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"Bring back the Fast Forward!"
LibraRising 2847 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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03-25-05, 02:22 PM (EST)
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"Bring back the Fast Forward!" |
Am I the only one who has never been a fan of the new "scarce Fast Forward" rules? Used to be, when there was a FF on every leg, it was a matter of strategy of when to use it and when to pass it up. It was more of a tool for teams who fell behind for one reason or another to try to catch up -- and even that wasn't always enough, like the father & son who were eliminated in TAR3 despite finding the FF. By the end, the teams who did well enough not to need it in the early stages of the race then had the FF advantage in the last legs. It also made more of a variety in first place finishes, not to mention the variety editing-wise, because we always saw the FF team doing a different task than the others.Now that there's only a couple of FFs, the strategy's gone. Basically, the first team to get to it is going to take it because they never know if they'll be first for the next one. Unless it's really close, the rest of the teams won't even try. I think Adam/Rebecca might have been an exception last season, but still. It's really just a way now for the first place team to get an even larger lead over the others, and that lead will just be sucked away by bunching eventually. So it's almost as useless as the yield. And don't get me started on non-elim FF legs. I still haven't recovered from Brandon not getting eliminated when he refused to shave his head.
Although watching that wuss Adam bumble around in the diving suit was probably the best moment last season.
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MTommy 80 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-25-05, 03:16 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Bring back the Fast Forward!" |
This and the fact that clues have become directions to the next location in almost all instances are the two things I miss most from first AR seasons. A FF which actually meant something was once the best part of the game.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-26-05, 08:52 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Bring back the Fast Forward!" |
I'm in the exact opposite camp. I'd be in favor of totally eliminating the fast forward, but I'm willing to compromise with a very few of them tossed in to add interest. As you say, It was more of a tool for teams who fell behind for one reason or another to try to catch up. I'm only too happy to have more of the race based on skill and the ability to deal with adversity and less based on quirky stuff like the fast forward.Then again, I'm a fan of Romber because they are highly skilled at playing the game. I've never been fond of a weak team suddenly ending up in the final three when they don't deserve it based on game play. "Fear is just another word for ignorance." Hunter S. Thompson
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watermelon 184 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-26-05, 11:38 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Bring back the Fast Forward!" |
Totally agree on the following accounts:- want more fast forwards like in the old days - Adam in diving suit was the best moment last season imo too - need clues that are less directions and more puzzles I definitely enjoyed the first few seasons of TAR a LOT more than the current ones, prob because of above reasons I also liked it better when they booked their own flights rather than being told take this one or this one. They actually needed skill/people skills to get the best flights when they were left to their own devices. Also meant less bunching.
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Das Mole 2366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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03-26-05, 06:56 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Bring back the Fast Forward!" |
I definitely agree with the whole thing. I think the Fast Forward definitely made things a lot more interesting, plus it got real good when two teams went for it and then the team that didn't get it was completely screwed.I thought it sucked when they brought the Yield in on season 5 and then stopped w/all the Fast Forwards, I was like...this sucks. The Yield is "retarded" as Debbie and Bianca would put it . Nobody uses it except for last season, TWO times, whoopee, and it doesn't even really make that big of a difference, IMO, unless the Yielded people are in a large group. The whole idea of the Yield to me is just kinda stupid and pointless. Now, of course, the Fast Forward has a few bad things about it too, like, let's say the worst team on the race is in last, gets the Fast Forward and you have to watch them for another week...plus, that's a little unfair to the teams that are actually good and deserve to be in first. I think it would be better if they brought back the Fast Forward in every leg, or at least increased the number of times it showed up, maybe to 4 or 5, rather than 2.
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realitybites 1174 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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03-27-05, 03:41 AM (EST)
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9. "You're not the only one" |
I too miss having the fast forward on every leg (at least legs 1-11). I never really figured out the best strategy under the old rules, while it seems comically simple under the new ones, as you mentioned.
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Fishercat 4168 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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03-30-05, 03:28 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Bring back the Fast Forward!" |
I would prefer an addition of more fast forwards. Not overloading them on every leg so, when near the end, only two teams can go for it, but enough of them where it becomes a strategic tool again. Something like 6 of them in a 12 leg race, one every two (randomly assigned) would make it enough of a strategic tool so teams can use it when, as Phil says, it is most adventageous. At this point, the first place team just grabs it since the odds of seeing it again in a good position is really low. Not to mention, who wouldn't take the FF in first place (when it shows up 3 times or so) when they can almost guarantee themselves a nice prize (trip, money, cars, Alex/Lynn's satisfaction in beating Romber).For innstance, Libra mentions the father and son who were eliminated in spite of getting the FF. That gave the father and son some hope after falling hopelessly behind (which doesn't happen as often), they had a pretty awesome experience (and the FF is sometimes like that. The vintage diving suit, the cooling towers, driving a tank, searching through rugs...err...), and it helps an underdog for one leg. If that was on TAR7, the father/son would not have it available since the first place team would jump on it. Personally, I'd love to see them have one FF with two chances to get ahead, namely the first two to complete it. Don't tell them, but there were 9 FF slips, and it would help teams take more chances.
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