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"Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
I wanna do it this week!!!

Anyway... It's a virtual tie this week. Stone Stanley has done a much better job this year in hiding the Mole. We have three suspect which can all be the mole. There is very little separating each of them...

1. Dennis Rodman

He was my suspect all along, but last week I switched to Tracey... I guess that is fate's way to keep me RodmanFOMO. Very laid back and quiet. Sabotages often, but subtlely. Plays games very similarly to past moles.

Counterpoint: Did Tracey get executed because she thought Dennis were the mole, thus giving an exemption to another player? Also, mark forshadowing statements of Rodman winning: "If I can make it through this execution, I will win this game."

2. Mark Curry

I still have this nagging suspicion about that Episode 3 quiz question. It may not have been a mistake. Mark has sabotaged quite a few games, both overtly and covertly. Would be a different type of moleplay. Reverse psychology.

Counterpoint: Both Corbin and Tracey mentioned strong suspicion of Mark, possibly leading to executions.

3. Angie Everhart (just barely)

Her strategy to make herself look like the mole kind of fizzled out toward the end. Much less obvious in the last couple episodes. If she is the mole, she costed the team a TON of money, so I applaud her.

Counterpoint: Many times, early executees go for the obvious suspect and Ananda probably had a suspicion of Angie... Also, would the mole REALLY sabotage so many games? That obviously?


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 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 PlumBlossom 02-05-04 1
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 Bebo 02-05-04 2
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 Loree 02-05-04 3
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 Estee 02-05-04 4
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 true 02-05-04 5
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 weltek 02-05-04 6
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 Bucky Katt 02-05-04 7
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 I_AM_HE 02-05-04 8
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 Oscirus 02-05-04 9
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 kpod 02-05-04 10
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 memacmur 02-05-04 11
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 soccergurl1560 02-05-04 12
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 MoleMonkey 02-06-04 13
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 joannie 02-06-04 14
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 Radiation 02-06-04 15
   RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 Molaholic 02-07-04 16
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 buckeyegirl 02-07-04 17
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 EmeraldBrooch 02-07-04 18
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 ejm92 02-10-04 19
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 DoodleBug 02-10-04 20
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 LeftPinky 02-10-04 21
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 Monicanada 02-10-04 22
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 mikey 02-10-04 23
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 DRONES 02-11-04 24
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 Tiger Lily 02-11-04 25
 RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5 ulalame 02-11-04 26
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1. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Mark Curry
2. Dennis Rodman
3. Angie Everhart


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2. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Dennis - Maybe I'm blinded by wanting it to be him, since I do think he'd be such a cool choice. After all, his actions or inactions could so easily be dismissed by "that's just Dennis being Dennis".

2. Angie - Are we being hit over the head with the stupid 7s, or what? Would Stone Stanley really give us two supermodels in a row? Why was she trying to hard during the noses game?

3. Mark - My putting him at the bottom means it's probably him. I just can't shake the notion that he knows who it is and changed his gameplay last episode to start a misdirection campaign, a la the first season of regular Mole.

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3. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Mark - I have been a MarkFOMO since the first episode and since he is still around I am not changing that. I believe he uses his little jokes to sabatoge and not be taken seriously. He has continued to cost them money without looking too obvious. He will cause them to lose money and then turn around and make it through the maze to make people doubt him. And he almost - but not quite ate all the food that night. He went along with the girls skinny dipping. But he didn't do it. He almost always picks first and arranges who is in who's group. I think Tracey thought it was Dennis and that is what hurt her. And I believe both Ananda and Corbin were targetting Angie when they were executed. That leaves Mark in my mind.

2. Dennis - I don't really think he is the mole. But I think he is more likely the mole than Angie. I think Dennis is very observant and actually knows who the mole is.

3. Angie - If Angie is the mole she is the most obvious and emotional mole they have ever had. And I would be very upset if she is the mole. She came right out and obviously lost them money over and over again at the beginning. And we are being hit over the head with #7 and even Angie herself pointed it out lastnight that she has journal #7. Too obvious.

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4. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Angie. Because enough clues point that way to make all of them false leads. Because not even the real Mole would take that much money out of the pot. Because an actual Mole might have done better on the elementary school exam out of sheer pride. (I'm jealous of WhatTheMole right now. Talk about walking into a comedic gold mine.) Because they'd never do two supermodels in a row. Because there is no possible way she could be the Mole. And therefore, she gets the pole position. Counter-intuition to the rescue.

2. Dennis. Because as Bebo pointed out, just about anything he does is 'Dennis being Dennis', up to and possibly including setting the hotel on fire. Because he's so laid back that four Craftmatic adjustable beds are required to get him into a sitting position. Because no one's that much of a contrarian without a copy of Principia Discordia stapled to their hip.

3. Mark. Because he has extraordinary short-term memory lapses in the food department. Because he takes the point in most of the contests, then promptly shoots himself in the foot. Because he's so obvious that he's doing everything but getting a Mole tattoo -- oh, wait. He did that.

(Watch the quiz be a tie.)

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5. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Dennis-


for-

Come on. Nobody can be that disinterested and last this long.

Because I pegged reason #1 from the beginning.

Tracey being executed after giving Dennis the exemption is perfect misdirection.

He gets the goofiest grin on his face when people get eliminated. He's a really bad actor.

Against-

I've never been right before.

2. Mark/Angie

The've been equally misdirecting with intentional sabatoge. If it's not Dennis, it could be either of them.

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6. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Dennis: Very moleish the whole time, but was discounting it til after my 2 other suspects were booted. Many of the taxi clues pointed to Dennis, as does the wrestler challenge.

2. Mark: Has played the game much like the Mole should. He takes control of situations without being obvious he's the Mole.

3. Angie: She still got nekkid in the first ep. & put more money in the pot & she's played too hard.

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7. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Angie Everhat - She is the mole - I am certain of it. In almost every game she is the one who is in the best position to control how much money went into the pot. Case in point, the donkey riding game where she was the one translating - that person had all the power to get the correct or incorrect items. The only other person in that position was Tracy who is now gone.

2. Mark Curry - Not the mole

3. Dennis Rodman - Not the mole

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8. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Angie - I started out as a CorbinFOMO, then switched to DennisFOMO, and had no reason to waiver...until last night. I'm convinced now that it's Angie.

2. Dennis - if it's NOT Angie, I'll go back to my previous pick. I think he'll win though.

3. Mark - I don't know what the hell he's doing, but he's not the mole.


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9. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1.Dennis Rodman-Been my pick from day one and still is. The fact that hes the pnly one of the remaining three not to state plans that he wants to purposely sabotage events to make people think that he is the mole.
2.Mark Curry- Suspect him more than angie
3.Angie everheart she is so not the mole so lets move on


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10. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Dennis -- I didn't want it to be him, because he has been just too obvious about it in too many ways. But the other two have both told the confessional at some point, "today I'm going to make people think I'm the Mole", and I'm just stuck on that being a sure-fire non-mole "tell". 1:2

2. Angie -- Second choice, only because her behavior has been relatively consistent with being the Mole. And then there is that #7 thing... 4:1

3. Mark -- The leftovers game. The artifact game. The maze game. The man is just playing too hard. 6:1

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11. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
I write this list with a heavy heart, having had my mole eliminated last week. Come back Tracey, come back!

1. Dennis : Why else would you have a red bull pinata and a trivia question that added up to his last basketball jersey number. The only game he's played AND done noticeably well in was the tequila transport/worm-eating episode. Perhaps that was his sole act of blatant trying.

2. Mark : I'm pretty sure he has now taken more money away from the pot than Angie, and he's been doing it later in the game, whereas Angie seemed to try and do her misdirection early, and has been trying to grow the pot in the last few episodes.

3. Angie : Even ranked last, she is still a good mole candidate. Her behaviour has been erratic in competitions - from looking like she's playing her heart out (pun intended), to looking like she's trying to sabotage.

I dare say this has been a more satisfying Celebrity Mole than the first run was. Just hope they bring back the regular Mole this summer.

And I still think Tracey should sneak back in and eliminate the rest of the players. boo hoo!

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12. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
I think it has been Dennis from week 1. He has just never seen interested in anything and he couldn't have gotten this far without seeming to do anything.

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13. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Mark
2. Dennis
3. Angie
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1) Angie
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15. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
First of all, for parading the TraceyFOMO banner (like so many of us have been this season), I would like to request that my order of Crow be served medium rare, with a side order of My Foot.

1. Angie. Lord it hates me to say this, but the number 7 theory has been banged into our heads so often now, it's next to impossible to ignore anymore. Add to that all of the heart references, even going all the way back to the pinata game with the heart lollipops. If she is the Mole, my hat goes off to her for playing one heck of a game.

2. Dennis. See all other reasonings about "too crazy to assume Rodman is the Mole" theory. But something in my gut won't let it be him. No explanation here, just gut level feeling. But then again, my gut level feeling had me TraceyFOMO since Ep. 1, so there goes that idea.

3. Mark. Definintely trying too hard to look like the Mole. I still have him as my winner.

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16. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"

OK, once more into the breech!

1. MARK CURRY Been a CurryFoMo since day negative 10. Too stubborn to change now. Unfortunatly, he won't be the winner, either.

2. ANGIE EVERHARTThose nagging 7 clues ... the tequila game using bottles of 'Anjie' ... sabotage via 'dumb chick' persona ... painted like crap ... heart lollies

3. DENNIS RODMANYep ... he's my pick to take home the dinero. That 'I don't give a firetruck' attitude belies his true observational talent and intelligence.


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17. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"

1. Dennis-I think he's one of the few players who has stated that he is trying to make everyone believe he is the mole.
2. Mark-I still can't decide if he's the mole, or just doing a good job at pretending to be the mole.
3. Angie-I have two problems with her being the mole: Would they really have another supermodel and women be the mole again? However, it would be a good way to throw us all off track.


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Ohh, what a great way to show off my new siggy...

1) MARK
I have also been a MarkFoMo, when the game first came out. Of course, I stuck with Keisha because I wanted her to be the mole, but I was still a Curry (riiiight) Anyway, the other two have had so many clues pointed to them. Dennis and all his past careers and nick names, and everywhere you look there a #7 popping up. Mark's had only a few subtle clues. And the words MARK on the mole photo really hit the spot for me.

2) ANGIE
I do this because I would rather have her be the mole then Dennis. I'm not sure who I want to have win yet.

3) DENNIS
Because he's going to win this whole thing


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19. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Curry
2. Rodman
3. Angie

Not much to this list.....I've suspected Curry since the pre-show.....and suspected that Angie wasn't since the pre-show.


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20. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
I'm not happy with this final 3 at all. I wanted Tracey to be teh mole, dang it!!!!! /rant

1. Dennis - I don't want him to be the mole, but he's better than the other two.

2. Angie - too many obvious clues. I can't think they would give us two supermodel moles in a row.

3. Mark - he knows who the mole is or he is the mole.


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21. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Dennis - Because it wasn't Tracey and I think Mark knows who it is, he was my other "final three" choice. By process of elimination, it's him.

2. Angie - I can't believe it's her, but I think Mark knows the Mole, so it's not him. Process of elimination, she's second.

3. Mark - read above.

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22. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Mark Curry
2. Dennis Rodman
3. Angie Everhart - wins the moolah
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23. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Dennis -- now that Tracey's out -- I have seen many clues pointing to him, and virtually none pointing to the other two. They all have screwed up various tasks, so clues are the best things to go on. One more clue from last week -- title of game "Donkey Rally" = D.R. (Otherwise why would they use the word "rally")

2. Angie -- I Saw the first half of the lingerie bowl, hmmmm, what were we talking about again?

3. Mark -- Third, but it would not be inconceivable.

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24. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
My contention early on was that if Dennis lasted this far he would be the mole.

Mark is a close second, but his overtly moley behavior puts him in second place.

Angie isn't even a close third. She has been overly emotional which is not a trait of the mole.

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25. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
1. Dennis
2. Mark
3. Angie

Echoing Jim's reasons, mostly.


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26. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
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I was leaning toward Dennis all along. There's some great analysis supporting him over on the realiiity.com board here in which MsBish speculates that:

"The tequilla worm thing (yeah yeah we know he was The Worm in the NBA)
Why ask the capital of NJ last night? Gee Wasn't Rodman born in Trenton?
And what was up with the "how many minutes in hour and 31 minutes?" Rodman wore 91 for the Bulls.

He wanted Tracey out.. he stopped Mark from advancing knowing that Tracey winning meant she would NOT get the exemption."

However, I'm now persuaded that the mole is Mark, again from some great speculation
over at realiiity.com from Stumpy:

"Great analysis!


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Was it just me or were the wrestlers almost allowing Mark to win? They totally had him several times and ignored him. They also grouped together several times when they could have spread out. Odd. The producers need to leave it alone.

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I felt that way too. There were several instances where Mark ended up face to face with the wrestlers. All the wrestler had to do was reach out and touch him...but they didn't.

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I saw this from the ABC board. Question 2 from last night's quiz was...

Who was the mole sitting next to at the last Execution ceremony?
a. Stephen and Mark
b. Corbin and Tracey
c. Tracey and Keshia
d. Mark and Angie
e. Angie and Dennis
f. Only Keshia
g. Only Corbin

The seating order for Ep2's execution was Corbin-Keshia-Mark-Tracey-Stephen-Angie-Dennis. We can quickly eliminate several of the possible answers by deduction...
b. Corbin and Tracey Not possible because there are 2 people between them.
d. Mark and Angie Not possible for the same reason as above
e. Angie and Dennis Not possible because no one is between them.
f. Only Keshia Not possible because Corbin was already eliminated
g. Only Corbin Not possible because Keisha, who was sitting beside Corbin, was also sitting beside Mark.

That leaves us with 2 possible answers
a. Stephen and Mark...which is Tracey
c. Tracey and Keshia...which is Mark

Soo...Mark or Tracey is the mole."

Since we know that Tracey is not the mole, it's gotta be Mark. Whew! Glad there are so many people smarter than me out there who can do my thinking for me!

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27. "RE: Mole Suspect List v. 4.5"
>Was it just me or were
>the wrestlers almost allowing Mark
>to win? They totally had
>him several times and ignored
>him. They also grouped together
>several times when they could
>have spread out. Odd. The
>producers need to leave it
>alone.

I have to admit I noticed this too. At one point the wrestlers were actually dancing to the Mariachi music as Mark slipped past them exit-ward.

On the other hand, if you examine the maze layout you'd see there was no way to win without the wrestlers' help. All three exits could be guarded effectively from just two points, and if the wrestlers just stayed around those spots no one could ever win.

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