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"Anderson clueless on Moles Identity"

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Cagan 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"	07-24-02, 03:00 PM (EST)
"Anderson clueless on Moles Identity"
Not sure if this has been touched on, but if I recall at the end of Mole 1, during the reunion show, Anderson states that he didn't know who the Mole was until only a few days before Kathryn was actually revealed as the Mole. Which makes sense because he is less likely to reveal the identity of the Mole with a slip of the tongue. I think thats is also the case in Mole 2 and therefore we wont get any clues from Anderson (with stuff he says or does). Does anyone else remember this from Mole 1 and has anyone heard Anderson or producers say anything that contridicts this?
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID

RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Iden... Canada Girl 07-24-02 1

RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Iden... Q 07-24-02 2

   RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Iden... malibubarbie 07-24-02 3

       RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Iden... TheBoredGuy 07-24-02 6

   RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Iden... MolePlayer 07-25-02 14

RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Iden... Kokoro 07-24-02 4

   RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Iden... cyclehausen 07-24-02 5

       How it all ends trigirl 07-24-02 7

           RE: How it all ends malibubarbie 07-24-02 8

               Mole Money AnnaBanana 07-24-02 9

                   RE: Mole Money TheBoredGuy 07-24-02 10

                   RE: Mole Money dragonstorm 07-25-02 11

                       As mentioned before.... cyclehausen 07-25-02 12

                           RE: As mentioned before.... Molzingvivor 07-25-02 13

                           RE: As mentioned before.... wildchickenhunter 07-25-02 15

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Canada Girl 3340 desperate attention whore postings
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07-24-02, 03:10 PM (EST)

1. "RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Identity"

I'm glad you brought this up Cagen. I tried to get this question answered several weeks ago.
As someone who didn't watch the first Mole, Anderson's actual wording from Mole1 on if he did not know about the Mole would be very helpful to me.
Come on people, help a girl out!

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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings
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07-24-02, 03:21 PM (EST)

2. "RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Identity"

I was wondering this as well. Also, a question:
I surfed the ABC Site and found out about the mole selection process, etc. Also the fact that all players get money on sliding scale, etc.
Does anyone know, has Kathryn ever said, etc. How much ABC pays the mole. It says they become employees of ABC, but not how much?
Just wondering how much money ABC would have to offer a player to be the mole and give up the chance to play the game and win a lot of money. Of course the paycheck is a sure thing, so I just wonder how much is it?
D.R.

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malibubarbie 434 desperate attention whore postings
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07-24-02, 03:24 PM (EST)

3. "RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Identity"

LAST EDITED ON 07-24-02 AT 03:25 PM (EST)
Yay! I getta answer! No, Anderson does not know who the mole is. I think last year when he said, "Pay the PRICE," and that was a clue, it was simply because ABC was desperate for clues and stumbled on Anderson saying that.
In the final episode summary, it says Anderson is surprised at who the mole is. It's never been said how much Kat got paid. It has been rumored, however, that she got $125,000.

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TheBoredGuy 49 desperate attention whore postings
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07-24-02, 04:02 PM (EST)

6. "RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Identity"

It's quite possible that the script writers work clues into Anderson's dialogue and/or monologue. So Anderson could be giving clues without knowing they're supposed to be clues.

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07-25-02, 12:50 PM (EST)

14. "RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Identity"

Anderson does not know the identity of the Mole. That is the way it was from Mole 1 and I believe it is true for this Mole as well. He might give off something to the viewers let alone the other players.
Also, I believe Kathryn got $150,000 last year. I think the Mole should get the difference between what was won and the One Million Dollars. It is an incentive!

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07-24-02, 03:30 PM (EST)

4. "RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Identity"

<<he didn't know who the Mole was until only a few days before Kathryn was actually revealed as the Mole.>>
I was throwing this out too....It's interesting if he said that exactly, as it doesn't mean "wow I was clueless until the wrap". In mole scheduling, "a few days" should at least cover the final 4. But it doesn't really matter unless someone as a verifiable quote.
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Now let us never speak of S3 again.

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07-24-02, 03:48 PM (EST)

5. "RE: Anderson clueless on Moles Identity"

They revealed the Mole at the reunion show, which happened after all playing was completed and the show was no longer "on-location."

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07-24-02, 06:52 PM (EST)

7. "How it all ends"

Is that how it ends Cycle? Will next week be a reunion show with all the players?
*aagh* Whatever am I going to do, I am going to be in a cabin in the woods for a 'vacation'...with no tv.

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malibubarbie 434 desperate attention whore postings
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07-24-02, 06:56 PM (EST)

8. "RE: How it all ends"

Well, actually, not next week. Next week, all they do is play the games to get the final sum of money into the pot, and then they take the quiz. But, no one gets executed yet. The next week, they take them all and they have the executed players talk about who they thought was the mole when they took the quiz, who of the final 3 they think is the mole, and all the final player's suspicious behaviors. Then, we get the green/red screen. And, the mole is the revealed. The player gets a check, the hidden clues are shown. So, basically, if you don't care about watching the games, then you don't have to watch next week, cuz that's all it'll be. And the quiz which you can get from abc.com anyhow. The next week is what everyone's been waiting for.

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AnnaBanana 6 desperate attention whore postings
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07-24-02, 07:03 PM (EST)

9. "Mole Money"

I think that the mole should be paid all of the money that they keep out of the pot. Its just an idea but I think it would be interesting.

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TheBoredGuy 49 desperate attention whore postings
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07-24-02, 07:26 PM (EST)

10. "RE: Mole Money"

I'm not 100% positive on this, but I seem to recall Manny saying last year that everyone who played did get some sort of payout, scaled based on how long they lasted. My assumption is that the percentage comes from the money not won by the group.

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07-25-02, 04:10 AM (EST)

11. "RE: Mole Money"

So many people say this, but it doesn't make much sense to me.
If the mole has such a high incentive to screw up challenges, his identity would be too easily revealed. The mole should be motivated *primarily* to conceal his identity. One way to misdirect people is by contributing positively whenever possible, so the producers wouldn't want to discourage that. The mole already has enough motivation to cost the team money, because that's his role in the game. If you add personal gain into the equation, it would be too much.
It would also cost the producers more money, as they'd have to give away the full million dollars. As it is now, they only have to give away about half that. (plus the mole's salary)
Also, I would imagine that the audience is cheering for the players to earn more money.
It's entirely possible that his salary *is* tied to the pot, in that he will not earn his full pay if the pot ends up being too large. In other words, he's paid the money that was kept out of the pot, but that salary is capped at a certain amount in order to keep the greed factor limited.

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07-25-02, 04:16 AM (EST)

12. "As mentioned before...."

...Kat never confirmed how much she got, or what it was based on.
Ideally (in my mind ) the salary would be based on a two-dimensional sliding scale, with the axes being successful sabotage and lack of detection (as demonstrated by quiz responses)

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Molzingvivor 48 desperate attention whore postings
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07-25-02, 12:16 PM (EST)

13. "RE: As mentioned before...."

>...Kat never confirmed how much she got, or what it was based on.
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>Ideally (in my mind ) the salary would be based on a two-dimensional sliding scale, with the axes being successful sabotage and lack of detection (as demonstrated by quiz responses)

I was thinking the exact same thing. Some formula such as $1,000 for every player who doesn't correctly identify the mole on each quiz and 10% of all money the team loses. That should add up to $100-125K in the end.

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wildchickenhunter 3192 desperate attention whore postings
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07-25-02, 02:13 PM (EST)

15. "RE: As mentioned before...."

I am with you...except I think it should be a four way sliding scale, with axes X being succesful sabotage, Y being lack of detection, Z being amount of food eaten and W being words spoken. Then with z they should take the standard variance between the most expensive meal eaten by any player and the least expensive meal eaten by any player.This would then be plotted for each meal eaten for the entire time they are filming.Then on the W axis you would take all the words spoken by all the players each day divided by the words spoken by the mole each day. This would give you an average number of words spoken by the mole each day. Then they could plot the variance between each day on the W access.
Now because we have a three dimesional graph we would have sphers of payout amounts. If a mean average standard deviation landed within a spher then that is what you got paid.
Oh sh*t, why not just give them $125000 and forget about it.

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