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"The whole setup is so obviously phony"
Humble Bumpkin 20 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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06-02-09, 03:23 PM (EST)
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"The whole setup is so obviously phony" |
The show opens with the "celebrities" flying over the jungle for miles and miles, creating the illusion that they will be living far removed from civilization. Then they supposedly have to hike for hours on end (although we really just observe them trekking for a couple hundred feet) until they get to their camp. Which is apparently in the backyard of a comfortable resort, since there clearly are overhead lights on all night long, with remote-control cameras on posts all around the site... and where does the electricity come from to power these? Anybody hear a generator running? No, they simply have extension cords going fifty feet up to the nearby building. Even the supposed "daylight" seems very peculiar, while all of the plants around the various clearings look as if they were placed there by a careful landscaper, and there is nary an insect in sight (ever been someplace tropical after dark??).... all in all, the whole thing seems awfully hokey. Not to mention the "celebrities" showing up for their last big "task", all looking clean and dry with fluffy hair, as if they had just rolled off the bed in their posh hotel room. A huge contrast to being filthy, sweaty and soaked as they were five minutes earlier.Yeah, they're sweating it out, miles into the jungle, all right....
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Yet another big red flag.... |
Humble Bumpkin |
06-02-09 |
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RE: Yet another big red flag.... |
vince3 |
06-02-09 |
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RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica ... |
Humble Bumpkin |
06-02-09 |
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RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica ... |
Snidget |
06-02-09 |
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RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica ... |
vince3 |
06-02-09 |
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RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica ... |
kingfish |
06-02-09 |
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Hold On! |
foonermints |
06-03-09 |
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RE: Hold On! |
kingfish |
06-03-09 |
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Some Things |
foonermints |
06-03-09 |
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RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica ... |
vince3 |
06-03-09 |
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RE: Okay, if Costa Rica is on the ... |
Humble Bumpkin |
06-03-09 |
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Postscript |
Humble Bumpkin |
06-03-09 |
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RE: Postscript |
Snidget |
06-03-09 |
13 |
RE: Postscript |
AyaK |
06-03-09 |
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Agree |
Snidget |
06-03-09 |
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RE: Postscript |
Agman2 |
04-11-16 |
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Time zones |
AyaK |
06-03-09 |
22 |
Further hokiness |
Humble Bumpkin |
06-04-09 |
28 |
RE: Further hokiness |
AyaK |
06-04-09 |
29 |
RE: Further hokiness |
Snidget |
06-04-09 |
30 |
RE: Further hokiness |
AyaK |
06-04-09 |
31 |
RE: Further hokiness |
SurvivorBlows |
06-04-09 |
33 |
RE: Further hokiness |
Estee |
06-04-09 |
32 |
RE: Further hokiness |
SurvivorBlows |
06-04-09 |
34 |
RE: Further hokiness |
AyaK |
06-04-09 |
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RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica ... |
Agman2 |
04-11-16 |
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RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica ... |
Agman2 |
04-11-16 |
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true |
06-03-09 |
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kingfish |
06-03-09 |
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AyaK |
06-03-09 |
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RE: The whole setup is so obviously... |
Estee |
06-03-09 |
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RE: The whole setup is so obviously... |
AyaK |
06-03-09 |
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RE: The whole setup is so obviously... |
SurvivorBlows |
06-03-09 |
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RE: The whole setup is so obviously... |
kingfish |
06-03-09 |
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RE: The whole setup is so obviously... |
Snidget |
06-03-09 |
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RE: The whole setup is so obviously... |
AyaK |
06-03-09 |
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RE: The whole setup is so obviously... |
SurvivorBlows |
06-03-09 |
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RE: The whole setup is so obviously... |
AyaK |
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-02-09, 09:20 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica is further east than you think it is?" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-02-09 AT 09:21 PM (EST)*checks map* It is much more under Georgia than it is under Texas. Additionally the closer you are to the equator the more your day stays at 12 hours light 12 hours dark. The farther from the equator (especially near the solstice) you get sunset a lot later the farther North you go. So it could get dark there before it gets dark where you are. http://www.arenal.net/costa-rica-sunrise-sunset-time-table.htm
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-02-09, 09:27 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica is further east than you think it is?" |
According to that site, sunset hovers around 5:30pm. That's over 2 hours of darkness before the show goes "live"........
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foonermints 13298 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 00:09 AM (EST)
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7. "Hold On!" |
I was lost once in Costa Rica, and let me tell you, it was horrible! I wandered away from my lodge and was instantly devoured by crazy big plants and tree roots that grew so fast I swear they chased my Gucci sneakers deliberately into The Heart of Darkness. I tottered around, dazed and disoriented and ready to die, until, by the Hand of God, I bumped into another, fancier lodge with larger rooms, free drinks and a 5 star Zagat rated buffet. Being so exhausted from my ordeal, I booked there instead, just to rest my frayed and bloodied nerves.Worst 7½ minutes of my LIFE.
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kingfish 18933 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 08:04 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Hold On!" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-03-09 AT 08:04 AM (EST)Oh gosh, hidden memories are resurfacing, horrible memories. Now I remember that I was once captured by Costa Rican Pygmies who tied me up with knots so complicated that I couldn't immediately untie myself. And I was despairing. It seemed that my fate was either to be boiled up in a cannibal's stew or fed to their pet jaguars. But at the last moment, I remembered that I had credit cards in my wallet, and was able to put my deposit down for a four star rain forest vacation. With complimentary mango tangos (I think I saw the Fooners by the pool). It turned out that those short gentle people actually loved and worshipped me. But it was scary for a while, I'll tell you boy! When Janice purses her lips, does anyone else think what I think? (Hemorrhoids? Sorry for that mental picture.)
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 00:42 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica is further east than you think it is?" |
Okay, if Costa Rica is on the same time zone as Chicago, then, the sunset is at 6:30 EST. That's still around 90 minutes since sunset until the show goes "live"......... plenty of time for the sky to get dark.
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 08:47 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Postscript" |
Gosh golly gee, none of us here really believe reality TV is actual reality.However given the location and the nearness to the equator as well as the published sunset times it does seem the sun could actually set at a different time there than at your house. I do believe a heck of a lot of it is fake, but I do think the people in Costa Rica are right when they say the sun sets when it does. I mean, they should know, right? Have you ever traveled significantly north or south of your home during June? The sun sets at very different times depending on how close to the equator/poles you are this time of year, really. Go far enough north you can sunbathe at midnight this time of year, but at the equator the sun rises and sets about 12 hours apart all year round.
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AyaK 10394 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 03:02 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Postscript" |
Speidi's here-again, gone-again stunts cast more doubts about the "reality" of this program than the time of sunset does.
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AyaK 10394 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 06:36 PM (EST)
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22. "Time zones" |
Let's look at degrees of longitude.Chicago: 87° 54' W longitude Texas (not sure where you are): Dallas: 96° 51' W Abilene: 99° 41' W Midland: 102° 11' W So clearly it gets dark about an hour or so later in Texas than in Chicago. Costa Rica: San Jose: 84° 04' W In other words, San Jose is located EAST of Chicago. How much east? Saginaw, MI 83° 93' W Lansing, MI 84° 54' W Think of Costa Rica as being in the center of Michigan, because it would get dark at about the same time (although, as Snidget points out, it would actually get dark a little earlier because it's south of the Tropic of Cancer). The absence of natural light during the live segments is thus not at all suspicious.
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Humble Bumpkin 20 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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06-04-09, 06:04 AM (EST)
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28. "Further hokiness" |
Ignoring the fact that, once again, the sun was high in the bright blue sky here in Beaumont, TX... while the background was pitch black "LIVE IN COSTA RICA"...we watched the 2nd episode last night, recorded because it was SO much more tolerable with Fast Forward (don't think we'll be suffering thru another one).... pardon my perspective, but, since I once dabbled in film production, I found the "task" of scrounging for wooden stars in the Closet of Icky DOOM to be quite telling. Much time was spent showing cutaway closeups of rats, spiders and snakes, but when a "celebrity" was in the darkened room, you could NOT see ANYTHING moving anyhere in there besides them. Closeup of a pile of snakes on a table, cut to a quick shot of a bewildered Speidi, quivering in the darkness (bag of feathers spills from ceiling), then a shot of some rats with somebody's hand right next to them. The walls and tables and other props were clearly bare and devoid of movement every time you could see the entire room- because there was NOTHING else alive in there! Also noticed how a near-frantic Damien wouldn't let one of them go back in for a better look after the door was open ("No, you can't go back for more stars"). Hmmmm.... Plus, they certainly went to a lot of trouble to make fancy Industrial Strength (dare I say Resort Style) suspension bridges and stuff, just for these folks.... and they sure have some nicely terraced, stone walkways leading down to the water's edge, way out there in the middle of the jungle.....
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AyaK 10394 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-04-09, 08:56 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: Further hokiness" |
I'm sure they're in Costa Rica. If they weren't, it would be all over TMZ.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-04-09, 10:40 AM (EST)
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33. "RE: Further hokiness" |
They're definitely in Costa Rica. They're filming at a 500-acre rainforest ecolodge in the Sarapiqui Rainforest Preservation Area. The production offices are based at a second nearby location.
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-04-09, 10:19 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Further hokiness" |
The confessional area is very likely a nearby partial set designed to look like a nightzone, though: there's no way they're holding off on 90% of the private talks until just after midnight.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-04-09, 10:43 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Further hokiness" |
I'm pretty sure the confessional zone is the small green outhouse-like shed we saw John opening the door of when he was trying to talk to Janice last night. And my guess is there's more than one.
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AyaK 10394 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-04-09, 10:53 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Further hokiness" |
That's an idea borrowed from JT Roth's "Survivor on teenage hormones" (description courtesy of Estee) show Endurance. He put a confessional shed right next to the living space, so that the kids didn't have to use up their limited "filming hours" traipsing off to the jungle or somewhere else for a confessional.
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Agman2 2587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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04-11-16, 03:19 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica is further east than you think it is?" |
Hah Bumble, you got told.
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Agman2 2587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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04-11-16, 03:18 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Maybe, just maybe, Costa Rica is further east than you think it is?" |
Wow, we're in the presence of someone who thinks they know everything about location and weather. Bill Nye the science guy is looking for an assistant. You should apply.
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kingfish 18933 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 03:30 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: The whole setup is so obviously phony" |
This is an EPMB production, right?He must think viewers (us) are real idiots who will watch just any old patched together BS survivor reality show, as long as there are ridiculous and/or outrageous characters to mock. And he's right. And swimming in money in his rightness.
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AyaK 10394 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 05:48 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: The whole setup is so obviously phony" |
This is not an EPMB production. Burnett said years ago (back when the ABC version was done) that he would never be involved with something so fake.
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kingfish 18933 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 09:40 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: The whole setup is so obviously phony" |
It's too much fun dumping on Burnett to quit just because he didn't do it. Details.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-03-09, 07:17 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: The whole setup is so obviously phony" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-03-09 AT 07:33 PM (EST)I can't speak to ongoing Speidi antics and NBC has done a remarkably crappy job of explaining basic things like the show's rules to viewers, but the I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here! format has never claimed to be an authentic (for lack of a better word) Survivor-like camping situation. I'm a Celebrity's campsite is a real campsite in the same way that Big Brother's house is a real house. Yes, they're camping in a jungle terrain area, but it's not like the production folks just happened to throw some camping supplies in a random clearing and walk away -- they built a set of sorts, complete with some things like some mounted cameras, lights and some limited protection from the elements (I think the ABC version had some canopy tarps) and a single toilet (which NBC actually showed the celebrities mentioning in the premiere). I believe the U.K. show is actually still using the exact same Austalian location that the ABC edition also used all these years later.
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