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"favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
coffeegrrl 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-23-05, 01:06 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Actually, there Have been episodes in past TARs where the 1st place teams don't win a thing.
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GottaLoveTAR 76 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-23-05, 01:10 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Seems more like a coinkydink to me.
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Earl Colby Pottinger 2597 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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03-23-05, 02:36 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Now if you want to talk Favoritism. Why were R&A allowed on the 9:30 flight when they arrived at 9:25?Any other time when someone is this close they rarely if ever hold the flight. If they did not have to check thier luggage I can still see it as a simple walk on, but even on a charter flight (was this one, it appeared so) getting extra luggage stowed is a major delay. Earl Colby Pottinger PS. At-least Rob amitted he won due to luck this time.
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Dakota 5819 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-08-05, 07:14 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
CBS knows that Rob and Amber are a draw - love 'em or hate 'em. And even reality shows are "produced". An example is "confessionals". These people aren't just talking about what's on their minds, they're asked questions and the answers are probably edited. We all know that they can make someone look like a villian and then later show us scenes to make the person more likeable. That's show biz. What irks me is that they've emphasized Rob the schemer, the liar, the con artist, and then show Amber's campaign to make them America's Sweethearts. "Angels have been helping us all the way." "We're the luckiest people in the world." "You got it baby." "Good job, baby." "Baby" "Baby" "Baby" (Does she ever use his name?) And of course, every time Lynn or Alex utter something about Romber, that gets edited in. This seems to be more the Rob and Amber show than The Amazing Race. Charter Member: Club Anti-DAW
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waldo555 104 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-08-05, 07:25 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I don't understand why this point angers people so much. Is it so hard to beleive that Romber got to the gate at 9:30, and the plane still hadn't left. Then the crappy airline that it was decided to hold the plane for 4 (ROmber + crew) full fare paying customers. CBS didn't use all their clout in the South American airline industry to hold the plane. It was just a little behind schedule. Get a grip people.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-05, 02:38 AM (EST)
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5. "Moving to Bashers" |
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renegadetx 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-23-05, 03:40 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
The game is definately being manipulated. CBS should be scared because the big parties we have had in the past (I work in a nightclub and the race is a weekly draw) are going to stop. The customers have never felt so raped until the Rob/Amber fiasco. This show used to deserve the EMMY's. Now it has become "Springer".
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happjack2002 28 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-23-05, 08:25 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: No on the latter, maybe on the former" |
The flight to Buenos Aires wasnt a charter since there where locals on the flight so it seems the only two flights between those two cities where at those times. Next its about even for teams just getting on a flight and most of the time teams that get shut out are in Asia where they are more strict on the rules and take into account that the airport last night was tiny it wasnt like major airports where it can take 45 minutes to get from ticketing to the gate.
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dragonflies 8051 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-05, 08:28 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: No on the latter, maybe on the former" |
In the video clips on the website there is a clip where L/A mention that they didn't win a prize, but since they beat R/A that was good enought for them. I still smell setup about the planet though. Just MHO.
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HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-05, 09:43 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
This whole ep left a bad taste in my mouth. It was boring and not very competitive. You knew the first five times had a 5 hour lead so they were not going so why even care what happen to them.The last three teams were like nails on a chalk board. Please get all these teams off as soon as possible. The tasks for the last 3 episodes have been very simple except for the 4 pounds of meat. The horses could almost walk and make it in 45 seconds. Find a main in a rain coat when he is the only person there – oh..that’s hard and the train station is right across the street. And can we test the equipment out before the contestants use them. This is not how many boats can break down during normal operation it’s a race. Have we ever seen so much equipment breakdown that they set up? I want to see a race and this is not a race.
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trudy 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-23-05, 11:13 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I agree that part of Rob's luck can be attributed to his pleasant and easygoing attitude toward the locals. He isn't afraid to ask for help and he gets it because he's not the rushed, rude, demanding tourist. They want to help him because he comes across as a nice guy to them. It's that simple.He's managed most tasks in an efficient way. The books are a good example. He started by saying they didn't have a lot of money so they should schlepp and not shop. Then told Amber to pick up books that were the same size if possible. Then stacked them like bricks so they wouldn't fall off the dolly. Cause if you remember right, he's a Construction guy. (shelter building ring a bell?) That wasn't luck, it was good planning. They really haven't been quoted running the other teams down at all. L&A, R&D, S&P have said mean comments about the other teams, not just once but many times. I haven't heard R&A, U&J, B&G, G&M or R&K do that. I know this is bashers so let me just add - Ray and Deanna stink at racing in general and Lynn & Alex are just becomming the recipients of the bad karma they send out.
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Smooth23 1244 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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03-23-05, 07:44 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
No, J&V only got passing comments, not entire whines.
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watermelon 184 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-24-05, 08:53 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I think Romber are annoying, but not downright bad enough people like J/V, which makes it fun to bash them. OTOH, J/V are so horrible... wel, Jon is... that it's not even fun to bash them. They are sooooooooooo beneath even being worth bashing. Do you get what I mean?
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kvasir79 48 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-31-05, 07:11 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
>And the remark from "them" about STD...was that a freakin oxymoron or what? Nope, look up what oxymoron means in the dictionary. > ROMBER is doing a great job and not being mean or nasty to each >other or other teams. Romber has been nasty and manipulative to the other teams since day one. Ever since they bribed the security guard on day one and they'd do it again and again to interfere other people's game. They'd then go back and accuse others treating them badly as soon as others retaliate or have discovered of their little schemes. >As far as the plane goes.....you would be surprised at how far a >little charm, and kindnes will take people....very far in this >world. I wouldn't be surprised how far a little bribe and planted locals would go.... just something to think about.
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kittykat_08 14 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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03-30-05, 07:30 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7? i think not" |
so when something lucky happens to other teams you think think that it's mainly luck but if it happens to romber... "there must be favoritism!!!!! whaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!" <rolls eyes> if something lucky happens it happens. lets not be one sided here let us also consider the numerous times other teams have been lucky. it hasn't only happened to romber.
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kvasir79 48 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-30-05, 02:31 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I will go so far to say the very helpful locals were planted.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-30-05, 05:43 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
We're gonna get the Texas legislature to draft a bill. New from Sigs by Syren!!
Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-
Oh wait, this isn't the sports forum.
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waldo555 104 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-31-05, 06:39 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I hope the game is rigged so that Romber wins. That way we see more of Amber, she is such a hottie.
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kvasir79 48 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-31-05, 06:54 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
uh huh... so Romber can ride their winning streak and onto the next CBS reality show. It's a win-win for the network.
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Cygnus X1 7505 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-31-05, 10:57 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
You know you have no good argument when all you can come up with is some lame-azz irrelevant joke.Then I cordially invite you to the Off Topic forum for many more lame-azz irrelevant jokes! Why is this so hard to believe? The producers had already went to the countries to set up stops, challgenges, checked out transportation schedules. They've already hired so many locals to be part of the show. Doesn't take that much more money and effort to bribe some more locals to help out Romber, it certainly does help ratings when these "guardian angels" appear along the way. Certainly helps ratings when Romber stays on the race longer. Sometimes there's just no way Romber would finish where they were without help. You've put forth this theory. Fine. Anything else to back it up? We're not going to provide evidence that Bruck and company didn't bribe anyone; you can't prove a negative. FTR, I'm no Romber fan, and I don't think they should have been on the show to begin with, but that's another thread. They are on the show, and they have celebrity status from being on Survivor, and that's that. And as was pointed out last year, I doubt Bruck had enough money to hire all those Indian locals in TAR 5 to grope Christie and Nicole (for two) on the train, when so many others would gladly have done so for free. (Apologies to whomever said that.) Or, as I said, get Congress involved, mmmkay?
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kvasir79 48 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-01-05, 01:04 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Wouldn't it be fun though to have Bruck getting one of his CSI teams to figure it out?
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kittykat_08 14 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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04-01-05, 00:54 AM (EST)
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48. "guardian angels" |
these so called guardian angels are nothing more than excited fans. come on have a little faith, bribery and cheating isnt always the case.
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GameOver3 51 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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04-08-05, 09:40 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: guardian angels" |
CBS is definitely manipulating this race to keep Romber alive.Never before have we seen so many magical locals jump out of nowhere to help teams, nor have we seen so many mysterious lucky breaks allowing Romber to catch up. Its quite clear CBS is messing with this race. Everytime Romber falls behind, they have a mysterious helper show up to conviently help them get ahead. Not to mention the flight in Episode 4, when they shouldn't have gotten on. IF Brian/Greg truly got there at 9:25 for the 9:30 flight, they should have been the very last team to get on. Depending on how close the plane was to where they bought the tickets, it probably took 5 minutes to get there, get their luggage situated and get their seats. They should have already been going down the runway, getting read to take off into the sky. Its happened in the past with teams where they make it to a flight that is delayed, but in the case of TAR5, nearly every flight was delayed that season. Bowling Moms caught up in Episode 6 to a delayed flight and Charla/Mirna and Bowling Moms got screwed by flight delays. There were countless more delays that season that cost people their game, while only like one case helped a team out. Romber's the only team to have all this magical help from nowhere and mysterious flight holdings to keep them in the top pack. Also, I think its fishy that everytime Romber came in first, they won a trip or something. I mean, its not like they can't afford to take their own trips. Some of these other teams might not be able to afford to take vacations to Europe, Australia, Hawaii, Mexico, Jamaica, etc, and they really want to win those trips. Ron/Kelly and Lynn/Alex should call bullshit with CBS for not winning trips while money grubbing media whores Romber have 3 trips.
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Ruthless 281 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-08-05, 10:36 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: guardian angels" |
" Favoritism is cried every season. Lori/Bolo's own train last year is one example." .................... When I saw that episode, I noticed other people on the platform waiting for a train. Bolo would have seen them arriving and figured there must be a train soon, so he went and enquired again, and lo and behold, there was an earlier train. I don't think it was conjured up by TPTB, I think it was just inefficient station staff not knowing about the 2.00 am train.I do wonder about the last minute getting of flights though. I'm sure TPTB have made block bookings for a certain number of teams on flights. Freddy and Kendra "only just" made the flight from Addis Ababa to Dubai to Columbo. Yeah right, there was only one possible flight that day so TPTB would have already had sufficient seats booked and probably even asked that the plane be held for them in case they were running late. I often wonder about the pit stop arrival and departure times as well. They tell us so and so arrived at 2.31 pm, so they will be leaving at 2.31 am. How do we know they arrived at 2.31 pm, and how do we know it is really 2.31 am when they leave? TAR1 had a clock at the mat. It disappeared for TAR2 and has never been seen again. I believe in the last leg of TAR7, that the pit stop arrival times weren't mentioned, only the departure times, and this was because of a need to ensure everyone got through that leg before dark so they all had to leave early in the morning, which may not have been able to be achieved if they left 12 hours after they arrived. I'm sure the interval times between departures would have been maintained, but the overnight stay may have been considerably more or less than 12 hours.
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kvasir 51 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-04-05, 01:11 PM (EST)
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83. "RE: guardian angels" |
again, the guardian angel has decented on British soil. Romber could NO WAY solved all the puzzles if it weren't for the guide. Every single answer was provided by the guide. They have nothing that make them legitimate winners. They are totally clueless, pardon the pun. For god sakes, Rob doesn't even know what a gnome is!
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Tahj 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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05-04-05, 01:26 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: guardian angels" |
You're forgetting that all Ron and Kelly had to do was ask a bystander and they got the same answers just as quickly.
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saphfyred 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-05-05, 02:57 AM (EST)
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104. "RE: guardian angels" |
ITA.. (newbie.. sorry).. but I am tired of all of the complaints about Romber's guides. Anyone else could easily do the same thing, and not only that, but as others have pointed out, just asking local people around you often gives the same answers as taking someone with you the whole way, and all the teams do THAT. The "guide" idea is really the same thing, just easier if you take someone along.I can understand the criticism about Rob's ethics in other areas, but for this? No, this is perfectly ethical, and its very close to what teams have always done. Its just more resourceful than that, by keeping someone with you, rather than trying to ask different random people for help in place after place like the teams usually do.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-19-05, 07:38 PM (EST)
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62. "Here's the answer..." |
I clearly recall it being said that the flight in question was delayed.
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Wacko Jacko 2438 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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04-20-05, 10:25 AM (EST)
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63. "RE: Here's the answer..." |
I would not say being manipulated for Rb and Amber but for Meredith and Gretchen. Lastnight's episode was aperfect example. Rob and Amber cranked and were first to the finish line. They received their clue and what was the clue for train tickets that bunched everyone up again. Meredith and Gretchen were so far behind that it made everything all 5 teams did up to that point pointless. And Meredith and Gretchen should've been eliminated at the 'pitstop'. I am so tired of Meredith and Gretchen. I think they should make them finish the race on that 700 pound Elephant!
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Boat 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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04-26-05, 02:06 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Yes this game is rigged. Rob and Amber are being set up to win and they are given prizes everytime they come in first. CBS is planning a special on their wedding also. CBS must think we are all stupid not to see what's going on
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wolfeman401 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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04-30-05, 12:32 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Did anyone else notice that after climbing the ladder both Uchenna and Gretchen had a difficult time finding a key. Then along comes Rob and there is a key hanging right at the top of the steps ... how convenient. Ron also had a hard time finding a key. I find it hard to believe that the first two people did not see a key right in front of their faces, and Rob did. This game is definitly rigged for Rob and Amber to win.
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trudy 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-30-05, 12:40 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I think the difference is that 3 contestants started looking for the key once they got on the roof. 1 contestant started looking for the key the minute he rounded the top flight of the stairs.
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dragonfire36 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-04-05, 00:10 AM (EST)
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74. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Did you notice that the key uchenna found was only 1 piller past robs so they were not looking that hard
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maxsy1 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-03-05, 10:15 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I TOTALLY AGREE with you!! Lets forget prizes or not....I have a beef with with "any" survivor or other celebrity type person participating in race!!!! Talk about unfair!! Because they are so known, evryone goes out of their way to help them!! THATS what sucks!! This USED to be my favorite REALITY show until this season. If Rob and Amber win, I vow to NEVER, EVER watch the show again!!!!!!!! maxsy1
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-04-05, 08:04 AM (EST)
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76. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I'm glad you feel better now, but it still isn't true. The prizes are predetermined, and always have been. The show isn't racist or anti-gay. Why would they cast all sorts of people if it were?
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rachetp 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-04-05, 09:55 AM (EST)
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79. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
It has been a bit tiresome watching Romber win over and over.Credit to them for being in it. But I have had a feeling that there are just too many coincidences where they are concerned (or favourtism). It is also disappointing that they also win all the prizes. Whenever someone else comes in first I predictably comment to my husband...oh no prize, didn't see that coming...ha ha.
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Steph_Fan 473 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-04-05, 12:54 PM (EST)
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80. "Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
Hi all,I was getting a little tired of the debate over preferences, favoritism, or conspiracies regarding Rob and Amber's good luck and prizes on TAR. So, here is so information on the laws that govern TAR and all other U.S. game shows. The link here is to various ammendments that were passed in 1960 to the Communicatins Act of 1934 in response to the fixing of the TV game Quiz Show. http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000509----000-.html Here are the relevant snippets: Section 509: (a) Influencing, prearranging, or predetermining outcome It shall be unlawful for any person, with intent to deceive the listening or viewing public— (1) To supply to any contestant in a purportedly bona fide contest of intellectual knowledge or intellectual skill any special and secret assistance whereby the outcome of such contest will be in whole or in part prearranged or predetermined. (3) To engage in any artifice or scheme for the purpose of prearranging or predetermining in whole or in part the outcome of a purportedly bona fide contest of intellectual knowledge, intellectual skill, or chance. Also, for historical information on the Quiz Show scandal, click here: Quiz and Game Shows
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kvasir 51 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-04-05, 01:13 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
the art of breaking the law is not to be proven guilty. That's what lawyers are for.
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kvasir 51 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-04-05, 01:33 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
money is power. Best lawyers, bigger bribes.
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Steph_Fan 473 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-04-05, 01:34 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
Yeah, there would have to be plenty of people who work for CBS, Travelocity, or the pitstop locations where the prizes were given out who would know if they were pre-determined or decided based on who was in the lead. Surely someone would give up the information. CBS is a major network that would obviously love to keep broadcasting TAR. Why would they risk all that just to give Rob and Amber a few trips?
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Dakota 5819 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-04-05, 02:40 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
Whoever violates subsection (a) of this section shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. Wow. $10,000. Do ya think CBS/TAR/Burnett could afford to pay that fine? I'm not saying they are breaking this law, but the debate over whether or not they would break this law, given the stiff penalty, is moot. I also think they should give a prize for the 1st place team on each leg of the race, to avoid this controversy, not to mention that any team coming in first on any leg probably deserves some reward. It also keeps people pushing for first place, not just trying to avoid last. More drama. Higher ratings. Charter Member: Club Anti-DAW
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Gemini6 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-04-05, 07:38 PM (EST)
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94. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
I'm new here so I'm sorry about dragging this subject on.. Having said that, my question is: In all of the episodes of TAR, has the 1st place team won a prize for every single leg? If not, how is it decided which leg deserves a prize and which doesn't. I signed on to this site because I was concerned about the inequity I noticed in Uchenna and Joyce not receiving prizes 2 weeks in a row, followed by a prize again being awarded to romber. I don't know whether it is motivated by greed, prejudice or chance, but no one can deny that it definitely has the smell of inequality at the very least
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Steph_Fan 473 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-04-05, 07:56 PM (EST)
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96. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
>I'm new here so I'm sorry >about dragging this subject on.. >Having said that, my question >is: In all of >the episodes of TAR, has >the 1st place team won >a prize for every single >leg? No, and it is supposed to be by chance. But this is why people are upset: Rob and Amber have won prizes for all four of their first-place finishes. I believe 3 trips and the home entertainment system last night. Debbie and Bianca won $10,000 each on the first leg, and Ron and Kelly won on the Travelocity gnome leg (even though Joyce and Uchenna arrived first). Lynn and Alex definitely did not get a prize on the leg they won (I believe that is what started this conversation), and Joyce and Uchenna didn't get it on either one. I don't remember about the other leg Ron and Kelly won. Maybe someone else does. No one else has finished first. Rob and Amber have 4 of the 9 top finishes.
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-04-05, 09:50 PM (EST)
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100. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
Ray and Deanna ( anyone remember them?) won a pair of SUV's.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-05, 04:31 PM (EST)
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124. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
They seem to have combined two legs into one. They show Ray and Deanna being eliminated in the same leg they used the Fast Forward. New from Sigs by Syren!!
Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-
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saphfyred 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-05-05, 01:11 AM (EST)
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103. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law" |
I'm new here too, Gemini, but I don't see or believe in any team-favoritism playing into the prizes. They are pre-determined, and as far as U&J go, one of the prizes they didn't get was connected to those gnomes, which were collected way in advance, and no one had a clue who would win the leg at that point.As far as Romber goes, yes, they ARE lucky, and they always have been. On this show and on Survivor both. Luck does actually work for some people, and for them, it seems to work like crazy when they are together. I don't think that's the only or main reason why they are doing well though. They have the same three forces in their favor in this show as they had in Survivor A/S... A combination of skill, luck, and the inexplicable (let me think of the right words) "lack of appropriate competitiveness?" from the other people on the show when it should be obvious to everyone that not only are they the major competition, but that everything should be done to eliminate them, and no one ever does it.
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brunette 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-04-05, 07:51 PM (EST)
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95. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Not sure how the 1st leg with the $ works, but the other legs are advertising for the prizes being given away.Think of it this way: CBS wants to give prizes, but doesn't want to shell out with their own cash or perhaps only part of it. How can they do this? One way, is to get companies to buy into their show and give away their product to the winners of a leg. So far so good. The ad guy or gal starts pitching the idea to a variety of companies to see what they can get for the show. Let's say, a travel company, like expedia wants to give away four trips and they want legs 1, 5, 6 and 9 to highlight their product. Negotiation begins and boom, bada, bing...CBS has prizes for the racers and expedia has advertising for four legs. Some years they might get products for each leg and other years not. Or quite possibly at the beginning of each season they figure out which legs will have prizes and which ones won't when they amend the rules of the race. It seems quite likely that the prizes and the legs are determined ahead of time as companies like to negotiate when that product can be given away. Seriously doubt that CBS or anyone else is stacking the deck for anyone's benefit. Rob and Amber ask for help all the time and because they are attractive and ask nicely they typically receive the help they need. Have you not heard of "ask and you shall receive"? Of course, it doesn't hurt that people have seen them on TV before. Since I do not watch Survivor I would not be a fan to help them without them asking for help. Based on the way they ask for help, I probably would help them as they come across as friendly and agreeable and lost.
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Gemini6 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-04-05, 08:09 PM (EST)
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97. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
As far as the "helping hand" goes, I don't have any problem with that. Sure, being a "Survivor" contestant has probbaly helped them in gaining assistance, but I know for a fact that in previous races other contestants have asked for, and received, help from locals. With these elaborate and obvious setups and locations for the various tasks, as well as people running around with cameramen following them, people have to know that something "unusual" is going on and most people would love to have even a passing connection to something that smacks of "television", regardless of whether or not the recognize the participants. My only concern was about the impropriety, perceived or real, of the prizes. It smells bad and at the very least CBS could afford to pay a little bit out of pocket to promote a little more fairness.
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trudy 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-04-05, 08:29 PM (EST)
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98. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Well, you should be happy to hear that there is a prize for comming in first in the final leg. A million bucks. But I suppose if all the conspiracy theories hold up it will only be awarded if R/A win, right?
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Gemini6 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-04-05, 09:50 PM (EST)
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99. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
:p Apparently you've had enough of this conversation. As much as I can understand that, being snide doesn't change a thing. If R/A win, they win, and congratulations to them. I have nothing against them. Nuff said.
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trudy 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-04-05, 11:24 PM (EST)
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101. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Sorry, I didn't mean to aim that at you specifically. This is bashers, it's who we are, it's what we do, snide, snarky, sarcastic and sassy.
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-04-05, 11:49 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Well you have to admit this isn't the first conversation about how the game is "fixed" for Rob and Amber whenever they win a prize.No offense to our newer members who haven't yet seen these posts, but they've been popping up here for weeks. And though we try to be patient, there is only so much 'conspiracy talk' a person can handle, only so much explaining of the way the show works, that one can do. If anyone thinks I'm being snotty, I am sorry, I don't mean to be. But I'm not kidding about the "CBS fixed the show" type posts. Just look at the first 3 pages of this forum, there are many of them. Welcome to all new folks! I hope you decide to stay and join the conversations, and that you stay beyond this season to the next. It is a fun place! Trudy is right, snarky and sassy and sarcastic is often the tone for Bashers, we mean no offense. Our main purpose is to have fun.
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Gemini6 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-05-05, 04:32 AM (EST)
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105. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
No offense taken. I was feeling a lttle snarky myself earlier. And I plan on staying around. I'm sure this is a lot of fun, and I hope to add to it.
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BigGuy2her 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-06-05, 02:00 PM (EST)
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110. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
How can you not say the show is rigged? Rob and Amber were picked by the powers that be, instead of applying for the race like everyone else. They have taken the place of another couple who applied to be on the show the right way. These two were hand-picked to boost the ratings, to play their usual game of dirtiness, cheating, lying, anything goes, leaving people injured on the ground, etc. The producers wanted these two in the race so we would have someone to hate and cheer when/if they are eliminated. Not too soon-so the ratings will be high. And so, by pre-selecting these two for the race, they are changing their own rules of the show (how to enter), and once you’ve cross that line, who’s to say they’re not “fixing” other small items so we’d hate them even more. After all, they do so seem to get most of the camera shots.If the producers wanted Rob and Amber that bad, then have a show just for previous reality show contestants (Survivor, Big Brother, Apprentice, etc). Why bend the rules?
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Spidey 6259 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-06-05, 04:09 PM (EST)
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111. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
How can you not say the show is rigged?Because it's not. A LOT of teams on reality shows are chosen by methods other than the normal application process. Haven't you heard all the stories of contestants who are approached at the place of work (ie the Belly bar) or from producers having seen their modeling head shots or have seen them on other (usually game) shows? I don't believe there have been too many an all-"applicant" casts on any reality show since the beginning of the genre. This is nothing new. Besides, Romber approached TAR and not the other way around. Sure they were hand-picked, but so were all of the other teams. It's not as if it was a random draw from all applications.
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-06-05, 04:59 PM (EST)
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115. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Big Guy implied that everyone hates them and that's why CBS cast them so that we'd all cheer at their philimination. I was just checking to see if everyone hated them. What are you, some kind of Hippie Chick?
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dirob 92 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-07-05, 10:44 PM (EST)
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118. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Hi Buggy and Spidey!I hate Rob and Amber. I hate Romber for not winning the $10,000 x 2 in the beginning leg cuz the TAR guys wrecked the wrong truck back to town and caused traffic in the wrong section of town so they couldn't beat DebBianca who are so clean they didn't take money from the producers to "slow down a bit". I hate Romber for not winning the Toyota RAV4's cuz Ray took the money from CBS to NOT take the Fast Forward and take a dive, but slimey as he is he did anyway and thus are 2 SUV's richer! I hate Romber for having the TAR production personnel plant "silent but explosive landmines" in Africa so that the Brothers' humvee would flip over and Romber could drive right on by with glee. I hate Romber for forgetting that the Gnome with the Travelocity prize was the one in the basement window not the one by the water as was tipped off to them by that suspicious guy at the airport hanging out by the lost luggage counter...did anyone catch him to? He had a red and yellow vertically striped shirt on! Oh how I hate those two! Oh the humanity...the humanity...
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trudy 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-06-05, 04:53 PM (EST)
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114. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
Lex, Lex, Lex - please stop already.
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anotherkim 14420 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-06-05, 08:27 PM (EST)
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117. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
to play their usual game of dirtiness, cheating, lying, anything goes, leaving people injured on the ground, etc. You obviously watched a different few Survivors than I did because I don't remember any of the tactics that you listed being used by Rob or Amber other than an anything goes attitude which, I might add, is what most people want in a winner of Survivor. As for the rest of the point you are trying to make, hello, welcome to "reality" televsion. It's a business. One that is designed to make money. Lots of it. Producers do this all the time, as Spidey pointed out. If you think the average schmo has a snowball's chance in hell of getting on one of these shows by simply putting in an application or sending in a video, then please let me talk to you about some excellent real estate investment oppotunities that available for you online. After all, it is The Amazing Race, not the Amazing Block Party--Vardis
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margox 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-09-05, 09:36 AM (EST)
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120. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I agree. Does anyone really think it was a coincidence that their Survivor series was being shown while they were in one country or that they just happened to be on a magazine cover. It is all marketing and has a feeling of being totally contrived now. I admit they work well together and he works all the angles. Next time they should do a series with just million dollar winners. He commandeers people to help him, are they planted? "You are coming with us and you are staying with us and you are not to help anyone else OKAY? There has been a great loss of credibility this year. Are we being set up to see them in another show? If they win it will be a big yawn.
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edc3746 14 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-09-05, 03:06 PM (EST)
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123. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I agree with you Steph Fan. It has nothing to do with being deserving! When CBS cast this show they did not set out to find the most deserving people. They set out to make good television...and have undeniably succeeded in doing so. I believe CBS casting Romber had NOTHING to do with Rob or Amber personally, but had everything to do with a smart business decision. When CBS looks at Romber they see $$$. That's the bottom line. They don't care about Rob & Amber's feelings (and I don't mean to sound harsh towards CBS - In fact I'm sure they actually do care about people's feelings - but that is not the priority here) they want a bigger fan base, better ratings, more $$$. It's not personal...It's just business.and btw- I have a feeling CBS execs were cringing everytime Romber would come in first on a prize leg because they were afraid of how it was going to look to the viewers, but that's just the way it worked out. There is NO WAY this show is fixed. You hear Phil saying things about barely making it to pitstops before the first place team. They have way to much to worry about already, muchless trying to organize the hiring of plants to be there if a team is to fall behind, or have an airline hold a plane so Romber can get on, or whatever else they are being accused of. Romber is awesome, they run a great race, they are smart, and they take risks that pay off(most of the time). Hope they win it all!
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Steph_Fan 473 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-09-05, 06:37 PM (EST)
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126. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
So well stated EDC. Thanks!
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bambi27 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-11-05, 06:45 PM (EST)
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132. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
I have thought for weeks that there seems to be some sort of discrimination. Especially that Joyce and Ushena and Alex and Lyn didn't win any prizes at all. Even with Joyce and Uchena winning twice in a row. But last night I am positive that there was some interference.Rob and Amber were on the plane, ready to win it all in Miami. The connector had unhooked and the doors were closed. All of a sudden Uchena and Joyce were allowed to get on!!!! Come on now. I love those 2 and was THRILLED they won, but I have flown all over the place for years and that has never happened. Late people are only allowed on if the connector is still attached. Unless it was good editing. Anyway if it was true that Rob and Amber were helped all along, it is fitting that Joyce and Uchena were helped at the end. To prove my point - remember when the teams were looking for a key in Istanbul on top of a castle? Rob came right out the door and there was the key, not 2 steps ahead of him. We watched replays of it and did not see that key with any other team. That started me on the whold theory. I do believe that people knew them in other countries though. And perhaps the producers/cameramen helped them out to stay in longer. But one thing we all have to admit is that "Romber" brought huge excitement to this already exciting game. and brought it all up to another level. It was thrilling and I loved (sometimes hated) every last second of it. Can't wait for the family one. If you have every travelled with children you will know what I mean. Bring on The Amazing Race 8!!!!!!!
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-05, 11:02 AM (EST)
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129. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?" |
no, I'm saying that a buncha folks on this particular thread, with low DAW counts, do appear to have not read nay of the other threads regarding teams getting help, R/A driving past the brothers' wreck, etc. New from Sigs by Syren!!
Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-
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