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"american idol no more"
watomasso 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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"american idol no more" |
this has to be the most controversial show ever. judges push votes for the big lipped high pitched squeeky voiced b-tch with a stage name(like her mother really called her fantasia). funny how all the ones with real talent got voted off. the 2 that should have been finalist are latoya and jennifer. only a fool with no ears would vote differently........
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kileh2 |
05-18-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
britneyfan04 |
05-18-04 |
2 |
RE: american idol no more |
Skyfel |
05-18-04 |
3 |
Comment |
AyaK |
05-19-04 |
42 |
RE: Comment |
PagongRatEater |
05-19-04 |
58 |
RE: american IDOL? |
PagongRatEater |
05-18-04 |
4 |
RE: american IDOL? |
idolthoughts |
05-18-04 |
6 |
RE: american IDOL? |
shedevil |
05-19-04 |
8 |
RE: singing, dancing, personality |
AsianOK |
05-19-04 |
16 |
RE: singing, dancing, personality |
shedevil |
05-19-04 |
17 |
RE: singing, dancing, personality |
idlegossip |
05-19-04 |
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RE: singing, dancing, personality |
shedevil |
05-19-04 |
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RE: singing, dancing, personality |
Homer_2323 |
07-07-04 |
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RE: singing, dancing, personality |
true |
05-20-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
arg2 |
05-18-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
shedevil |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
PagongRatEater |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
shedevil |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
dirtysouth |
05-19-04 |
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PagongRatEater |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
dirtysouth |
05-19-04 |
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to: PagongRatEater |
shedevil |
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RE: to: PagongRatEater |
PagongRatEater |
05-19-04 |
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RE: to: PagongRatEater |
Breezy |
05-19-04 |
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RE: to: PagongRatEater |
shedevil |
05-19-04 |
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RE: to: PagongRatEater |
Sbez |
05-19-04 |
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RE: to: PagongRatEater |
Viewer19 |
05-19-04 |
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shedevil |
05-20-04 |
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PagongRatEater |
05-20-04 |
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RE: to: PagongRatEater |
callalilly3000 |
05-20-04 |
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RE: to: PagongRatEater |
countrygal |
07-17-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
Paradise Hotel Lover |
12-09-04 |
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not country.... |
anotherkim |
05-19-04 |
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mistofleas |
05-19-04 |
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pheeann |
05-19-04 |
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mistofleas |
05-20-04 |
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Viewer19 |
05-19-04 |
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05-20-04 |
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mistofleas |
05-20-04 |
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mistofleas |
05-20-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
uberspoon |
05-20-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
leogirl_21 |
05-20-04 |
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wyndstorm2451 |
07-08-04 |
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Fantasia Isnt Gangsta |
Homer_2323 |
07-08-04 |
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RE: american IDOL? |
GinaVendetti |
07-29-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
ejm92 |
05-18-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
seahorse |
05-19-04 |
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managerr |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
shedevil |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
Karennz |
05-19-04 |
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whew! |
Breezy |
05-19-04 |
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RE: whew! |
greenmonstah |
05-19-04 |
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yeah? |
Breezy |
05-19-04 |
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RE: yeah? |
greenmonstah |
05-19-04 |
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RE: yeah? |
Breezy |
05-19-04 |
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RE: yeah? |
nailbone |
05-19-04 |
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pandorella |
05-19-04 |
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PagongRatEater |
05-19-04 |
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JOSHIDOL |
05-19-04 |
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bystander |
05-19-04 |
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RE: whew! |
idlegossip |
05-19-04 |
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shedevil |
05-19-04 |
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I agree |
dirtysouth |
05-20-04 |
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RE: whew! |
okaychatt |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
seahorse |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
cheri26158 |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
shedevil |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
pandorella |
05-19-04 |
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I've heard |
mrc |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
JOSHIDOL |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
shedevil |
05-19-04 |
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AsianOK |
05-19-04 |
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greenmonstah |
05-19-04 |
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pmspml5 |
05-19-04 |
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grit |
05-19-04 |
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Wow....Perfect? |
wildchickenhunter |
05-19-04 |
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RE: Wow....Perfect? |
grit |
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wildchickenhunter |
05-19-04 |
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RE: Wow....Perfect? |
grit |
05-19-04 |
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Bebo |
05-19-04 |
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RE: Wow....Perfect? |
GrendelsMom |
05-19-04 |
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rjrabbit |
05-19-04 |
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Past-perfect |
zombiebaby |
05-19-04 |
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RE: Past-perfect |
grit |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
minkey |
05-19-04 |
37 |
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greenmonstah |
05-19-04 |
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rjrabbit |
05-19-04 |
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zombiebaby |
05-19-04 |
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grit |
05-20-04 |
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minkey |
05-20-04 |
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grit |
05-20-04 |
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rjrabbit |
05-20-04 |
110 |
RE: american idol no more |
shedevil |
05-20-04 |
112 |
RE: american idol no more |
pandorella |
05-19-04 |
34 |
I can smell it from here |
zombiebaby |
05-19-04 |
43 |
RE: I can smell it from here |
pandorella |
05-20-04 |
117 |
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greenmonstah |
05-19-04 |
64 |
RE: american idol no more |
zombiebaby |
05-19-04 |
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cheri26158 |
05-20-04 |
113 |
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PagongRatEater |
05-19-04 |
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Ahtumbreez |
05-19-04 |
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kileh2 |
05-19-04 |
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zombiebaby |
05-19-04 |
40 |
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miss lady diva |
05-19-04 |
51 |
RE: american idol no more |
calamityc |
05-19-04 |
56 |
RE: american idol no more |
idlegossip |
05-19-04 |
73 |
RE: american idol no more |
true |
05-20-04 |
104 |
RE: american idol no more |
bob_chester |
05-19-04 |
57 |
RE: american idol no more |
idlegossip |
05-19-04 |
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RE: american idol no more |
Joyful |
05-20-04 |
109 |
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JOSHIDOL |
05-19-04 |
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shedevil |
05-19-04 |
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JOSHIDOL |
05-19-04 |
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stormysatan |
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hunniebunns |
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shedevil |
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SunDevilScott |
05-19-04 |
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cheri26158 |
05-19-04 |
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dirtysouth |
05-20-04 |
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mistofleas |
05-20-04 |
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JOSHIDOL |
05-20-04 |
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cheri26158 |
05-20-04 |
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shanana banana |
05-20-04 |
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dangerkitty |
05-20-04 |
118 |
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AsianOK |
05-20-04 |
119 |
RE: jasmine no more |
AsianOK |
05-20-04 |
120 |
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shedevil |
05-20-04 |
121 |
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seahorse |
05-21-04 |
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Pimpin247 |
07-08-04 |
127 |
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Bebo |
09-21-04 |
133 |
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HappyDays |
12-19-04 |
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PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-18-04, 10:08 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: american IDOL?" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-18-04 AT 10:24 PM (EST)Fantasia just rubs me the wrong way. I cannot stand her gangsta personality, her total lack of humility (yes she HAS improved), her lack of undergarments and her cartoon voice. Is she the best singer in this very weak competition? Probably. But is she the American Idol? Not to me. Personally, I wouldn't be happy if my kids had a poster of her on the wall. No offense, but I simply don't like her for a whole multitude of reasons. That being said, please do not let Jasmine into the final America.
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idolthoughts 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-18-04, 11:29 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: american IDOL?" |
I like Jasmine and it is who you think would make the best American Idol. Take a look around at those who are great idols now and in the past. Only a handful are great singers. With the right songs and time to rehearse and record (not just a couple of days) Jasmine would be a gorgeous American Idol. I don't like Fantasia's attitude and Di is unquestionably great but Jasmine is the one I'd like to see take the crown. Mike
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AsianOK 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-19-04, 04:38 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: singing, dancing, personality" |
don't judge by the look or personality alone. jasmine is cute, isn't she & she even has a sweet personality. though i'm purely asian, i didn't see anything so good about that asian looking girl's overall performance. she wasn't consistent. sometimes ok, sometimes not ok. she could sing beautifully most of the time but out of tune.diana was most of the time consistent & her voice was all the time powerful. the dancing thing was't that great but her voice made up the deficiency & i just admire her & i want to see her win. fantasia's voice is unique but i sometimes think that her voice doesn't make a song sound good. she can sing for a comedy movie or a cartoon series. her personality, oh dear, i'd give her 2 out of 10, fail!! la toya was better but too sad to see her go this early. let's vote for a TRUE IDOL who sings & dances well besides a great personality.
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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-19-04, 04:55 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: singing, dancing, personality" |
let's vote for a TRUE IDOL who sings & dances well besides a great personality. If I was going to vote on that (I'm not voting anymore) then it would be Fantasia. I'm going to break it down. Fantasia: sings great, dances pretty good, great personality Diana: sings pretty good, can't dance to save her life, sugary personality Jasmine: sings bad, dances okay, seems to have a sweet personality but comes off as fake to me
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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-19-04, 03:38 PM (EST)
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75. "RE: to: PagongRatEater " |
I'm not going to say you're wrong because we are all allowed to have our own opinions, but that's not the what I've always understood "gangsta" to mean. It's usually used in reference to gangs, violence, drugs, criminal activity and stuff like that. I don't think being an unmarried mother has anything to do with it, would you call a white unwed mother gangsta? I've never heard that term used in that way. I also don't see her as angry either, she seems pretty happy to me most of the time. I don't think you're being racist either. I also don't see her as a "thug". When Gangsta is used to describe rap here's what it means:Main Entry: gang·sta rap Pronunciation: 'ga-st&- Function: noun Date: 1991 : rap music with lyrics explicitly relating to urban gangs, violence, drug use, and the degradation of women I would imagine that using the term Gangsta to define a person would have a similiar meaning and I don't think it fits Fantasia.
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Sbez 36 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-19-04, 04:26 PM (EST)
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78. "RE: to: PagongRatEater " |
I think that Fantasia has been given a bad rap about her attitude because she joked with the judges when they gave her bad remarks a few times. Some people are way over sensitive, I think she has great character and a star personality, because she jokes with the judges and some people don't have a sense of humor does not make her gangsta or even close. While I will agree that I don't find the tone of her voice that appealing I love her ability to feel so comfortable on the stage and have a good time. Jasmine can't get through one song without going flat, she has a beautiful tone to her voice but needs a lot of work on pitch and keeping in tune before she should be deemed an American Idol. Diana is a powerhouse but at 16 needs just a little refinement and a couple years to get rid of the bubblegum act and she will be great. My vote is for fantasia to win.
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Viewer19 58 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-19-04, 09:22 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: to: PagongRatEater " |
LAST EDITED ON 05-19-04 AT 09:23 PM (EST)If Fantasia has a bad attitude and is all that, what of Simon's attitude? I have seen Simon disrespect people and say things on national television about a person that two girls would be embarassed to utter in the confines of a bathroom. Paula Abdul has been seriously compensating for Simon this season. There is no need for him to demean people like he does in the context of the show. By some people's definition, one could call Simon a gansta.
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Paradise Hotel Lover 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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12-09-04, 01:06 PM (EST)
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134. "RE: american IDOL?" |
PagongRatEater- when you look at fantasia you think about the streets, well when you were looking at her singing in the baptist church what did you think? I mean i dont think its possible for you to think of the streets when you here her sing in a church but if that is the case than i hate to hear what you think of when you look at Mother Teresa or when you look at photos of our blessed mother Mary Fantasia you are a great singer and dont pay attention to all of these people who are extremely jealous of you and what you have accomplished. God looks at you and he does not see the street he sees someone who is responsible for singing his prayers and sending his message that you can do anything you want if you try... God Bless You
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pheeann 101 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-19-04, 05:45 PM (EST)
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80. "RE: not country...." |
I admit I didn't watch last night. But I am reading the board just to see what people have to say. Mistofleas, your post made my day. You funny.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-20-04, 11:27 AM (EST)
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103. "RE: not country...." |
'round these parts we'd call that trashy and/or low class;I agree with Kim here. I don't think she sounds country at all, more of a gospel on helium quality to her voice. Speaking of trashy, I swear, when Fantasia was singing her second song (the one where she pranced through the audience) I thought she was going to give Clive a lap dance. Ewwwwww! This competition is not about who's singing in tune.--Simon Cowell
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wyndstorm2451 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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07-08-04, 11:17 AM (EST)
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126. "RE: american IDOL?" |
THERE IS NOTHING GANGSTA ABOUT TASIA STOP PUTTING TOO MUCH SUGAR IN YOUR 8ATERAID. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW REAL TALENT IF IT KICKED YOU IN THE AZZ. WORD TO THE WISE THE GANSTA ARE YOUR KIDS PANTS SAGGING AROUND THE ANKLES BANDANA'S AROUND THE HEAD WALKING LIKE CRACK HEADS AND 10TH GRADE DROP OUT AND YOU TALK ABOUT FANTASIA AT LEAST FOR HER SOMETHING NEGATIVE TURNED INTO A POSITIVE. YOUR KIDS ARE DESTINED TO BE PANHANDLERS PICKPOCKETERS STICK UP KIDS.
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Homer_2323 23 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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07-08-04, 04:40 PM (EST)
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128. "Fantasia Isnt Gangsta" |
LAST EDITED ON 07-08-04 AT 06:38 PM (EST)Why would somebody say that Fantasia is gangsta. She was really she would be wearing baggy clothes and what gangsta people wear. Fantasia is a very nice girl. I dont find anything wrong with her. She's normal like everyone else except she DROP OUT OF SCHOOL AND HAS A BABY. I DONT GIVE A CARE. IF SHES A SINGLE MOM WITH NO HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION AND SHE WON SO WHAT. SHE'LL FINISH HIGH SCHOOL SOME DAY. IF U THING THIS IS BAD INUFLUNCE FOR U CHILD WELL... GOOD FOR YOU DONT WATCH AMERICAN IDOL. Im not a Fantasia fan but i wish the best for her and Diana. From Homer_2323
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GinaVendetti 48 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-29-04, 11:33 AM (EST)
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130. "RE: american IDOL?" |
Thanks Wynstorm i had to agree with u all the way
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ejm92 2221 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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05-18-04, 11:08 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: american idol no more" |
I think the Idol controversy can easily be solved by having the voting take place online...Survivor gave away a million bucks based on an online vote, Idol should be able to do the same with a recording contract and "Idol" status. For one thing, I think they need to raise the stakes and give a much better prize to the winner of the show...the Idols now don't even seem to be concerned about winning, they're all happy to have gotten this far and don't seem to be cutthroat about making it to the end.Also...personally, I feel that this season was a huge disappointment. I think George and Jennifer had a much greater potential to have done better, but thanks to the voting scams and George's illness, neither of them had a great chance to make it. Fantasia, Latoya, and Diana are great talents.....but to put it into perspective, would any of them be able to make their way into the top three against Ruben, Clay, and Kim Locke? I'm not too sure...although I'm disappointed with Ruben post-Idol, he did a great job during the competition. I think FOX's biggest problem will be finding the right kind of talent for future shows, not the voting scam. Survivor All-Stars: Let's Go Big Tom!
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seahorse 14337 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-19-04, 02:53 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: american idol no more" |
There are problems that can come up in on-line voting also.Programs can be set up the automatically vote for a contestant and then keep on recasting a votes for the same person, they could vote thousands of times in a two hour period. This is hardly fair to the average guy who could maybe vote a one or two hundred times in two hours. Additionally, there is still a significant portion of the population that does not have access to the internet for online voting. This would result in the poorer social-economic class of people without internet access, not getting an equal chance to determine an American Idol winner. This would probably hurt the show's ratings unless phone voting was also continued. Any chages in votung need to be well thought out, but I agree their are obvious flaws with the present voting system.
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greenmonstah 10761 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-19-04, 08:42 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: yeah?" |
Awww...poor Breezy...all that motoring in the cool, Michigan air...
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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-19-04, 03:33 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: whew!" |
Doubt if any contestant will ever measure up to Ruben and that is not just singing.
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cheri26158 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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14. "RE: american idol no more" |
Fantasia is probably one of the most talented singers that American Idol will ever get their hands on. Randy Jackson and Simon Cowell know their stuff. You have heard each and every professional sing her praises, Elton John, Quinton Tarantino etc. She can hang with the best of them: Clay, Ruben, Kelly. In fact, I think you will see more of Fantasia then anyone. She has huge range from touching an audience to being about to act and sing. Diana Ross or Whitney Houston probably were the last two singers as versatile as this woman is. Recognizing these qualities are associated with a much older than her years singer. If American idold is about picking a 16 year old then pick Jasmine. She is a beauty. But she can't sing as well and fantasia. Did anyone very think her attitude has to do with keeping herself psyched and competitive? This is a competition. When someone wants to win desparately, they may seem a bit short in comment and thought. She is nineteen for pete's sake. I believe this woman is driven. I believe Jennifer was driven as well. You notice they both made comments. Jen just looked softer. Diana with coaching has a very bright future. Diana was a shining star each and everytime someone took personal interest in her. She is young but I think Celine can move over for her. Jasmine.. oh jasmine was weak tonight. she can do better than that. On a final note, having big lips and being called fantasia is a problem. I have big lips and big hips. I don't think that has to do with her screeching but personal preference and I respect your thoughts. Just when I read that stuff makes me want people to think how does it sound to others. And would u do that if the person was sitting in front of u. And finally, I remember working as a nurse in OB twenty years ago in a major metro area. A women gave birht to two children. She named them Coke and Pepsi. So people have all sorts of names that don't fall into our reality. Coke and Pepsi if you are reading this, it was to make a point. Good early morning! cheri
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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-19-04, 03:40 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: american idol no more" |
The only way Celine Dion will be moving over for Diana is if Diana becomes Celine's massage therapist. Diana's problem is she only wants to sing songs where she can belt, shout, scream, etc Those songs are fine and they show talent but after a while those types of songs can drive you crazy. she does not appeal to a younger audience. I think of those people like Ethel Merman, Kate Smith, Judy Garland eerytime I see her singing and screaming those notes out. I cannot see her selling a lot of CD's unless they totally change her whole image and try to turn her into a Hillary Duff, Britney, Cristina and she can cater to the young kids.
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AsianOK 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-19-04, 05:33 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: american idol no more" |
does an american idol have to be someone who sings excellently like mariah carey & dances excellently like paula abdul? this package is too hard to find, one in a million. the votes of the UNprofessional judges, so this is what we got. different people different opinions. but if jasmine wins, it's her LUCK that makes her win the title. she doesn't have a star quality (the others also don't really have but they're just better than she is). i believe she got so many votes not only from the people of hawaii but also the male viewers throughout america.
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pmspml5 3263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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05-19-04, 08:14 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: american idol no more" |
All I know is that I have 2 teen age sons. They love Jasmine - I asked why and they said - she can sing ok but she is HOT.
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grit 4868 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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05-19-04, 08:29 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: american idol no more" |
I think Jasmine has a pretty nice voice. There's a lot of potential. And, yeah, I could see how teenage boys would think she's hot.Unfortunately, she is frequently out of tune. This is a singing competition and I would think that good pitch would be important. If she won, who would buy her CD only to look at a picture of her? No one would want to listen to it because she'd be out of tune. She needs to work with a vocal coach and improve her pitch. Then she could come back and compete on American Idol. And all you Jasmine lovers out there, don't come back and tell me she sings in tune. She doesn't. I'm a musician with perfect pitch, which is why it's so painful to listen to some of these people sing.
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grit 4868 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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05-19-04, 09:39 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Wow....Perfect?" |
Just because I have perfect pitch doesn't mean I don't play some klinkers on my instruments. Having perfect pitch doesn't automatically guarantee perfect playing... (I wish)However, with perfect pitch I can tell you exactly what note someone is singing or playing. I can tune my violin to concert A without a tuner. And I can recognize when a note is slightly flat or sharp when compared to the accompaniment. Jasmine is frequently a degree or two under the note she's supposed to be hitting. If the band was also tuned a degree or two under the correct note, then she would be in tune relative to the musicians and it wouldn't bother me nearly as much. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
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grit 4868 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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05-19-04, 10:03 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Wow....Perfect?" |
Perfect pitch serves no practical purpose but it's a peculiar power to possess.It's not possible to pull off perfect pitch if you do not possess it in the first place. If you do not possess perfect pitch, you can prepare and practice to prevent pitch problems. Providentially, I take much pride and pleasure in possessing perfect pitch. Perfect looks? Got those too...
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GrendelsMom 3272 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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05-19-04, 08:43 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: Wow....Perfect?" |
Perfect pitch serves no practical purpose but it's a peculiar power to possess.You are right about it being peculiar. I also have it, and it helps me in playing something from the radio or after hearing it only once or twice. BUT it's a great hinderance when things get transposed. (I play keyboards for local pit orchestras, and the director will change keys all the time to match the singers' ranges. They don't rewrite the music, they just say "hit the transpose button." It drives me nuts!) It's not possible to pull off perfect pitch if you do not possess it in the first place. The latest research seems to indicate that this ability is genetic, which I've always suspected, since a number of my cousins (and my older brother) also have it. <==flashed by J_Loaf BTW, violin is also my first instrument. I started on Suzuki when I was 3. *waves to a fellow violinist*
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rjrabbit 3269 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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05-19-04, 09:03 PM (EST)
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90. "RE: Wow....Perfect?" |
Another hidden talent! Gren you amaze me! *waves* to grendelsmom
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grit 4868 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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05-20-04, 08:34 AM (EST)
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95. "RE: american idol no more" |
Hey Minkey - Somehow I missed seeing your question in this thread (wonder how that happened...)I'm not a fan of Fantasia's yeah, yeahing (although I'm not sure but I think the yeah, yeahs were actually part of one of the songs she did Tuesday - lyrics are not my forte) and, at first, I wasn't a fan of her attitude. I also didn't like that "Macy Gray" quality to her voice. But she always sings in tune (and I don't care what Simon says, part of it is about singing in tune), she sings with such passion, her phrasing is great, and she has such great control. That "Macy Gray" quality has toned down and I really enjoy listening to her. I'm getting chills right now thinking about her performance of "Summertime". I lvoe her attitude - she's got a great sense of humor (especially her exchanges with Simon the last few weeks). And for only being 19, she is so mature - both in her singing and her personality. I really wanted to see a Fantasia-LaToya-Jennifer final. That would have been awesome. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
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minkey 231 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-20-04, 09:27 AM (EST)
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98. "RE: american idol no more" |
Thanks Grit!!Out of all the seasons, Fantasia is the singer who has moved me most. There is something so real, and at times, sweetly vulnerable about her. She takes the risks that the other's don't. Nice to know that she's always in tune! Regardless of what people say, tune DOES matter . *waves* to Rabbit and ZB! *hugs* to Monst!
Jennifer was the only other singer who gave me chills. RIP
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zombiebaby 7356 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-19-04, 10:25 AM (EST)
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43. "I can smell it from here" |
> > Oh great! "Why >have a true singer when >we have have jazzie. she >is lucky and cute and >lucky." > > You have got >to be kidding!!! Is this >why we are voting? for >cute and to make someone >lucky? Is there really any other reason to vote? > Let's just vote >for the one with the >best haircut then. Yeah that Monstah just put too much sarcasm in her perfume today
One more of J Slice's Awesome Creations! Hoping someone votes for me to "get lucky"
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Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-19-04, 09:08 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: american idol no more" |
I'm disappointed in the whole season and blame the judges. I think they gave us 9 out of 12 weak performers. And the other 3 didn't do anything for me either. I don't care who wins, I won't be buying concert tickets nor CD's. On the other hand I love Locke's Eighth World Wonder. TummyBreez
a beautiful kyngsladye original Proud Member of the RBBRTFHLA/Sugar Ho Group
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kileh2 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-19-04, 09:18 AM (EST)
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33. "RE: american idol no more" |
PLEASE, lord, make jasmine win, so i can laught my booty off!!! i crack up hearing this bad stuff about her, because at the end of the day, who really cares, and besides, american idol needs a little pick me up!!!, but more importantly, hawaii is getting overcrowded with idiot tourists and we need to start thinning the herd!! GO JASMINE!!
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calamityc 1041 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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05-19-04, 01:32 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: american idol no more" |
The only thing this season has done for me is show me America has a perverse sense of humor (I knew that already). Some of you quit caring when Jennifer left, I quit caring when Johnny Red stayed weeks after he was overcooked. I've used the rest of the season as a comedic experience. The look on the judge's faces when the best singers hit bottom two is hilarious if you don't have a personal preference. Watching Simon have a fit will make my season if Jasmine wins. They need to enable internet voting, it would help with the phone line problem. But people can still cheat.
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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-19-04, 02:28 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: american idol no more" |
I persopnally think they have chosen their winner and it probably will be Diana and not Fantasia. I think if she does win it will be because she was Miss Teen Georgia, she was a finalist in the "America's Most talented kid", etc. etc. and she probably knows a lot of people. I think Fantasia is very talented and was great last night (does better on upbeat songs) but she is not what you would call "The American Idol" image. I am not bashing her I am just saying what I have heard and read. She is an unwed Mother of a 2 year old and she is 19 and she has no High School diploma. You heard her say before Idol she stayed home and ate. However, I do believe that those judges and live Davis think she is the best and therefore, last night they were assuring everyone that don't worry about Fantasia becasue win or lose she is going to be a star. I think they wee softening the blow. Fantasia seems to be the kind of performer that either people love her or they hate her, there is no middle ground. Too many references were made Monday night and last night about Fantasia and win or lose and she kept saying even if I don't win and last night, Paula said she did not need the competition anymore and if I am not mistaken did Paula say those same words to Tamyra, Trenyce and Clay???? Not once did anyone say it to Ruben. I could be totally wrong but at this point I don't see anynone but Diana winning this competion and that is not based on her talent alone..
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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-19-04, 02:34 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: american idol no more" |
I don't think that the judges or Clive think that Diana is the best, what they probably think is that she is easy to mold. Fantasia is who she is already and Diana is just a robot, you push a button and she sings what you want.
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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-19-04, 02:39 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: american idol no more" |
Hey SheDevil, I don't think I worded what I said right, I agree I think the judges believe that Fantasia is better but her image is killing them right now. So last night they wanted her fans to know that she will be a big star. You know whaat is funny, its called American Idol yet each year now they are telling the people with talent how much better they can do other then becoming the American Idol.. Oh I think Diana comes from a wealthy family if she has been in all those contests and I think her Mother pushes her on. I may be wrong but I see her winning and lets face it, week after week she has either been first perform or last to perform. I guess they will let Fantasia and Diana go on to the finals because I have a feeling if Fantasia went home tonight and Jasmine stayed, there be more rioting in Los Angeles.
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stormysatan 90 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-19-04, 02:53 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: american idol no more" |
What talent are u talking about? Diana doesn't have enough talent to become American Idol. She can hit high notes well but other than that, she has nothing to back up what you say her would-be title. To me, none of the three has the right to take the title but if somebody has to, it should be Fantasia.
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hunniebunns 119 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-19-04, 04:48 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: american idol no more" |
"To me, none of the three has the right to take the title but if somebody has to, it should be Fantasia. "I agree completely. Of course there's always people out there who think one of the others should win and that could and will be debated until we're all blue in the face. However, I haven't heard anyone, except maybe Elton John (someone can clarify) say that they would sign Diana or Jasmine and we've had almost everyone say that Fantasia could get signed easily. Now, this could be b/c they (AI Folks) are pushing a Diana win...I hope not, but I'd be okay with it. It's almost like they're preparing us...letting us (the Fantasia fans) know that there is hope for her. What I didn't quite understand last night was that Jasmine got alot of criticism last night...even more so than the other night when she collasped in Ryans arms crying...but last night, she was all smiles and said, well, that's alright. No tears or anything. I guess I'm just of the opinion that she seems too bubblegum for me.
Just my 2 cents.... BTW, Shedevil....I have totally enjoyed reading your posts and agree with most that you have posted. You make me smile.
Hunnie
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SunDevilScott 6 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-19-04, 06:52 PM (EST)
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82. "RE: american idol no more" |
I agree, The Fantastic Burrito drives me up a wall. We already had one failed Macie Grey. Why would we need a copy of that?
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cheri26158 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-19-04, 08:46 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: american idol no more" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-19-04 AT 08:58 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 05-19-04 AT 08:53 PM (EST) cheri Fantasia's appeal is going to be to the people who enjoy motown and like an entertainer. The girl has it going on. She can sing slow. She can sing fast. And she can sing with her own style. I akin the woman to a mariah carey. Mariah grates on some peoples nerves while others love her. But arethra Franklin.. Respect.. fantastia.. all I can say is fantastic. Clay, kelly and ruben all had that uniqueness too. But it fell on a different audience with each. You hardly hear a thing about Ruben. yet he has been nominated and recieved many awards for the category of music he works best in. Now his voice the " velvet dog" was nothing short of amazing. But I would think Kelly and Clay had blown him out of the water. they haven't. Just not everyone is int he audience he influences. I don't think Fantasia's record sales will ever be poor. The proof is in the pudding. There are plenty of the 30-50 year old set that will be buying her music as well as he gospel set of musical buyers. Who would have ever thought Enya to be so large, but she is. Diana is a kid but I like her. I have worked as a coach my entire life and I see a bright future for a kid who can learn like this one to respond to coaching. And she certainly doesn't appear to be a primadonna being miss teen usa or whatever. In fact, I think the stress in the beginning overwhelmed her. But she is fine. She doesn't have a wide range of good. So those who love her will love slow and high note ballads. I wish i could hold a note that long. ( only in the shower when noone can hear) ha. Jasmine.. well there are plenty of loungues in Oahu that need entertainers. She will be an island favorite. good evening
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mistofleas 8043 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-20-04, 10:55 AM (EST)
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100. "RE: american idol no more" |
Mine!
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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-20-04, 02:33 PM (EST)
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108. "RE: american idol no more" |
I saw Ruben on the View yesterday and he took up 2 stools and actually made Star Jones look small... Looks like that boy has had a lot of midnight snacks. Too many late night munchie attacks.
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cheri26158 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-20-04, 09:18 PM (EST)
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114. "RE: american idol no more" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-20-04 AT 09:23 PM (EST)cheri hence the point of my message, not to say Ruben was unsuccessful. I think he is tremendously successful. I think audience reach can be different for each and every singer. I love Ruben's voice. I remember waking my husband up to listen to him. I'm like I don't know who this kids is but OMG he can sing. fantasia can sing. Jennifer could sing. La Toya could sing. George Huff could sing. Diana needs to mature. I hope all of them do well post competition. Fantasia is a clear cut winner in this. But lets see how it goes. cheers!
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shanana banana 658 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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05-20-04, 09:02 PM (EST)
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111. "RE: american idol no more" |
I am surprised by the people saying that Fantasia was just average on Tuesday night. Quite frankly, she blew me away -- I thought she was absolutely amazing. She knows how to work the audience, groove on stage, make a song you've already heard a thousand times before sound *interesting* -- whereas Jasmine and Diana just sing imitations of the songs they choose. Even the Whitney Houston song, which was a horrible pick for poor Fantasia, she pulled through with flying colors.......but the first two songs were just incredible. Her pitch and voice control are always spot on. And she's fun!I really hope Fantasia wins this competition. Diana is good, but not great yet. Her voice and stage presence are too immature -- I think she'll really be something in a few years, but for now she's still feeling her way. She definitely has an incredible voice, but it needs work and discipline. Fantasia is already there and beyond. I don't think Fantasia's attitude is "gangsta" --- I've also heard people refer to her as "ghetto" --- I think it's more obvious that she is "southern." The word "country" does make people think of cowboy boots and yee-haw --- but Fantasia with her collard greens and pigs feet and chitlins and Nawth Carolina accident is pure southern gal. She hasn't had an attitude problem since way in the beginning of the show. The judges were right to hype her because she's the most interesting, innovative singer left --- the other excellent singer of the previous week, LaToya, was definitely a fantastic singer, but was completely void of personality or individuality, unfortunately. Go Fantasia!!
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dangerkitty 1913 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-20-04, 09:37 PM (EST)
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118. "RE: american idol no more" |
Hey shanana, you put that really well! I will just "ditto" you here. I have grown to really enjoy and appreciate Fantasia - don't love every single thing she does or sings, but do love a lot of it, and always dig the personality and moxie she brings to it. She'll be keeping busy no matter what. Probably better off without the actual AI title, frankly. Watching the show Tuesday, I thought "AI needs Fantasia at theis point more than Fantasia needs AI." dangerkitty
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