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"It's a good thing we're not stockbrokers..."
Auditor 21 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-01, 08:15 AM (EST)
 
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"It's a good thing we're not stockbrokers..." |
I prefer to think we've been misled, rather than the fact we're stupid.Thoughts on last night... If I'm not mistaken, we saw Whitlow crying with a DI in her face in a pre-commercial preview. Didn't see that in the rest of the show. And, I think I remember another preview from last week in which Whitlow says something about Wolf "sabotaging" her (the mint?). Again, not in this week's show. Speaking of (what I'll call) "The Great Mint Mystery" - WHY? What did it have to do with anything? First, I will admit I was thinking Whitlow would lose her amnesty because of it, and I actually gave credit to the producers for some creative thinking if they had. Then, nothing (except some extra PT). Even though it's nitpicking (but that's fun, right?), I'd like to "go to the videotape" for some mint hunting. Help me with this - mints are usually placed on pillows at NIGHT. Whilow puts her mint in her pack at night? The recruits were eating their MRE's at midnight and up again at 6:30am. Their beds were made, with no mints on them (tape review?). I think the mint was a plant for the following reasons. It was deep in Whitlow's foot locker. They all said nothing was hidden. Why would WHitlow perhaps lose her amnesty and a 50/50 shot at $500K for a lousy mint? And, again, we're misled with last week's "sabotage" comment which would fit well with the missing mint, and no real punishment results from what I assume to be a big army no-no - lying.
Another mission accomplished with seconds to spare. Creative timekeeping rivaled only by the '72 Olympic USA/USSR basketball final (or was it '76?).
Why would WHitlow vote for Moretti-with-an-aye? "Wolf is gone. So gone." How's that for taking a bullet? Worms? Rats? Pigs? Lawsuit? In regards to the mission, I wonder if the Boot Camp philosophy has gotten to them, and the "team" stuff really has sunk in. Again, there was no "game theory" reason to succeed, but they did. I was right that the DI would play with Wolf's head on the hill. Yea, one for me! I am still bothered by "The Great Mint Mystery"... Your thoughts out there?
"Recruit Wolf is not hungry, SIR!"
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-01, 09:27 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: It's a good thing we're not stockbrokers..." |
>I prefer to think we've been misled, rather than the fact
>we're stupid. DEFINITELY do NOT feel stupid. We've absolutely been misled. >Thoughts on last night...
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>If I'm not mistaken, we saw Whitlow crying with a DI
>in her face in a pre-commercial preview. Didn't see
>that in the rest of the show. And, I
>think I remember another preview from last week in which
>Whitlow says something about Wolf "sabotaging" her (the mint?). Again, not in this week's show. D.I. Rosenbaum did get in Whitlow's face with the "I'd be embarrased", but you're right, it didn't jibe with the other previews shown. >Speaking of (what I'll call) "The Great Mint Mystery" - WHY?
> What did it have to do with anything? First, I will admit I
>was thinking Whitlow would lose her amnesty because of it,
>and I actually gave credit to the producers for some
>creative thinking if they had. This kind of stuff happens in the real military all the time. One of the most common tricks is for the D.I.s to be checking the barracks in the morning. One brings in a cigarette butt and throws it on the bathroom floor, then calls in the squad leader and says "this bathroom is dirty", etc. etc. Everyone has an all night G.I. party, or some other form of punishment. In other words, the D.I.s planted the mint to harass Whitlow (who already had amnesty, btw). They wouldn't kick her out because they knew she really didn't do it. I will also submit to your attention that a very similar thing happened vis-a-vis Yaney's missing rope and carabiner. >results from what I assume to be a big army no-no - lying. Uh huh. Let me clue you in to reality. When I was an officer, my battalion commander was always saying not to trust what sergeants told us. In fact, he got downright insulting to the non-commissioned officers in the way he kept saying it. There was SOME truth in it, though, that while a sergeant (NCO) might not lie, he might not tell the whole truth, or might steer the conversational path away from a certain "tender" area. This battalion commander, by the way, did relieve the battalion command sergent major for lying about PT test results, so it's a "no-no" but not totally unexpected. >Another mission accomplished with seconds to spare. Creative timekeeping rivaled only by the '72 Olympic
>USA/USSR basketball final (or was it '76?). It was 1972, and we should've nuked Moscow for that, and never again participated in the Olympic Games (and that being said by someone who went to events in 1996 here in Atlanta). I agree about the timekeeping BUT I would point out that it may be more an issue of editing than actual timekeeping. For two weeks now, it seems to take half the mission to get a small part of the way, then suddenly tremendous ground is covered in an amazingly short period. According to the map posted to this board, they were going uphill over several MILES. Even without the obstacles, they would hardly have had time to cover that amount of terrain in the time allotted. Plus, it's supposed to be in hostile territory. Yeah, let's run pell-mell through hostile territory... Anyway, either the time was being creatively extended OR the editing was so poor that it looked strange. >Why would WHitlow vote for Moretti-with-an-aye?
> "Wolf is gone. So gone." How's that
>for taking a bullet? Bad editing again is part of it. A desire to mislead us is part of it. But I've stopped trying to figure out why somebody votes for someone or dismisses someone. Ask shakes for my reasons why.  >In regards to the mission, I wonder if the Boot Camp
>philosophy has gotten to them, and the "team" stuff really
>has sunk in. Again, there was no "game theory"
>reason to succeed, but they did. Agreed. I would again cry foul and point to scripting/interference by producers, but shakes might stop reading if I do.  >I was right that the DI would play with Wolf's head
>on the hill. Yea, one for me! Wolf gets away with a LOT of head movement up there. That's twice he's visibly shown relief when told it's not him. He's supposed to be at parade rest (with arms behind back) or attention (arms at sides). In either case, head and eyes are to be directly forward at all times. *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged I still predict Recruit Lemon wins.
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Auditor 21 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-01, 09:44 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: It's a good thing we're not stockbrokers..." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-10-01 AT 10:01 AM (EST)Thanks for the interpretations. I'll stop my Wednesday 10pm mental gymnastics and just enjoy the last show. My wife will appreciate my not waking her up anymore at 3am asking, "but WHY would Coddington take Yaney? WHY?". I was at the '96 games, too. Stood at ground zero one day before the bombing, in fact. After reading about the blast, I kinda felt like the air leaving one of Yaney's balloons. Always regretted not buying one of those Lithuanian Basketball T-shirts. Another observation - Wolf took over the mission, and Whitlow was happy to have him do it. Succeed at any cost for $500K.
"If life gives you Recruit Lemons, make Recruit Lemonade".
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BluSavana 694 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-01, 10:01 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: It's a good thing we're not stockbrokers..." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-10-01 AT 10:02 AM (EST)Y'all leave Recruit Lemon out of this, there are three recruits left, and even though the lil yellow guy is cute, I will still Rah-Rah for Jen. But just try squeezing that lemon, I'll sic McSweeney on you! BluSavana
*AM I dirty enough, Dawg, Sir???
God bless the Army! Stop eye-balling me Recruit Lemon! 
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Art Vandelay 58 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-01, 03:07 PM (EST)
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4. "Mint hoax?" |
In motels, the maid service leaves a mint on your pillow
after they make the bed. Since the DIs were there before the
recruits and would have taken the mints, and the recruits made their beds first thing in the morning, there shouldn't have been
any mints in the room. It sounds like Whitlow was set up.
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BluSavana 694 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-01, 03:32 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: It's a good thing we're not stockbrokers..." |
*looks at her array of ashtrays* yeah, you are right, Skyraider, its a girl-thang *smile* BLuGod bless the Army! Stop eye-balling me Recruit Lemon!
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Auditor 21 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-01, 04:00 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: It's a good thing we're not stockbrokers..." |
Let's settle this "Great Mint Mystery" once and for all.I called the Amelia Island Ritz Carlton in Jacksonville and spoke to the concierge. He told me that the standard issue pillow mint chain-wide is rectangular in shape, approximately 1.5" X .75" X .25" and wrapped in a red/silver faux-foil wrapper. (He added they have a slight nut-like flavor and are "scrumptious" melted in coffee or tea). He was adamant that all housekeeping staff, regardless of length of service or national origin, are issued the same, identical mints for pillow placing. I've reviewed last night's show numerous times at different speeds and have concluded the following - The only real shot we get of the mint in question is when the DI shoves it into Whitlow's mouth. In this recruit's opinion, judging by the way the mint sits between Whitlow's teeth, it appears to be rather square in shape, perhaps 1.5" X 1.5" X .25". Further, the wrapper appears more paper-like than foil, as well as green in tint. By the way, my TV had been color adjusted just last week; I have the receipt to prove it. Anyway, I then got a ruler out, and with the help of my father's slide rule, calculated the ratio of Whitlow's TV screen mouth to my wife's (under her protest), as well as the TV screen size of the mint. In light of the TV mint's shape and size my suspicions were confirmed. It appears the mint the DI shoved into Whitlow's mouth is not the same as those routinely used by the Ritz Carlton Amelia Island. Therefore, I believe we can agree to the fact that DI McSweeney stopped at the Piggly-Wiggly on the way back from the Ritz and picked up a box of Ande's mints with which he framed recruit Whitlow. Dissenting opinions are welcome. Respectfully submitted, Recruit Auditor "What hurts, Moretty?" "It's my butt, SIR!"
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Loree 8182 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-01, 04:18 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: It's a good thing we're not stockbrokers..." |
Auditor I am still laughing. The picture you put in my mind was hilarious. And I thought the mint was wrapped in something green also.
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05-10-01, 08:37 PM (EST)
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10. "You ARE mistaken" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-10-01 AT 08:38 PM (EST)I am very familiar with the previews, since I have watched both of them in slow-mo, and so I often recognize the shots used, even if they are very insignificant during the show... I usually watch the preview once through to get a taste of what it is like, then on slo-mo, stopping every few seconds to capture a frame, and then about 5 or 6 more times while I transcribe the audio, and double check all of my work...
>If I'm not mistaken, we saw
>Whitlow crying with a DI
>in her face in a
>pre-commercial preview. Didn't see
>that in the rest of
>the show.
The shots of Whitlow crying were definately in the episode, although they were hardly the focus of the scene, went by very quickly, and were edited in a different order.
And, I
>think I remember another preview
>from last week in which
>Whitlow says something about Wolf
>"sabotaging" her (the mint?).
>Again, not in this week's
>show.
Wrong again... if you check the transcript, one of the DI's says something about sabotaging the mission (which was seen in the episode) and then Wolf says he is not sorry about what he did, which also appears in the episode, although it is in reference to how he played the game, not in reference to any type of sabotage. Whitlow's only reference to Wolf is that he will not make it to the gauntlet, Moretty also discusses this. Both of these conversations appeared in the episode... apparently, the women thought that Moretti would take Wolf... apparently they did not count on his commitment to his alliance. Also, Whitlow made reference to "people sabotaging the mission"... this was in the episode (before the mission, while Whitlow was discussing the fact that she was nervous about the mission).
Tricky editing? YES
Missing shots? NO
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