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"Episode 12 Hidden Clues"
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07-30-02, 09:47 PM (EST)
 
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1. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
OMG... Bill's shirt is torn and Heather is lost and cursing up a storm.
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07-30-02, 10:23 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Just posted this in the Heather clue thread, but I noticed several things. Firstly, in the previews, Katie says, "The mole is Heather." As I've been saying, after Elavia went, she went for Bill. Bill isn't the mole, therefore, and Katies knows it. Heather double crossed her. She never suspected Dot, and so it's Heather.What concerns me when watching that scene, however. Is that Bribs says it's Bill. Darwin says Dot. Now, I'm wondering if Bribs voted for Heather. I know he and Darwin had a coallition. I can say with confidence, it's not Bill based on my Katie theory (watch it be Bill now...) Another clue I found was actually for Dot. In the end, with the fire, the fire reflected off of Dot's eyeglasses, and looked kinda devilish. Like, there was this fire in her eyes. (oooh scary. *giggles* Hey it COULD very well be a clue.) Bill gave back the potential clue. I think this says, he's not the mole. He's seemed excited about the pot the whole time. If you were the mole, would you care about money? You could look like a helpless player and get the clue. There have been dogs shown in many episodes, and I'm wondering if it's symbloism? I know none of the remaining players have dogs, and I had thought it may go to Al since he had a pet. Anything astrological or anything of the sort? Also, Heather passing all the blame onto Bill for the questions. I knew the answer. I knew he would say Heather would be alone and she would sleep with someone for gain. It just seems more Heather than Dorothy. Moleish? It was also revealed that Heather and Dot did take out Al and Bribs (as suspected.) Now, this makes me wonder, obviously, one or the other is confident about the mole. They both seem very gung ho about 2 girls making it. This makes me wonder if because they have so much in common, either Dorothy or Heather (whomever the mole is,) felt a connection with the other, and has been knocking out players 1 by 1 in order to be assured their friend will make it to the end. It intrigued me, as well, how Heather was jumping at knowing she would be most likely to lie to a loved one. She quickly covered it up. The mole is all about lying, right? As I've said, the Pisces clue is not valid. People say all the religious is inevitable in Italy. Fish are religious, and you'll find them in many churches, cathedrals, and chapels in Italy. Because, there were many parables about Jesus and the fish. Now, they've zoomed in on angels, the Holy Family, and everything else. I just don't see Bill being the mole. Winner, maybe. Mole, no. 
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cyclehausen 1197 desperate attention whore postings
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07-30-02, 11:57 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
They "try" to show Heather upset. Face it, there are 2 young girls who have spent 6 weeks with this old guy who tries to touch them, they know he is the mole, and despite being competitors, they are good friends. Could the 3 questions game have been any more boring??
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07-31-02, 02:56 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
In the last Mole, in the final show Kathryn says that in the last game that was played, she was trying to help them get more money (which they didn't) There is no deceiving the final two, because they already know who the Mole is, So as far as Bill, turning down the opportunity to open the Mole's portfolio, even the Mole (whether Bill or not) would not have opened it, they were winning that money reguardless in my opinion.If your not the mole and you get to the portfolio first, like I said you already know the moles identity and there is a real chance that that extra 100,000 bucks could be yours. So you would never open it. If you are the mole, you already know that the two others have identified you as the Mole, there is really no more deceiving them, there is no need to blatently take that kinda of money from them. Its like a gift from the mole  and if your ABC $660000 pot looks better then $560,000, I really think they were getting that 100k reguardless, just my thoughts
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07-31-02, 03:32 PM (EST)
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90. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
I think ABC is pointing to Bill to track people off. I firmly believe that its Dot. I mean, IF Bill was the mole, would he have had so much trouble finding that dumb castle? seriously...
Also, I think Heather is just too damn emotional to be the mole. I mean, jeeza! Haha the boar thing was freaky....
And Dorothy has always been Miss "I never hike and walk and run.." and she did that thing in no time. Sure, she didnt win, but she was close, and she barely looked winded.
Also, dont you think Bill would be a boring mole? he never did anything exciting and for him to be the Mole would be disappointing to me.
At least, this is what I think.
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TheBoredGuy 49 desperate attention whore postings
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07-31-02, 03:51 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
"I mean, IF Bill was the mole, would he have had so much trouble finding that dumb castle? seriously..."Possibly. The producers don't tell the mole everything about every game. Kathryn said that last year in the reunion show. The reason? They do want the mole to look like a regular player from time to time, and one good way to ensure that is by not giving him (or her) inside info. Someone else said this somewhere in this thread - once Bill got too far off track, he conveniently got a "local" to take him where he needed to go. And the castle was the shortest distance to the secret location. "And Dorothy has always been Miss "I never hike and walk and run.." and she did that thing in no time. Sure, she didnt win, but she was close, and she barely looked winded." For all we know, Dorothy's path could have been the easiest in terms of physical difficulty. We know Bill's and Heather's weren't, and all we saw of Dorothy was her walking on a raod getting barked at by small dogs. "Also, dont you think Bill would be a boring mole? he never did anything exciting and for him to be the Mole would be disappointing to me." That's the point. If the mole brought a ton of attention to him/herself, wouldn't it become blatantly obvious?
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07-30-02, 10:20 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Thats one thing that caught my eye, Bill and Heather where lost and they where tired and sweaty. But Dorothy was not. She didn't seem tired at all.. DOROTHY IS THE MOLE...
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07-31-02, 11:32 AM (EST)
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76. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Here was my line of thinking.They did not tell Bill, the Mole, how to get to the castle. He got lost and went the wrong direction. To help him out, they send a "local" to pick him up and bring him to the right place. From there on out, he is the closest according to the GPS so, gets there first. Simple as that. He had to be all worn out and sweaty and bloody in order for Dorothy and Heather to not be suspicious. If he got there way in advance, it would not have looked good, but they still wanted him there first. Let him try and send a car if he needs it. As for Dorothy, she was just walking at a leisurely pace on a road mostly for 4.5 miles. It is not suspicios to me that she was not out of breath too much. During think or sink, she was running through the streets in the hottest part of the afternoon, plus was overacting to draw attention to herself so others would think she is the mole.
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07-31-02, 12:12 PM (EST)
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80. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
I agree. I was believer that AL was the mole, and until last night, I thought it was Bill. Dorothy changed that last night. She has been so bad at anthing physcial so far that the game last night seemed inpossible for her to do. She never once got lost. She didn't get tired or sick???
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07-30-02, 11:01 PM (EST)
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21. "Animal Symbolism" |
I thought of the black cat immediately from Episode 6. We have had a lot of animal images... Some stronger than others.The Black Cat
The Spider
Packs Of Dogs
Flies
Mouse (he he he) That's all I can think of now...
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Quotes of the week:
1. "Al, do you think you could move just a little?"-Myra
2. "Ewww... Patrick, no... I don't want to see that."-Heather
3. "I really hope Darwin doesn't realize I have a coalition with Dorothy, or... that could be bad."-Lisa
4. "Gas station attendants... They no NOTHING about flat tires... Let's ask these tourists!"-Darwin
5. "I swear, Rob, if this freaks me out I'm gonna punch you."-Anderson
6. "Those hills are a b!tch."-Anderson
7. "Um, thanks guys for not liking me!" (waves the $ at them)-Elavia
8. "They do look like piercing blue eyes, Heather, but I don't get it. He's totally making out with (that girl)."- Bribs
9. "I was a little surprised when Anderson came into my room in a suit. He usually just comes into my room in his pajamas, just his bottoms usually."-Darwin
10. "Man, I'm screwed."-Dorothy
11. (creepily) "Tiny bubbles... In my wine... Makes me happy."-Anderson
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07-31-02, 07:55 AM (EST)
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59. "RE: Animal Symbolism" |
And did you catch how dogs kept barking at Dorothy, and she kept shushing them? As far as I noticed (I don't tape) dogs only barked at her. Of course, she was wearing the big cat hood...would they be that obvious?! DIZWIZ
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07-30-02, 10:20 PM (EST)
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4. "Dorothy clue" |
Dorothy was the only player, I believe, who was not shown using their mouse.
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07-30-02, 10:37 PM (EST)
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11. "Bill's lack of nervousness" |
It's funny that you mention Heather not being nervous in her confessional b/c I always think it's Bill who doesn't seem nervous. Maybe he just not a very emotional person, but even at executions, I never think he looks that nervous. He may be the mole, but if he is then he's not hiding well. If I was the mole, I'd at least try a relieved look when I found out I was safe.
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TheBoredGuy 49 desperate attention whore postings
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07-30-02, 10:40 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Dorothy clue" |
Heather's attitude in her confessional came across to me as more of the "Screw this, I don't care anymore" attitude as opposed to lack of nervousness. Could be a good acting job, of course, but considering what she went through in the previous two episodes, what with losing 2 possible exemptions... if she's not the mole, that can weigh pretty heavily on your already-fragile emotions.
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07-31-02, 00:00 AM (EST)
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37. "Good research, but...." |
How is this eerily close to the story of the mole?
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07-30-02, 10:53 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Are u kidding me all u Billfomo's and Dotfomo's? HEATHER IS THE MOLE!!! She is stressing out and crying like Kathryn and the Mole's job is stressful!!! Heather is the mole, I am 75 % sure of it.
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07-31-02, 00:44 AM (EST)
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42. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Are you certain it was an arrow? An arrow pointing upwards is the glyph(symbol) for the sign of sagittarius. I believe Dorothy is a Sagittarius, but I guess the opening credits has given us our answer.
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07-30-02, 10:49 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
During the opening credits of the episode when AC is describing the game we get to the part "At the end of each show the contestents take a quiz to the id of the mole" and they show a couple of quiz questions. The first question isWhat is the mole's occupation? The only time this was asked was episode 2 and here is how it showed up: 2. What is the mole's occupation:
Ski Instructor
Sales
Account Supervisor at a Public Relations agency
Corporate Attorney
US Naval Nurse
City Manager
Musician/Freelance
Rear Admiral U.S. Navy - Retired
Teacher
Freelance Videographer
Assistant U.S. Attorney/Ballpark Vendor Distribution Center Day Manager
Airline Pilot Well, this time the first answer was Doctor. Bill is the only doctor but he was refered as Rear Admiral U.S. Navy - Retired.
This has to be the hidden clue.
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07-30-02, 11:00 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
According to ABC patrick was a City Manager. Plus the onsy time the question was asked "doctor" was not one of the answers. Where did this come from if they didn't make it for the clue.
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malibubarbie 434 desperate attention whore postings
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07-30-02, 11:03 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
I could have sworn there was something about Patrick being a doctor. Whoops. Okay, my bad. But, Bill wouldn't be classified a doctor, and if they said that as a clue, it wouldn't make sense. Because, Bill wouldn't fall under the title of a doctor. Granted, surgeons are doctors. However, there would be a /Rear Admiral. I don't see it, but if you do, that's cool too.
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07-30-02, 11:30 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
I'm talking about a shot of a quiz question during the opening credits. The first question shown was:What is the Mole's occupation?
Doctor
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anixon 38 desperate attention whore postings
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07-31-02, 00:08 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Sorry to burst your bubble, but this isn't a clue. On every quiz just about they throw in extra answers that don't pertain to anybody. Like someone's annoying habit is really collecting ear wax to make sculptures from. They just add in answers to confuse the players. Sorry! 
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07-31-02, 09:07 AM (EST)
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65. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Actually, that is someone's bad habit, you can find it in Bribs' profile.>>Bad habits: Collects ear wax<< Link to his profile on the Official Mole Page. I remember him talking about it more, but I can't remember where. Was it on the show? It's not in his exection chat. Hmm. 
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07-30-02, 11:04 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
what i have to say may not be a clue but it struck me as wierd. in the previews for next episode they said "the eleven eliminated players..." while they said this they showed their pictures, but elavia wasnt shown. and more to that, she was the only player eliminated, the others were executed. why didnt they show elavia? could she still be the mole? i know she cant. i still say heather. thats just a pure guess. any thoughts on why elavia wasnt shown?
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07-31-02, 00:22 AM (EST)
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40. "RE: Supposed?" |
man, this really takes the fun out of the game now. i just hate to accept bill as the mole, especially with so many clues pointing at him. are they any clues point to heather and dorothy?
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07-31-02, 01:04 AM (EST)
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45. "RE: Supposed?" |
NO BootyUP, don't give up...you and I are the only ones who know the truth! You clapped for Tink, didn't ya, when you were a kid? And why? Because you believed, that's why! Don't give up now. Here, let me share my observations this week to bolster your hope. Even if next week we Heather-believers are the laughing stock of the board, this week, we may still be right!Anyway, here it goes: The 3 Questions Game- Whenever Heather was a part of the searching team, the correct answer ration fell. Now, I know that this is a pretty shabby clue, but when Bill and Dorothy were on their own, they got 2 out of 3 correct. Put Heather into the mix, and the ratio fell to 1 out of 3 and 0 out of 3. Out of those wrong answers, Heather either insisted, agreed, or conceded each time. Up to now, Heather has not hesitated to state when she agrees with an action or disagrees, and has been very vocal and insistent when she felt something needed to be thought out more carefully or changed. All in all, it was unHeather behavior for her to give over on so many questions. The GPS Game- Heather has talked about her love of physical activity in the past and her love of sports...Did you see any of that tonight? First she takes the Pond Parfait, which the name alone suggests is the creampuff route, at least in the first leg. Before they left the restraunt, I knew from the clue that that was the one that would be easier, at least in the beginning, just based on the name. But poor Heather, the sports lover, staggers into the closest distance and miserably retrieves her GPS. She then takes off on her task, but somehow ends up miserable and lost by dark in "a ------- woods", where she announces that "some wild boar's going to jump out at me at any second", she hates the game, she's moving to Texas, and, I don't know, her shoes hurt. Anyway, she sits down to throw a tantrum about how awful it all is, and a wild boar sure 'nuff does "attack" her. I don't know, I think Heather could make a mint after all of this working with Miss Cleo...or she slipped up and just announced that she knew she was going to have to shriek in a minute and jump into the arms of the cameraman for safety. Or she had script handy when they played the sounds of a boar, but that's just an old woman's cynacism showing. Then Heather, you know, the outdoorsy one, gets a ride up to the end of the game, where she tells her fellow players she was attacked by "a dog or something", and tells a heartbreaking tale of how she was bitten in the face by a dog as a child and had to have 30+ stiches. Anybody else not see any scars on poor Heather? For that matter, she knows that there might be wild boars in them thar hills, she gets attacked by wild boars in them thar hills, but all of a sudden she blathering out some story about dogs and dog bites and her traumatic childhood? Just for the sake of the whole "Bill is the Mole because when you lift the left foot of the barking dog that Dorothy saw there's a tatoo of the number 12 and that was how old Bill was when he went into the Navy and so he must be the Mole" theory, I watched the opening credits again and paused it as instructed. I want to thank you for showing me how to stare at my lovely Anderson longer, but other than that...nothing. Sometimes, Anna, a cigar is just a cigar...and an opening credit is just an opening credit. So hang in there, Heather-believers, I think next week will be our week!
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07-31-02, 01:35 AM (EST)
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49. "RE: Supposed?" |
I know just what you're saying, BootyUp. If it helps, I have a college friend who worked on the last two, and he says there saying in the offices that 3 is a go. It should be announced next Tuesday or, at the latest, Wednesday. American Idol, or something like that, put a dent in the first few ratings, but then the show bounced back. It's production cost is lower than the commercials that purchase time in it, and that's always a big plus. Anderson Cooper has already said that if filming can take place in October/Nov. he could continue without disrupting the day job, so now, we just have to wait it out.I have gut feeling that Bill is going to win this thing. Dorothy seems to lose her cool at the worst times, and if it does come down to a time/answer tie-breaker, I just think that Bill is better suited for that. Can't wait for the last show tho!
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07-31-02, 10:23 AM (EST)
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68. "RE: Supposed?" |
This is amazing this changes my whole thing about
Heather being the mole. Bill is the mole
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07-30-02, 11:35 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Episode 12 Theeee Hidden Clue" |
if you will notice above bill's name it says "HOd" which can stand for heather or dorothy. im just trying to figure out any possible ways to point away from bill but the clues do add up and he has done some sort of sabotage in every episode. maybe he is the mole. i still say heather.
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07-30-02, 11:41 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Episode 12 Theeee Hidden Clue" |
I think this very important clue is just the icing on the cake for us BillFOMOs. Bill acted, in Episode 12, the EXACT same way that Kathryn would have acted, if she were the Mole this season. Last season, the Hotel game was the last game. Kathryn said, in the final episode, that her main objective was to become the 'hero' throwing suspicion off herself. Bill did not look at the folder, thereby earning 100K for the pot... becoming the hero. I also firmly believe that Bill is the Mole from SEVERAL blatant clues, such as the picture clue above, and the numerous BILL IS THE MOLE clues. Coupled with the pictures of ships, Rear Admiral clues... I think there is no possible way that the Mole could not be Bill.
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07-31-02, 00:16 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Episode 12 Theeee Hidden Clue" |
Thank you! Finally someone who isn't in denial. Bill is the Mole People..plain and simple. It's spelled out for us, you just have to open up your eyes and see it. I don't know why people keep insisting Heather or Dot when it is clear as day that Bill is the Mole. Why else would they take the extra step to include Admiral or Bill is the Mole in the opening? Sure, some would say to throw suspicion towards Bill making us surprised at who the real Mole is..sorry, I don't believe that. I didn't see Admiral nor Bill is the MOle when I first watched it. In fact, I got a call from my bro telling me to look in the same place admiral was...and that's how I found it. It's not evident to most. To most home viewers who have the Internet, it's just not evident..sorry. It's only evident to us who have the Internet and who have a Tivo, Dish, or a good VCR. The hidden clue tonight was "Bill is the MOle!"
The other not so hidden clue was Bill saying I know who the Mole is while pounding his chest. He was pointing to himself saying he's the Mole and he's certain he knows who it is. There ya go! Sorry to spoil it for those who still believe Dot or Heather is the Mole. Dot is the winner and Heather is executed next. Heather got so flustered this last game she totally lost all touch with reality and let the quiz slide by her. Dot has had composure all through the game and will most definitely win it all. Should she win? Nope, she's the most worthless out of all of them. Heather should win, but it won't play out that way. So after having said this..I guess we will all have to Stay Tuned!
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07-31-02, 06:09 AM (EST)
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55. "RE: Episode 12 Theeee Hidden Clue" |
I am constantly offended by people who post about the worthiness of one player to win, even if that person has made it to the end. In this show (more than Survivor) is is entirely based on knowledge. It is a concrete winner--no one can argue about who "should" win, because it all comes down to a concrete quiz. For Dorothy to make it to the end proves that she is worthy, because the game is based on the quizzes. I am offended by anyone who claims that someone is "worthless" in this game. There is no question--if you can dodge the executions and make it to the end and then come out ahead on the quiz, there is no doubt about someone's worth in the game. That is what this game is all about. anixon can go suck an egg.
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58. "RE: Episode 12 Theeee Hidden Clue" |
Anixon... First of all, CHILL! You've never been on the mole, so you have no place to be calling a contestant worthless.Second, I'm in a state of confusion as to who the mole is. After Al got executed, I thought I would be a 100% Billfomo. However, ABC is doing a LOUSY job editing him away from being it. Look at the situation. Last year, a coalition and the mole made it to the end. Look at this year's results. Plus, everything that comes out of Heather and Dorothy's mouth is about Bill blantantly sabotaging games. Even if you've NEVER seen any of the online clues before, you should know who that Bill is the mole by now. But does ABC want us to know who the mole is? If it's Bill, they obviously DO!!!
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Quotes of the week:
1. "Al, do you think you could move just a little?"-Myra
2. "Ewww... Patrick, no... I don't want to see that."-Heather
3. "I really hope Darwin doesn't realize I have a coalition with Dorothy, or... that could be bad."-Lisa
4. "Gas station attendants... They no NOTHING about flat tires... Let's ask these tourists!"-Darwin
5. "I swear, Rob, if this freaks me out I'm gonna punch you."-Anderson
6. "Those hills are a b!tch."-Anderson
7. "Um, thanks guys for not liking me!" (waves the $ at them)-Elavia
8. "They do look like piercing blue eyes, Heather, but I don't get it. He's totally making out with (that girl)."- Bribs
9. "I was a little surprised when Anderson came into my room in a suit. He usually just comes into my room in his pajamas, just his bottoms usually."-Darwin
10. "Man, I'm screwed."-Dorothy
11. (creepily) "Tiny bubbles... In my wine... Makes me happy."-Anderson
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118. "RE: Episode 12 Theeee Hidden Clue" |
How can you possibly say she is worthless OR undeserving? This boggles my mind, the game is NOT about the assignments. I am getting sick of people who do not understand games like this or Survivor or anything else always saying how this person deserves to win because he or she is more athletic. Let me tell you that even though I am not completely worthless physically, I am not that athletic, and I take offence to people who say that brawn is more important than brain in a game of knowledge. I mean, are we supposed to completely discount the fact that she saved the day in the smart/dumb team challenge? Let's see Heather do that.And as for having "Bill is the mole" spelled out for us HeatherFOMOs and us being closed-minded, let me tell you that after a year-long stint as a KatieFOMO and a one-week stint as a DarwinFOMO, I spent a little while in the Billuminati camp, but I changed my mind when I went through the series episode by episode and realized that (hidden clues aside) a case for Heather can be built that is at least as strong as the case for Bill, see the various Heather is the mole threads to find my reasoning. And if Bill turns out to be the mole, I can accept the all the "I told you so"s, because even IF he is the mole, I can assure you that it is not obvious, and all the Heather- and DotFOMOS do not think the way they do just because they don't want to accept Bill as the mole.
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07-31-02, 04:21 PM (EST)
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94. "RE: Episode 12 Theeee Hidden Clue" |
Well, for one, I also had noticed the Bill saying I know who the mole is while touching himself in last ep’s promo. The mole’s Bill. I do not agree that D is worthless though. She’s the brightest one of them all even though physically she may be the weakest. She did manage to make it this far, if she’s worthless, then what does it say about the other contestants who’ve been booted? If she wins, she deserves to win. She also seemed fortunate to find the main road rather easily and just had a nice stroll to the goal, it’s rather hard to become overly tired just doing that. It may just be a function of her mission being the easiest, or she might be the mole, but I do not believe that. Heather panicked, and believe me, stress can increase a person’s fatigue.
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07-31-02, 02:18 AM (EST)
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52. "Unless these are red herrings..." |
remember, the average Joe is not sitting there replaying his vcr and getting screen shots. All these technological clues are aimed at US and most of the Bill clues are these kinds of clues. So yes, it could be Bill, or it could just be someone messing with with the internet crowd to throw us off. I'm hoping it's not Bill. 
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46. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
First time posting to hidden clues. I didn't see any.But wait!! Here's ABC leading us in other directions. Heather talks about Dorothy and her eliminating Bribs, then Al. The logical conclusion to what she says is that she and Dot are the last two competitors for the prize. Once again, ABC wants to shove Bill down our throats. I ain't buyin' it. Second, Bill just about kills himself to get the final clue, then sacrifices himself to add money to the pot. Is this because of last year's pattern ala Kathryn? No, Bill is genuinely excited about the money and knows who the Mole is - of course by this point everyone knows who the mole is and they may have known for awhile. And, they all know it isn't Bill. Third, Heather almost kills herself in the wilderness and is starting to become psychotic. She actually walks the wrong way in her quest. At the time I say to myself - aha - perfect, she's sabotaging the pot. But, then I see how the money is being earned. So, is it all a ruse to influence me as a dumb viewer (I know all of you are much better at this than me)? And, the answer is maybe because there's no logical reason for her to not find the dosier unless she's not the Mole. Unless of course ABC is doing a 180 from last year's Kathryn. Hmmm - could they be that devious? Probably not - I don't think they're any smarter than me so they probably ran it the same way as last year - the Mole earns money in the last challenge. Fourth, Dorothy grew in suspicion tonight. She actually almost emerged victorius in a physical challenge. That alone is very suspicious to me. She also seemed to have the easiest path to the end once she found her GPS. She seemed to be the only one not walking through field and stream to get to the end. So, does this all mean something? Only to me I suspect. I only state it all to delude myself into continuing in my quest for
AnybodybutBillFOMO. And, thorugh it all I remain a steadfast HeatherFOMO. Unless, of course it's Dorothy. 
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07-31-02, 01:21 AM (EST)
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47. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
EXACTLY!!Now convince my nephew who is still trying to lift the left foot of that barking dog, therby proving that the number 12 is tatooed there. Bill wouldn't have contributed to the pot if he were the mole. If he had been, and he managed to make it to the site first, he would have said "No" to the money, and read the file to throw the viewers off. Nope, we get Heather fighting for survival as her batteries die and no man around to save her...Oh God, the terror! Of course, by the time she reaches the other players, she can't even remember what the heck was trying to kill in the woods: "I don't know if it was a dog or what." "I was attacked by dogs once as a child...." "I have always relied on the kindness of men...". Gee Blanche, I thought it was just a game.
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07-31-02, 02:23 AM (EST)
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53. "Possible clue in the preview???" |
I thought I saw Dorothy wearing a black coat in next week's episode.Wasn't Kathryn wearing a black coat in last season's last episode? (It doesn't look like it's cold out there--why the black coat?)
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07-31-02, 02:43 AM (EST)
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54. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Sittem, you hid it on the head. Bill did everything he could to get to the place and get the dossier. He seemed VERY interested in the money AND confident that he knows Dorothy is The Mole.Dorothy, was the one that acted the Kathryn role in that she did her best to win the money for the pot. This is by far the worst physical player we have ever seen, even admitted by her. THEN, all of a sudden, she does all she can to make it there, with minimal complaints. Heather acted like Kathryn in that she was the one that had the breakdown. When she brushed her hair in the confessional, I just about fell to the floor laughing, that to me told me she is not The Mole, she is just VERY tired. I think Bill actually WINS this game and the producers are just screwing with the viewers. I know, I know, call me Cleopatra, Queen of THE NILE  As for next week's grand finale, I guess the green and red screens are gone and the players will have to use a key to get out of their little room. Is that how it will work? Interesting if it is. Whatever the outcome, it has been a great season, too bad ABC has screwed with this show so much  
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07-31-02, 08:43 AM (EST)
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61. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
LAST EDITED ON 07-31-02 AT 08:53 AM (EST)I have to agree on both points about Dot and Bill. This is the first time I can recall really hearing Bill talk extensively and I think that's because he's not "actor-ly". I do think he's a very good player. He seemed to me to be way too sincere and eager when talking about the money and I think he's caused the least damage to the pot (of these three), always doing so in situations where his failures seemed explicable or strategic (that is, in situations where they seemed like they might have been deliberately moleish to draw attention to himself). In other situations he has tried really hard, and I think both the opportunities for Bill to lose money for the pot the past two weeks would have been excusable ones in terms of the game if he was the mole, and he took neither of them. If he was the Mole, he'd know who the liars were and he could simply choose them, earning an exemption for himself and losing money in the process. He could even write that off as a lucky guess if not a self-motivated move. But, I happen to think that he knew exactly who was lying and because he was confident about who the mole is he chose to win money for the pot rather than seek an exemption. AND, he chose to make Heather look moleish to Al by making it look like she blew the game while he (I believe) has Dorothy as his mole candidate. In the last two episodes he's been singlehandedly responsible for adding 1/4 of the pot's total. Although Katherine attempted to "be the hero" on her last game, she still did it in such a way that didn't pan out for the pot and in the context of a game where only money (no exemptions or information) was on the line, so an obvious failure would have been harder to explain. I think Bill is just a good player, very quiet, drawing suspicion on himself at the right moments, possibly even knowingly exhibiting classic liar behavior (heck, if I were on the show, I'd nod my head while saying I wasn't the mole to make myself look suspicious). And yes, I'm still resisting the opening credits clues...I do hold out hope that ABC isthrowing in the credits clues to tease the Internet crowd. Katherine's Mole Insider for this week makes it clear that they *are* paying attention to the boards and I think it's well known by the reality-TV producing crowd at this point that spoilers quickly circulate online, so wouldn't it be clever to play us like that... if producers of any reality show would try to do something like that, it would be the Mole producers. Bill is the perfect candidate for those red herrings because of the way he's played the game. I also think the mole would have been instructed to form a Steve-Jim type coalition to change the dynamic from the last series, again pointing away from Bill. At the same time, I've always been suspicious of Dorothy's failures on the challenges. I'm a New Yorker. I've never been athletic, I don't go to the gym, I'm not a runner, BUT I walk a minimum of 5-10 miles daily as part of my regular routine and I'd bet Dorothy is similar. That regular exercise keeps me in good shape and when I am put in situations where I am forced to run, hike, or walk extensively, it's never a problem. (In fact, when my husband and I were in Italy last summer we got in a jam and ended up on a night hike through the Tuscan countryside quite similar to last night's challenge. It was tiring, but perfectly doable.) Dorothy not only seemed to have the easiest task in the hiking challenge, but she all of a sudden seemed *fine* while completing a type of challenge that floored her in the past...and yet she doesn't get there in time even though it seemed like she should have easily beaten Bill there. I don't think the producers would want the mole to get there first. I think they want the emotional drama of putting a real player in that position (and the same is true for the liar game). I think they want the mole to legitimately sabotage games in subtle, tricky ways, not to just put them in a position where they can just blow all the players effort away by making a simple choice. It does seem to me like Dorothy's strategy could be to set herself up as consistently physically weak while "acting the hero" on the intellectual challenges. As with Bill, those physical failures could've been strategic failures to draw attention to herself, but I think they were instances of sabotage that were subtle and moleish while not mere giveaways by producers. Dorothy hasn't so much been singlehandedly responsible for making it entirely impossible for a challenge to be successful, but she's done a lot of damage...making many of the challenges practically impossible, but leaving other players with a chance to do them successfully. If the mole has ALL the power, the game would not be fun to play or to watch. Heather's failures at the end of the series could be an example of producers having the mole take the opposite strategy from Katherine by "playing the loser" at the end. The wild boar thing to me seems *really* suspicious, what in the world would make her think of a wild boar of all creatures? Of course, we're not there, perhaps there had been discussions or incidents making players concerned about wild boar roaming the Italian countryside, or it could be a coincidence. But since players didn't see Heather's comment, why would producers not fix Heather's mistake in the editing room. A bone tossed to viewers? At this point, I wouldn't want such an obvious clue to viewers in the show itself if players hadn't even seen it. I'd want the "great twist." So again, I think she's being player-ly and trying to draw attention on herself at the end, the boar comment is a coincidence, and ABC capitalized on it by airing the footage to make Heather look more moleish. As I said, I also think that if the mole was always in a position to outright blow the game (as with Heather and the snake) the show would be completely toothless. The mole has to merely make tough challenges harder, to make them nearly impossible while still leaving players the slim opportunity to pull them off. I think Dorothy has behaved in just that way. She stayed in the bug cage, but producers knew there was a good chance Heather or Al would bail there. It's a real challenge. Then, Dot substitutes boa constrictor for python and is just a bad, nervous liar in the lie detector game, *that* is sabotage but it keeps the emotional drama alive by putting Bill (a player) in the position of actually losing/winning the money. So I'm sticking with Dorothy...if she's not the mole, then she must be the winner...but I'm mostly becoming more confident that Bill isn't the mole. I'm not sure about the winner. My instincts would be Bill as winner, but I know Heather has been very attentive and taken good notes, plus she's gotten close to Dorothy and that would be an advantage as well... D.
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07-31-02, 06:09 AM (EST)
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56. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Am I nuts, or did anyone else notice Heather while swearing her little heart out say "Do you have to tape this? Can't you stop taping as a favor staff to crew?" Why does Miss Heather consider herself staff if she is not the mole?
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07-31-02, 08:48 AM (EST)
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62. "Bill's "efforts"" |
Everyone in Camp Denial seems to think that Bill is NOT the Mole because of last night.First of all, I dare you to find an episode of the Mole from ANY country where the Mole DOES sabotage the final game. Second of all, when Bill hands over the dossier, he says "I did it for several reasons...blah, blah blah." Um, maybe reason #1 was that the producers TOLD HIM TO?? Finally, I thought it was very telling that in the final game Bill greets the host with BLOOD ON HIS HANDS!!! So, only 6 more days until we can put all this to rest. It's been fun, but you gotta admit, we asked for the clues, they gave 'em, it's Bill, cope. Here's hoping Mole 3 is as good as Mole 2, but without the dead giveaways.
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07-31-02, 09:35 AM (EST)
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66. "GPS System" |
LAST EDITED ON 07-31-02 AT 09:49 AM (EST)From the British Mole 1 website: 'In the GPS challenge in episode 8, only David's Global Positioning System seemed to be working. Why was that? Well, he'd actually secretly reprogrammed Zi and Jennifer's systems, causing them to run aimlessly around Jersey. Afterwards he accused Jennifer she didn't try hard enough."
In this episode, Heather got very lost. I've never used a GPS system, but how hard can it be? If you make a wrong turn, it still is supposed to point you the way you are supposed to go from there. After several hours of walking, Heather ended up farther away than she started. Could the mole have beaten Heather to her pond location, reprogrammed the GPS, and then went on his way to find his location? Bill certainly did not arrive at his location, which was farther away until a long time later. Or is Heather that stupid?
unrelated note -- they put the word of the dessert menu on the screen for all viewers to read. This must have been done for a reason, as usually the notes are just filmed. Anyone find any hidden messages there?
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07-31-02, 04:47 PM (EST)
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98. "RE: GPS System" |
GPSs are used in the military so Bill would more than likely know how to re-program them. I doubt Dorothy would know how to re-program that thing.But, I don't think Bill got there and re-programmed the GPS. He just wouldn't have time to beat Heather there. Plus I think Heather would notice. I just think that Heather is really that dumb! I'm sorry Heather, but those GPS are easy to use (I've used the big clunky ones in the Army and all you have to do is follow the arrow. Simple!) Also, I think Dorothy is the Mole and I doubt she would have gotten to Heather's GPS to reprogram it.
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69. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Okay if apples really are the center pieces for the final episode, then Bill is either the mole (which I suspect) or the winner. He is from Washington State. The only state famous for Starbucks....and apples.
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07-31-02, 12:12 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues(Dorothy is the mole)" |
I think Dorothy is the mole for the simple fact that there are 7 letters in her name just like T-H-E-M-O-L-E. I could be wrong but I really think this is enough evidence. I also think that Bill will win the pot.
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07-31-02, 02:41 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
I'm a horrible clue finder, but I did notice one thing. The dossier had 2 stripes of green on it, and in the toe jam wine episode the car was green and AC was standing in green light at the execution. Last player to recieve a green screen? Heather.
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07-31-02, 04:22 PM (EST)
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95. "Perhaps too obvious" |
In between her cursing tirade and being attacked by a boar, am I the only one who noticed (and even rewinded to point it out to my brother) Heather saying "I'm sick of you guys (the crew) not talking to me. Would you tell me if I were lost? From a staff, crew thing, would you tell me if I were doing this wrong?"That may seem a bit too obvious, but it has to be asked. As in last year, I jokingly think Anderson is the Mole. He's got all the answers all the time and always seems to e in the right place...coincidence? You be the judge....
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07-31-02, 04:54 PM (EST)
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99. "RE: Perhaps too obvious" |
MB, ROTFLMAO!!!!! Oh my heck I haven't laughed so hard since.....well.... since Heather just started brushing her hair in the interview. That was classic. In the woods when she said "I really don't wanna do this anymore", I took it as her saying "I really don't wanna be the mole anymore." But that's me so whatever, you can all make fun of me now.
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07-31-02, 08:54 PM (EST)
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104. "RE: Perhaps too obvious" |
They also said, "we need to hear you say I quit." They weren't going to give help until she gave up. Even though she never said it, the "boar" interupted her.
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07-31-02, 06:54 PM (EST)
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101. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
Wow... you guys are something else. Honestly, this is the first message board that I've ever been to for the Mole. The only other person that I've discussed it with is my sister. It's strange for me to read all of these "clues" about Bill. That was actually a shocker. Since show Episode number 2, my sister and I, both, have suspected nobody except Dorothy. She was and is the only person I've ever suspected. Maybe my suspicion of her from the beginning has made me pay more attention to her and thus leading me to believe that more of what she does is suspicious. Just from the reaction of other players, after Elavia, she seems to be more of a suspect of the remaining players than any other single person. During the Gladiator game, the players chose her to be Ceasar. It was the only position that she could not interfere with the game. When she was a lookout on the tower, whenever they showed her, she seemed to never be looking down. If your only job was to see someone down on the ground, why would you ever have any reason to be looking anywhere but down. Instead, she's looking up, to the side & behind her. Consequently, Al immediately asked that everyone change positions because he was suspicious of her, and rememeber how reluctantly she moved. She has helped in very few games. The only time that she did help, it was to her benefit. She came up with two last minute answers in the Smart vs. Dumb game. Last minute.... they were last second. The only advantage is that she could steal away one exemption from a person who could really use it. When they first introduced the Car into the Greenhouse game I immediately thought that key to the game was in opening the lock of the other door. It just seemed obvious. If the show did't want them to unlock the door then they would not have used a combination lock. They would have used a keyed lock, or even better, chose building that didn't even have a second door. On top of giving them a clue at breakfast that had numbers in it. In any case, it was totally obvious. But, as soon as the game started, Dorothy was the one that boldly stepped foreward and suggested that they start taking the car apart. This was suggested before anyone else could start looking at other possibilities. When have we ever seen Dorothy be so assertive in any other game. She never takes the lead. Then, when they finally did start looking at the lock, Dorothy took control of it. If you read the ABC execution interview with Bribs, he'll tell you that he even tried to work on the lock but Dorothy wouldn't let him. She knew the combination to open it, but she wanted to make sure that they continued to dismantle the car. Her motivation being that she could open it up last second and look like the hero, but the car still might not start after the rest of the team put it back together, and the game could still be lost. On top of that, all of her interviews always have the lamest reasons for who she thinks is The Mole. None of them are very insightful at all. If she were an actual player, working off of the same assumptions that we see her voice on T.V., she should have been eliminated long ago. Some of you Bill guys have a lot of compelling arguments. I applaud your skills of observation. You are better than I. I'm not putting as much into it, as I don't even record it, just watch it once. I do think that some of your clues, however, seem a great deal like fishing. I think that Bill is a really good player, and if he is the Mole, I will be pleasantly surprised. In fact, I think that I'd like the show more. Only because, aside from what I've read this morning he is not the obvious choice. Maybe I'm blind and an idiot, and all you guys will get the last laugh, but I'm still sticking with my choice since day 2. Dorothy has been the most obvious choice for me since the beginning. Good luck to all you out there... 6 more days and we'll see how it goes... Oh yeah... Why didn't she bungee jump??? She never really gave a reason. Even if she didn't think her mom would say yes, she still could have taken the money. Did you hear the lame desciption that she gave to Heather to find her mom. " She's got black hair. She's probably the only asian woman down there." Oh yeah, that'll get the job done. It almost seemed like she didn't want Heather to find the right person....wait a minute That's all, MrNyceGuy
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07-31-02, 08:21 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
What's the mole's purpose? What does the mole do? Mislead. Lie. Deceive. So now I am supposed to believe "BILL IS THE MOLE" and is spelled out in plain English? P.T. Barnum was right. A sucker's born every minute.
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107. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
One thing I found interesting was when Bill gave back the Mole's dossier and A.C. asked him, "So you're pretty confident that you know you the mole is?" Bill replies, "Yes I am." If the US producers are using the UK version's clues, this has the potential of being one of the clues. I remember reading that in the UK version, the mole there said something early in the game to the effect of "I've been playing the mole since day 1" and Bill's comments in a way parallel this circumstance.
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08-01-02, 04:51 PM (EST)
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108. "RE: Final Quiz" |
Actually, I don't think it was actually clicked, or it would have turned yellow.Also, I noticed how the mouse ALWAYS would point to one of the answer choices for the remaining contestants. Example: "Who Is The Mole?"... Points to Bill. "How many weight on during Sink or Think?"... Points to "Not in pool". "Favorite Artist?"... Points to "Van Gogh"
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Quotes of the week:
1. "Al, do you think you could move just a little?"-Myra
2. "Ewww... Patrick, no... I don't want to see that."-Heather
3. "I really hope Darwin doesn't realize I have a coalition with Dorothy, or... that could be bad."-Lisa
4. "Gas station attendants... They no NOTHING about flat tires... Let's ask these tourists!"-Darwin
5. "I swear, Rob, if this freaks me out I'm gonna punch you."-Anderson
6. "Those hills are a b!tch."-Anderson
7. "Um, thanks guys for not liking me!" (waves the $ at them)-Elavia
8. "They do look like piercing blue eyes, Heather, but I don't get it. He's totally making out with (that girl)."- Bribs
9. "I was a little surprised when Anderson came into my room in a suit. He usually just comes into my room in his pajamas, just his bottoms usually."-Darwin
10. "Man, I'm screwed."-Dorothy
11. (creepily) "Tiny bubbles... In my wine... Makes me happy."-Anderson
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08-01-02, 10:28 PM (EST)
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111. "Sweet Potato" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-01-02 AT 10:33 PM (EST)This "hidden clue" actually has me a bit excited. First, I'm terrible at these (and wasn't the one to find it anyway) and second I'm such a strong antibillfomo that I love the possiblities. Over on malibubarbie's excellent impartial summary of the case for each person as the mole, sir erist weighed in with a short observation that it's rumored that moles like sweet potatoes. Well, I asked, where did that rumor come from - after all, how many of us know a lot either about the habits of moles or even the rumored diet they eat? I searched a bit and came across a quote regarding the Eastern Mole which reads as follows: "Moles feed almost exclusively on soil insects -- earthworms and grubs are the most important food sources. Because they eat insect pests, they can be beneficial. A mole has a tremendous appetite and can consume nearly half its own weight in food daily. Roots, bulbs and tubers of plants are not target food sources, but may be damaged indirectly as moles dig through the ground in search of grubs and earthworms. Plant parts may subsequently be eaten by mice, which use mole tunnels for protection and as avenues to food supplies." That's copied from an artilce writeen by an Entomologist from the Univ of Deleware - obviously not very promising. But, then someone else (bella02 - thanks!!) responded with a quote from another website. Here's the link for you to look at: http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/accounts/heterocephalus/h._glaber$narrative.html Read down the the area titled Food Habits. You will notice that it says "in captivity they will readily consume sweet potatoes". So, does that confirm a real hidden clue? After all, Heather was wearing a shirt that said sweet potato on it. Well, I like it and along with my intuitive feelings I'm gonna go with it. However, first I want to share some of the weaknesses of this clue. 1. The mole eats sweet potatos. Maybe, she was told to wear the shirt that would become a clue for us that she is consumed by the mole (Bill or Dorothy). I don't think so, but billfomo's might say that. 2. There are a lot of moles in the world - quite a few subspecies. And, for the most part they eat worms, grubs and insects. And, as the first article says, "plants are not target food sources". Also, this particular species, Heterocephalus Glaber is known as the Naked Mole Rat and it is only known to occur in Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya (an S4 tie-in?? - oh, wrong network). Given that, it is certainly a strong possibility that moles are "rumored" to eat sweet potatoes and this could be a hidden clue. Gotta say I was tempted to start a new Sweet Potato thread, but in keeping with protocal just added it to this thread. *edited to credit bella02*
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08-02-02, 08:27 PM (EST)
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112. "RE: Sweet Potato" |
Wow, that is a good point. How common are t-shirts that say "sweet potato", I've never seen one...Also, you have to wonder about any contestant pulling out new clothes at this late stage in the game. Even if they had gone shopping, what are the odds of finding a t-shirt that says "sweet potato" in Italy. Interesting....
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08-03-02, 03:45 PM (EST)
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116. "RE: Ah thanks for carifying that.." |
First, mb, I couldn't agree more that Bill winning would be terrible and I'll be highly disappointed if he does. But, for me age has nothing to do with it - IF it's him, they've done it too obviously and that's what I don't like. I'm still believing all the obvious stuff that points to him is planted. Frankly, I think it'd be great if an older person won one of these once since I'm older myself. However, neither age nor anything else is among my criteria - it's just likeability (well, on further reflection I'm lying - I do have criteria beyond likeability, but that's for another post - age just isn't a major one). And for me Bill is not highly likeable (though he's been getting better) and he's not a good mole.As to the shirt - I missed the first episode and wasn't aware of the SP shirt being worn them. That makes it even more of a clue for me - first and last episode symetry. I mean, what are the chances that someone has a Sweet Potato shirt in their wardrobe and brings it along to a show where the focal point of the show eats that particular vegetable? It's too strong an association to overlook and seems like the type of hidden clue that is so obvious but could easily be overlooked. 2002 IceCat Originals, Inc. All rights reserved.
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08-03-02, 07:10 PM (EST)
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119. "OMG WE MISSED IT! OBVIOUS BILL CLUE!" |
OMG! OMG! ROB HAS BLACK HAIR AT THE REUNIOUN! THAT MUST MEAN BILL IS THE MOLE BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO HAVE BLACK HAIR! OMG! OMG! lol.
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08-06-02, 05:34 PM (EST)
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123. "RE: How Many Times ?" |
Goliath? The bible? That's it -- Vecepia must be the mole.
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121. "RE: Episode 12 Hidden Clues" |
This one's just for fun. Who knew Dorothy was such a navigator? She completed that hike like she was following the Yellow Brick Road. In honor of her ability to discern where she was going (and because I believe her to be the mole) I'm giving her a nickname: Miss Direction.
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