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"journal exchange"
Seyz 198 desperate attention whore postings
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06-02-02, 06:40 PM (EST)
 
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1. "RE: journal exchange" |
Only read if you've seen Episode 3-Maybe Lisa gets booted next because she got Bill's journal.. for those of you who think that Bill is the mole...
If Lisa got Bill's journal and the journal is VERY convincingly real (remember the mole would write in his or her journal but make up stuff to make the journal seem real.) So maybe Lisa got tricked by Bill's journal into thinking that there's no way Bill IS the mole.. and so when she takes the quiz.. she totally disregards Bill as the mole... and therefore she gets booted. But this is only if Bill really is the mole? Also note that Myra gets Katie's journal. I remember Elavia hearing about Katie writing bad things about her in her journal. If Elavia hears about this.. then it means Myra has been spreading what's written in Katie's journal..
I remember Kathyrn said that as the mole she tried to cause dissention among the ranks. She said post game that she was trying to get people to quarrel and get everyone divided. Could Myra be doing the same thing?
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WHaTTHeMoLe 135 desperate attention whore postings
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06-27-02, 01:50 PM (EST)
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3. "Journals: the living and the executed" |
Since this week's episode was a little short on clues, I decided to take a look at an old item that no one has mentioned for awhile: the journals. Maybe this is meaningless, but it's something to think about. I was wondering if the Mole's original journal is still in the game? Barring all opinions of who the Mole is for the moment, let's take a look: Of the remaining seven players, Bribs', Al's, Heather's, and Darwin's original journals are still in play (they went to Al, Darwin, Bill, and Bribs, respectively). Meanwhile, Bill's journal (which went to Lisa, who as we all know was executed immediately), Dorothy's (who went to Rob, who was the next to go), and Katie's (goodbye Myra) are gone. One hypothesis: since the Mole would have known the journals were being switched, they probably would have used that to their advantage--I hope I'm not being too presumptuous to assume that whoever received the Mole's journal is no longer in the game. But maybe I am. Is it simply a coincidence, then, that Bill, Dorothy, and Katie are three of the favorite Mole suspects at this point? (I'm sure someone will jump all over me and say that Heather is still a prime suspect, as is Darwin. Agreed. However, I've heard some interesting "clues" that pertain to Bill, Dorothy, and Katie, whereas those who suspect Heather and Darwin generally back it up with only their behavior and an elusive clue from closed captioning--please, let's not go there again.) So... is the Mole's journal still alive and well? Or was it used as yet another tool of manipulation, deception, and ultimate victory over one of the other players? -WHaTHeMoLE
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06-27-02, 01:58 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Journals: the living and the executed" |
So... is the Mole's journal still alive and well? Or was it used as yet another tool of manipulation, deception, and ultimate victory over one of the other players? What an excellent question to be considering, especially since next week some of the players will be getting new journals (See this thread: Episode 8 Quiz. It will be fascinating to see whose journals are exchanged or taken out of the game. Thanks for reminding us whose journals are still in play. And welcome, welcome, welcome! I don't know what impressed me more about your first post - the interesting points you made, or the fact that you dug through older posts to find the original journal one. Looking forward to more of your insights.
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06-27-02, 05:11 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Journals: the living and the executed" |
Good post! It flowed really well!However, there is a chance that the player who received the mole's journal may have simply use it for clues, and did not change their mind. That's what I would do at least. If I thought it was Al, and I got a new journal, I would look through it and find any Al clues I missed. Some of the players did express skepticism about "conspiracy" with the journals (i.e. Bribs labeling Darwin's pages). Or perhaps, one of the remaining players thinks (and possibly is right) that they have received the mole's journal. If I thought it was Dorothy, and I received Dorothy's journal, I probably would be wary of anything in it. Still, I really like your analysis! It's nice to see someone who bases information from logic. 
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06-27-02, 05:43 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Journals: the living and the executed" |
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>Of the remaining seven players, Bribs',
>Al's, Heather's, and Darwin's original
>journals are still in play
>(they went to Al, Darwin,
>Bill, and Bribs, respectively).
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It's interesting that from the show, we know that Al, Darwin,
and Bribs are in a coalition. And from your description that
their diaries are also within their coalition. Is it possible
that those three realize none of them are the mole so they
formed temporary alliance to prevent information on their diaries
from being shared by others?
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WHaTTHeMoLe 135 desperate attention whore postings
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06-27-02, 06:02 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Journals: the living and the executed" |
Jims-
Thanks for the input!I'm going to go ahead and run with your argument that whoever received the Mole's journal read it with a grain of salt and is still in the game. That means we need to look at Bribs, Al, Heather, and Darwin. I'm going to rule out Bribs because it's painfully obvious to me that he isn't the Mole (I won't waste time explaining here), and Al as well (some may disagree but at this point I'd rather not get into it). That leaves us with Darwin and Heather. Scenario 1: Heather is the Mole. Bill receives her journal but suspects her (or can't make heads or tails of her organization--a possiblity if you recall his comments regarding her journal--and disegards it completely), and remains in the game. This is somewhat consistent with his actions, especially his profuse blaming of Heather for his failure in the gnome home game. It's a little inconsistent since he tried to claim that Elavia was at the top of his list, but moving on... Scenario 2: Darwin is the Mole. His journal goes to Bribs, who, at that point in the game suspects everyone (and rightly so), and simply uses the journal to record his own information. Still being suspect of Darwin, he forms a coalition in order to keep an eye on him (?). He also forms one with Heather because if Darwin is the Mole he needs to be getting good information from somewhere else. Or maybe he forms it simply because he's male, and, well, look at her... :0) Obviously, Bribs either trusts Darwin a lot or is fairly sure he's the Mole. (I'm going with the former since on his love/hate lists Darwin fell in the middle both times, and most people were throwing their first and last spots to Mole suspects.) Mook- I tend to think your assessment of the Bribs-Darwin-Al coalition is right. I think they feel none of them are the Mole and are just using each other for information and misdirection as long as possible. How does everyone else feel about these scenarios that assume the Mole's journal is still in the game? I'm not sure they work for me, but they're worth discussing. -WHaTHeMoLe
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06-27-02, 06:19 PM (EST)
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8. "KATIEFOMO plug" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-27-02 AT 07:08 PM (EST)(Edited to note that I'm a big doofus who doesnt understand what he posts)
By the same token, there is only one person still in the game whose journal went to an executed player who, at the time that player was executed, was making a big deal about said journal... (read it again if you didn't get it... been reading a lot of Faulkner lately  ) ...and that is KATIE!! Remember the journal fuss right before Patrick licked the big one? Just thought i'd harp on it... "By that logic, I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.""Really? How does it work?" "It doesn't work....but I dont see any tigers around, do you?" "Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock!" -HJ & L S.
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WHaTTHeMoLe 135 desperate attention whore postings
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06-27-02, 06:50 PM (EST)
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10. "a little sound and fury" |
>By the same token, there is only one person still in the game whose journal went to an executed player... Actually, you've got that backwards. Katie got Patrick's journal, not the other way around. Maybe you should lay off the Faulkner until this season of the Mole is over... Malibubarbie- I agree that Bribs suspects Heather. I actually don't think the Mole's journal is still in the game, I was just playing out a string of logic to see if it worked. It didn't. For the record, I'm pretty much a BILLFOMO. That said, I think you're right about Bribs' coalitions. I wasn't trying to insinuate that there was any relationship between he and Heather, either, I was just being facetious. (While I'm on the subject of being facetious, can I say how much I miss Elavia already? The way she was messing with everyone's minds was artfully priceless. I hope Dorothy can make it the rest of the way without her to use as a diversion. Moving on.) I'm trying to complile a list of who each player suspects from most to least likely. Unfortunately, I just loaned all my tapes to a friend so she could catch up on the episodes she missed, so I can't peruse them all right now. I think someone already started a thread on this anyway so I don't think it belongs here. Party on... -WHaTHeMoLe
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06-27-02, 07:44 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: journal exchange" |
One thing I'd like to add to this post: The Patrick factor. It was stated ad nauseam that Patrick's journal contained a littany of info on every aspect of the game. At first, that very journal is what I thought was keeping two very weak players in the game (Katie & Heather). I'm not sure what to make of it at this point, but I do think they have done an excellent job of using that journal info to their advantage.
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07-20-02, 08:04 PM (EST)
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21. "THE NUMBER FOURTEEN" |
is probably so prominent because there are/were 14 contestants. Hence, the original journals were numbered 1-14, and blah blah blah.
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07-21-02, 12:59 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: THE NUMBER FOURTEEN" |
Yeah, I believe so. I'll go back and double check. It's just, they focus somehow on the numbers 14. So, maybe it's pointing to Dorothy or Bill, because they're the only 2 who switched to one another still in the game. It could very well be a hidden clue, because, I doubt they'd focus on it if it wasn't "important." They might, but I remember in one episode, they showed Al sneaking down the hall jotting down all of the room numbers, so I'm assuming that the players think it may come in handy.  
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07-21-02, 02:47 PM (EST)
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25. "groups of three" |
i was taking a look at the journals (who got whose, etc.) a while back. i don't know why i didn't post it then, but i am now. i don't know if this bears any significance to the identity of the mole, but i guess you all can figure that out when they passed journals they, essentially, split into four groups of three and passed their journals once. i'll show this. those in all caps are the remaining players. HEATHER'S ----> BILL
BILL'S -------> lisa
lisa's -------> HEATHER AL'S ---------> darwin
darwin's -----> bribs
bribs' -------> AL katie's ------> myra
myra's -------> patrick
patrick's ----> katie DOROTHY'S ----> rob
rob's --------> elavia
elavia's -----> DOROTHY Dorothy and Al are the only players in their circles that are left. Darwin and Bribs only went down recently while Rob and Elavia left awhile ago. Lisa went very quickly. did this tip off Heather, Bill or both (seeing as they're both left) Katie, Myra, and Patrick are all 3 gone. what could this mean? i'm not sure what to make of this, but i thought it might be a nice discussion piece
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