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""Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""

Once again we assemble a collection of Survivor super fans that come from all walks of life (TM)... if you include Crossfit boxes, mother's basements and organic beeswax daycare centers as suitable scoop-em-up collection centers for all walks of life.

Engineering this two-hour spectacular of Reversing the Curse, highlighting stereotypes and cultivating paranoia was pretty exhausting, so please discuss your impressions of the Nitwitty and Mal-adjusted tribes.

Adult beverages will be served.




Mark "Ghost Island-Where do I come up with this stuff?" Burnett
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1. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
When this 36th season was being filmed it also marked the 70th Anniversary of the Roswell, NM conspiracy where theorists STILL believe autopsies were performed on little green men with large heads, big black eyes, and skinny little limbs.

Even though almost three-quarters of a century later believers still orgasm over this conspiracy; the Aruba Commission remains undaunted in its efforts to disclose findings from last night’s Premier of Survivor: Ghost Island.


FINDING #1 – Want to give your newborn the inside track to become a future Reality Show DAW? Screw up a letter in its name. Last season we had Devon with an “o” instead of an “i.” Other former castaways included Alecia with an “e” instead of an “i,” Jaime with “im” instead of “mi” and so on... This season we are introduced to Donathan with a “D” instead of a “J.”

FINDING #2 – Our good pal Kingfish must have been distraught last season with the lack of plastic boobie sightings. Production has more than made up for it this installment...perhaps it may consider renaming this season Survivor: Silicone Valley. This leads directly to Finding #3.

FINDING #3 – It’s one thing to sport a set of plastic boobies. It’s quite another to know how to use them...the Commission presents Stephanie. Enter one awkward 22-year old musician and I give you an infatuated loser who is bound to fold like a cheap suit at the first sight of cleavage.
As a result, the Ghost Island scorecard after the Season Premier: Plastic Boobies -1, Curse reversal – 0. Now Jacob must leave the “best tribe in Survivor history” to board the “best” flight taking him home. It would be unfair cruelty to have stewardesses with plastic boobies aboard a very turbulent flight heading back to the States.

FINDING #4 – Domenick can’t tell a lie, so he puts himself at risk publicly criticizing the decision to bail out of the season’s first challenge painting a huge target on his back. The target becomes larger when the man who can’t tell a lie proceeds to...well...tell a lie about his HII find. Despite this inconsistency, he may have bought himself a little more time by “pulling a Ben.”
“Pulling a ben” refers to last season’s Champion who was allowed to find a HII(s) due to all the other players who were fast asleep. For Dom’s sake the entire cast will need to suffer from narcolepsy (a condition causing sufferers to experience excessive sleepiness.) Good luck with that!

FINDING #5 – The Commission is still determining which was worse. Angela openly admitting she’s horrible in the water, or James who doesn’t inform his tribe and costs his team an IC. Clearly both may be expendable with many challenges involving water. Although, in the end it may be a moot point because most challenges will ultimately come down to (and I quote the accurate and appropriate words of last season’s Champion) “DAMN FRIGGIN’ PUZZLES!”

FINDING #6 – Eighteen-year old Michael feels the need to lie about his age. Not sure why because it’s doubtful anyone would look at him and assume he’s a teenager. Should be interesting for future reward challenges involving alcohol. Jeff will now need to get around this without blowing Michael’s cover.

FINDING #7 – Production needs to do something about the commotion during TC that’s becoming obnoxious. Please go back to the good ‘ole days when players had to keep their darn traps shut during TC. Like it really impacts the final vote?? Viewers/fans would have to ignorantly possess the mental capacity of a door stop to believe Gonzalez did not have an overwhelming number of votes against her even BEFORE they took the walk to TC despite her meaningless and annoying scramble.

FINDING #8 – One Loser in Love (Jacob) is history...but we still have Donathan. Jeff must be praying Donathan does not seek his help to find him a soulmate as Ryan did last season. Probst would have better luck finding an honest castaway with integrity who does not lie on Survivor than finding a gay redneck in Eastern Kentucky.

FINDING #9 – Will “Ghost Island” crack the top five all-time worst/lamest twists in Survivor history? With the Premier in the books, we’re not exactly off to the most auspicious start. Despite the final verdict, that’s quite an elaborate set up for this season’s island of exile. The Commission concludes many sponsors providing over-the-top rewards to help defray the added expense incurred for this twist.

FINDING #10 – NEXT TIME ON SURVIVOR...”Drop your buffs.”
WOW, wasting no time with tribal switch. So, on just Day Four we’ll already have conspiracy theorists crying foul based on particular outcomes on newly formed tribes. The Aruba Commission predicts “PAUL” will be “BURIED” mighty deep on Wednesday.

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2. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
Oooooo...two Stephanie's...Oooooo.

Coincidence? Not likely, it's more likely that one is a...well, something spooky and unnatural.

The blue eyed Stephanie flashed us, probably to fool us into thinking that she wasn't born in a laboratory test tube. Those blue eyes are hypnotic, at least to those whose attention wanders from the flashing. Firmly natural, I chose to believe.

The other Stephanie? Which one is she again?

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3. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
The other Stephanie went by the name "Gonzalez." She's the one who obnoxiously got into the guy's ears at TC and appropriately got her annoying butt tossed.

As for the Stephanie in our conversation...Yes, blue eyes especially with dark hair is a hypnotic combination.

If the Premier is an early indication, Stephanie appears to be long for this season. If so, by Day 30 we'll see if she's skin and bones...or skin and bones and silicone.

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4. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
LAST EDITED ON 03-02-18 AT 10:37 AM (EST)

>FINDING #1 – Want to give
>your newborn the inside track
>to become a future Reality
>Show DAW? Screw up a
>letter in its name. Last
>season we had Devon with
>an “o” instead of an
>“i.” Other former castaways included
>Alecia with an “e” instead
>of an “i,” Jaime with
>“im” instead of “mi” and
>so on... This season we
>are introduced to Donathan with
>a “D” instead of a
>“J.”

It took you 36 season's to "Find" this? I'll bring you back to season 1 episode 1 where SonJa was voted out only to be rechristened "Souna" by a boy named Sue.


>FINDING #2 – Our good pal
>Kingfish must have been distraught
>last season with the lack
>of plastic boobie sightings. Production
>has more than made up
>for it this installment...perhaps it
>may consider renaming this season
>Survivor: Silicone Valley. This leads
>directly to Finding #3.

You cannot call this a finding without visual evidence. Pictures man! Pictures!!

>FINDING #3 – It’s one thing
>to sport a set of
>plastic boobies. It’s quite another
>to know how to use
>them...the Commission presents Stephanie. Enter
>one awkward 22-year old musician
>and I give you an
>infatuated loser who is bound
>to fold like a cheap
>suit at the first sight
>of cleavage.
>As a result, the Ghost Island
>scorecard after the Season Premier:
>Plastic Boobies -1, Curse reversal
>– 0. Now Jacob must
>leave the “best tribe in
>Survivor history” to board the
>“best” flight taking him home.
>It would be unfair cruelty
>to have stewardesses with plastic
>boobies aboard a very turbulent
>flight heading back to the
>States.

Your finding missed the best part of Stephanie's tactic: She got Jacob to tell her about Sierra's Legacy and that Morgan now has it. I don't need to wait for next week to say that Stephanie and Morgan will be on the same tribe and that Stephanie will work to become Morgan's best friend until she blindsides her and gets the legacy for herself.

>FINDING #4 – Domenick can’t tell
>a lie, so he puts
>himself at risk publicly criticizing
>the decision to bail out
>of the season’s first challenge
>painting a huge target on
>his back. The target becomes
>larger when the man who
>can’t tell a lie proceeds
>to...well...tell a lie about his
>HII find. Despite this inconsistency,
>he may have bought himself
>a little more time by
>“pulling a Ben.”
>“Pulling a ben” refers to last
>season’s Champion who was allowed
>to find a HII(s) due
>to all the other players
>who were fast asleep. For
>Dom’s sake the entire cast
>will need to suffer from
>narcolepsy (a condition causing sufferers
>to experience excessive sleepiness.) Good
>luck with that!

Your Finding was blinded by editing: Dom certainly wasn't the only one to regret Chris' decision and he's probably has a bigger coalition than the tribe's original leader. Anyway, the swap will probably separate those two.

>FINDING #5 – The Commission is
>still determining which was worse.
>Angela openly admitting she’s horrible
>in the water, or James
>who doesn’t inform his tribe
>and costs his team an
>IC. Clearly both may be
>expendable with many challenges involving
>water. Although, in the end
>it may be a moot
>point because most challenges will
>ultimately come down to (and
>I quote the accurate and
>appropriate words of last season’s
>Champion) “DAMN FRIGGIN’ PUZZLES!”

Finding incomplete: There was also Morgan who ducked behind everyone else so that Chris wouldn't pick her to do the puzzle. That move wasn't bad at all because it led to Jacob giving her the legacy advantage. And for the very athletic James, showing a weakness is actually great for his future. He won't appear so threatening. So clearly worse was Angela's admission. She simply could have volunteered to sit out without revealing a weakness, which, for a woman could be fatal.

>FINDING #6 – Eighteen-year old Michael
>feels the need to lie
>about his age. Not sure
>why because it’s doubtful anyone
>would look at him and
>assume he’s a teenager. Should
>be interesting for future reward
>challenges involving alcohol. Jeff will
>now need to get around
>this without blowing Michael’s cover.

What kind of finding is this? Michael can simply say that he doesn't drink. Problem solved.

>FINDING #7 – Production needs to
>do something about the commotion
>during TC that’s becoming obnoxious.
>Please go back to the
>good ‘ole days when players
>had to keep their darn
>traps shut during TC. Like
>it really impacts the final
>vote?? Viewers/fans would have to
>ignorantly possess the mental capacity
>of a door stop to
>believe Gonzalez did not have
>an overwhelming number of votes
>against her even BEFORE they
>took the walk to TC
>despite her meaningless and annoying
>scramble.

Yes, Survivor was much better when Burnett was on hand and keeping a tight fist on things. With Probst, it's become a farce, a game show.

>FINDING #8 – One Loser in
>Love (Jacob) is history...but we
>still have Donathan. Jeff must
>be praying Donathan does not
>seek his help to find
>him a soulmate as Ryan
>did last season. Probst would
>have better luck finding an
>honest castaway with integrity who
>does not lie on Survivor
>than finding a gay redneck
>in Eastern Kentucky.

Well we know that there was one, so I say finding another wouldn't be that hard. After all, Donathan never said he was celibate just that he was more out than others.

>FINDING #9 – Will “Ghost Island”
>crack the top five all-time
>worst/lamest twists in Survivor history?
>With the Premier in the
>books, we’re not exactly off
>to the most auspicious start.
>Despite the final verdict, that’s
>quite an elaborate set up
>for this season’s island of
>exile. The Commission concludes many
>sponsors providing over-the-top rewards to
>help defray the added expense
>incurred for this twist.

It's lame and a huge waste of time but probably not as bad as the Final 3 or the F4 Fire Challenge.

>FINDING #10 – NEXT TIME ON
>SURVIVOR...”Drop your buffs.”
>WOW, wasting no time with tribal
>switch. So, on just Day
>Four we’ll already have conspiracy
>theorists crying foul based on
>particular outcomes on newly formed
>tribes. The Aruba Commission predicts
>“PAUL” will be “BURIED” mighty
>deep on Wednesday.

Episode 2 ended on Day 6. Ever since Africa, the less gullible viewers have seen every tribal swap as a way for production to rearrange the game to their liking, to save a sinking ship, to lend a helping hand and to eliminate a less likable player.

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5. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
>It took you 36 season's to
>"Find" this? I'll bring
>you back to season 1
>episode 1 where SonJa was
>voted out only to be
>rechristened "Souna" by a boy
>named Sue.

For the record, the Aruba Commission formed less than five months ago. Consequently, it was not in existence to disclose any findings during the previous seasons. Furthermore, the Commission determines this finding is best disclosed right after a season Premier when we have the FULL compliment of an ENTIRE season’s cast. Let the record show this is the very FIRST PREMIER the Aruba Commission disclosed this (or any) finding.

Finally, it does not recall this finding ever being mentioned in the Basher Forum even before the Commission’s formation.

>You cannot call this a finding
>without visual evidence. Pictures
>man! Pictures!!


Visual evidence you say?! Nothing wrong with the Commission’s “visual” of the plastic boobies the female castaways had no reservations flashing.


>Your finding missed the best part
>of Stephanie's tactic: She
>got Jacob to tell her
>about Sierra's Legacy and that
>Morgan now has it.
>I don't need to wait
>for next week to say
>that Stephanie and Morgan will
>be on the same tribe
>and that Stephanie will work
>to become Morgan's best friend
>until she blindsides her and
>gets the legacy for herself.


Well of course Stephanie got Jacob to tell her. LMAO. Nothing that a little (or a lot) of cleavage couldn’t accomplish.

>Your Finding was blinded by editing:
> Dom certainly wasn't the
>only one to regret Chris'
>decision and he's probably has
>a bigger coalition than the
>tribe's original leader. Anyway,
>the swap will probably separate
>those two.


The Commission is able to differentiate between personal regret vs. PUBLIC calling out. It is not disclosing Dom was the only one who may have regretted Chris’s decision; Dom was the only one to individually raise his hand and publicly criticize his decision in front of everyone.


>Finding incomplete: There was also
>Morgan who ducked behind everyone
>else so that Chris wouldn't
>pick her to do the
>puzzle. That move wasn't
>bad at all because it
>led to Jacob giving her
>the legacy advantage. And
>for the very athletic James,
>showing a weakness is actually
>great for his future.
>He won't appear so threatening.
> So clearly worse was
>Angela's admission. She simply
>could have volunteered to sit
>out without revealing a weakness,
>which, for a woman could
>be fatal.


Jacob’s hormones influenced his decision to will the Legacy to an attractive female on the other tribe. The same hormones responsible for spilling the beans on Stephanie’s boobies.

As of the here and now present time (knowing James did not end up paying the ultimate price at TC for his IC failure; ) yes, damage control may be easier for James going forward for the reason you stated.



>What kind of finding is this?
> Michael can simply say
>that he doesn't drink.
>Problem solved.


Sure, Michael would probably answer in the manner you stated if alcohol should factor into the equation. Yet, the possibility of a RC with alcohol was more of a BTW afterthought to the actual finding. The REAL finding #6 was the Commission’s result that Michael proactively initiated a lie when he didn’t have to.

>Yes, Survivor was much better when
>Burnett was on hand and
>keeping a tight fist on
>things. With Probst, it's
>become a farce, a game
>show.


YES, we agree on something here—bring back the “old school” TC format.

>Well we know that there was
>one, so I say finding
>another wouldn't be that hard.
> After all, Donathan never
>said he was celibate just
>that he was more out
>than others.


OK, Westman was the one honest castaway with integrity—but there’s never been another like him, so it would be a Herculean task to find such a player again which is why that accurate metaphor was made.

The Commission could give a rat’s behind about any celibacy or the sexual activity of any DAW. During Donathan’s attempt to create a bond with Laurel, he stated he was unattached because he is not able to find a man of his kind in Eastern Kentucky.

Last season Ryan got a lot of mileage as a skinny, awkward nerd unable to find a relationship. The Commission is making this comparison in its finding to suggest Donathan using this similar status for mileage as well.


>It's lame and a huge waste
>of time but probably not
>as bad as the Final
>3 or the F4 Fire
>Challenge.


Every twist (past, present, future) may affect each castaway in a different manner. For some, it will be an opportunity. For the opportunity-seekers, I’m not as critical if it still requires putting your best foot forward, capitalizing on the opportunity, and earning the victory/advantage. Jacob failed to capitalize on his opportunity; Ben successfully capitalized on his. Conversely, when your “best foot forward” at F4 is delegated to sticking your hand in a bag and hoping not to pick the wrong rock, that’s pretty much as bad as it gets.

>Episode 2 ended on Day 6.
> Ever since Africa, the
>less gullible viewers have seen
>every tribal swap as a
>way for production to rearrange
>the game to their liking,
>to save a sinking ship,
>to lend a helping hand
>and to eliminate a less
>likable player.


Correct, although the season Premier is just one evening, it does constitute as a double episode, so it’s Day Seven for the tribal switch. Valid correction, but still sooner than normal.

The tribal switch originated in Africa (S3) to help prevent/minimize any potential Pagonging.

Regardless how the tribal switch pans out, you’ll “Nostradamus” some explanation why it’s “rigged.” If Stephanie and Morgan end up selecting the same color buff, you’ll cry foul. If they end up on different tribes but both make the merge, you’ll no doubt backpedal some spin why Production purposely waited until after the switch to “rig” it so both make the merge for Steph to befriend Morgan and be willed the Legacy.

If Dom and Chris end up on different tribes, you’ll say it’s Production’s way to defuse the confrontation and allow both players to advance. If they pick the same buff, it was “rigged” to continue the power struggle because it makes for better entertainment “game show” TV...

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6. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
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>For the record, the Aruba Commission
>formed less than five months
>ago...

That's no excuse: Ignoring history can only lead to repeated mistakes. You do that often...

Anyway, no one was hoity-toity enough to declare themselves commissioner but plenty laughed at StephEnie and even last season our King of Fishes pointed to DevOn.

>Visual evidence you say?! Nothing wrong
>with the Commission’s “visual” of
>the plastic boobies the female
>castaways had no reservations flashing.

I've looked at the episodes again and I must say that only Stephanie has had a boob job. Everyone else looks natural even Desirée even if they kept spilling out of her bra.

>Well of course Stephanie got Jacob
>to tell her. LMAO. Nothing
>that a little (or a
>lot) of cleavage couldn’t accomplish.

"Of course" you say now but you missed it in your original post. It's a huge development.


>The Commission is able to differentiate
>between personal regret vs. PUBLIC
>calling out. It is
>not disclosing Dom was the
>only one who may have
>regretted Chris’s decision; Dom was
>the only one to individually
>raise his hand and publicly
>criticize his decision in front
>of everyone.

Well, if you want to call your interventions "Findings" you'd need to Find something interesting. Yes, only Dom raised his hand and if he was the only one who thought Chris made a bad decision, he would be in trouble but if the silent majority of the tribe agreed with Dom like MY analysis suggests then Dom is safe and Chris is in trouble.


>Jacob’s hormones influenced his decision to
>will the Legacy to an
>attractive female on the other
>tribe. The same hormones responsible
>for spilling the beans on
>Stephanie’s boobies.

Well, if Jacob was looking for an attractive woman on the other tribe then Chelsea would have the Legacy Advantage right now. I think it was Morgan's weakness that tipped the scales.

>As of the here and now
>present time (knowing James did
>not end up paying the
>ultimate price at TC for
>his IC failure; ) yes,
>damage control may be easier
>for James going forward for
>the reason you stated.

I'm glad you can see that there are ways for the strong to avoid becoming targets.


>Sure, Michael would probably answer in
>the manner you stated if
>alcohol should factor into the
>equation. Yet, the possibility of
>a RC with alcohol was
>more of a BTW afterthought
>to the actual finding. The
>REAL finding #6 was the
>Commission’s result that Michael proactively
>initiated a lie when he
>didn’t have to.

In his case, it is an extremely sound tactic. No Findings here, just logical game play.

>YES, we agree on something here—bring
>back the “old school” TC
>format.

Clap-clap-clap.

>OK, Westman was the one honest
>castaway with integrity—but there’s never
>been another like him,

Westman flat out lied to Caryn and he also tried to get Gregg to throw the final immunity challenge to boot Coby. He also kept saying to everyone that he "DID NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT 9/11 or that his daughter was deaf in such a manner that everyone realized it was his way of reminding them that he was there on 9/11 and that he had a deaf daughter. Integrity? Only in editing. He hustled just like any good Survivor must(except Yul).

>The Commission could give a rat’s
>behind about any celibacy or
>the sexual activity of any
>DAW. During Donathan’s attempt to
>create a bond with Laurel,
>he stated he was unattached
>because he is not able
>to find a man of
>his kind in Eastern Kentucky.
>Last season Ryan got a lot
>of mileage as a skinny,
>awkward nerd unable to find
>a relationship. The Commission is
>making this comparison in its
>finding to suggest Donathan using
>this similar status for mileage
>as well.

If the Commission truly wanted to enquire in anomalies spotted dutring the broadcast, I'd suggest it takes a second look at Donathan during the 2nd Immunity Challenge. The story wants us to believe that he was so afraid of going under water that he let James hang for a long time. Even when his whole tribe and Probst BEGGED him to give it a try, he said he couldn't. But suddenly (and here look at the video once more) he gets up and goes in the water. When someone is afraid of going under water, they do one of 3 things: Either they inch their way to the ledge and SLOWLY descend into the water, or they jump in feet first, or they do a horrible belly flop.

What did Donathan do? A PERFECT dive! Hands above his head, he sprung from his knees and ankles, then bent at the waist all leading to a RIP ENTRY!!!!

No, the commission should realize that Donathan is good in the water and the whole story was designed to make us feel for the nerd. We are being served another bunch of crap but the commission is too blind to look into these matters.

>Every twist (past, present, future) may
>affect each castaway in a
>different manner. For some, it
>will be an opportunity. For
>the opportunity-seekers, I’m not as
>critical if it still requires
>putting your best foot forward,
>capitalizing on the opportunity, and
>earning the victory/advantage. Jacob failed
>to capitalize on his opportunity;
>Ben successfully capitalized on his.
>Conversely, when your “best foot
>forward” at F4 is delegated
>to sticking your hand in
>a bag and hoping not
>to pick the wrong rock,
>that’s pretty much as bad
>as it gets.

Again Paschal's best foot forward was to write "Neleh" on his parchment... Jacob was doomed either way. Ben was brought back from the dead. Not exactly equality.


>Regardless how the tribal switch pans
>out, you’ll “Nostradamus” some explanation
>why it’s “rigged.” If Stephanie
>and Morgan end up selecting
>the same color buff, you’ll
>cry foul. If they end
>up on different tribes but
>both make the merge, you’ll
>no doubt backpedal some spin
>why Production purposely waited until
>after the switch to “rig”
>it so both make the
>merge for Steph to befriend
>Morgan and be willed the
>Legacy.

No, I will be absolutely clear: I believe a swap will put Morgan and Stephanie together before the merger. That's what happened with Chrissy and Ryan and I'm sure they'll want their twist to come into action. If they are not on the same tribe before the merger AND if Stephanie doesn't get the advantage from Morgan, then I am wrong.

>If Dom and Chris end up
>on different tribes, you’ll say
>it’s Production’s way to defuse
>the confrontation and allow both
>players to advance. If they
>pick the same buff, it
>was “rigged” to continue the
>power struggle because it makes
>for better entertainment “game show”
>TV...

This one, I'm not sure how it will pan out so I'm making only ONE prediction based on the editing: Dom will outlast Chris.

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11. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
Fifty-five years after the Warren Commission disclosed its findings, theorists STILL criticize its efforts without any solid foundation. It is not surprising the Aruba Commission finds itself in similar company. Conspiracy theorists generally overvalue particular items and ignore others to fit their own agendas and beliefs. The Aruba Commission will remain undaunted by those critics who are enticed but theories they fall in love with while scoffing at the very body established to provide an excellent safeguard against over-commitment to conspiracy projections.

Any historical references prior to five months ago were not disclosed by the Commission prior to October 2017 BECAUSE THE COMMISSION WAS NOT FORMED BEFORE THEN as opposed to the absurd claim of ignoring history. That factual concept should not be all that difficult to wrap one’s mind around...unless of course... that same mind is too busy putting out new “hoity-toity” criticisms.

The Commission’s original post states Jacob “folded like a cheap suit” to spill the beans to Stephanie and her plastic boobies. It was not missed.

The Commission will not base its findings on “suggested analysis” but on what visibly occurred.

So, you declare Chelsea is more attractive than Morgan and if you were Jacob then Chelsea would have gotten the Legacy Advantage instead. So noted...but you are NOT Jacob. Just because you think Chelsea is more attractive it does not mean others (Jacob included) may feel the same.

When did the Commission ever put “strong” and “James” in the same sentence? Quite the contrary...he was cited for his weakness that cost his tribe the IC and a trip to TC. Only your spin would suggest otherwise.

Speaking of twisted suggestions, applying your PhD in Spinology to Westman is old hat already. Not to mention ridiculous and foolish, but always comical.

INITIATING a lie when it is not necessary is not a sound tactic. How sad that the culture of the game has evolved to where castaways feel the need to lie...just to lie. And even more sad some regard it as so “logical” they are unable to acknowledge integrity by fabricating and spinning falsities to suggest otherwise. VERY sad.

Only a diehard Conspiracy Theorist would cheapen such a positive feel-good moment when man can conquer fear. In its opening paragraph, the Commission is keenly aware how critics will conveniently pick and choose when and where to “bury Paul.” So now Donathan becomes the newest inhabitant in the Conspiracy Graveyard.

Again, being forced to turn on your adopted daughter in the game and closest ally is anything BUT a “best foot forward.” The rest of the cast opting for a “dead” sleep contributed to giving Ben new “life.” Say it again, Desi!

The Commission will not engage in any point/counterpoint prediction discussion with anyone who lurks among the Spoilers.

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13. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
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I will start with this offensive remark: "The Commission will not engage in any point/counterpoint prediction discussion with anyone who lurks among the Spoilers."

Yes, I also go to the Spoiler thread but there are no source spoilers for this season. So all we have to work with are the promos left by SeeBS itself. Like we know where a few castaways end up after the swap but that's about it. (Nothing a bout Steph, Morgan or Dom) Ever since I've come to RTVW, I've respected the sanctity of the Fanatic and Basher board. Moderators demanded that we do not post spoilers here so, even if moderators aren't around anymore, I continue respecting that. If you do not believe me, ask Kingfish who also goes to Spoiler and who can attest to what I've just written.

My predictions about Dom and Stephanie are only speculation based on what you and I have both seen up to now.

The fact that the commission debuted 5 months ago is no excuse for ignoring prior facts. Isn't it precisely the job of a commission to look into prior events?!


Jacob could certainly feel that Morgan is more attractive than Chelsea but if you want to go by what visibly occurred then you have to admit he never said anything about Morgan being attractive. His reasoning was: "She has spunk, she has energy..." and he thougth she would make the merge so they could be allies. Not a word about Morgan being cute.

James showed weakness in one challenge but everyone saw James as a strong guy. Is the commision blind to his muscles? Showing weakness will take the target off of his back.

Tom certainly initiated a lie: To get Caryn to vote against Gregg, he told her she,d be safe afterwards but he voted her out at the very next TC.

Once more about Ben: He had played HIS LAST IDOL when he walked into the F4 TC. HE HIMSELF said his game was over. AT FINAL 4 ONLY the TWIST saved him. His idols didn't matter to Devon, Ryan and Chrissy because they Outlasted them all. Only Laurel, Ashley and Mike needed to prevent Mike from getting his hands on idols. Desi should have addressed her reproach to them instead of the F3. By voting "Mike" at F5 Devon protected himself better than if he had followed Ben 24 hours a day.

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20. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
If you and Kingfish contend no “source spoilers” exist on the Spoiler Board in THIS Fourm, so be it. One does not have to dwell among the spoilers to know scores of OTHER spoiler sites exist on the internet...not just the one here in Reality TV World. Simply put, NO WAY this spoiler forum on this site is the ONLY spoiler site spoiler dwellers access...if they don’t care about knowing events before the Wednesday telecasts.

If game aficionados wish to “predict” until their hearts are content in the Spoiler Forum, or the Games Forum, or the Fantasy Island (whatever the heck that is) Forum, then knock yourselves out. This Commission was formed in the Bashers Forum to...well...BASH and will stand by its decision NOT to engage nor pander with “predicters” who might bring their anticipated findings over to the Basher Forum.

The Commission continually cites prior facts in its findings. If the Commission was to cite every applicable fact from the past 35 seasons in all its findings, you’d be reading a post with hundreds of thousands of words! Consequently, any criticism of “ignoring facts” is obnoxious and asinine.

Jacob also did not specifically state in words that he was hypnotized by Stephanie’s plastic boobies, but more times than not, actions speak louder than words.

Players will ensure safety to others so long as they reciprocate the favor. If the other players decide to turn on the very one who is ensuring their safety, then an appropriate reaction is in order. Caryn clearly was targeting Tom to get booted before the F3. She initiated; Tom reacted. Even Ian was going to turn on Tom at F4. Ian initiated; Tom reacted. Only your silly spins could twist those appropriate reactions to Tom initiating lies.

Ben does not even make it to the F4 or F5 and would not have participated in the twist had Devon, Chrissy, Ryan (and yes, Mike and Ashley also) not been SOOOO certain no more HIIs existed and much to their chagrin went into a comfort “sleeping” mode. His idols ABSOLUTELY mattered in allowing him to advance to the F4. Although Desi made her accurate and appropriate statement at the F3 TC, the jury was also present, so her suitable criticism went beyond just Chrissy, Ryan, and Devon.

OK, over and out until after tonight’s episode and a new post invites another spirited thread.

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21. "RE: "Be The Survivor" S36 Ep01: "Can You Find Reverse?""
Not sure why I was included in the "No sourced spoilers" contention. Unless you really mistake the basic pseudo premise of Rumor Mills' spoilers, which are not and never have been real spoilers, in spite of his and his predecessor's claims to the contrary.
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7. "Nasty Bathrooms is out, Rumor Mills is in."
Well, here we are again for season umpteen thousand. Or something. It really does seem that way for those of us who have endured the charade of self-important Hantz or Varner or Penner wanna-bes, and really, who would really want to be them except supremely self-loathing masochists. So far there is no actual proof of their pedophilia, but there is no proof that there isn’t any, and that’s proof enough. Those sorry excuses for human slime probably boink chickens too. There is a rumor that their manhoods are so tiny that they have to put in a rooster bottom to get results. But PETA hasn’t complained because no chicken was harmed. The chickens never noticed the intrusions.

But enough about them and their probable predilections, let’s focus on the hero from last season, Nasty Bathrooms, whose commentary and spot on observations saved a truly abysmal season for viewers from the dull repetitious braying of a certain Laurel hater, and the childish antics of the entire cast of so called survivors who wouldn’t last a day in a real survival situation without having a nervous breakdown. Nasty survived the slings and arrows of slander, libel and outright lies to emerge as the premier survivor observer and supplier of spoilers. To him was awarded an Oscar, a Tony, and an Emmy Lou. In an unprecedented example of cooperation and mutual admiration the Nobel and Pulitzer committees combined to award him the Most Very Nobel Pulitzer for greatness. The Queen of England, not to be outdone, tried to hook him up with his choice of princesses. I understand that he's giving each of them a tryout.

And Nasty wanted me to pass on a note of gratefulness to the Commission for being there. They apparently are fixated on silicone implants, but that’s alright, who isn’t? One might point out that of all the places that women (or men) use implants, the breasts are by far mine and just about anyone else with a discerning eye's favorite place. I point to the duck lips that grossed the world out in the latest season of BB by her bitchiness Brandy Glanville.

Ok, Ok, all of you, you can sit down now, he does deserve that extended standing ovation and all the oles you shouted, but at some point, we got to get this show on the road.

Please, please, this auditorium is only rented for a day. Ok, just one more hour of clapping.

Thank you. If I happen to be passing by a certain brothel on a certain island (not in Fiji), I will tell him how much you love and respect him, and how much you hate his doubters, of which there are few.

With all the money and swag the Nasty received for his supremeness, he decided to retire someplace where the Federales can’t find him. I can’t say where, but it’s certainly not in a brothel on a certain Fiji island. So he says to not bother looking for him there.

Meantime, he has entrusted to me, Rumor Mills, , with the responsibility of finding and presenting to you the most accurate and up to date Spoilers, and he has asked (very nicely, they are very sensitive) his super squad of Sleuthy Spy Girl Graduates of the Really Really Really Raunchy College of Motor Scooter Maintenance and Getting Buzzed for Rides on the Freeway, to help me out. He told me about some of the ways they induce horny cameramen to spill their guts, and I'm looking forward learning more from them.

I’m new to this, but I have the manual, so here goes. Be kind.

Chickin’ Pluckin’ Spoiler #1: By now, after umpteen whatever seasons of Survivor, with every season (almost) requiring swimming skills, the world-wide population knows that to compete on Survivor you have to know how to swim. Or at least to be able to duck your head under water. If the Fiji Gods were fair, James and what’s her name (Who? Angela? Ok, thanks Mr. Commissioner) Angela would be the first two booted out. Fortunately for them those gods must hate big mouthed musicians and pushy Latinas more. Or maybe, and we must consider this, maybe there are no Gods in Fiji.

Chickin’ Pluckin’ Spoiler #2: One more item for so called Survivor super fans to consider: How often has a fake idol actually fooled anyone? One can understand the temptation to put one over on the others with this ploy, but it is almost always doomed to failure, so stop it already. You aren’t that smart. You are dumb. And did you consider what would happen if you used it to fake the tribe out, and didn't get booted? That they might be royally pissed? The big picture, people.

Chickin’ Pluckin’ Spoiler #3: So it’s Ghost Island this season. Man, I was having nightmares about what that might mean. Worst case - all the contestants would be from the Hantz clan (shiver). Or a new twist where Hidden Idols were hanging from every palm tree (we aren't far from this already), and whoever had the fewest of them at Tribal would be evicted. Another would be if some of the Immunity challenges would have all the survivors in an MMA cage fight (actually, I might like that one). Another would be having them swim thru chummed waters with a steak tied around their necks, all at the same time. Those sharks that are featured in the animal shots are white tipped reef sharks. And they bite. Oceanographers call them the most prolific and dangerous of all sharks. That would be fun, and maybe a mercifully short season.

Chickin’ Pluckin’ Spoiler #4: Domenick, the truth teller, aka Survivor Sweet Meat. Oh boy. No misunderstanding about why the editors left that quote in. BTW, this my candidate for this season’s Varner.

Chickin’ Pluckin’ Spoiler #5: Just where did Jacob get replacement sneakers? He didn’t strike me as being capable of mugging a cameraman.

Chickin’ Pluckin’ Spoiler #6: Your super spoiler is the first to reveal Martin Shkreli Witness Protection Identity.


Rumor Mills with the latest spoilers guaranteed to be pretty much true (ish).
(This will have to do until the Tribster returns).

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Hearing that Nasty has retired is the best news I've heard since the beginning of this season. It's funny though that he was still so defensive about a certain fishmonger. After all, she was dull, fat and finished in 7th place so why even bother defending her? There have been thousands of better looking, better playing castaways.

Now, here comes a rookie trying to spoil this season... Jeeez! We'll have to educate this amateur and there will be so much to teach that I better get on it immediately.

Non-Spoiler #1: Burnett isn't even interested anymore so he's not in Fiji so it's not a question mark: There ARE no Gods in Fiji only Ghosts. Like the Ghost of a show that used to be good.

Non-Spoiler #2: You ask: "How often has a fake idol actually fooled anyone?" Shouldn't you have made your homework before starting this job. Jaime in China, Jason in Micronesia, Randy in Gabon and Jay on Fiji S33 have all been fooled by fake idols. Some have also been fooled by expired idols...

Non-Spoiler #3: If you call yourself a spoiler shouldn't you have the answers instead of asking the questions?! That being said, having every castaway bringing an idol to TC might very well happen. The shark idea isn't bad either but that would make for an awesome episode. We've had 2 dud episodes up to now and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Non-Spoiler #4: I'll conter this with a real Spoiler of my own: Domenick is one of my top contenders for "Designated Survivor".

Non-Spoiler #5: Listen man! As soon as he lost his sneakers, Jacob said: "I lost ONE of my pair of shoes." They may have minimal rations but they all got a change of clothes. I wonder why they didn't give them bathing suits but that's another story.

Non-Spoiler #6: A true spoiler would have identified Donathan as Production new favorite. Another season will be narrated by a nerd. It actually makes me miss Penner, one of the best narrators we've had.


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"Burnett isn't even interested anymore so he's not in Fiji so it's not a question mark:"

Try to use legible English. Write in whole sentences that make sense.

And you still hold that grudge against someone you never met who isn't even aware of your existence, and who only tries to eke out an existence performing back breaking labor to support her children as a single parent. Just because she doesn't meet your standard for pretty. Is that is it? Is that what you're fuming about?

And denigrating her by calling her a fishmonger, a term used by educated people as a masculine reference to a fish seller, not a one who catches fish. It being primarily a British term, I would think that a Quebecer would know the difference. Two mistakes in one? Or two insults in one?

So sad.

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Do you realize that internet grammar police are mostly considered obnoxious and stupid? Especially when you know I'm not English. But if you are going to police my grammar, I wouldn't expect you to write: "Is that is it? (sic!)

To clarify: "Burnett isn't interested anymore. He didn't even make the trip to Fiji. Therefore you don't have to ask: There are no Survivor Gods in Fiji.
Happy?

As for Laurel, I'm not holding a grudge. I couldn't care less about her. Like I wrote; her 7th place finish proved that I was right not to care about her. YOU on the other hand had to bring her up. That's what I called PATHETIC.

Funny that of all the remarks I made, the one about Laurel was the only thing that struck a chord with you. If you are in love with her, I apologize. I meant every word I wrote about her but I shouldn't have expressed them in front of someone so sensitive.

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15. "RE: Nasty Bathrooms is out, Rumor Mills is in."
I can accept criticism for a typo. That was a typo, and I should have caught it before posting. I appreciate your attention to detail and your editing assistance, and if you find other grammatical or typographical errors, please don't hesitate to point them out for me. (Note; that was a proper response, not like your accusations and "grammar police" attempts at personal insults. It would be so much nicer if you could just admit when you are factually wrong).

But it's not surprising that when it hits home, you deflect criticism from your own misuse of words, especially when the word in question is actually an English term. And in particular when that misuse is intended to insult and denigrate a single mom who has to perform manual labor to earn enough to feed her children, just because she's fat and doesn't fit your ideal female prettiness picture. How long would you past doing what she does? That's really the sad part, but it's like you don't have any mirrors in your house.

Somehow, you turn her exemplary effort to make it to day 33, nine tenths of the total time of the season. If that isn't enough to garner your respect (and obviously is isn't), she was the 5th jury member, getting further than half of the jury members that season, and and her overall finish of 7th is better than (roughly) two thirds of all those who have competed on survivor. Those metrics undeniably place her high in the annals of Survivor history. But, Ok, I get that you are so blinded by your hatred and distaste for a "fat" woman that you can ignore her very laudable result.

Admittedly, I am still scratching my head about her boneheaded play at her final TC, but that too will go down in Survivor history, and no doubt will be mentioned this season as a ghost of the past. There aren't that many who get into the boneheaded hall of Survivor shame, but that's ok, you don't care about those people either.

And yes, I am sensitive when anyone continually persists in displays of disrespect to anyone. We all deserve better treatment than you offer those with whom you disapprove. For goodness sakes, she's fat! For shame, right? Nobody should care about her.

Kudo's to you for having at least two languages, but Canada is a British Commonwealth, so you should be more careful with the usage of British terms than you apparently are. Even as a Quebecer you should have some respect for the Queen, right? Or is she too fat for your taste too?

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I wasn't factually wrong but grammatically wrong and with the clarification, I thought it was obvious I was admitting it.

And I'm sorry but when you wrote: "Try to use legible English. Write in whole sentences that make sense"... I found it VERY insulting. Here I am trying to communicate with you in your mother tongue so I don't appreciate the condescension.

As for Laurel, let me bring you back to Palau. You may not remember it as well as Aruba but, during S10, tons of posters laughed at Katie for being dumb and fat. The running joke was that, with all of Koror's rewards and Tom's provisions, Katie was the first Castaway to actually gain weight. While I could laugh along, I always thought the posters were going way overboard. From my point of view. Katie was funny and actually pretty good at the game. After all, both Ian and Tom were relying on her knowledge to prepare for upcoming events.

It's funny that, with Laurel, the tables are turned! What I don't understand is your rabid defense. I really don't care about Laurel because she was a very ordinary player and extremely boring but that's my opinion. You should know you can't change it so why don't you simply move on?

As for "Kudo's to you for having at least two languages, but Canada is a British Commonwealth, so you should be more careful with the usage of British terms than you apparently are. Even as a Quebecer you should have some respect for the Queen, right? Or is she too fat for your taste too?"

You show incredible lack of Historical knowledge. For most Québécois, the Queen is at best a joke at worst, the symbol of an oppressor. The British conquered us and then did their best to assimilate us. Read up on Cajuns from New Orleans to give you an idea. When we proved too resilien tfor them and, like the US, strived for independence, English Canada did their best to keep us tied. So, NO, I have absolutely no respect for the relic that is the Queen. I actually could IGNORE the English Language but I choose to use it to communicate here and in real life.

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12. "RE: Nasty Bathrooms is out, Rumor Mills is in."
Point of note: It is CASTING who has always been fixated with plastic boobies. The Commission would be remiss to ignore what Production obviously regards as a staple for this show.

Commission’s Report on Spoiler #1: In recent seasons, swimming has taken a backseat to “damn friggin’ puzzles.” So, if production consistently casts bubbleheads probably incapable of changing a lightbulb...why not select a castaway who is a floating disaster in the water? Although your point is well-taken.

Commission’s Report on Spoiler #2: The question asked is “How often has a fake idol actually fooled anyone?” Although Michel seemed to relish in providing a few examples, this tactic has blown up in the schemer’s face more times than met with ultimate success. The most successful crafter of a fake HII would have to be Bob from Gabon. Not only did he emerge as season champion, the player he duped (Randy) actually voted for him in the end!

Commission’s Report on Spoiler #3: A HII could be hanging right over a castaway’s nose, but if they were sleeping they would lose out. You could be on to something with an IC shark challenge. Former champion Richard Hatch was bit in the arm by one. And another former champion Tom Westman killed one to provide shark meat for his tribe. Something to elaborate on…

Commission’s Report on Spoiler #4: You didn’t have to wait too long to determine why Domenick was the self-portrayed “truth-teller” in the opening scene. Later in the SAME PREMIER he lies through he teeth about his HII to Chris. But if he continues to find idols and advantages while the others are just dreaming about it in their sleep, we’ll be watching this “truthful liar” a bit longer.

Commission’s Report on Spoiler #5: Point to Michel on Jacob’s quote. Now if the Commission beat him to the punch and responded based on what was actually stated, it would have been criticized for its “blindness” by not theorizing Jacob was really reading from a “script.”

Commission’s Report on Spoiler #6: Super SUPER Spoiler—The season is “rigged” for Martin Shkreli aka Donathan to win the season so Prosecution can now ask 6.3 million (from the original request of 7.3 million) in criminal fortitude. That’s sure to score points with the Conspiracy Theorists.

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Nice. Some disagreement, but within the tolerance produced by what we can see as opposed to what really happens.

However, maybe I wasn't clear on one point vis a vis Spoiler #1. It was criticism of the candidates coming onto the show without learning to swim or any basic water skills (such as learning to duck your head below water. As a former Certified Red Cross Water Safety Instructor with years of experience teaching children - and believe me, children are really fun to teach - and adults to swim, ducking your head under water and blowing bubbles is just about the first lesson taught to toddlers), not the casting directors evaluating them on that basis. Given that the Casting director's job is to include a few putzes who might humiliate themselves, I guess they think that comedic relief is good for ratings. But, if you (the general you) are selected to participate, it should be incumbent on you to learn rudimentary water skills. That's in the top five of Survivor Prep rules. Admittedly, working the Jumble every day is there also.

I will admit though, that blaming the producers and the casting people isn't really off the mark either. They are evil scions of Satan, and are behind everything that is wrong with the world.

And I agree that Michel's laughable reply when he attempts to dispute the notion that fake idols have almost (note that qualification first used in Rumor's original post) never worked is a cavernous sink hole of unsustainable logic. I'm glad that I didn't have to be the first to point that out. Also, that being the conclusion of the final report of the very august Commission itself pretty well cements it as an all time conclusion for historical purposes.

I'm glad we all agree on the shark chum challenge. Maybe by Season 50? That shark Tom killed was also a white tipped reef shark, fortunately a small one. But even the small ones will try to take a bite sized chunk of flesh.


Rumor Mills with the latest spoilers guaranteed to be pretty much true (ish).
(This will have to do until the Tribster returns).

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18. "RE: Nasty Bathrooms is out, Rumor Mills is in."
Fake idols have worked at least 4 times. That's far from almost never...
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23. "RE: Nasty Bathrooms is out, Rumor Mills is in."
You have to eliminate the times it only partially worked, or fooled someone with no gain. Those were ultimately failures.
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17. "RE: Nasty Bathrooms is out, Rumor Mills is in."
>Point of note: It is CASTING
>who has always been fixated
>with plastic boobies. The Commission
>would be remiss to ignore
>what Production obviously regards as
>a staple for this show.

Please tell me who besides Stephanie, has had a boob job this season.

>Commission’s Report on Spoiler #1: In
>recent seasons, swimming has taken
>a backseat to “damn friggin’
>puzzles.” So, if production consistently
>casts bubbleheads probably incapable of
>changing a lightbulb...why not select
>a castaway who is a
>floating disaster in the water?
>Although your point is well-taken.

At least puzzles are gender neutral. Still, I would appreciate more endurance and survival based challenges. How long has it been since we've seen wrestling?


>Commission’s Report on Spoiler #2: The
>question asked is “How often
>has a fake idol actually
>fooled anyone?” Although Michel seemed
>to relish in providing a
>few examples, this tactic has
>blown up in the schemer’s
>face more times than met
>with ultimate success. The most
>successful crafter of a fake
>HII would have to be
>Bob from Gabon. Not only
>did he emerge as season
>champion, the player he duped
>(Randy) actually voted for him
>in the end
!

All I said is that fake idols have worked often enough.

>Commission’s Report on Spoiler #3: A
>HII could be hanging right
>over a castaway’s nose, but
>if they were sleeping they
>would lose out. You could
>be on to something with
>an IC shark challenge. Former
>champion Richard Hatch was bit
>in the arm by one.
>And another former champion Tom
>Westman killed one to provide
>shark meat for his tribe.
>Something to elaborate on…

Once more, you feel the need to bring Tom in the discussion. I'Ll let you know that Amanda, in Mocronesia, killed a MUCH larger shark than Tom.

>Commission’s Report on Spoiler #4: You
>didn’t have to wait too
>long to determine why Domenick
>was the self-portrayed “truth-teller” in
>the opening scene. Later in
>the SAME PREMIER he lies
>through he teeth about his
>HII to Chris. But if
>he continues to find idols
>and advantages while the others
>are just dreaming about it
>in their sleep, we’ll be
>watching this “truthful liar” a
>bit longer.

Lying is part of the game.

>Commission’s Report on Spoiler #5: Point
>to Michel on Jacob’s quote.
>Now if the Commission beat
>him to the punch and
>responded based on what was
>actually stated, it would have
>been criticized for its “blindness”
>by not theorizing Jacob was
>really reading from a “script.”

I criticize the commission only when it's wrong or being Hoity-toity. If you had simply reported Jacob's quote then I would have agreed with you.

>Commission’s Report on Spoiler #6: Super
>SUPER Spoiler—The season is “rigged”
>for Martin Shkreli aka Donathan
>to win the season so
>Prosecution can now ask 6.3
>million (from the original request
>of 7.3 million) in criminal
>fortitude. That’s sure to score
>points with the Conspiracy Theorists.


I thought you were convinced that nothing was rigged ever. Let's wait and see what happend to Donathan but if this zero continues to be portrayed as a hero then we'll have to open a real commission.

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19. "RE: Nasty Bathrooms is out, Rumor Mills is in."
>Please tell me who besides Stephanie,
>has had a boob job
>this season.


With all due respect, the Premier gave very little to any time to about half of the female cast. Further confirmation will come with more bathing suit scenes. But the one we are both certain of contributed greatly to one of the more potential game-changers this early in the season.


>At least puzzles are gender neutral.
> Still, I would appreciate
>more endurance and survival based
>challenges. How long has
>it been since we've seen
>wrestling?

True, puzzles are not gender-bias, but puzzle solving experts are born with a natural aptitude in that discipline. Conversely, couch potatoes are not born; they are pathetically self-created.

>All I said is that fake
>idols have worked often enough.


Yes, fake idols have worked; and yes, the Commission acknowledged that. Although interpretation of the word “often” is subjective. The Commission and Kingfish contend they have failed more “often” than been successful.


>Once more, you feel the need
>to bring Tom in the
>discussion. I'Ll let you
>know that Amanda, in Mocronesia,
>killed a MUCH larger shark
>than Tom.


The Commission felt the need to bring “former Champions” into the Shark discussion initiated by Kingfish. Richard Hatch is a former Champion. Tom Westman is a former Champion. Amanda is a former Loser.


>Lying is part of the game.


The Commission focused on Chris’s lie because of his self-portrayal as a “truth-teller.”


>I criticize the commission only when
>it's wrong or being Hoity-toity.
> If you had simply
>reported Jacob's quote then I
>would have agreed with you.


When the Commission got to reading Kingfish’s Spoiler #5 on Monday, it immediately noted that Jacob did state “ONE of his pairs” and was all set to respond in that matter. Only after reading your response below did I see you noted the same over the weekend.
The Commission was away this weekend attending a convention. Buzz Aldrin (the second man to walk on the moon during the Apollo 11 expedition) was the keynote speaker. He was asked the following question: “What was more satisfying, landing on the moon or punching that moon-landing conspiracy theorist right in the kisser?”
After a chuckle he answered, “Both created considerable, favorable support of my activities. However, one involved the relationship between an obnoxious human being, and the other a historic giant leap for mankind.”
A rousing standing ovation ensued.


>I thought you were convinced that
>nothing was rigged ever.
>Let's wait and see what
>happend to Donathan but if
>this zero continues to be
>portrayed as a hero then
>we'll have to open a
>real commission.


The reason “rigged” was in quotes was to emphasis sarcasm and get a charge out of any conspiracy theorists (without taking an aggressive approach of “punching one in the kisser.”) Mission accomplished!!

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22. "RE: Nasty Bathrooms is out, Rumor Mills is in."
Hey, the last I saw of his sneakers, they were washing out to sea. He then mysteriously shows up with a new pair.

That was a relevant observation to make, and an appropriate question to ask, regardless of whether it was both shoes or just one that resulted in his rookie mistake. Anyone who has been to the beach and shed shoes and/or clothing at the water line has also learned this lesson the hard way.

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24. "RE: Nasty Bathrooms is out, Rumor Mills is in."
You asked where has Jacob found replacement sneakers. He told us he had another pair in his luggage.
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