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"Team Upchuck loses again!"
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moonbaby 17120 desperate attention whore postings
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03-07-02, 12:25 PM (EST)
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"Team Upchuck loses again!"
Poor Charlie Squad voted out Wong! Am I wrong to think it should have been Crenshaw?

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 RE: Team Upchuck loses again! shakes the clown 03-07-02 1
   RE: Team Upchuck loses again! moonbaby 03-08-02 2
   RE: Team Upchuck loses again! SurvivinDawg 03-08-02 3
       RE: Team Upchuck loses again! Vicdon 03-08-02 4

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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings
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03-07-02, 05:24 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Team Upchuck loses again!"
You're rigth, it definitely should've been Crenshaw that got voted out last night, but not for the reasons you might think. Sure, he has been killed in every op and sure, he can't swim to save his own life (literally)....but, the reason I would get rid of him is because he is the SOLE reason they chose Wong when they went to the dossier room after their first loss.

Don't get me wrong, Wong was a good operator for the squad, but he was definitely the wrong choice at the time based on the already apparent lack of physical stregth that Charlie had. At the time they already had two older players in Crenshaw and whatever the guy's name was who was their first leader, I think it was Ed. Based on that, why would they take another experienced player (Wong) when there were plenty of physical specimins still available.

Look at every team that has been to the dossier room since Charlie, they have all taken the strongest and most athletic players available. Instead of Wong, Charlie could've had the German or this guy that Alpha picked up last night...both of those guys whould've been smarter picks than Wong based on what Charlie was lacking at the time.

Because of that alone I would've sent Crenshaw packing last night.


Also, did you notice how Alpha carried the stretcher as opposed to Charlie...that is why they were able to shave 7 minutes off of Charlie's time.

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moonbaby 17120 desperate attention whore postings
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03-08-02, 11:38 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Team Upchuck loses again!"
I had missed a couple of ahem, evolutions, and saw that Charlie was almost totally revamped, so they've been losing consistently and their replacement picks haven't helped much. I didn't see how those picks were influenced, so thanks for the info. Also noticed how Alpha hustled that stretcher all over the place while Charlie dragged it. Sheesh! Now with them down a man it's just gonna get worse. How bout Taylor taking himself out of the game? Someone ought to send that guy a rucksack, that would be too funny!

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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings
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03-08-02, 12:24 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Team Upchuck loses again!"
Don't get me wrong, Wong was a good operator for the squad, but he was definitely the wrong choice at the time based on the already apparent lack of physical stregth that Charlie had.

I must disagree with this. Perhaps they could've chosen better, but Wong was a good choice and dramatically improved Charlie squad.

Furthermore, Crenshaw volunteered to leave, but Wong absolutely insisted that he (Wong) be the one to go. We may not know the real reason why. There may have been an external factor and Wong just used the opportunity to get out (similar to what Taylor did... wait until the mission results before asking for his medical discharge).

I will have a LOT more to say about the mission times in my summary.

*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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Vicdon 14 desperate attention whore postings
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03-08-02, 02:09 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Team Upchuck loses again!"
Hats off to Wong for volunteering to go over Ossie, but the team should have overridden him and said that Ossie needs to go. I agree with Shakes that maybe they should not picked WOng due to physicalness, but he had loads of experience and added quite a bit to the team. The squad was just unlucky. Charlie has been my favorite team and it is really sad to see them lose like this. I hope they win at least on mission.
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