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"***Get Your VOTE on, Molerons!***"
Last week, we said goodbye to Al and hello to 19 new FindTheMole.com Official Smarty-Pants. All 19 of you have won BRAND NEW CHEVY AVALANCHES. WooHoo!

Oops, sorry, wrong show, but just to make our smarties feel all good inside, here's a list of our residetn luckies from last week:

canada_mole
Efjendar
ejm92
flying squirrel
iggyboop
katem
LaLaLa
Loreem
L82LIFE
mikey
molzingvivor
performanz
plimtuna
Ronnet
spyguy13
Supergrrl
travelingbetty
true

Okay, now that you've figured out how the vote threads work...
The rules have changed

This week, there will not be an execution, but we're going to start voting now. You'll pick the winner and the mole, but you will be allowed to alter your vote after Episode 12 (July 30). This is how the whole deal will work:

1. Reply to this message only to start. Do not reply to any other message. (This rule to be contradicted in just one moment.)

2. Highlight and Delete '***Get Your VOTE on, Molerons!***' and replace it with two names. The first name should be the person you think will win the whole shebang and the second name will be the person you think is the mole. Like this: Bill's the mole and Dorothy wins: 'Dorothy - Bill' should be your subject. Okay? You are not picking the person who loses this week.

3. Watch episode 12. (No, you don't have to enjoy it and you can even do dishes, cross-stitch or trim your toenails while you do it, but, really, just watch a little.)

4. Say something in Episode 12 makes you think you chose the wrong winner/mole combination. In that instance, you are able to alter your vote. To do this, reply to your original vote and change the names in the new subject box. Told you I'd contradict rule one. *Sigh*

5. Feel free to tell us why you think the way you do (about your mole and winner picks, at least) but let's not turn this into a discussion thread. Becasue of the already modified rules, this thread is likely to be a little confusing. So, please, do not respond to someone else's post. (See? I'm asking nicely. If you don't you'll be made fun of like lizard and RedLady, our rule breakers from last week. I won't pick on Roni, since she was probably duped by the cunning lizard, who obviously enticed her into responding so he wouldn't have the lone infraction.)

6. Have fun. This one hasn't changed, still mandatory.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Dorothy - Bill Femme 07-29-02 1
 Dot - Heather Asrai 07-29-02 2
 Door-oh-thee ; Bil cyclehausen 07-29-02 3
 Dorothy - Bill mookiemeister 07-29-02 4
 Dorothy - Bill AyaK 07-29-02 5
 Dorothy - Heather Ronnet 07-29-02 6
 Heather - Bill Molzingvivor 07-29-02 7
 Bill--- Dorothy Seniorita 07-29-02 8
   RE: Bill--- Dorothy canada_mole 07-29-02 9
 Dorothy-Bill BaquaR13 07-29-02 10
 Heather - Bill Stuefis 07-29-02 11
 Dorothy-Heather sherlock 07-29-02 12
 Dorothy--Bill LadyLuna 07-29-02 13
 Heather - Dorothy Jims02 07-29-02 14
 Dorothy - Bill iggyboop 07-29-02 15
 Dot - Bill Supergrrl 07-29-02 16
 Dorothy - Bill curious 07-29-02 17
 Dorothy - Heather Survivorerist 07-29-02 18
 Bill -- Dorothy !!!! katem 07-29-02 19
 Dorothy -- Bill xxinvincible 07-29-02 20
 Heather - Bill NaughtyKittySara 07-30-02 21
 Dorothy - Bill Efjendar 07-30-02 22
 Bill-----Dorothy sport 07-30-02 23
 Heather - Dorothy pwbk 07-30-02 24
 VOTE TOTALS SO FAR... BaquaR13 07-30-02 25
 Bill --- Heather (but hoping for D ... evanakm 07-30-02 26
   Bill --- Heather (but still hoping ... evanakm 07-31-02 61
 Dorothy-Bill myis601 07-30-02 27
 Dorothy-Bill Bebo 07-30-02 28
 Dorothy - Bill PagongRatEater 07-30-02 29
 Dorothy - Bill starshyn99 07-30-02 30
 Dorothy-Bill TheBoredGuy 07-30-02 31
 Dorothy - Bill blemer 07-30-02 32
 Dorothy - Bill Loree 07-30-02 33
 Dorothy - Heather nowhereman 07-30-02 34
 Heather - Dorothy CVLspaz 07-30-02 35
 Dorothy - Bill magic_star 07-30-02 36
 Dorothy- Bill mikey 07-30-02 37
   RE: Dorothy- Bill mikey 08-01-02 65
 Dorothy - Heather ThE_mOlE_gUrL 07-30-02 38
 Heather -- Bill flying squirrel 07-30-02 39
 Bill-Dorothy EthnicGoddess 07-30-02 40
   Bill-Heather EthnicGoddess 07-31-02 64
 Dorothy - Bill travelingbetty 07-30-02 41
 Dorothy ~~~Bill lroy 07-30-02 42
 Heather----Bill Peacemaker 07-30-02 43
 heather-bill survivorscott 07-30-02 44
 Dorothy - Bill PussycatDoll 07-30-02 45
 Dorothy - Bill ejm92 07-30-02 46
 Dorothy - Heather sittem 07-30-02 47
   RE: Dorothy - Bill tulipkisses8 07-30-02 48
 Heather-Dorothy L82LIFE 07-30-02 49
 Vote Totals So Far.... AyaK 07-30-02 50
 Dorothy-Bill true 07-30-02 51
 Dorothy - Bill SurvivorBlows 07-30-02 52
 Dorothy--Heather Teddy_Bear 07-30-02 53
 Dorothy - Heather Hockey Lady 07-30-02 54
 Dorothy (win) Bill (mole) dabo 07-30-02 55
 Final Pre-E12 Vote Totals AyaK 07-30-02 56
 Bill-Heather ekr 07-30-02 57
 Bill--Heather jennifer12 07-31-02 58
 Bill---Heather JohnnysOldAunt 07-31-02 59
 Dorothy - Bill orimental_azn 07-31-02 60
 Bill - Heather plimtuna 07-31-02 62
 Dorothy - Bill lizard 07-31-02 63
 Bill.....Heather aquarius 08-05-02 66
 Bill - Dorothy (aka the mole) spyguy13 08-05-02 67
 Dorothy - Bill LaLaLa 08-06-02 68
 Bill - Dorothy QueenP 08-06-02 69
 Dorothy - Heather (mole) lacy 08-06-02 70
 Dorothy - Bill Dusty Bottoms 08-06-02 71
 Heather (win) Dorothy (mole) TeenSpirit 08-06-02 72
 Vote Totals So Far Survivorerist 08-06-02 73
 Dorothy-Bill GuessItRains 08-06-02 74
 Heather - Bill lady_arcadia 08-06-02 76
 Bill - Heather Hockey Lady 08-06-02 77
 Heather-Bill and ? for Blue men if ... hrc2u 08-06-02 78
 Dorothy - Bill SurvivorBlows 08-06-02 79

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Femme 3621 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "Dorothy - Bill"
Dot wins, Bill is the big hairy mole.


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2. "Dot - Heather"
I'm always up for yet another way to show everybody just how lame I am at picking the winners!!! So, Dot wins, and Heather is the Mole. I have it on inside information that Heather is the mole because my brother-in-law says so. So there!

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3. "Door-oh-thee ; Bil"
Winnnnnnner and Mol


She is smart and he is teh moll.

BIll's bagg has teh tape.

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4. "Dorothy - Bill"
Players probably have prime suspect as mole already. So it doesn't make much sense to have Dorothy and Heather form an alliance unless they trust each other more than they trust Bill.
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5. "Dorothy - Bill"
It's hard for me to pick against Dorothy to win (even though I picked her to get booted last week -- darn that modified EPT!), since she clearly seems to be the smartest person on this show. Thus, I'll choose her as the winner. ABC has to be happy with Heather and Dorothy as the final two if their goal was to attract male viewers...

And, as we of the Billuminati have claimed for months, Bill is the mole.

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6. "Dorothy - Heather"

Heather is the mole

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7. "Heather - Bill"
Its a coin toss between Heather and Dorothy for the win so I will go with Heather as she seems to have gotten more screen time and I think she is smarter then she lets on.

The amount evidence for Bill being the mole is too high to ignore. I don't think it is as bad a choice as some others do but if it is him I would hope the next one (if there is a next one) is a little less obvious.

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8. "Bill--- Dorothy"
yeah, yeah, so there are a lot of hidden clues for Bill, and he's lost a lot of money for the pot. But I've got to stay on the Dorothy Bandwagon until the wagon dumps me off. Also, I think Bill is pretty certain that Dorothy is the mole, so he doesn't mind losing a little bit of his own money on the way to winning the whole pot, to pull suspicion onto himself and well hey I'm rambling...
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9. "RE: Bill--- Dorothy"
For all the reasons seniorita picks plus many more
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10. "Dorothy-Bill"
It really couldn't be more obvious in my opinion. I have already explained myself so none is needed...

The True Survivor Fox!!

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11. "Heather - Bill"
Bill is a bad mole if he is it.
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12. "Dorothy-Heather"
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13. "Dorothy--Bill"

I've just joined the BILLFOMO camp, but I'm really hoping it will be:

Dorothy--Heather

Watch me change my vote...

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14. "Heather - Dorothy"
Heather wins
Dorothy is the mole

We haven't had this combination yet...

Great Twist Theory that Bill gets the Red Screen and Heather was on to Dorothy the entire time.
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Quotes of the week:
1. "Al, do you think you could move just a little?"-Myra
2. "Ewww... Patrick, no... I don't want to see that."-Heather
3. "I really hope Darwin doesn't realize I have a coalition with Dorothy, or... that could be bad."-Lisa
4. "Gas station attendants... They no NOTHING about flat tires... Let's ask these tourists!"-Darwin
5. "I swear, Rob, if this freaks me out I'm gonna punch you."-Anderson
6. "Those hills are a b!tch."-Anderson
7. "Um, thanks guys for not liking me!" (waves the $ at them)-Elavia
8. "They do look like piercing blue eyes, Heather, but I don't get it. He's totally making out with (that girl)."- Bribs
9. "I was a little surprised when Anderson came into my room in a suit. He usually just comes into my room in his pajamas, just his bottoms usually."-Darwin
10. "Man, I'm screwed."-Dorothy

11. (creepily) "Tiny bubbles... In my wine... Makes me happy."-Anderson

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15. "Dorothy - Bill"
"If there's a will, there's a way."

Unless it already happened.

You see, from all the editing clues that have been given to us to indicate who we should sympathize with, I'm SURE Heather will win. There's the Katie "if you're the Mole..." and Heather's "I'm gonna make sure a Texan wins" and finally Heather again, "If I get into the final 3, I'm deathly afraid that Dorothy will beat me." All these have been inserted to have us sympathize with Heather. Nothing for Dorothy.

But I WANT DOROTHY TO WIN!!! Soooo...I suppose if all the FTM's here try to 'will' it to happen, maybe it'll work.

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16. "Dot - Bill"
IN THE END THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.

For the final game, it really is the quiz that will determine the winner, and Dot is the brainiac of the three and she's not the mole, so the answer is obvious, unless she has a mental breakdown before she takes the quiz then I'm screwed.

Bill is the mole - Al was booted in the last quiz, and I don't think he suspected Bill at all. He was definite on Dot. My guess he spread his answers over Dot and Heather, less on Bill, and he lost.

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17. "Dorothy - Bill"
Even though I really don't want Bill to be the mole

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18. "Dorothy - Heather"
Time to put my horrible picking streak to an end. I don't mean I'm think this is finally my time to pick right, just that the season is almost over

<waves to Asrai, Roni and sherlock - who better to be in the same boat with? >

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19. "Bill -- Dorothy !!!!"
I continue to be in denial. Bill wins the game and Dot is the Mole. Heather can just go away.

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20. "Dorothy -- Bill"
Bill is the mole for all the obvious reasons, and I think Dorothy is smarter then Heather and picked up more of the smaller details throughout the show.

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21. "Heather - Bill"
Just because we all know Bill is the mole. And I have no idea who will win, just wanted to stray from the croud!
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22. "Dorothy - Bill"
Dorothy's diligent and bookworm enough to win. Heather's too much of a diva.

I remember in Mole 1 when Kate (the senior) was lagging behind in a race to the top of some castle and someone said she's going slow because she's The Mole! I think they got the idea for this year's Mole from that statement...Bill.

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23. "Bill-----Dorothy"
Bill: the winner Dorothy: The Nole
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24. "Heather - Dorothy"
I changed my mind one last time. I realize that I should have said Dorothy - Bill, but ehh.... let's just say if things turned out the way I wanted them to, it would be Katie - Katie.


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25. "VOTE TOTALS SO FAR..."
24 votes so far...

Dorothy-Bill- 11
Dorothy-Heather- 4
Bill-Dorothy- 4
Heather-Bill- 3
Heather-Dorothy- 2
Bill-Heather- 0

The True Survivor Fox!!

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26. "Bill --- Heather (but hoping for D - H)"
I've gone over my reasoning for why I think Heather is the mole on a couple of other threads, and I'm too lazy to type it again.

Dorothy is the coolest person on that show. I don't see why a lot of people say she has no personality, I think she has a great personality. Just because she does not act like Katie does not mean she has no emotions. But it is this same closed-mindedness that the players have shown that has allowed Dorothy to dance circles around them. But even though I am rooting for her, and I really don't want to see Bill win, I just think that there has to be a reason that the editors are setting Bill up as the mole decoy when it would be just as easy to set up Dorothy.

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61. "Bill --- Heather (but still hoping for D - H)"
I don't think there was any mole activity this week. The 3 questions game was a lot harder than last year, and I think it was purposely designed to throw suspicion around with no actual sabotage. Dorothy is still my favorite, I like her more every week, but my gut is telling me that she's going to lose to Bill. Don't get me wrong I like Bill, he seems like a great guy, but I just don't want to see him win since I enjoy seeing a little bit of emotion from someone who wins.
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27. "Dorothy-Bill"
I still think Dorothy could be the mole, however the "hidden clues" you all have come up with point strongly to Bill. How I hope he's not the mole!! If he's not, then Dot is and Bill will be the winner.


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28. "Dorothy-Bill"
I'm not a lemming, I'm not a lemming!

I've stated oh so many times my reasons for Bill. Now, why am I picking Dorothy to be the Ultimate Moleron?

- I think she's been on to Bill since the quiz game (at the latest), so she's had a chance to keep tabs on him.
- We have had it shoved down our throats that she doesn't know what she's doing, she's so sure she'll be gone, yadda yadda yadda. Oooh, what a surprising (cough, cough) twist it would be for the...ahem...uncertain one to win the whole ball of wax (and the accompanying money).

This little light of mine...I'm gonna let it shine!

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29. "Dorothy - Bill"
I think Dorothy is convinced that Heather is not the Mole and will now put all of her eggs in the Bill basket. She also seems to be a bit more meticulous in her note taking and may fare better in the final quiz. Actually though, it IS a toss up between winners, but BILL IS THE MOLE>

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30. "Dorothy - Bill"
Bill is the Mole. I picked him episode 1 and later changed due to "too obvious" but I am back on the wagon for hiding in plain sight.

Heather has not gotten a break the whole game (as she is constantly reminding us)...and she still doesn't. Our smart little cookie Dorothy takes the prize.

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31. "Dorothy-Bill"
Dorothy wins, Bill is Le Mole.
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32. "Dorothy - Bill"
You go girl!
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33. "Dorothy - Bill"
I have stated my theory often enough. Bill is the mole and Dorothy wins the money. Enough said.
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34. "Dorothy - Heather"
nothing new...
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35. "Heather - Dorothy"
if Dorothy is the mole (obviously ) i really think pH's (PrincessHeather) coalition with her will have proved valuable. the coalition gives her more chances to learn things about Dorothy than BB (BoringBill) BB has probably taken copious amounts of notes, but there are some things, like faves, b-days, pets, etc. that don't come out in the game. i think pH has a better shot of knowing these answers, thus knowing more on the quiz and finally defeating BB in the end.
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36. "Dorothy - Bill"
I'm completely sure about Bill being the mole and I just think Dorothy will win and I would rather have her win than Heather.

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37. "Dorothy- Bill"
"The mole is Bill" -- if this number sequence actually appears in the telegram (I didn't see if myself), that's enough evidence for me that, in fact, the mole is BIll.

One could easily believe that the mole is Dorothy if they simply watched the challenges rather than reading the clue. I doubt Dorothy suspects Heather, so Dorothy will win.

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65. "RE: Dorothy- Bill"
I have become 100% Bill for mole. I neglected to tape the first three minutes of the show this week, so once again I could not see the hidden "Bill is the mole clue", but enough people on this board saw it that it is unlikely to be a set up by someone trying to fool everyone. "Bill is the mole" appears to have no other meaning than, in fact, Bill is the mole, just like the telegram clue had no other meaning.

I reiterate my pick for Dorothy to win it all. She is not fooled by Bill. She showed this week that, in individual competitions, she is a competitor, even if she does not try all that hard when working to earn money for the pot. She clearly knows Bill is the mole, which is why she suddenly voiced strong opinions when she and Bill were trying to guess Heather's answers. I don't think Heather is a complete idiot -- I think her GPS was reprogrammed by the mole this week -- but she has not been paying as much attention as Dorothy.

Thus, I reiterate my picks -- Bill for mole with 99.5% confidence, Dorothy for winner with 70% confidence.

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38. "Dorothy - Heather"
Because I refuse to believe that Heather will lose, so she must be the mole. And Dorothy will win.....just because. Oh yeah and Katie will be pissed at Heather.
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39. "Heather -- Bill"
Picking against the flow worked well last week (thanks for the shout-out, Femme!), so here I go again. Bill is undoubtedly the mole -- but either one of the Heather-Dorothy team could win. Most people think Dorothy will win because she's clearly smarter. They may well be right that intelligence is the determining factor. But it also may come down to luck ... or speed ... or one observation. Thus, against the flow, I'll take Heather to win.

All I REALLY want is a lot of entertainment to prepare for the summary of the final episode next week. Look for the return of Michael Eisner (see AyaK's episode 3 summary)...

And my thanks to all of the prior summary writers: AyaK, Dusty Bottoms, landsharck, Bebo, cyclehausen, Femme, Survivorerist, Kokoro, JeffGator, magic_star, Teddy_Bear, and PagongRatEater.
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40. "Bill-Dorothy"
Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this! Yes, it is highly probable that Bill is the mole, but of course, I'm stubborn and refuse to admit it! So, I'm guessing that he in fact wins, and Dot is the mole (just the opposite of most people's choices). I figured that the game can't be THAT predictable. Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind after tonight's ep...anything is possible! I kinda want Heather to be the mole though, since she really has sabotaged a lot of things, but still managed to look sort of innocent.
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64. "Bill-Heather"
I changed my vote simply because I think that Bill suspects Heather more than Dorothy, so if he wins, Heather's probably the mole. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part.
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41. "Dorothy - Bill"
Dorothy takes it over Heather. I have always thought that Bill was the mole since he couldn't survive treading water under that strenuous 1.1 pound weight.
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42. "Dorothy ~~~Bill"
I just think that if it comes down to smarts Dot is going to win over Heather & as for Bill as the mole, ugh

But, oh my heck, i'm a girl...

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43. "Heather----Bill"
Bill is the mole.


In the final quiz Dorothy goes 100% for Heather and Heather goes 100% for Dorothy and they both miss all the questions but Heather finishes 1 second faster and wins.

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44. "heather-bill"
too much time focused on heather, so for editing purposes, she wins
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45. "Dorothy - Bill"

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46. "Dorothy - Bill"
Sticking with my original picks.
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47. "Dorothy - Heather"
LAST EDITED ON 07-30-02 AT 05:49 PM (EST)

Because it CAN'T BE BILL or I'll stomp my foot and scream and carry on and never watch Mole again!! Any other questions? Actually, I won't be upset if he wins, but I will be upset if he's the Mole.


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48. "RE: Dorothy - Bill"
i think bill's the mole cuz last season it was a woman for the mole so i just think it's a guy this season
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49. "Heather-Dorothy"
I'm going to go out on a limb here and go for the wild card pick. If I'm right, then I'll look like a really good spoiler (which I'm not!LOL).

If I'm wrong, I can say that my brain is still functioning improperly due to the endless playing of "Tiny Bubbles" in my head this past week.


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50. "Vote Totals So Far...."
This is post #50, summarizing 48 votes and 1 prior subtotal. Right now, 32 voters think Dorothy will win, and 31 think Bill is the mole.

Dorothy-Bill.........25
Dorothy-Heather...7
Heather-Bill..........6
Bill-Dorothy..........5
Heather-Dorothy...4
Bill-Heather..........1

Votes to win:
Dorothy.......32
Heather.......10
Bill...............6

Votes as mole:
Bill.............31
Dorothy.......9
Heather.......8

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51. "Dorothy-Bill"

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52. "Dorothy - Bill"

Woops, almost forgot to get this in...

-SB

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53. "Dorothy--Heather"
Dorothy will win, and Heather is the MOLE--at least for this episode.
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54. "Dorothy - Heather"
LAST EDITED ON 08-06-02 AT 04:54 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 08-06-02 AT 04:52 PM (EST)

Bill - winner ; Heather = Mole

YUP--I changed--4 hours before the final....
I think Bill's comment "I spent my whole life evaluating people" will make him the winner.

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55. "Dorothy (win) Bill (mole)"

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56. "Final Pre-E12 Vote Totals"
This is post #56, summarizing 53 votes and 2 prior subtotals. All votes received prior to this point are pre-E12, so the voters (if correct) get some bragging rights.

Dorothy is the majority pick to win, and Bill is the majority pick as mole.

Dorothy-Bill.........28
Dorothy-Heather...9
Heather-Bill..........6
Bill-Dorothy..........5
Heather-Dorothy...4
Bill-Heather..........1

Votes to win:
Dorothy.......37
Heather.......10
Bill...............6

Votes as mole:
Bill.............34
Heather......10
Dorothy.......9

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57. "Bill-Heather"
I've said since day 1 Heather is the mole. I just have this feeling about it and she is way to emotional (just like Kathryn.) Bill knows Heather is the mole and he has voted that way the past two episodes. I think Heather led Dorothy to believe that Bill is the mole and she bought it so she will lose.
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58. "Bill--Heather"
No, I don't have that backwords. I think all the "Bill clues" are redherrings to throw us off. They did it last year too. I think Heather is the mole and Bill will beat Dorothy on the quiz and win
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59. "Bill---Heather"
You know,

while such evidence as "There are four letter in the word mole and four letters in Bill" and "Bill was standing next to the left side of each person in every scene where people are eating and that means he's the Mole", and of course, "If you listen to the Sgt. Pepper Soundtrack backwards and you'll hear 'Bill is the Mole" seems compelling, I've got to go with good ol' "Oh, look, Heather messed up again and told us she's the Mole" as the tie breaker.

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60. "Dorothy - Bill"
Hey, the clues are there laid out for us to find right? There has been an overwhelming forcing of BillFOMO clues down our throats. Dorothy is just so cute, which is why I want her to win!
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62. "Bill - Heather"
I really think Dorothy should win, a very smart player, but I think she'll blow the quiz through pressure.

Heather was a great Mole choice. Smart, cute, young and not very obvious (who would pick the same demographic as last year?)


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63. "Dorothy - Bill"
A) I can't think of one good hidden clue for Bill to be the Mole so I'm just guessing. And I tossed a coin for the winner in case you're still interested.

B) I watched Episode 12 and am now mortally afraid of wild boars, haystacks, thorn bushes, small barking dogs, cat ears, GPS systems and Heather's temper. Thanks Femme! Plus can you believe how many different designs of door they have in one small Italian town!

C) I'm still working out a way of enticing someone to respond to this and break the rules (evil molish LOL) - watch for edits!


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66. "Bill.....Heather "
Bill will win the $$$
Heather is the Mole
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67. "Bill - Dorothy (aka the mole)"
I believe Bill is going to be the winner because he seems to be a very smart individual. You do not become a two-star without knowing a thing or two. I believe Dorothy is the mole because for ONE reason: She never gets excited about winning money for the pot or getting the chance to win more for the pot. Remember, she voted not to do the chaser/evader game again because she would not want the group winning more money. There is my two cents.
This has been fun. I would like to thank all the people who put hard work into making this an awesome message board and website. Mole 3...here come the sleuths!!!

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68. "Dorothy - Bill"
Maybe...
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69. "Bill - Dorothy"
a total guess! I just hope I'm surprised, whatever the outcome.

Pam

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70. "Dorothy - Heather (mole)"
not a Bill follower
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71. "Dorothy - Bill"

Dorothy is the winner

Bill is the mole

or I'll eat my hat

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72. "Heather (win) Dorothy (mole)"

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73. "Vote Totals So Far"
LAST EDITED ON 08-06-02 AT 03:46 PM (EST)

Hope you don't mind me doing this...

edited to include TeenSpirit's vote

Total Votes: 66

Votes As Winner

Dorothy: 42
Bill: 13
Heather: 11

Votes As Mole

Bill: 38
Heather: 17
Dorothy: 11

Combination Winner-Mole

Dorothy-Bill: 32
Dorothy-Heather: 10
Bill-Heather: 7
Bill-Dorothy: 6
Heather-Bill: 6
Heather-Dorothy: 5

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74. "Dorothy-Bill"
Whoops, just realized I never voted in this! Following the crowd since we all know Bill is the Mole. I think Dorothy is just a tad more perceptive than Heather, so I give her the nod on the quiz.


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76. "Heather - Bill"
Oops.. hit post before I changed the subject.. sorry.

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77. "Bill - Heather"
4 hours before the final, I changed...I still go for Heather = Mole, but think Bill = winner
His comment, "I have spent my whole life evaluating people" leads me to believe he will win...
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78. "Heather-Bill and ? for Blue men if you are here:-)"
I'm picking Heather to win and Bill to be the Mole. Dorthy will be to slow at Quiz time.
Also, if their are any Blue men out there, since it's the last episode could we get an official FTM pick of who the Mole is? Just wanted to see. If you can't I understand.

I want to thank all the people who've taking the time to write the marvelous episode summaries.
Those who've started and maintained clue threads. Jim02, Malibubarbie, cyclehausen. Of course a big "THANKS" to Bebo for a thread pointing to all the important threads.
GTMike for the ptte and anti-elimination game.
I loved the Mole last year and enjoyed it even more by reading what all of you had to say. Perhaps I will see you all here for MOLE 3 or Survivor.
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79. "Dorothy - Bill"

Still going with the same as last week...

-SB

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