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"Gregs gets left roseless!"
Well despite the fact that everyone in America can see that Russ is a creepy, slimy stalker in the making, Trista keeps him around and gets rid of Greg.

Wonder if the little "shoe-box apartment" had anything to do with it?? Hell I've been in bathrooms bigger than that thing!

And is it just me or does she seem to be getting closer and closer to Ryan?



"It's only cheating if you get caught".....Al Bundy

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 RE: Gregs gets left roseless! AMAI 01-30-03 1
   RE: Gregs gets left roseless! Loree 01-30-03 5
       RE: Gregs gets left roseless! Ashmo 01-30-03 9
           RE: Gregs gets left roseless! djandy 01-30-03 10
           RE: Gregs gets left roseless! dajaki 01-30-03 17
 RE: Gregs gets left roseless! djandy 01-30-03 2
   RE: Gregs gets left roseless! djandy 01-31-03 22
 RE: Gregs gets left roseless! SurvivinDawg 01-30-03 3
   RE: Gregs gets left roseless! smiley 01-30-03 8
       RE: Gregs gets left roseless! lroy 01-30-03 12
           RE: Gregs gets left roseless! SurvivinDawg 02-02-03 24
   Punka the creep !!!!! katem 01-30-03 13
       RE: Punka the creep !!!!! Lisapooh 01-30-03 14
 RE: Gregs gets left roseless! Loree 01-30-03 4
   RE: Gregs gets left roseless! SurvivorBlows 01-30-03 6
       RE: Gregs gets left roseless! SurvivinDawg 01-31-03 20
 greg! sorgee 01-30-03 7
   RE: greg! SurvivorBlows 01-30-03 11
       RE: greg! Lisapooh 01-30-03 15
       RE: greg! SurvivinDawg 01-31-03 21
   RE: greg! dajaki 01-30-03 16
       RE: greg! SurvivorOverlord 01-31-03 18
           RE: greg! MellowYellow 01-31-03 19
               RE: greg! Loree 02-01-03 23
                   Charlie's parents' home dajaki 02-02-03 25

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AMAI 1254 desperate attention whore postings
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01-30-03, 11:20 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
Ha I thought this guy would get the boot - but I thought his name was Russ! heehee

Really - I knew which guy I thought was the slimiest.

Or I thought I did - that Russ really is a psycho serial creepo. ugh shudder - I think he's gone next.

Charlie is probably going to win. I cannot see anyone else really truly offering a better deal - someone who will make Trista be the best person she can.

He's the best of the lot by a long shot

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5. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
Russ is still around for the ratings. It has to be the ratings because we all know Charlie and Ryan have been her final 2 for awhile now.

When Russ' family said he never brings his girlfriends home I thought that is probably because Russ' girlfriends are always imaginary. This guy is just too creepy.

And when Trista thought the firemen were cute in their little uniforms I was giggling on the floor. Not the way you normally hear firefighters described.

What will hurt Ryan is that he doesn't live in California like Charlie. Charlie has the lifestyle that Trista wants.

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01-30-03, 03:34 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
"When Russ' family said he never brings his girlfriends home I thought that is probably because Russ' girlfriends are always imaginary. This guy is just too creepy."

Or maybe it's because all of Russ's girlfriends are male? Just a thought. I can't believe she kept him AGAIN!

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01-30-03, 04:05 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
That's so funny that you thought that Russ might be gay, because my very first impression when Russ got out of the limo on the first date was that he was gay, and I couldn't believe they'd put a gay guy on this show after the controversy over the first Bachelor possibly being gay.
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01-30-03, 11:19 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
I also suspect that Russ may be a gay man trying to convince the world that he is straight. Either that or no man, woman or beast will have anything to do with him.
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2. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
Greg's Apartment was so bad that it will be getting an Apartment Make-Over on Good Morning America. An Interior Designer is making over Greg's apartment, and they're going to show the results on Thursday's GMA.
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01-31-03, 02:22 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
Katie Brown painted Greg's walls dark grey, covered his couch in black, put all his stereo equipment in a bookshelf, put a sliding curtain in to section off the "bedroom", put new flooring in the kitchen, and painted his kitchen cupboards with black chalkboard paint so that he could write on them instead of writing on little pieces of paper that were found all around the apartment. Final cost: $3,000. Greg seemed to like it and was a good sport about it. He seemed a little embarrased when they kept talking about his clutter.
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01-30-03, 11:53 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
Actually, it was pretty obvious that Greg would get the boot.

Trista has felt a physical attraction with Russ from Minute 1. I think she still feels that, although the negative tensions with Russ are still there.

Trista really likes Charlie and she really likes Ryan. I think her connection with them is stronger now than with Russ.

I also believe that she kept Greg instead of Bob to make this decision (chopping 4 down to 3) easier. I think she liked Bob better, but knew she wasn't taking him to the wire. So she let Bob off easier by having him waxed as part of a group, instead of alone. I'm not saying she wasn't attracted to Greg (far from it), but I suspect this was part of her reasoning.

As to Greg's apartment: It was pretty standard New York City fare. And I know this from spending a week with my brother when he lived in NYC. I was waiting for Greg to say something like "when I get married, I'll get a bigger one". Pretty much if you get an apartment with a good working bathroom, a good working kitchen, and in reasonable repair, you're doing great. Admittedly, Greg's decoration taste is about as bad as mine(!), but I didn't think it was end-of-the-world.

Anyway, Greg was pretty much doomed from the start, and I suspect he knew as much. And who knows just how Trista made it up to him in that little apartment .

My guess is that Charlie and Ryan will be the last two, and Ryan will lose ONLY because he's a firefighter from Vail, not from Kalifornia. Trista is obviously a DAW with a career in mind, and I just can't see that working out with Ryan's life and career. He's a good guy and deserves a good girl, but I don't think it'll be Trista.


Did Trista sample all four of her little stable of studs?
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01-30-03, 03:14 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
I totally agree Dawg...and of course you know everyone will feel sorry for Ryan coz he fell in love with Trista and got his heart broken...its all about the ratings, and right now it looks like the Bachelorette really needs them!

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12. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
>I totally agree Dawg...and of course
>you know everyone will feel
>sorry for Ryan coz he
>fell in love with Trista
>and got his heart broken...

If all of America feels sorry for him, we may just have our next Bachelor!


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24. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
If all of America feels sorry for him, we may just have our next Bachelor!

I dunno, I'm having trouble envisioning Ryan being The Bachelor. I'm also having trouble envisioning Ryan as a big DAW.



Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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01-30-03, 04:42 PM (EST)
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13. "Punka the creep !!!!!"

>Trista has felt a physical attraction
>with Russ from Minute 1.
> I think she still
>feels that, although the negative
>tensions with Russ are still
>there.

My question is, how can a weirdo like Punka have such a nice, fun family like him?

>My guess is that Charlie and
>Ryan will be the last
>two, and Ryan will lose
>ONLY because he's a firefighter
>from Vail, not from Kalifornia.
> Trista is obviously a
>DAW with a career in
>mind, and I just can't
>see that working out with
>Ryan's life and career.
>He's a good guy and
>deserves a good girl, but
>I don't think it'll be
>Trista.

Sigh Dawg, I'm pretty sure you are right on the money here. Charlie is almost as creepy as Punka.

Ryan deserves better. So did Greg for that matter, he seems like a cool guy.


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01-30-03, 06:37 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Punka the creep !!!!!"
Ryan could have a certain princess if he wanted! He's sweet, he's steady, he lives in the mountains, he paints, he writes gushy poetry *sigh*

long term though, I can' t see Trista being happy with the life Ryan would give her. But there are a million other girls who would love it.


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01-30-03, 12:03 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
Poor Greg never had a chance. He lives in New York which is not in Trista's plans. Plus he isn't rich and sophisticated enough for her lifestyle. He was cute but not in her league. When Trista was standing by his bed and asked where the bedroom was I thought she was an idiot. Wasn't it obvious she was already in his bedroom?
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6. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
That was rather stupid -- what'd she think, he kept an "extra" bed setup in the living room?

-SB

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20. "RE: Gregs gets left roseless!"
When I saw that, my first reaction was that Trista's remark was staged for the camera.

Also, considering that the lobby looked nice, that apartment was really small and decrepit. I suspect they didn't show the whole apartment.



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7. "greg!"
ok. his apartment sucked and he wasn't the most sophisticated of the group. but, he could have done some things to help himself. matching decor. a few nice plants. cleaning the kitchen. geez um, he should have known from past episodes that he might possibly make it to the point that she would check out his place.

i think this guy sabotaged himself.

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11. "RE: greg!"
You also can't help but wonder able that "I lent out my apartment while I was gone" story -- sounds like a fake cover story for why the place was a mess to me!

I'd like know how long he was back in NYC before Trista arrived -- it sounds like he might have been back home for a day or two before she arrived (remember, she had 3 other guys to visit and who knows if the visit order matched what they showed last evening.) If so what, the guy couldn't beg/pay a neighbor to let him stash his crap in their place overnight rather than see all that crap that was piled in the kitchen area appear on national TV?

-SB

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15. "RE: greg!"
personally the fact that his apartment was small wouldn't bother me. But the filth and clutter - if that's what the place looks like the first time he has her over - how bad will it be once they're a couple.

Boys - please straighten up before we come over!

Carry on.

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21. "RE: greg!"
You also can't help but wonder able that "I lent out my apartment while I was gone" story -- sounds like a fake cover story for why the place was a mess to me!

According to my brother, people in NYC do that all the time. My brother frequently had people living on his sofa until they got a place of their own. Greg seems to be the type that is probably similar to my brother. So I wouldnt' be surprised if he did have someone stay there.

I'd like know how long he was back in NYC before Trista arrived -- it sounds like he might have been back home for a day or two before she arrived

I got the feeling that all the guys were sent home, then Trista went to one place after the other. I would also not be surprised if Greg was first visited (Trista starts in NYC and works her way back West). As to the clutter, I have no defense for the poor guy.



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16. "RE: greg!"
I'm wondering if Greg padded his resume by calling himself an "importer." Technically, couldn't a cashier in a 99 cent store, which sells goods that are all tagged "Made in China," also call himself an "importer"?
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18. "RE: greg!"
I totally agree about the apartment....the worst thing about it was all the crap pile in the kitchen! So much that he had to invent a tool out of a bottle to try and get Trista a glass out of the cabinet...I mean come on!

He had to have been in NY for at least 24 hours before she showed up....and if he did let a friend stay there...after he made the final 4 wouldn't you call your "friend" and tell them to clean the place up??

Plus his mom and his sister seem to live near-by...couldn't he have stored that crap in thier house or something...it just didn't seem like he tried to make it any better.

Hell if it was me and I had a woman like Trista coming over, I would have had maids in spit-polishing the floors and I would have been at the nearest Pottery Barn or something buying myself a personality! :p


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19. "RE: greg!"
What ya see is what ya get!

I say good for Greg!

The fact they met his parents in neutral zone, a restaurant, would have been more of a setback than the tiny apart, IMO. It's the people who make the house, not reverse. Better to laugh in a loft than cry in a mansion.


Who's to say Russ didn't rent his place for the occasion? Or rent the family for that matter? (sweet little niece!)


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23. "RE: greg!"
Yes we never did see Greg's mom's place. They could have met there. While we saw Charlie's parents' place but never Charlie's own place.

I think Greg is just relaxed and thought he wasn't going to pretend for Trista. She either liked him for himself or why bother.

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25. "Charlie's parents' home"
We probably saw Charlie's parents' home because it's much more impressive than his place in LA, and it's more authentic if Trista has to travel outside of LA to meet the families. I was glad to see Flagstaff. We lived there for two years during grad school and loved it. Chances are his parents' home is in Forest Highlands (gated country club/subdivision near Pulliam Airport).
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