makes the most sense given the vid caps we have seen. A lot of the CBS teasers and previews would happen in-between when the tribes are in chaos, and don't necessarily lead to anything. I am stuck on one more thing however. Rob crying. I can only see him cry if he is considering getting rid of Amber. If she is on another tribe (even temporarily), why would he cry? Some speculated that he is considering throwing the challenge to save Amber which makes him cry. Why would that make him cry? And, they have given us a lot of foreshadowing with Rob and Amber during the recrap. They want us to think Amber and Rob are in love, Amber is a little too sure about it (trust him 99%, wrapped around my finger), and Rob can be an A$$. I think CBS is giving us hints or misdirection that Amber is next.
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03-26-04, 01:57 PM (EST)
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100. "RE: Pairing off" |
>I think
>CBS is giving us hints
>or misdirection that Amber is
>next.
>I agree its misdirection of an Amber boot--but Jerri goes. EMYDI
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03-26-04, 02:12 PM (EST)
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101. "RE: Pairing off" |
I just can't see Rob crying over anything. Grimacing, yes. Crying? That's for guhrls.
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03-26-04, 02:35 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: Pairing off" |
I have not yet seen the promo "moving" since the first time it aired so my memory is faint. My question is this:Is the shot of Rob "appearing" to be upset just chopped from when they are sitting at the trivia challenge and he is rubbing his eyes and looking fatigued and whatever else. His mannerisms are practically the same. If this is the case then the shots of him looking so upset are merely a continuation of how he looks at the challenge.
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03-26-04, 04:00 PM (EST)
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106. "RE: Pairing off" |
The after episode promo is also the web promo this week, so if you'd like to see it again, you can watch it on CBS.com.---
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03-26-04, 04:06 PM (EST)
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108. "RE: Pairing off" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-26-04 AT 04:12 PM (EST)why are some assuming he is crying? Must be the middle cap. Out of context, it sort of looks like he's wiping a tear out of his eye, but actually his hands are not touching his face. He's bringing them down from his temples as we see him in the previous cap. ETA: I do think he appears frustrated/anxious, but he's not crying.
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03-31-04, 11:39 AM (EST)
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114. "RE: Pairing off" |
Do they pair off and go chat, then change buffs, or vice-versa?The more speculation I read, the more confused I get! LOL
If they do pair off and chat, what happens with Amber and Jenna? Are they just sitting out because the tribes are 6-4? It seems like they both are screwed out of interacting with a rival tribemate. They are on the same tribe, so it wouldn't make sense for them to be deemed ambassadors, especially since they all end up on Saboga.
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03-31-04, 12:12 PM (EST)
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115. "RE: Pairing off" |
That's a good question. We don't know how the pairs are selected, but if the point is to get to know someone from the opposite tribe, Jenna and Amber will have nothing to do.It looks like the pairs go off to secluded spots from the shot of Lex with Rob's cap brim. Maybe Jenna and Amber just stay and hang out with Jeff Probst. That would make sense since when everyone returns they are on the far end of the line closest to the mats, where they originally arrived.
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03-31-04, 03:55 PM (EST)
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116. "RE: Pairing off" |
Oooh Oooh, this could be itThis could be why Amber says she "felt like she was the one that got screwed". All the other Chaperas got the opportunity to pair off for the day with a Mogo in advance of the reshuffle/IC yet she got stuck with Jenna and hence had no access/insight to the Mogo's. So she typically narcissistically feels like she got screwed. This would let you largely take the "screwed" comment out of the spoiling and maybe simplify (if possible) the rearrangement spec. MB would also see this as classic misdirection as we would be led to believe Amber is in jeopardy from the reassortment when in reality it's Jerri, just like it always was.
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03-26-04, 04:47 PM (EST)
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109. "RE: tv commercials during bball" |
Did anyone else catch the promos during last nite's bball games? There were full commercials and then also promos during the game. They all appeared to be old footage, except one of Rupert and Tom building and a log falling?I dont know, I was too distraught bc my Panthers lost.... EMYDI
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