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Keyser 28 desperate attention whore postings
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11-15-02, 04:32 PM (EST)
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"Car breakdown rules"
I noticed in this weeks episode that when one of the cars broke down, they got a replacement car. Did the racers know this in advance? If so, did the teams that put unleaded in their diesel cars ask for the replacement cars thinking they had done no wrong? Did the camera people tell them, "Errrrr, sorry, but you screwed up, but we can't tell you why" Did the teams think to pester the camera people until they finally confessed, but it was edited out? Was this something that only the camera people knew such that when the diesels broke down and they kept their mouths shut but in this weeks episode, they said something. This also means that every camera crew was aware of the whole diesel thing.

Or is it possible the show just made up the rules on the fly? Or they simply didn't have any replacement cars available at 2 in the morning?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 The voice over said... IceCat 11-15-02 1
   RE: The voice over said... cmaybur 11-15-02 3
   RE: The voice over said... Keyser 11-16-02 5
 RE: Car breakdown rules Loree 11-15-02 2
   RE: Car breakdown rules racewatcher 11-16-02 4
       RE: Car breakdown rules cmaybur 11-16-02 6
           RE: Car breakdown rules racewatcher 11-16-02 7
               RE: Car breakdown rules Serendipity 11-18-02 10
                   RE: Car breakdown rules cmaybur 11-18-02 11
       RE: Car breakdown rules Esbea 11-18-02 9
 RE: Car breakdown rules Goober 11-16-02 8

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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings
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11-15-02, 05:55 PM (EST)
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1. "The voice over said..."
"... if the team suffers a car breakdown through no fault of their own..."

Putting the wrong fuel in was their fault... the radiator overheating was not.

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11-15-02, 08:02 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: The voice over said..."
There is no disputing that the diesel fuel problem was the teams' fault, but I don't think two of the teams (Michael/Kathy and Aaron/Arianne) knew what they'd done even after they had the SUVs towed in for service. As far as they were probably concerned, the vehicles had broken down through no fault of their own. I think the original question was whether the producers (or cameramen) informed them of their problem and thus refused to give them a replacement car.

BTW, in an interview I just read with Aaron/Arianne, they were assessed a time penalty because they were given a replacement car courtesy of the insurance company that rented the SUV to finish their drive to the ferry terminal in Spain, and their instructions were to drive the SUV. Interesting.


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Keyser 28 desperate attention whore postings
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11-16-02, 05:57 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: The voice over said..."
" "... if the team suffers a car breakdown through no fault of their own..."
Putting the wrong fuel in was their fault... the radiator overheating was not. "

That part is obvious. However, clearly the teams that put unleaded in their diesels were not aware that the cars were diesel, although Teri and Ian figured it out. Therefore, these teams did not know that it was in fact their fault.

Therefore, the question is whether or not they knew about this "get a new car if the car breaks down through no fault of your own rule", and if so, what happened when they asked for a new car? Did the camera people tell them on the spot, "Gee, you kinda did screw up, but we can't tell you why"?

My whole point is that this "rule" was probably made up on the spot.

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11-15-02, 07:29 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Car breakdown rules"
I'm guessing they had no idea that a replacement car could have been provided so they didn't ask in the "diesel" episode. But the show stepped in when it was obvious that Jon Vito & Jill had done nothing wrong. So they were just offered the new vehicle.
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11-16-02, 05:55 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Car breakdown rules"
LAST EDITED ON 11-16-02 AT 05:57 PM (EST)

I don't quite get the difference between the diesel thing and the overheating incident of JVJ.

In Dieselgate, the teams did not notice that they needed diesel fuel. When the radiator overheated, JVJ did not notice that their car was overheating. Same sin....

NOT PAYING ATTENTION!

As a matter of fact, I think more of us would have prevented overheating than would have thought about diesel fuel.

It seems to me that their breakdown was very much their fault, at least as much as A/A's.

And A/A were pretty much knocked out of the race once the penalty time was added on to a 5-6 hour ordeal waiting for help.

I think they make up the rules on the fly.

Not fair. But who said life is fair?

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11-16-02, 06:23 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Car breakdown rules"
How do you "prevent" overheating? By turning off the engine. That makes the car inoperable. Jack and Jill were entitled to a replacement car since an overheating radiator is not something they caused.


Chris

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11-16-02, 06:41 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Car breakdown rules"
Radiators don't overheat all of a sudden.....

Temperature gauges rise....
Needles move...
Lights go on on the dash.....

You pull off the road and add water.....

nuf said....I don't really care, just happened to notice the thread.....

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11-18-02, 01:27 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Car breakdown rules"
You also turn on the heater full blast which will take some of the heat pressure off the engine.

Uncomfortable in the desert, but would have given them time to find water.

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cmaybur 259 desperate attention whore postings
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11-18-02, 04:56 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Car breakdown rules"
I will have to remember what you wrote about the heater...

I had my car overheat over the summer while I was sitting in traffic on a major freeway, and I can assure you that I did nothing to cause it. This is why I got a little defensive when I read the original post blaming Jack and Jill for their mishap. All I could do was immediately pull over and wait for the engine to cool down. My radiator did not blow, though it probably would have had I done nothing. I was afraid the engine would blow. This is the first time this had ever happened to me.

After a half-hour of waiting for the engine to cool a little, I restarted it and hauled ass to the nearest gas station. I had just barely enough time before the warning lights came on again. After waiting for it to cool down again, I was able to add some more antifreeze, which was sufficient until I got it in for service the next day.

There is no reason why Jack and Jill should have had to deal with this problem. They were entitled to a replacement car.


Chris

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11-18-02, 10:09 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Car breakdown rules"
I think the difference here is that JVJ didnt CAUSE the breakdown, it was a mechanical problem that anyone who hired the SUV would have had. Because the other teams CAUSED their breakdowns by using the wrong fuel, they were not entitled to a replacement vehicle.

"I prefer the wicked to the foolish. The wicked sometimes rest."
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11-16-02, 09:36 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Car breakdown rules"
LAST EDITED ON 11-16-02 AT 09:39 PM (EST)


Keyser, I've wondered abt that myself-- unless they were informed by the production team, I doubt even Michael's and Kathy's film crew were aware of their petrol mistake when the vehicle broke down. I'm guessing that the racers were briefed on the "new" TAR regulations about car trouble right after the diesel-incidents.

To know for sure you might have to ask the racers themselves over at 2p where I'm not registered.

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