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"episode 7 probst spoiler"
cdlafl 26 desperate attention whore postings
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"episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Jeff was just on Mancow this morning...he said that episodes are normally 3 days long...tonight's is one day...the challenge is for both reward and immunity and that the winning tribe gets to pick one member from the losing tribe and that member doesn't have to go to tribal council...i thought this would be better as a separate thread
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03-11-04, 08:27 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Interesting find cdlafl....wonder who the Chappy's will pick, perhaps they will stir things up by picking Ethan to remain, thinking that he, being a previous winner, would have the largest target on his back. Sure would make it alot easier to understand a Colby boot, although personally I have no trouble with it, regardless if Ethan remains or not.....
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03-11-04, 08:27 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Which could be why we see an Ethan or Colby boot instead of Jerri tonight. If Rupert and Jenna convince Chappy to take Jerri (just because they must feel she would be vulnerable) then Mogo would have more reason to oust a strong male (and I bet Chappy realizes this when they choose). KO wants to keep Shii around as a swing vote, and by virtue of that so would Lex. 
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cdlafl 26 desperate attention whore postings
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03-11-04, 08:40 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
I think it will definately be an old Saboga that gets saved a la Rupert and Jenna...Jerri makes more sense to save from their stand point, figuring Ethan is next to go...if Jerri is saved, I think Ethan is gone because a piece of the movement to oust Colby will not be involved in tribal council...just some thoughts
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03-11-04, 08:43 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
>Chappy to take Jerri, then Mogo would have more reason to oust a strong male
Yes, I think that the Chappy's will pick a female...most likely Jerri, to sit out TC, and indeed lead to increased chances for the Mogo's to vote out one of the stronger males. Sounds right on KObrien fan!
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03-11-04, 08:58 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
I'm not sure if I'm sold on the thought of Rob letting the two new Chappy's (Rupert and Jenna) make the call on this one... Why would he want to give them a potential power base going into a merge that could happen at any time?? Maybe he would listen to them tell him that Jerri is easy to vote off at any time - but I could see him think of it more as a threat if they try to save one of their own. Then it would be 3 Sabogas vs 4 Chappys - and Alicia isn't really in the alliance. Interesting twist though. Would like to have a better source noted rather than a Howard Stern ripoff...
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03-11-04, 09:07 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Rob would see the logic as follows:They kidnap Jerri, a weak woman and irritant (if done like the last time, this is just a temporary thing, she doesn't participate in TC) Mogo is forced to vote off the remaining Saboga (Strong Ethan), or one of their own. No matter who of Mogo goes, it would weaken them and leave 5 Mogo's, 4 Saboga's and 5 Chappy's getting the numbers closer to Rob's liking, especially since he is trying to work his majic on Rupert and Jenna.
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okaloosajohn 1259 desperate attention whore postings
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03-11-04, 09:40 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
"They kidnap Jerri,...." Did I misunderstand something? I thought the original post says the winner gets to give immunity to one member of the losing team. I didn't see anything about kidnapping...  
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cdlafl 26 desperate attention whore postings
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03-11-04, 09:25 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
First of all, Mancow didn't report it...Jeff was on the show and he said it in his own words...Secondly, I don't think whomever they choose will be a permenant member of their tribe...he made it seem like they were just saving them from TC
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03-11-04, 09:41 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
<nodding>That's what I understood.
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03-11-04, 08:48 AM (EST)
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6. "Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh" |
There goes all my logic for a Jerri boot!!!!
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03-11-04, 09:16 AM (EST)
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9. "Pick a Tribemate?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-04 AT 09:32 AM (EST)Doesn't this description sound like the title for EP8: "Pick a Tribemate". Is it possible he was talking about next week? If they pick Ethan to become a Chapera, it would allow the Rob versus Ethan issues to develop before the merge. It also means that Chapera could lose the IC next week and boot Ethan in EP8... It's also possible that he announces the reward of "Picking a tribemate" but it isn't revealed until next episode, since this week is only 1 day? 
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03-11-04, 10:49 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Pick a Tribemate?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-04 AT 10:51 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 03-11-04 AT 10:50 AM (EST) I think it may happen this week, and the title of next week is still intriguing because it has a question mark. The tribes may be led to think this "picking" will continue and fall into another "twist". I also think Chapera will pick Ethan, just so they can vote him off at the next (or the next) TC. Even if Chapera wins 2 immunities in a row, they are bound to pull some non-strength immunity challenge to even the numbers up.
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03-11-04, 11:09 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Pick a Tribemate?" |
Just being different here. In the caps for tonight's episode we see Shii and Kathy looking relaxed and happy in the water. Later we see everyone but Kathy sitting around the fire or scheming. If Rob saves his old friend Kathy from being voted out or Kathy is at Chapera that might explain why she's not there. They may pick Shii or Jerri as well because the Chappys probably look at them as weak or expendable and not integrated and it may force the Mogos to look at voting out a strong player who may be part of a solid alliance. Bob
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03-11-04, 10:55 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Pick a Tribemate?" |
I thought the same thing, KB -- but why would Jeff be talking about something that's not going to happen until next week, especially since it's a "surprise" to the tribes?The selected member will probably be "kidnapped" in the same sense that Rupert was kidnapped by Morgan for a day in S7 and was ineligible to be voted out at TC. If it's tonight and Chapera's on the ball, they'll pick Jerri or maybe Shii Ann. I'd bet on the latter. 
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03-11-04, 11:01 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Pick a Tribemate?" |
Shii would make the most sense in this situation. She's the weakest Mogo - making her immune would mean a strong person would have to go. 
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03-11-04, 11:09 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Pick a Tribemate?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-04 AT 11:42 AM (EST)And she's a) impressionable, in case Chapera wants to pull someone in; and b) most likely to spill the beans about what's going on at MogoMogo (remembering her "merge" meeting with Clay). ETA: Chapera choosing Jerri doesn't seem likely at all, on second thought. Saboga was dissolved; Jenna and Rupert have no loyalty to her -- well maybe Rupert has some smidgeon of original tribe loyalty, but as another poster said, he won't be calling the shots. Plus, they know Jerri's a byotch; Rob and Tom are happy that Sue's gone, do they want a replacement for her? And picking Jerri doesn't ensure an Ethan boot, if Chapera even *wanted* to ensure that. I think the Chappy's will be happy if Mogo's weakest person can't get booted. And they've seen Shii Ann sitting out all the challenges...
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03-11-04, 11:47 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Pick a Tribemate?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-04 AT 11:48 AM (EST)I disagree; I added in some additional thoughts above. One last thing in Shii Ann's favor: she has no ties to another contestant from her prior Survivor. So, as I said above, she may seem most susceptible to being recruited -- especially if they remember how she played in Thailand. That's the way I'd see it if I were on Chapera, anyway.
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03-11-04, 12:11 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Pick a Tribemate?" |
I agree BR. Shii is the most logical choice to be "kidnapped" by C and also IMO the most logical choice for a boot at MM. But as has already been stated several times, these people are rarely logical. I'm not disagreeing w/the clown or KB because they are probably correct about the Colby boot. I just see it as poor strategy at this point in the game. Because that leaves a much weaker MM tribe, Shii can no longer sit out challeges. For instance, match up the tribes if Colby gets the boot.Ethan - Rob
Lex - Tom
Kathy - Rupert
Jerri - Alicia
Shii - Jenna
- Amber They had better hope for a non-physical challenge or two. The only other remedy to avoid a complete pagonging would be to mix the tribes before the merge. And I am finally coming around to agree with you BR that it's just not going to happen. I know this post is long and redundant, but I feel better now.
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03-11-04, 12:02 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Pick a Tribemate?" |
Good logic - taking a weak person could mean they have to vote off another strong person. But they could also boot another weak person. If Chaps takes Shii, then the next weak person to boot is Jerri. That leaves 3 VERY strong challenge competitors (Lex, Colby, Ethan) and one pretty tough chick (Kathy). If there's another reward and immunity challenge left, then the new Chaps squad of Rob, Tom, Rupert, Alicia, Amber, Jenna, and Shii are left with a couple of fat guys against 3 lean men. And if they pick the wrong 3 to sit out the RC, then they could really mess themselves up with the IC.I think taking Shii could lead to disaster for Chaps. The winner needs to take strength.
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03-11-04, 12:01 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Pick a Tribemate?" |
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>Doesn't this description sound like the
>title for EP8: "Pick a
>Tribemate". Is it possible he
>was talking about next week?
>KB, that's just what I was thinking too. In fact I can't think of a better title for this scenario. One thing gives me pause - would Jiffy spoil the episode more than a week in advance?
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03-11-04, 11:37 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Since this all takes place in 1 day, does this mean there is no TC?
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cdlafl 26 desperate attention whore postings
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03-11-04, 11:58 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
jeff said there will be tc tonight...everything in one eventful day
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03-11-04, 11:48 AM (EST)
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22. "Different pick theory" |
Just throwing this out there -- what if, prior to the challenge, both tribes are told to pick one member to represent them. They'll think back to the Amazon and speculate that they're going to do a tribe blending exercise again. So each tribe picks a representative and when the get to RC/IC, Jeff tells them that the reward is the winning tribe gets to steal the other tribes representative.This kind of sneaky move would negate any clever scheming on the part of both tribes and both tribes would likely be in danger of losing their leader. I would guess that in this scenario Rob and Kathi would be the tribe representatives and this might jive with the comments above pointing out that Kathi isn't seen much in the Mogo Mogo vidcaps. Start shredding... -BbB
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03-11-04, 11:55 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Different pick theory" |
I like it! It's also reminiscent of S3's pick your 3 strongest players. They also know Kathy doesn't like Jerri or the way Colby's playing so they vote out somebody she'd vote out.
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03-11-04, 12:55 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Different pick theory" |
It also fits into the one tribe is duped by the treemail senario.
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03-11-04, 11:54 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Great find, cdlafl. Great discussion on this so far also. Let’s look at who’s left, and figure out who the best pick is for Chaps and why.Ch – Rob, Amber, Tom, Alicia, Jenna (Sab), Rupert (Sab)
MM – Lex, Colby, Kathy, Shii Ann, Jerri (Sab), Ethan (Sab) So if Chaps gets to pick someone from Mogos, it makes sense to take someone that will weaken the Mogos ability to win immunity so that if a merge takes place at 10 people left, the Chaps stay up 6-4. In other words, pick a man – Lex, Colby, or Ethan. Jenna and Rupert might want to take Ethan (or Jerri under the same reasoning, but she won’t benefit Chaps and won’t hinder Mogos by leaving them) to help their cause. If they do this, they will need to get Alicia to work their alliance. Tom would probably also like to have Ethan on his side, but he likely won’t have the foresight to see what’s going on in terms of the Sabogas reforming. Colby and Lex are also strong challenge competitors. The Chaps should be afraid to take Colby. If he’s on their tribe, they may go up 6-4 at the merge, but they might be afraid that Colby will go on an immunity run. (Note: Nobody has gone on a Colby immunity run since S2. The closest was Darrah’s 3 in a row in S7, who benefited from Burton’s misspelling of liaison and Jiffy’s not catching the error and having to restart that challenge with the remaining players, plus her tiny hands in the “grab the floating key” challenge.) While the fear is not a realistic one based on how the challenges have changed, it is a perceived one; hence, Colby is not a good choice for Chaps. Lex is the leader of the Mogos. We know that Rich thought of Lex as being “diabolical,” and he may have that reputation among Survivor players. He has a vengeful streak, as we saw what he did with Kelly G. Bringing Lex to Chaps could be bad for the entire team as you don’t know what he would do. He could reunite w/Tom to learn the ins and outs of the team and stir up trouble. He could form a “misfit” alliance with the other Sabogas and Alicia (see the above Ethan example). He’s such a loose cannon that it’s just not wise to take him. Ethan is the best choice for the overall survival of Chapera and the demise of the Mogos.
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03-11-04, 12:05 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
...it makes sense to take someone that will weaken the Mogos ability to win immunityThe only slight problem with this premise is that Rupert can tell them he went back to his own tribe following the next reward challenge. So if Chapera picks a strong guy they'll end up creating more of a Mogo Mogo IC threat down the road. Regardless, I think if the tribes get to choose who to steal the Chaperas will pick a strong guy (Ethan or Colby). Maybe, maybe, maybe they'll steal Lex if people let on that he's been fishing. Stealing a food supplier would be a great thing to do. The MogoMogos should steal Rob, just to get the leader out of Chapera. But of course they'll lose so it doesn't matter what they should do. -BbB
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings
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03-11-04, 12:11 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
It really depends on how they do it. If they are choosing a person solely so that the person can't get voted out, obviously they should take a weak person. But in S7, Rupert also had to compete for Morgan at the next challenge, which was an RC. Suppose that is the case here -- it would present a dilemma. What if the next challenge is also a combined RC/IC, or just an IC? Would Jeffy tell them? I think I'd gamble on taking a weak person in either case, though. As you point out, the kidnapped person may have to return to Mogo at some point. And someone on Chapera would have to sit out the second challenge (presumably not the kidnapped person). Meanwhile, Mogo Mogo will have voted out someone who had some measure of ability. It wouldn't hugely tip the scale in their favor, imo.
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03-11-04, 12:13 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Long time lurker, never a smurker.Hi,
If we go by what Jeff said EXACTLY then the winning tribe gives individual immunity to a member of the losing tribe. Not sure what kind of reward THAT is for the winners. However, if they do it on the spot w/o much thinking (as opposed to waiting till later in the day), then they all should come to the same conclusion that they need to pick someone who doesn't threaten them in the merge. That would have to be one of the women. I can't imagine them giving it to Jerri, Kathy lasted until the final 3 during her season so she might be seen as a threat, so it would go to Shii-Ann who looks like the weakest member. That being said. Jerri uses this as an opportunity to inact revenge on Colby and tries to get rid of him. Does she succeed? Shi-Ann would give him a vote too. Kathy may think she's competing for tribal power and vote for him too. She won't go against Lex, so if they decide then he goes. A word to Kathy: Kathy I wanted you to win the last time you played. But two things happened this season that have turned me off: 1) your struting your power which usually leads to demise and 2) your insensitivity to Sue. However, there's still room in my heart for you to redeem yourself.
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03-11-04, 03:01 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Agree with your choice of Ethan JohnMc. By picking Ethan Chapera would gain control of him much like Mongo did after Saboga was dissolved. Cant think of anything that would make the Robbfather happier than having the fate of "pretty boy Ethen" in his hands.RedBeard
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03-11-04, 12:17 PM (EST)
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32. "Immunity on the Yacht?" |
Since it sounds like everything happens on one day...The tribes arrive at the Challenge and are told the winning tribe gets reward AND immunity. The tribe will be rewarded with the party on the yacht while the other tribe goes to TC...the winning tribe(Chapera) also must select someone to share their reward (the yacht trip)...this will make the person selected immune because they will be on the yacht instead of at TC! The Chapera would be smart to select someone they aren't in a hurry to get the boot, someone who is not a challenge threat or someone they would like as an ally after the merge... Who fits that description? Either the outsiders (Jerri or Ethan) or Shii Ann...
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67. "RE: Immunity on the Yacht?" |
I would tend to agree that the selected member from MM joins Chapera on the reward and does not attend TC but returns to camp after the reward and not kidnapped. As with the Rupert kidnap, he competed with that tribe during the next challenge. With a kidnapped member and the boot from MM Chapera would be up 6-4 thereby having to sit out 2 people from the following challenge which I don't see as a likely scenerio.
Having Ethan join Chappy for the reward would also set up the exposure of the "dating game" he played and lead to sending him back to his tribe in a major hissy fit.
Next weeks supposed title could indicate that the team that is a member short gets to pick the person from Chappy to sit out the next challenge.waiting for the shredding happily
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03-11-04, 12:23 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Udg posted in the RC/IC threat that the riddle that Amber reads tonight is: Living on the island, you need the ocean to survive
Be the first to master the sea, three more days you'll stay alive
Huge consequence if you move too slow
Be the last to finish, and you'll be the next to go
Now, udg, you are much better on the fly than I am, I was not able to transcribe it. Now could Jeff on the Mancow show have been talking about episode 8, "Pick a tribemate"? Why would Jiffy say that todays episode 7, takes place all in one day? Now, I'm really confused.
I just can't see them putting in the riddle that they will buy THREE more days with a win if they are only having one day with a combined RC/IC(which we know to be the case), and then assuming that they have a TC that night. What's up with this?
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03-11-04, 12:38 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
I just can't see them putting in the riddle that they will buy THREE more days with a win if they are only having one day with a combined RC/IC(which we know to be the case), and then assuming that they have a TC that night.What's up with this? Yesterday, Sue ostened. Today, they have a combined IC/RC, and today's episode only covers one day. The tribe who wins IC, doesn't go to TC today, and next episode is a regular 3 day schedule (RC, IC, TC), so it will be 3 more days until the next TC. I think this means:
Day 17, RC/Sue quit
Day 18, combined RC/IC (or just an IC?) also TC
Day 19-21, business as usual, with TC on the 21st Of course, there's the question of what Jeff means by "one day." Midnight to midnight? And, I didn't hear the interviews, so I'm just going off of what was written above.
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03-11-04, 12:44 PM (EST)
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37. "One Day Episode..." |
The "one day" episode also explains why there are not post challenge shots of Chapera at camp...they are on the yacht while the Mogo Mogo are shown preparing fpr TC...
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03-11-04, 12:54 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Problem with this timeline:
Day 17, RC/Sue quit
Day 18, combined RC/IC (or just an IC?) also TC
Day 19-21, business as usual, with TC on the 21st If Sue quit on day 17, they were shown the next day receiving mail that there would be no IC - so that would be day 18. This show should be day 19 if it is only a one day show. That leads to 3 days (day 20-22) for the next show - which includes the infamous Day 21 that everyone has been looking ahead to... 
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03-11-04, 01:00 PM (EST)
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43. "I think you're right!" |
Thanks for the correction. I'd forgotten about that tree mail & cancelled IC.---
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36. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
when jeff was on the show, mancow transitions away from the sue issue and ask, "can you give us anything good for tonight?"...he then goes into the story of tonight being a one day show, with everything I've already mentioned...maybe there are some interesting stipulations next week when the "loser" pickup by the winning tribe is returned...
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39. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Maybe the twist next week is that at the RC the Mogo Mogo get to "Pick a Tribemate" rather than having the person Chapera picked be returned!?
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42. "Last season..." |
After Rupert was kidnapped, wasn't he given the opportunity to stay with Morgan to enjoy the RC he won for them? What if this time, the kidnapped player is allowed to choose to stay permanently, and the other team gets to pick a replacement?---
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34. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Are we concluding that one player from the losing team is just assigned immunity? or that one player is actually kidnapped (temporarily) a-la Rupert?If one player is "kidnapped" it would not make sense for it to be Jerri- according to the CBS misdirection "One castaway's grating behavior drives a fellow tribe member crazy." Isn't Jerri likely to be the one with the grating behavior- driving Colby or Shii Ann or Kathy crazy? For that to be true- they will all have to still be together. It would make sense for Ethan to be kidnapped allowing for his "hissy-fit" with Rob. Of course this is all assuming there is a "kidnapped" player and not just assigned immunity.
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38. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
I would so love the irony that Jerri is being a royal pain only to be saved from TC and send Mogo Mogo scrambling (again)Picking Jerri would serve two purposes. She is not strongly allied (to Chapera) with MM and therefore could possibly be a future help to them and by taking her, they may hope that Ethan, the other displaced Saboga, could be a boot. If not, the worse that could happen is their weakest female (SA) would go but that would help ensure that the original MM was down in numbers as well. I find the irony the best thing though  
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48. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Well, speaking of irony/foreshadowing, VS -- if Colby is getting the boot tonight, doesn't Jerri have to cast a vote for him in order to gloat over her revenge? If Robfadda decides who they pick, and thinks it through, I think Rob would be more concerned with keeping total control in his own tribe. He can't ultimately control who gets voted out of Mogo. First off, Jerri was a Saboga. She *might* still have some ties to Jenna and Rupert. Second, Jerri was in S2 with Amber and Alicia. While Rob may not be worried about Amber, Jerri *might* have ties to Alicia. Alicia is the only person in Chapera that Rob does not have an alliance with, as he told us. Would he pick Jerri, who might conceivably hook up with Alicia, and then maybe the two of them would sway Rupert and Jenna away from their Ramber alliance? Nope, I can't see why he'd want Jerri. Unless he stamps "stoopid" on his forehead again.
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47. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Jeez! There is so many ways to read into this, and so many ways it can work out. I agree with most posts above, and don't have any final opinion just yet. So just to add to the discussion...Rupert was kidnapped rather early in S7, so it is possible that ##### members saw this. So I don't think they would do the kidnapping again. But, in a twist from S7, I think that only giving immunity to one member might be more likely. And who to pick? Well kidnapping, you may want to go with the weakest, to protect them from being eliminated, OR, choose someone you feel is in control of Mogo Ego so you can take the head of the snake away for a few days and let chaos ensue at the losing camp. If the kidnapping is the same as Ruperts, they may want to take a strong challenge competitor. To just give immunity, the weakest and/or someone outside of their tribe alliance makes the most sense. That would be Jerri. Therefore Chappys would be forcing them to canibalize their tribe alliance, or get rid of Ethan (a potentially strong challenge competitor). Also, it does seem weird that next weeks title could describe this twist. CBS has pretty good control on JP's comments during interviews I am sure. So why would he be allowed to say this a week early? I don't think he would. But, stranger things have happened. I tend to think that it is indeed this show. As I said earlier, all ideas I read above seem feasible! I am looking forward to how it pans out!!
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44. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
I agree that you have to pick a strong player.
Also one of the Vidcaps shows Lex talking to Shi Ann, this looks to me like post IC talk to me. That leaves Colby & Ethan. I think they take Colby b/c you don't want to strengthen Rupert & Jenna. They probably will not have a lot of time to pick so the most vocal person might end up swaying the tribe to pick, could it be the lady in red.
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45. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
What about old ties? I can see that playing a role in Chapera's decision to kidnap/save Jerri. Jenna and Rupert were aligned with her, in addition, Amber was Jerri's old puppet, and supposedly, Alicia and Jerri were good friends at one time when they bonded on the jury. Rob M doesn't seem like the type to want another alpha male on his tribe.
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46. "Possible misdirection, or a Red Herring for SB?" |
One more stray thought - - Official CBS misdirection -Is there anything in Jiffy's words that would be misdirection for the spoiling community, yet still not be untrue enough to confuse the general pop? If so it would probably be in the "pick one member from the losing tribe and that member doesn't have to go to tribal council" statement. What we don't know is whether Jiffy gives the winning tribe any clue as to whether the pickee only gets immunity in not going to TC, or if the newcomer will be permanent, or at least in the tribe long enough to compete on their side in the next challenge. Wish we knew the exact wording here - if anybody finds it please post! The twist might become more twisty next week if Chappy thinks they are getting a helper for the next challenge, and it turns out to be merge time so the newcomer is no help at all to them - in fact they only saved a strong competitor. So if they chose a strong person they just did themselves in. This also fits in with Jeff's saying this episode is only one day and next week it's back to three - keeping the big surprise for another week. In the clip that was on the Early Show Jenna is shown apparently talking about getting a new tribemate that will give Chappy a long term advantage - NOT about picking someone weak to force the Mogo's to vote off a stronger player. Here's the link to the page where you can access the video if you missed the early show - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/11/earlyshow/series/survivor/main605275.shtml Anyway, there's a lot here that makes me think CBS is giving just enough info to make us think Chappy picks a strong player - throwing a wrench into the works as it were.
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03-11-04, 01:14 PM (EST)
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49. "More confusion for me!" |
Leftpinky is correct above when she said last week's show ended on day 18. You can go back and check the updates I gave in the East Coast thresd.Tree Mail that was shown on The Early Show: Living on the island, you need the ocean to survive
Be the first to master the sea, three more days you'll stay alive
Huge consequence if you move too slow
Be the last to finish, and you'll be the next to go Then we have the CBS Website preview for: One tribe is misled by Tree Mail, as all the tribes find themselves blindsided by another twist. How does the tree mail mentioned confuse one tribe? Is the preview on the website just wrong? Which we have seen before. These things just don't jive with me. What are your thoughts?  
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03-11-04, 01:29 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: More confusion for me!" |
I posted similar thoughts Doc on the RC/IC thread after discovering what the tree mail riddle was. To me it doesn't seem misleading or confusing at all. Left Pinky suggests in that thread that possibly Mogo interprets this as meaning individual challenge "be the last to finish and you go home" in the literal sense, and maybe that is what the misinterpretation is.Even if that is, since you don't have to plot or scheme ahead of time in a challenge (especially when nobody has to sit out) what difference would it make if they did get mislead?
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03-11-04, 01:40 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: More confusion for me!" |
Blow by Blow's point above above makes the most sense to me -- that they get a treemail (probably before the challenge email) that instructs them to select a teammate without revealing the purpose. One team (the Mogos?) is mislead, perhaps thinking it's a "select a negotiator" or the like due to an upcoming merge or something, and picks their leader -- Lex?; then they go to the challenge and learn not a merge, but that the losing tribe loses their nominee. That would certainly shock the losing tribe.
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53. "RE: More confusion for me!" |
>There are too
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>still running in my head!
I think that's just what MB had in mind, leaking all this confusing last minute stuff. Hi DID get a reaction from the SB's
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54. "what the tree mail to Chapera says..." |
Voice Over Transcriptcourtesy of He Who Shall Not Be Named at Sucks..
Rob: We just got our treemail for the day. It looks like it's gonna be an immunity challenge.
Jenna: For immunity?
Amber: Yep.
Jenna: Wow.
Rob: It's a puzzle.
Amber: "Living on the island you need the ocean to survive. Be the first to master the sea, 3 more days you'll stay alive. Huge consequence if you move too slow, be the last to finish, you may be the next to go."
Jenna: The merge is coming, I can feel it. Knowing that now we're even numbers with the other tribe we need to kind of get someone under our wing maybe to have that advantage in numbers.
Rob: We're not losing.
Rupert: We're not losing.
Amber: We're not losing.
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56. ""Under our Wing"" |
>>Jenna: The merge is coming, I
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>now we're even numbers with
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Sounds like foreshadowing of selecting someone from the Mogo Mogo to "take under their wing"...
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03-11-04, 02:27 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: "Under our Wing"" |
Not necessarily BR If Jerri is the intended next target for MM; I find it very laughable that Colby would get the boot instead of Jerri. Taking revenge herself is probably very sweet but I do believe that Jerri may feel extremely satisfied even knowing Colby went before she did. I also don't think that Chapera is stupid by selecting Jerri. She is not an original MM which means they may be feeling that this could break up the original MM's OR just get rid of Ethan (a previous winner and challenge threat) Giving Jerri some Chapera love could always work in their favor to dismantle the numbers of Mogo Mogo. Personally I think Rob feels he is so superior to women, that he is not concerned with another woman in the fold (hence a little outcome from his "my women" speeches) But should he be? Lex apparently comes up with a new plan; I wonder if that has anything to do with picking another person instead of the intended person (which if you go by the teasers looks like it would be Jerri) My guess is entirely speculative of course
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63. "RE: "Under our Wing"" |
Well, hmm, what it *would* fit with is Jerri going next week (if she does go next week).Jenna says they need to take someone "under their wing." Well, no one listened to Jenna when she wanted to sit and talk at the RC, so... but anyway -- this type of situation also can sow seeds of distrust at the raided tribe. In S7 they were worried about Rupert saying too much over at Morgan. So if Jerri is alienating herself at Mogo; then gets invited off to Chapera's reward; and when she comes back they think she may have started cooking something up while she was gone -- they'd probably boot her next. So maybe yes...
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58. "RE: what the tree mail to Chapera says..." |
Jenna: The merge is coming, I can feel it. Knowing that now we're even numbers with the other tribe we need to kind of get someone under our wing maybe to have that advantage in numbers.
Rob: We're not losing.
Rupert: We're not losing.
Amber: We're not losing.The final 4, with the three LOSERS and the winner? Sorry, I just had to point it out.
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60. "RE: what the tree mail to Chapera says..." |
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-04 AT 05:25 PM (EST)Great catch BR. Final 4 right there. My first impression when I read need the sea to survive was that they thought it was a fishing contest, but I guess that's wrong because they think its a puzzle? Shi-ann once again would be the best person to pick because she has no past ties with anyone. If they brought one of the guys over I would be shocked because Rob doesn't like that kind of competition.
Whoever does go over is going to get a target on their back. Look what happened to Rupert last season. They didn't trust him totally because they felt he was making alliances whilst he was visiting. So if Ethan does come over, maybe that's why he is one of the next 3 to go. Same could be said for Jerri.
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03-11-04, 02:47 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: what the tree mail to Chapera says..." |
Just a thought....Could it be that Jenna misreads the tree mail? In her confessionals she then says, "The merge is coming...." This leads Cahppy to believe that this is for one person to grab immunity and not the whole tribe. I still think Chappy wins and Colby gets the boot!!
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62. "RE: what the tree mail to Chapera says..." |
BR,I like it! Nice catch!
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64. "RE: what the tree mail to Chapera says..." |
This almost to good not to wade in on. But I'll wade away.Nice pickup BR, if the speculation is to be believed that the foreshadowing of the final four is in the reading of the tree mail. Freaky stuff. Now, IMHO I see Rob taking Jerri, cuz of a few reasons. Shii is useless, she's an alliance jumper too. If the chappy's are led to think that the person they pick will stay until the reward challenge, they wouldn't consider her an asset to the next challenge, cuz there are two types of tribal challenges we haven't seen yet: Q&A and Gross food, which are challenges without the stupid sit out rule (worst rule ever!). Plus anything physical has been sat out for the majority by Shii, and Chapera has to have seen/noticed this. Colby would be a good choice, but I'm betting that the chappy's want Mogo to eliminate the biggest challenge whore of 'em all, and not have to wait until the merge to do it. Ethan is the very best pick for the viewer. Imagine that eh? Ethan in a tribe with ex-gf's Amber and Jenna and their new studmuffin Boston Rob PLEASE!!!!! let chapera pick Ethan. Kathy I think would be interesting, because she's the cagiest player left at Mogo, but this would lead one to think that she wouldn't reveal anything and would try and find the weak link at Chapera. Too good to be useful. Lex is too big a threat. He's cagey too, a little more upfront about it though. I just see the others at Chapera not wanting him over there because he's so damn charismatic. I can totally see him pulling a Rupert/Morgan thing where he could sway everyone except the robfaddah to believe his story. Leaving Jerri. Jerri had Amber in her hip-pocket in the outback, but now Amber is in Rob's. Making her another ally in Rob's harem? Think about it, wouldn't Rob think he would just cruise to victory in the individual immunities with all the ladies on his side? And it is his game play style, to go after the best lookin' women in his tribe. Adding a Playboy model ain't so bad. Course I'm probably wrong
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03-11-04, 03:29 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: More confusion for me!" |
Is this supposed to be the misleading treemail?Who could misread that? Maybe the Chaperas can't actually read?
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66. "That two-piece idol..." |
I only know what I've read here, but here's what Jeff didn't say......Tribe members choose someone from their own tribe, for whatever purpose. While the "pick your representative" theories are interesting, I don't think they get much support from Jeff's Mancow appearance. ...The chosen member joins the winning tribe at their camp, or on the reward challenge. He merely says that they don't have to go to TC. Unless I see a transcript or hear the audio, I don't see a kidnap coming. What I do see is further use of the two-piece Immunity Idol. After the challenge the winning tribe gets the Idol, and the opportunity to give one piece of it to a member of the opposing tribe. This member does not have to go to tribal council, but they will go to tribal council, just to cast a vote. If the tribe's are told of this twist before the challenge begins, then they have a least a few moments to consider the options. Certainly, the first thought would be to make sure the losers eliminate their strongest players.
In that case, it would be smart of the Chaperas to target Shii-Ann. If they don't give it any thought, they may choose Jerri, just because Jenna and Rupert suggest it.
These reality show contestants need a reality check!
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70. "RE: That two-piece idol..." |
I believe that you've got it Team Joisey! I agree, the winning tribe gets to choose someone who will be given immunity. No where in that little blurb do I foresee any exchange between tribes at all, no kidnappings, no trades, etc. I think everyone is trying to fit the bits and pieces to the spoiler projections. I think that it will probably be announced at the beginning of the RC/IC that the reward is a day trip on a yacht for the entire tribe, and additionally the winning tribe will get to pick a member of the losing tribe that does'nt have to go to TC.I think, given this scenario that the Chappy's will go with one of the weaker players, who I think are Shii-Ann and Jerri. The only way I can see Jerri getting picked over Shii is if Amber, having been very friendly with Jerri, really wants her to sit out the TC(perhaps she is hoping that Jerri will make the merge and join in on another secret alliance with Romber)
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03-11-04, 05:41 PM (EST)
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71. "There IS an abduction" |
This transcript was posted on Sucks:dazone1
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I have VIP access to Bob and Tom and decided to transcribe the part were he talked about tonight.. B&T: Can you tell us what to look forward to with out giving anything away.. Jeff: Tonight we did something we have never done before which is, one full episode takes place in 1 day usually we have 3 days and in trying to keep them off balance, ya know normally you have maybe a day or at least an afternoon sometimes you have a day-day and a half to scurry about to figure out who's going to go at Tribal council..because you've got another day left, so we decided will do everything in one day. So we have a challange that was for reward & immunity and in addition the reward allowed you to bring one person from the other tribe with you which kept them from Tribal council and kept them from being voted out, so it's probably the biggest stakes we've had yet in terms of a reward and umm it's brutal for the losing tribe but a great reward for the winning tribe..
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72. "RE: There IS an abduction" |
OMH!! So who will they pick BR? You still going with Shii Ann?
Still need to know if they get to participate in the next challenge like Rupert did.
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73. "RE: There IS an abduction" |
My gut still says Jerri must be at TC to vote out Colby, so I'm giving the edge to Shii Ann. But Jerri's my alternate.I have a feeling the abducted person won't be sticking around Chapera after the reward though. Not really sure.
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03-11-04, 06:25 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: There IS an abduction" |
If the Chappy's pick Ethan or Kathy that explains how Ethan makes the merge. If they pick Kathy that leaves Jerri and Shii as solid anti-Colby votes as well as Ethan. We know he'll vote out darn near anyone other than himself, but what better target than the person going after the "Big Guns." That would make him safe and necessary at Mogo Mogo until the merge. If he's at Camp Chappy he's strong, expendable, and an unwanted ally. Bob
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74. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
We know that Jerri does something to make her tribe really mad tonight, her tribe turns on her, the word "hate" was used. Just speculation, but could Jerri be the one who's give Immunity by Chapera? Perhaps each MM player gets to plead their case as to why they should have Immunity, this is where Jerri ticks off her tribemates. Open mouth, insert foot.Flaming is cool =)
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79. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-04 AT 07:14 PM (EST)There are some vidcaps at the Mogo tribe with all member around the fire SANS Kathy......Perhaps Kathy is the one picked by the Chappy's....I think Robfadda likes her. 
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80. "RE: episode 7 probst spoiler" |
Which would make for some interesting action, Flower Power, because we all know Kathy gets shirty when Lex makes decisions without her, and that's exactly what will have to happen if she's over on Chapera for a while.In other news, I need to take my camera over to our local strip mall where there's a restaurant called Mogo BBQ, which is seeming increasingly apt. The sign is in green, even. ::grin::
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