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"favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
i have been watching the amazing race for the past 6 seasons and I have never had the feeling that the game is kinda being "manipulated" until tonight's episode. the brothers went to get their tickets at 9:25 a.m. , they had to walk all the way to the tarmac to the plane, settle down and the flight was at 9:30...and still rob and amber caught that plane?

and how come when lynn and alex came first last week, there wasn't a prize given to them? if i am not mistaken, that was a first for the amazing race. and on tonight's episode, we all know it was rob and amber who came first and suddenly...hello...they win something? you must admit that was unfair!

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 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... coffeegrrl 03-23-05 1
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Earl Colby Pottinger 03-23-05 3
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... GottaLoveTAR 03-23-05 2
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Earl Colby Pottinger 03-23-05 4
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Momobing 04-08-05 51
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Dakota 04-08-05 52
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... waldo555 04-08-05 53
 Moving to Bashers IceCat 03-23-05 5
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... renegadetx 03-23-05 6
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Drive My Car 03-23-05 7
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... newsomewayne 03-23-05 11
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... nailbone 03-23-05 21
               RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Dizwiz 03-23-05 25
                   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... nailbone 03-23-05 27
                       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Dizwiz 03-24-05 36
                   Make it five! arturbars 03-23-05 28
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... dirob 03-24-05 33
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Dizwiz 03-24-05 37
 No on the latter, maybe on the form... realitybites 03-23-05 8
   RE: No on the latter, maybe on the ... happjack2002 03-23-05 9
   RE: No on the latter, maybe on the ... dragonflies 03-23-05 10
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... HobbsofMI 03-23-05 12
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... HistoryDetective 03-23-05 16
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... PepeLePew13 03-23-05 19
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... HobbsofMI 03-23-05 23
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... watermelon 03-23-05 24
               RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... PepeLePew13 03-23-05 26
                   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... HobbsofMI 03-23-05 29
 Charter Flight trigirl 03-23-05 13
   RE: Charter Flight trigirl 03-23-05 14
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... kcgenn 03-23-05 15
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Robfather 03-23-05 17
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... TDeniseS 03-23-05 18
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... trudy 03-23-05 20
               RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Robfather 03-23-05 22
                   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Robotext 03-23-05 30
                       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Smooth23 03-23-05 31
                           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... watermelon 03-24-05 34
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... kvasir79 03-31-05 46
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... jericho28 03-23-05 32
 So what's new? Breezy 03-24-05 35
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... kittykat_08 03-30-05 38
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... trudy 05-02-05 68
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... kvasir79 03-30-05 39
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... ginger 03-30-05 40
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Cygnus X1 03-30-05 41
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... nailbone 03-30-05 42
               RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... kvasir79 03-31-05 43
                   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... waldo555 03-31-05 44
                       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... kvasir79 03-31-05 45
                       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... dirob 05-03-05 69
                   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Cygnus X1 03-31-05 47
                       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... kvasir79 04-01-05 50
                   guardian angels kittykat_08 04-01-05 48
                       RE: guardian angels kvasir79 04-01-05 49
                           RE: guardian angels GameOver3 04-08-05 54
                               RE: guardian angels ARnutz 04-08-05 55
                                   RE: guardian angels Ruthless 04-08-05 56
                                       RE: guardian angels kvasir 04-10-05 59
                               RE: guardian angels Katesgram 05-10-05 131
                       RE: guardian angels kvasir 05-04-05 83
                           RE: guardian angels Tahj 05-04-05 86
                               RE: guardian angels saphfyred 05-05-05 104
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... MasterTech 04-08-05 57
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Drive My Car 04-09-05 58
 Question Drive My Car 04-10-05 60
   RE: Question Momobing 04-11-05 61
   RE: Question cahaya 05-03-05 70
 Here's the answer... IceCat 04-19-05 62
   RE: Here's the answer... Wacko Jacko 04-20-05 63
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Boat 04-26-05 64
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... wolfeman401 04-30-05 65
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... trudy 04-30-05 66
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... CouchTater 04-30-05 67
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... dragonfire36 05-04-05 74
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... maxsy1 05-03-05 71
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Mere 05-03-05 72
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... dirob 05-03-05 73
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... kvasir 05-04-05 75
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Drive My Car 05-04-05 76
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... landruajm 05-04-05 77
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Drive My Car 05-04-05 78
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Spidey 05-04-05 90
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... rachetp 05-04-05 79
   Favoritism and Game Show Law Steph_Fan 05-04-05 80
       RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law kvasir 05-04-05 81
           RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Tahj 05-04-05 82
               RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law kvasir 05-04-05 84
                   RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Tahj 05-04-05 85
                       RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law kvasir 05-04-05 87
                           RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Tahj 05-04-05 89
                       RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Steph_Fan 05-04-05 88
                           RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Dakota 05-04-05 91
                               RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Steph_Fan 05-04-05 92
                                   RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Dakota 05-04-05 93
                                       RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Gemini6 05-04-05 94
                                           RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Steph_Fan 05-04-05 96
                                               RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Drive My Car 05-04-05 100
                                                   RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law Steph_Fan 05-05-05 106
                                                       RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law nailbone 05-09-05 124
                                           RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law saphfyred 05-05-05 103
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... brunette 05-04-05 95
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Gemini6 05-04-05 97
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... trudy 05-04-05 98
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Gemini6 05-04-05 99
               RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... trudy 05-04-05 101
                   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Drive My Car 05-04-05 102
                       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Gemini6 05-05-05 105
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... anotherkim 05-05-05 107
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Spidey 05-05-05 108
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... anotherkim 05-06-05 109
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... BigGuy2her 05-06-05 110
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Spidey 05-06-05 111
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Drive My Car 05-06-05 112
               RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Spidey 05-06-05 113
                   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Drive My Car 05-06-05 115
                       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... dirob 05-07-05 118
                           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Drive My Car 05-08-05 119
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... trudy 05-06-05 114
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Devious Weasel 05-06-05 116
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... anotherkim 05-06-05 117
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... margox 05-09-05 120
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... kbh21 05-09-05 121
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Steph_Fan 05-09-05 122
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... edc3746 05-09-05 123
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Steph_Fan 05-09-05 126
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... bambi27 05-11-05 132
 RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... nailbone 05-09-05 125
   RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Steph_Fan 05-09-05 127
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Dakota 05-09-05 128
       RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... nailbone 05-10-05 129
           RE: favoritism on the amazing race ... Dakota 05-10-05 130

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coffeegrrl 31 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Actually, there Have been episodes in past TARs where the 1st place teams don't win a thing.
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3. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Yes, I saw that as going back to the original format, but personally I like there to be a prize for every first place. In the last TAR teams like Lori and Bolo who I never expected to finish the race but who I did like still got a prize. And the team I wanted to win still walked away with four good trips to bring some joy and relaxation to thier life after they got married.

Even this race D&B whom I like if many others did not, left the race with $10,000 each. It made me feel better about they losing because at-least they have some reward for thier hard work.

Earl Colby Pottinger

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2. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Seems more like a coinkydink to me.
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4. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Now if you want to talk Favoritism. Why were R&A allowed on the 9:30 flight when they arrived at 9:25?

Any other time when someone is this close they rarely if ever hold the flight. If they did not have to check thier luggage I can still see it as a simple walk on, but even on a charter flight (was this one, it appeared so) getting extra luggage stowed is a major delay.

Earl Colby Pottinger

PS. At-least Rob amitted he won due to luck this time.

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51. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
The simplest thing for TAR producers to do would have been to show how R&A were able to make that plane on the recap episode. Did they do that?

No.

Why not?

I hope that when/if R&A are eliminated, they will be interviewed about this point. It seems too suspicious somehow and especially irritating since it followed the episode where Rob showed his true colors and quit the task.

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52. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
CBS knows that Rob and Amber are a draw - love 'em or hate 'em. And even reality shows are "produced". An example is "confessionals". These people aren't just talking about what's on their minds, they're asked questions and the answers are probably edited. We all know that they can make someone look like a villian and then later show us scenes to make the person more likeable. That's show biz. What irks me is that they've emphasized Rob the schemer, the liar, the con artist, and then show Amber's campaign to make them America's Sweethearts. "Angels have been helping us all the way." "We're the luckiest people in the world." "You got it baby." "Good job, baby." "Baby" "Baby" "Baby" (Does she ever use his name?)
And of course, every time Lynn or Alex utter something about Romber, that gets edited in. This seems to be more the Rob and Amber show than The Amazing Race. Charter Member: Club Anti-DAW
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53. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"

I don't understand why this point angers people so much. Is it so hard to beleive that Romber got to the gate at 9:30, and the plane still hadn't left. Then the crappy airline that it was decided to hold the plane for 4 (ROmber + crew) full fare paying customers. CBS didn't use all their clout in the South American airline industry to hold the plane. It was just a little behind schedule. Get a grip people.
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5. "Moving to Bashers"
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6. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
The game is definately being manipulated. CBS should be scared because the big parties we have had in the past (I work in a nightclub and the race is a weekly draw) are going to stop. The customers have never felt so raped until the Rob/Amber fiasco. This show used to deserve the EMMY's. Now it has become "Springer".
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7. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Their ratings are good, why would CBS worry about your weekly parties being called off?

The Rob/Amber fiasco?

They beat the other teams that hate them and bad mouth them, and that is a fiasco? I'm confused.



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11. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Make that two confused peeps.


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21. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Three.

Raped?


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25. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Four.

On a positive note, however, the punctuation on this board is (for the most part) spotless.


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27. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
On a positive note, however, the punctuation on this board is (for the most part) spotless.

This is really becoming a sickness, isn't it?




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36. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
You have no idea, Boner. I drive Mr. Wiz crazy.


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28. "Make it five!"
I don't know why all of the Romber-haters complain all the time. I thought it was great to see the looks on the faces of four teams who were celebrating beating Romber. I was laughing for about 5 minutes straight

I think Romber make it a great television.

And i don't see how you can blame producers of the show for favoring Rob and Amber, after all is not it up the airlines to let or not to let anyone on the plane?

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33. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Count me in as the sixth confused person.

I hope my punctuation hasn't ruined the streak.

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37. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
LOL...so far, so good! And welcome to the boards, you little newbie, you.


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8. "No on the latter, maybe on the former"
The producers give out whatever prizes they like (in consideration for advertising, usually) on whatever legs they like. Perhaps this was a predetermined non prize winning leg. Or perhaps Phil's good news was edited out. They've skipped legs & prizes before, and it's not a big deal if they did it here.

On the flights to Buenos Aires, these were set up strangely. For charters on TAR, there's usually a definite number of seats that each team must sign up for. If there's room for four teams and you're team number 5, that's tough. The departure times were suspicious also. The top four teams weren't going to miss the 9:30 flight unless they had major problems. And the bottom three teams weren't going to make it. The only team helped by a 9:30 departure was... you guessed it. In this regard, I don't blame you for feeling that this was manipulated. I had the same thoughts myself. I don't like it, but I'm willing to let this slide... for now.

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9. "RE: No on the latter, maybe on the former"
The flight to Buenos Aires wasnt a charter since there where locals on the flight so it seems the only two flights between those two cities where at those times. Next its about even for teams just getting on a flight and most of the time teams that get shut out are in Asia where they are more strict on the rules and take into account that the airport last night was tiny it wasnt like major airports where it can take 45 minutes to get from ticketing to the gate.
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10. "RE: No on the latter, maybe on the former"
In the video clips on the website there is a clip where L/A mention that they didn't win a prize, but since they beat R/A that was good enought for them.
I still smell setup about the planet though. Just MHO.

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12. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
This whole ep left a bad taste in my mouth. It was boring and not very competitive. You knew the first five times had a 5 hour lead so they were not going so why even care what happen to them.

The last three teams were like nails on a chalk board. Please get all these teams off as soon as possible.

The tasks for the last 3 episodes have been very simple except for the 4 pounds of meat. The horses could almost walk and make it in 45 seconds. Find a main in a rain coat when he is the only person there – oh..that’s hard and the train station is right across the street. And can we test the equipment out before the contestants use them. This is not how many boats can break down during normal operation it’s a race. Have we ever seen so much equipment breakdown that they set up?

I want to see a race and this is not a race.

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16. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
"The last three teams were like nails on a chalk board. Please get all these teams off as soon as possible."

I completely agree. I was SO hoping for a surprise double elimination by the end of episode 4!


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19. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
>And can we test the equipment out before
>the contestants use them.
>This is not how many
>boats can break down during
>normal operation it’s a race.
> Have we ever seen
>so much equipment breakdown that
>they set up?

To be fair, almost every season have had challenges where things broke down -- such as the Trabant cars in Hungary last season or various taxis/buses crapping out on their contestant passengers.

I seem to remember some people criticizing the challenges in the last couple of seasons as being really tough and physically demanding, making it difficult for some of the women and older folks to compete on the same level as the young and buff guys. They seem to have tried to tone down the challenges a little bit to make it more of a level playing field, and now we're hearing they're too easy? Not singling you out, Hobbs, as there's been others echoing these sentiments but you see what I mean...



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23. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Yes, we have had busses and other transportation between task break down but I don't remember so much equipment in a task break down and it's the first time I've heard that "the team gets a replacement but no time credit".

I've remember saying some were too hard physically but I think the fence is swinging too much the other way and I see what you mean. If you are going to lighten up the physical then make it mentally harder in the same task. Ride a horse but do a puzzle or something and not just around some barrels and put a stick through a ring.

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24. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I thought quite a few of those Hungarian Trabants broke down last season? At least as many as the number of boats that broke down in this last episode. And I don't think they received time credits either when their Trabants broke down. So yeah... it may not be fair that Racers don't get time credits when equipment/vehicles malfunction through no fault of their own, but that's what the rule has always been since as long as I can remember anyway, so it's not like they changed the rule last night just to allow Romber to get ahead of Lynn/Alex.

And no, I'm not on Romber's side... in fact, I hate Rob. But I also like to be honest and impartial as much as possible Which is why I hate Rob... I can't stand lies and dishonesty! (don't ask me why I watch and love this show, knowing that lies and dishonesty are part and parcel of it!)

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26. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Nope, none of the teams with a broken-down Trabant and having to wait for a replaced one (or in one case, wait for someone to come and get it running again) got any time credit. It's always been like that in past TARs so it's not exactly a "new" thing.



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29. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I missed a few ep's from last season so did not see it and yes there have been no time credits for things breaking down but it's the first time I've heard them announce it to us.


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13. "Charter Flight"
I think the term Charter Flight is not accurate. I think CBS\Bruckheimer are buying bulk seats on a particular plane. If you are a small airport\ airline in Mendoza, Argentina and CBS has purchased 20 seats on your plane, you hold the plane. No big deal. I think the Charter Times were set-up to add drama. Would Romber make it or not.

If you want to talk about 'fixes' in the game, look no further than Lori and Bolo's mysterious 2 am train in Budapest!

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14. "RE: Charter Flight"
More...

I love this timed charter flight stuff. Less bunching, less obnoxious people at the airport. More drama. Love it.

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15. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I totally agree!!! ROb and Amber won because they are cheating and manipulating the game.. (stealing cabs, paying bus drivers off, telling guards not to say anything) then not performing the task!! that's what the game is about...
what happened to the integrity of the show!!

THEN Lynn and ALex DON"T get a prize????????? WHat is that ALL about...

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17. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Not all first place finishers of each leg of the race have been given a prize. So, that is just dumb to get mad about. If you have been watching the show for very long, you would know that.

Rob and Amber are the only team that are concerned with how they are doing. Granted, they do love to get the other team's going, but that may be part of their strategy. They really have Lynn and Alex so focused on them, they dont even pay attention to what they are doing most of the time. Lynn and Alex are to the point of being obsessed with Rob and Amber. What I dont like is that they never even gave them a chance. That is just wrong.

I like the way that Romber is playing the game. I like the fact that they are not yelling at each other, which is VERY nice when you compare that to last season's teams. As far as what he is doing, no rules have been broken. I think it is just ridiculous that everyone bashes them for what they do, but conviently forget that all of it has been done before!

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18. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
>Not all first place finishers of >each leg of the race
>have been given a prize. >So, that is just dumb
>to get mad about. If >you have been watching the
>show for very long, you >would know that.
>
Lynn and Alex are >to the point of being
>obsessed with Rob and Amber. >What I dont like is
>that they never even gave >them a chance. That is
>just wrong.
>
>I like the way that Romber >is playing the game. >I think it is just >ridiculous that everyone bashes them
>for what they do, but >conviently forget that all of
>it has been done before!
>

Finally a voice of reason! There have been plenty of legs in which teams did not get prizes in the past.... so get over it people! How immature of Lynn and Alex to act so standoffish towards Rob and Amber..... I can't wait for those 2 beyotches to get eliminated. And the remark from "them" about STD...was that a freakin oxymoron or what? ROMBER is doing a great job and not being mean or nasty to each other or other teams. You could have bought that whole plane for a penny when ROMBER made that flight....I laughed for 5 minutes. How is CBS manipulating the show..... let me guess...by helping Rob carry 180 books at once or by helping him to decide to go another way down the river, or could it be by helping him complete that horse challenge like a PRO so they would make the plane....yeah that's it! As far as the plane goes.....you would be surprised at how far a little charm, and kindnes will take people....very far in this world. So maybe the reservationist wanted to help them..... whereas had it been some jerk or rude person (like Lynn and Alex), they would have said NO....... just something to think about.

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20. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I agree that part of Rob's luck can be attributed to his pleasant and easygoing attitude toward the locals. He isn't afraid to ask for help and he gets it because he's not the rushed, rude, demanding tourist. They want to help him because he comes across as a nice guy to them. It's that simple.

He's managed most tasks in an efficient way. The books are a good example. He started by saying they didn't have a lot of money so they should schlepp and not shop. Then told Amber to pick up books that were the same size if possible. Then stacked them like bricks so they wouldn't fall off the dolly. Cause if you remember right, he's a Construction guy. (shelter building ring a bell?) That wasn't luck, it was good planning.

They really haven't been quoted running the other teams down at all. L&A, R&D, S&P have said mean comments about the other teams, not just once but many times. I haven't heard R&A, U&J, B&G, G&M or R&K do that.

I know this is bashers so let me just add - Ray and Deanna stink at racing in general and Lynn & Alex are just becomming the recipients of the bad karma they send out.

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22. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Lynn >& Alex are just becomming
>the recipients of the bad
>karma they send out.


Exactly! If you go the official AR website and watch the video clips of L&A, they alwys talk about Romber! It is disgusting to see how obsessed L&A are with Romber. I hope they go soon!

Also, Rob is very courteous to the locals and so they help them. Unlike most of the others, espicially L&A, they get help and good directions by being polite!

I am 50/50 on them winning the million again. I would like to see J&U win it b/c of the bad things that have happened to them, but I dont think that it would be so bad if Romber won it either. If they run a good race, then why not?

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30. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
L & A are as obsessed with Romber as most people on these boards (myself included).

Were any of the teams this obsessed with Jonathan & Victoria in the last race?

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31. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
No, J&V only got passing comments, not entire whines.
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34. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I think Romber are annoying, but not downright bad enough people like J/V, which makes it fun to bash them. OTOH, J/V are so horrible... wel, Jon is... that it's not even fun to bash them. They are sooooooooooo beneath even being worth bashing. Do you get what I mean?
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46. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
>And the remark from "them" about STD...was that a freakin oxymoron or what?

Nope, look up what oxymoron means in the dictionary.

> ROMBER is doing a great job and not being mean or nasty to each
>other or other teams.

Romber has been nasty and manipulative to the other teams since day one. Ever since they bribed the security guard on day one and they'd do it again and again to interfere other people's game. They'd then go back and accuse others treating them badly as soon as others retaliate or have discovered of their little schemes.

>As far as the plane goes.....you would be surprised at how far a
>little charm, and kindnes will take people....very far in this
>world.

I wouldn't be surprised how far a little bribe and planted locals would go.... just something to think about.


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32. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
>I totally agree!!! ROb and Amber
>won because they are cheating
>and manipulating the game.. (stealing
>cabs, paying bus drivers off,
>telling guards not to say
>anything) then not performing the
>task!! that's what the game
>is about...
>what happened to the integrity of
>the show!!
>
>THEN Lynn and ALex DON"T get
>a prize????????? WHat is that
>ALL about...


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35. "So what's new?"
Favoritism is cried every season. Lori/Bolo's own train last year is one example.

Time to just move along and realize that some things are going to happen in the race that looks fishy.


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38. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7? i think not"
so when something lucky happens to other teams you think think that it's mainly luck but if it happens to romber... "there must be favoritism!!!!! whaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!" <rolls eyes> if something lucky happens it happens. lets not be one sided here let us also consider the numerous times other teams have been lucky. it hasn't only happened to romber.
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68. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7? i think not"
U/J have had their share of luck. How lucky was it that U didn't have to take the time to shave his head? Not even a token shave was shown. Since they didn't appear to be that far ahead of the other racers did that 2nd (not) shaved head win the leg for them?

I also think U/J are being edited to be saints and honestly I'm pretty sick of seeing that. The mat chat thing has U calling the taxi driver an "idiot" among other things - proving he can shoot his mouth off at the locals in a given situation as well as Colin, yet everyone still thinks he's the nicest guy around. This week apparently we see J slip a little as well. What, not enjoying the scenery from a double decker?

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39. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I will go so far to say the very helpful locals were planted.
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40. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
You ever notice how Phil ALWAYS gets to the pit stop first? I think there's BLATANT favoritism. I mean, we never even see him performing a task!



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41. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
*snerk*

I bet you're going to call for Congress to act, aren't you?


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42. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
We're gonna get the Texas legislature to draft a bill.


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43. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
LAST EDITED ON 03-31-05 AT 06:45 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 03-31-05 AT 05:58 PM (EST)

You know you have no good argument when all you can come up with is some lame-azz irrelevant joke.

Why is this so hard to believe? The producers had already went to the countries to set up stops, challgenges, checked out transportation schedules. They've already hired so many locals to be part of the show. Doesn't take that much more money and effort to bribe some more locals to help out Romber, it certainly does help ratings when these "guardian angels" appear along the way. Certainly helps ratings when Romber stays on the race longer. Sometimes there's just no way Romber would finish where they were without help.

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44. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"

I hope the game is rigged so that Romber wins. That way we see more of Amber, she is such a hottie.
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45. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
uh huh... so Romber can ride their winning streak and onto the next CBS reality show. It's a win-win for the network.
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69. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Yeah and it will keep all these people with Amazing Conspiracy Theories alive and abuzz with more juicy stuff! And most especially a Romber win will keep these Amazing Conspiracy Theorists annoyed and traumatized, gnashing their teeth and wearing sack cloth crying out "Why God why?" for a very long time!

Go Rob and Amber!

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47. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
You know you have no good argument when all you can come up with is some lame-azz irrelevant joke.

Then I cordially invite you to the Off Topic forum for many more lame-azz irrelevant jokes!

Why is this so hard to believe? The producers had already went to the countries to set up stops, challgenges, checked out transportation schedules. They've already hired so many locals to be part of the show. Doesn't take that much more money and effort to bribe some more locals to help out Romber, it certainly does help ratings when these "guardian angels" appear along the way. Certainly helps ratings when Romber stays on the race longer. Sometimes there's just no way Romber would finish where they were without help.

You've put forth this theory. Fine. Anything else to back it up? We're not going to provide evidence that Bruck and company didn't bribe anyone; you can't prove a negative.

FTR, I'm no Romber fan, and I don't think they should have been on the show to begin with, but that's another thread. They are on the show, and they have celebrity status from being on Survivor, and that's that.

And as was pointed out last year, I doubt Bruck had enough money to hire all those Indian locals in TAR 5 to grope Christie and Nicole (for two) on the train, when so many others would gladly have done so for free. (Apologies to whomever said that.)


Or, as I said, get Congress involved, mmmkay?

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50. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Wouldn't it be fun though to have Bruck getting one of his CSI teams to figure it out?
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48. "guardian angels"
these so called guardian angels are nothing more than excited fans. come on have a little faith, bribery and cheating isnt always the case.
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49. "RE: guardian angels"
LAST EDITED ON 04-01-05 AT 01:39 AM (EST)

it may not "always" be the case, but i wish ppl stop being naive. Even at the Olympics there are dopping and rigged judges. And this is far from being the Olympics. It's show business, i'm sure CBS can do whatever they want.

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54. "RE: guardian angels"
CBS is definitely manipulating this race to keep Romber alive.

Never before have we seen so many magical locals jump out of nowhere to help teams, nor have we seen so many mysterious lucky breaks allowing Romber to catch up.

Its quite clear CBS is messing with this race. Everytime Romber falls behind, they have a mysterious helper show up to conviently help them get ahead. Not to mention the flight in Episode 4, when they shouldn't have gotten on.

IF Brian/Greg truly got there at 9:25 for the 9:30 flight, they should have been the very last team to get on. Depending on how close the plane was to where they bought the tickets, it probably took 5 minutes to get there, get their luggage situated and get their seats. They should have already been going down the runway, getting read to take off into the sky.

Its happened in the past with teams where they make it to a flight that is delayed, but in the case of TAR5, nearly every flight was delayed that season. Bowling Moms caught up in Episode 6 to a delayed flight and Charla/Mirna and Bowling Moms got screwed by flight delays. There were countless more delays that season that cost people their game, while only like one case helped a team out.

Romber's the only team to have all this magical help from nowhere and mysterious flight holdings to keep them in the top pack.

Also, I think its fishy that everytime Romber came in first, they won a trip or something. I mean, its not like they can't afford to take their own trips. Some of these other teams might not be able to afford to take vacations to Europe, Australia, Hawaii, Mexico, Jamaica, etc, and they really want to win those trips. Ron/Kelly and Lynn/Alex should call bullshit with CBS for not winning trips while money grubbing media whores Romber have 3 trips.

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55. "RE: guardian angels"
Nah, CBS isn't doing it. It's that horseshoe up Rob's butt.


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56. "RE: guardian angels"
" Favoritism is cried every season. Lori/Bolo's own train last year is one example."
....................
When I saw that episode, I noticed other people on the platform waiting for a train. Bolo would have seen them arriving and figured there must be a train soon, so he went and enquired again, and lo and behold, there was an earlier train. I don't think it was conjured up by TPTB, I think it was just inefficient station staff not knowing about the 2.00 am train.

I do wonder about the last minute getting of flights though. I'm sure TPTB have made block bookings for a certain number of teams on flights. Freddy and Kendra "only just" made the flight from Addis Ababa to Dubai to Columbo. Yeah right, there was only one possible flight that day so TPTB would have already had sufficient seats booked and probably even asked that the plane be held for them in case they were running late.

I often wonder about the pit stop arrival and departure times as well. They tell us so and so arrived at 2.31 pm, so they will be leaving at 2.31 am. How do we know they arrived at 2.31 pm, and how do we know it is really 2.31 am when they leave? TAR1 had a clock at the mat. It disappeared for TAR2 and has never been seen again.

I believe in the last leg of TAR7, that the pit stop arrival times weren't mentioned, only the departure times, and this was because of a need to ensure everyone got through that leg before dark so they all had to leave early in the morning, which may not have been able to be achieved if they left 12 hours after they arrived. I'm sure the interval times between departures would have been maintained, but the overnight stay may have been considerably more or less than 12 hours.

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59. "RE: guardian angels"
certainly a hypothesis i have wondered about. It'd take lots of dedication to keep track of their departure times and see if they correspond to the 12-hour rest period compared with their arrival (from observation of how much daylight there was).

For example, it'd be obvious if the team arrived after dark and they got to depart very early in the morning before sunrise.

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131. "RE: guardian angels"
"Ron/Kelly and
Lynn/Alex should call bullshit with
CBS for not winning trips
while money grubbing media whores
Romber have 3 trips. "


At least Ron and Kelly got "theirs" when they brought in the winning gnome! They can take several trips. But I still think it isn't fair that Joyce ad Uchenna didn't get anything for coming in first- I just hope they go on the win the whole thing!


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83. "RE: guardian angels"
again, the guardian angel has decented on British soil. Romber could NO WAY solved all the puzzles if it weren't for the guide. Every single answer was provided by the guide. They have nothing that make them legitimate winners. They are totally clueless, pardon the pun. For god sakes, Rob doesn't even know what a gnome is!
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86. "RE: guardian angels"
You're forgetting that all Ron and Kelly had to do was ask a bystander and they got the same answers just as quickly.

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104. "RE: guardian angels"
ITA.. (newbie.. sorry).. but I am tired of all of the complaints about Romber's guides. Anyone else could easily do the same thing, and not only that, but as others have pointed out, just asking local people around you often gives the same answers as taking someone with you the whole way, and all the teams do THAT. The "guide" idea is really the same thing, just easier if you take someone along.

I can understand the criticism about Rob's ethics in other areas, but for this? No, this is perfectly ethical, and its very close to what teams have always done. Its just more resourceful than that, by keeping someone with you, rather than trying to ask different random people for help in place after place like the teams usually do.

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57. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
>the brothers
>went to get their tickets
>at 9:25 a.m. , they
>had to walk all the
>way to the tarmac to
>the plane, settle down and
>the flight was at 9:30...and
>still rob and amber caught
>that plane?

What you see in one hour (actually, closer to 43 minutes) has been edited down from dozens of hours of video. There is no clock showing elapsed time during the race, so you have absolutely ZERO idea how far ahead the brothers were in front of Romber. Editing makes it appear there was a large gap between the two teams, but there is no way of knowing exactly how much time separated B/G and R/A.

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58. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I agree.
I think it is more a case of the editing being manipulated, than the actual race being fixed.


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60. "Question"
Do people really think that CBS would fix the show?
Honestly think that they would manipulate the outcome?
( not just the editing)

I am not bashing, I am asking.

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61. "RE: Question"
LAST EDITED ON 04-11-05 AT 04:58 AM (EST)

Wasn't CBS the network that used a fake memo on one of their "news" programs?

Just a point to ponder...

I'm not bashing either, I just thought it was an interesting point regarding the trustworthiness of a network and their concern for legalities.

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70. "RE: Question"
I seriously doubt CBS would rig the show in any way whatsoever. It would be a major PR disaster, not to mention a potentially huge lawsuit.

I do agree, though, that CBS slants the editing (but not the race), a subject that I started a new thread on a few days ago.

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62. "Here's the answer..."
I clearly recall it being said that the flight in question was delayed.
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63. "RE: Here's the answer..."
I would not say being manipulated for Rb and Amber but for Meredith and Gretchen. Lastnight's episode was aperfect example. Rob and Amber cranked and were first to the finish line. They received their clue and what was the clue for train tickets that bunched everyone up again. Meredith and Gretchen were so far behind that it made everything all 5 teams did up to that point pointless. And Meredith and Gretchen should've been eliminated at the 'pitstop'. I am so tired of Meredith and Gretchen. I think they should make them finish the race on that 700 pound Elephant!
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64. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Yes this game is rigged. Rob and Amber are being set up to win and they are given prizes everytime they come in first. CBS is planning a special on their wedding also. CBS must think we are all stupid not to see what's going on
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65. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Did anyone else notice that after climbing the ladder both Uchenna and Gretchen had a difficult time finding a key. Then along comes Rob and there is a key hanging right at the top of the steps ... how convenient. Ron also had a hard time finding a key. I find it hard to believe that the first two people did not see a key right in front of their faces, and Rob did. This game is definitly rigged for Rob and Amber to win.
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66. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I think the difference is that 3 contestants started looking for the key once they got on the roof. 1 contestant started looking for the key the minute he rounded the top flight of the stairs.
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67. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Actually it seemed to me that Gretchen found the key fairly quickly considering that her and Meredith miss stuff on a regular basis.

I also don't think that Romber found that gnome as quick as some of the others, particularly Kelly and Ron. It could all be in the editing as well.

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74. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Did you notice that the key uchenna found was only 1 piller past robs so they were not looking that hard
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71. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I TOTALLY AGREE with you!! Lets forget prizes or not....I have a beef with with "any"
survivor or other celebrity type person participating in race!!!! Talk about unfair!!
Because they are so known, evryone goes out of their way to help them!! THATS what sucks!! This USED to be my favorite REALITY show until this season. If Rob and Amber win, I vow to NEVER, EVER watch the show again!!!!!!!! maxsy1
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72. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
That's it exactly!

Any celebrity-type person should not be participating unless ALL teams are celebrity-type people. That wouldn't be nearly as entertaining, either.

R/A received help because people recognized them. They would have already been eliminated w/o those people.

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73. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I'm not quite sure but i remember there to be only 2 or 3 times when it was mentioned that Rob and Amber were recognized as the Survivor guys and got help. one was in Latin Amercia with the American with local knowledge. And the other 2 times were in Africa with all the nurses hugging them but didn't really follow them and that one fan at the market who helped Amber. All other countries, Rob asked to be guided and appreciated it if they could guide them for as long as they were able to,

So I don't think their celebrity status has really been used to the hilt...but there's still the finale. Which would make all the Romber-hater's go apes#it if their celebrity status does carry them to finish line first.

Which by the way i hope they do!

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75. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
This is IT! three times coming in first and a prize every single time. The leg prize is SOOOOO not pre-determined. The prize is definitely given to a) heterosexual couple, b)white couple, and only to deserving team like ROMBER.

Thankyou, now i feel better.

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76. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I'm glad you feel better now, but it still isn't true. The prizes are predetermined, and always have been.
The show isn't racist or anti-gay. Why would they cast all sorts of people if it were?
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77. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Buggy, I'm shocked at you! It's so they can set up socioeconomically or culturally disadvantaged persons for the huge smackdowns that the producers feel they deserve, of course! It's not enough to just ignore them, you have to suck them in with the promise of good things, then cruelly crush their miserable hopes under the Jackboot of The Man!

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78. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Oh, well then there's that. *snicker*
Seriously Dood, go have a donut.

this conspiracy stuff makes me nuts!

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90. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Ok, it's time to whip this out again:



Now *I* feel better too.

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79. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
It has been a bit tiresome watching Romber win over and over.Credit to them for being in it. But I have had a feeling that there are just too many coincidences where they are concerned (or favourtism). It is also disappointing that they also win all the prizes. Whenever someone else comes in first I predictably comment to my husband...oh no prize, didn't see that coming...ha ha.
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80. "Favoritism and Game Show Law"
Hi all,

I was getting a little tired of the debate over preferences, favoritism, or conspiracies regarding Rob and Amber's good luck and prizes on TAR. So, here is so information on the laws that govern TAR and all other U.S. game shows. The link here is to various ammendments that were passed in 1960 to the Communicatins Act of 1934 in response to the fixing of the TV game Quiz Show.

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000509----000-.html

Here are the relevant snippets:

Section 509: (a) Influencing, prearranging, or predetermining outcome
It shall be unlawful for any person, with intent to deceive the listening or viewing public—
(1) To supply to any contestant in a purportedly bona fide contest of intellectual knowledge or intellectual skill any special and secret assistance whereby the outcome of such contest will be in whole or in part prearranged or predetermined.
(3) To engage in any artifice or scheme for the purpose of prearranging or predetermining in whole or in part the outcome of a purportedly bona fide contest of intellectual knowledge, intellectual skill, or chance.

Also, for historical information on the Quiz Show scandal, click here: Quiz and Game Shows

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81. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
well well, what's your point?

There's the law, and then there's reality. Otherwise prisons would be empty.

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82. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
Oh please. So your point is that you think the show is deliberately breaking the law?


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84. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
the art of breaking the law is not to be proven guilty. That's what lawyers are for.
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85. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
But what you are accusing them of is a blatant violation. How is it you think they wouldn't be caught?


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87. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
money is power. Best lawyers, bigger bribes.
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89. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
Well it's a moot point until some kind of legal action is taken. I don't believe there will be any because I don't think the've done anything wrong.


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88. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
Yeah, there would have to be plenty of people who work for CBS, Travelocity, or the pitstop locations where the prizes were given out who would know if they were pre-determined or decided based on who was in the lead. Surely someone would give up the information. CBS is a major network that would obviously love to keep broadcasting TAR. Why would they risk all that just to give Rob and Amber a few trips?
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91. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
Whoever violates subsection (a) of this section shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. Wow. $10,000. Do ya think CBS/TAR/Burnett could afford to pay that fine? I'm not saying they are breaking this law, but the debate over whether or not they would break this law, given the stiff penalty, is moot.

I also think they should give a prize for the 1st place team on each leg of the race, to avoid this controversy, not to mention that any team coming in first on any leg probably deserves some reward. It also keeps people pushing for first place, not just trying to avoid last. More drama. Higher ratings.

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92. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
>Whoever violates subsection (a) of this
>section shall be fined not
>more than $10,000 or imprisoned
>not more than one year,
>or both.
Wow.
> $10,000. Do ya
>think CBS/TAR/Burnett could afford to
>pay that fine? I'm
>not saying they are breaking
>this law, but the debate
>over whether or not they
>would break this law, given
>the stiff penalty, is moot.
>
Well, this was 1960 that the ammendment was made to the law, but I didn't feel like looking through the dozens of ammendments made since to see if the penalty amount has been increased.

But I agree that having more 1st place prizes would make it a better game.

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93. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
Even if the fine were much higher, the network and show can afford to pay it. And I believe they would do it if they felt their ratings and advertising dollars would benefit from it. If there is a contestant on TAR or any reality show that is bringing in viewers, the producers would certainly want to keep them on the show longer. My point is simply that the statue probably wouldn't be a deterrent.

While Romber may not be getting preferential treatment in any way on TAR, it's reasonable to wonder about it -- love them or hate them, they bring in viewers; they're Burnett's sweethearts. Along with the 1st place prize fiasco this season, some of the questions raised by viewers on this board have made me wonder. Having said that, let's not forget that Robb is very smart, athletic, and competitive and Amber hangs on to him real good. So their being top contenders is not surprising.
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94. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
I'm new here so I'm sorry about dragging this subject on.. Having said that, my question is: In all of the episodes of TAR, has the 1st place team won a prize for every single leg? If not, how is it decided which leg deserves a prize and which doesn't. I signed on to this site because I was concerned about the inequity I noticed in Uchenna and Joyce not receiving prizes 2 weeks in a row, followed by a prize again being awarded to romber. I don't know whether it is motivated by greed, prejudice or chance, but no one can deny that it definitely has the smell of inequality at the very least
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96. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
>I'm new here so I'm sorry
>about dragging this subject on..
>Having said that, my question
>is: In all of
>the episodes of TAR, has
>the 1st place team won
>a prize for every single
>leg?

No, and it is supposed to be by chance. But this is why people are upset: Rob and Amber have won prizes for all four of their first-place finishes. I believe 3 trips and the home entertainment system last night.

Debbie and Bianca won $10,000 each on the first leg, and Ron and Kelly won on the Travelocity gnome leg (even though Joyce and Uchenna arrived first). Lynn and Alex definitely did not get a prize on the leg they won (I believe that is what started this conversation), and Joyce and Uchenna didn't get it on either one.

I don't remember about the other leg Ron and Kelly won. Maybe someone else does.

No one else has finished first. Rob and Amber have 4 of the 9 top finishes.

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100. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
Ray and Deanna ( anyone remember them?) won a pair of SUV's.
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106. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
>Ray and Deanna ( anyone remember
>them?) won a pair of
>SUV's.

Oddly, the CBS leaderboard doesn't show them winning the leg they used the fast forward on. It shows Ron and Kelly. I guess they have gotten all hazy in my mind...

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124. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
They seem to have combined two legs into one. They show Ray and Deanna being eliminated in the same leg they used the Fast Forward.


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103. "RE: Favoritism and Game Show Law"
I'm new here too, Gemini, but I don't see or believe in any team-favoritism playing into the prizes. They are pre-determined, and as far as U&J go, one of the prizes they didn't get was connected to those gnomes, which were collected way in advance, and no one had a clue who would win the leg at that point.

As far as Romber goes, yes, they ARE lucky, and they always have been. On this show and on Survivor both. Luck does actually work for some people, and for them, it seems to work like crazy when they are together. I don't think that's the only or main reason why they are doing well though. They have the same three forces in their favor in this show as they had in Survivor A/S... A combination of skill, luck, and the inexplicable (let me think of the right words) "lack of appropriate competitiveness?" from the other people on the show when it should be obvious to everyone that not only are they the major competition, but that everything should be done to eliminate them, and no one ever does it.

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95. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Not sure how the 1st leg with the $ works, but the other legs are advertising for the prizes being given away.

Think of it this way:

CBS wants to give prizes, but doesn't want to shell out with their own cash or perhaps only part of it. How can they do this? One way, is to get companies to buy into their show and give away their product to the winners of a leg.

So far so good.

The ad guy or gal starts pitching the idea to a variety of companies to see what they can get for the show. Let's say, a travel company, like expedia wants to give away four trips and they want legs 1, 5, 6 and 9 to highlight their product. Negotiation begins and boom, bada, bing...CBS has prizes for the racers and expedia has advertising for four legs.

Some years they might get products for each leg and other years not. Or quite possibly at the beginning of each season they figure out which legs will have prizes and which ones won't when they amend the rules of the race. It seems quite likely that the prizes and the legs are determined ahead of time as companies like to negotiate when that product can be given away.

Seriously doubt that CBS or anyone else is stacking the deck for anyone's benefit.

Rob and Amber ask for help all the time and because they are attractive and ask nicely they typically receive the help they need. Have you not heard of "ask and you shall receive"? Of course, it doesn't hurt that people have seen them on TV before. Since I do not watch Survivor I would not be a fan to help them without them asking for help. Based on the way they ask for help, I probably would help them as they come across as friendly and agreeable and lost.

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97. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
As far as the "helping hand" goes, I don't have any problem with that. Sure, being a "Survivor" contestant has probbaly helped them in gaining assistance, but I know for a fact that in previous races other contestants have asked for, and received, help from locals. With these elaborate and obvious setups and locations for the various tasks, as well as people running around with cameramen following them, people have to know that something "unusual" is going on and most people would love to have even a passing connection to something that smacks of "television", regardless of whether or not the recognize the participants. My only concern was about the impropriety, perceived or real, of the prizes. It smells bad and at the very least CBS could afford to pay a little bit out of pocket to promote a little more fairness.
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98. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Well, you should be happy to hear that there is a prize for comming in first in the final leg. A million bucks. But I suppose if all the conspiracy theories hold up it will only be awarded if R/A win, right?
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99. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
:p
Apparently you've had enough of this conversation. As much as I can understand that, being snide doesn't change a thing. If R/A win, they win, and congratulations to them. I have nothing against them.
Nuff said.
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101. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Sorry, I didn't mean to aim that at you specifically. This is bashers, it's who we are, it's what we do, snide, snarky, sarcastic and sassy.
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102. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Well you have to admit this isn't the first conversation about how the game is "fixed" for Rob and Amber whenever they win a prize.

No offense to our newer members who haven't yet seen these posts, but they've been popping up here for weeks.
And though we try to be patient, there is only so
much 'conspiracy talk' a person can handle, only so much explaining of the way the show works, that one can do.

If anyone thinks I'm being snotty, I am sorry, I don't mean to be. But I'm not kidding about the "CBS fixed the show" type posts. Just look at the first 3 pages of this forum, there are many of them.

Welcome to all new folks! I hope you decide to stay and join the conversations, and that you stay beyond this season to the next. It is a fun place!

Trudy is right, snarky and sassy and sarcastic is often the tone for Bashers, we mean no offense. Our main purpose is to have fun.

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105. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
No offense taken. I was feeling a lttle snarky myself earlier. And I plan on staying around. I'm sure this is a lot of fun, and I hope to add to it.
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107. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"

good points and thank you. I've made this same argument myself here about oh, forty-eleven times or so, but it continues to fall on deaf ears.

No.way.it.is.fixed. Wouldn't happen. Not for the money that those advertisers are shelling out.


anyone with a brain and some gumption would ask for help and that's why most of the teams never bother to do so.

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108. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I hit head.wall.repeat weeks ago.

You should really try abdicating your opinions to Buggy. It's working out so well for me.



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109. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I'm already having to go around saying "ditto" to Fester. If I give Buggy that power, then what will I have left to do? Sit around and look cute?


--I guess I could go try to share my wisdom in the AI forums for awhile.

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110. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
How can you not say the show is rigged? Rob and Amber were picked by the powers that be, instead of applying for the race like everyone else. They have taken the place of another couple who applied to be on the show the right way. These two were hand-picked to boost the ratings, to play their usual game of dirtiness, cheating, lying, anything goes, leaving people injured on the ground, etc. The producers wanted these two in the race so we would have someone to hate and cheer when/if they are eliminated. Not too soon-so the ratings will be high. And so, by pre-selecting these two for the race, they are changing their own rules of the show (how to enter), and once you’ve cross that line, who’s to say they’re not “fixing” other small items so we’d hate them even more. After all, they do so seem to get most of the camera shots.

If the producers wanted Rob and Amber that bad, then have a show just for previous reality show contestants (Survivor, Big Brother, Apprentice, etc). Why bend the rules?

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111. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
How can you not say the show is rigged?

Because it's not.

A LOT of teams on reality shows are chosen by methods other than the normal application process.

Haven't you heard all the stories of contestants who are approached at the place of work (ie the Belly bar) or from producers having seen their modeling head shots or have seen them on other (usually game) shows?

I don't believe there have been too many an all-"applicant" casts on any reality show since the beginning of the genre. This is nothing new. Besides, Romber approached TAR and not the other way around. Sure they were hand-picked, but so were all of the other teams. It's not as if it was a random draw from all applications.


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112. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Wasn't one of the Brothers from this season on Fear Factor, and in a comercial?

I don't hate Rob and Amber. Hey Spidey, Do you hate Rob and Amber?

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113. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Yes, yes he was. And former TAR contestants Kelly & Jon were both in commercials. And Kendra was in magazines. And Flozack were both models. So were Brandon & Nicole. And the list goes on and on.

And, no, as a matter of fact, I don't hate Rob & Amber. As long as you say so, that is.


But why do you hate America?

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115. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Big Guy implied that everyone hates them and that's why CBS cast them so that we'd all cheer at their philimination.
I was just checking to see if everyone hated them.


What are you, some kind of Hippie Chick?

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118. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Hi Buggy and Spidey!

I hate Rob and Amber.

I hate Romber for not winning the $10,000 x 2 in the beginning leg cuz the TAR guys wrecked the wrong truck back to town and caused traffic in the wrong section of town so they couldn't beat DebBianca who are so clean they didn't take money from the producers to "slow down a bit".

I hate Romber for not winning the Toyota RAV4's cuz Ray took the money from CBS to NOT take the Fast Forward and take a dive, but slimey as he is he did anyway and thus are 2 SUV's richer!

I hate Romber for having the TAR production personnel plant "silent but explosive landmines" in Africa so that the Brothers' humvee would flip over and Romber could drive right on by with glee.

I hate Romber for forgetting that the Gnome with the Travelocity prize was the one in the basement window not the one by the water as was tipped off to them by that suspicious guy at the airport hanging out by the lost luggage counter...did anyone catch him to? He had a red and yellow vertically striped shirt on!

Oh how I hate those two! Oh the humanity...the humanity...

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119. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Conspiracy theories getting to you just a little bit?

Those big cheaters!


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114. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Lex, Lex, Lex - please stop already.
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116. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
Nicely played.


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117. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
to play their usual game of dirtiness, cheating, lying, anything goes, leaving people injured on the ground, etc.

You obviously watched a different few Survivors than I did because I don't remember any of the tactics that you listed being used by Rob or Amber other than an anything goes attitude which, I might add, is what most people want in a winner of Survivor.

As for the rest of the point you are trying to make, hello, welcome to "reality" televsion. It's a business. One that is designed to make money. Lots of it. Producers do this all the time, as Spidey pointed out. If you think the average schmo has a snowball's chance in hell of getting on one of these shows by simply putting in an application or sending in a video, then please let me talk to you about some excellent real estate investment oppotunities that available for you online.


After all, it is The Amazing Race, not the Amazing Block Party--Vardis

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120. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I agree. Does anyone really think it was a coincidence that their Survivor series was being shown while they were in one country or that they just happened to be on a magazine cover. It is all marketing and has a feeling of being totally contrived now. I admit they work well together and he works all the angles. Next time they should do a series with just million dollar winners. He commandeers people to help him, are they planted? "You are coming with us and you are staying with us and you are not to help anyone else OKAY? There has been a great loss of credibility this year. Are we being set up to see them in another show? If they win it will be a big yawn.
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121. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
It def. seems that Rob and Amber are getting some perks. Everytime any of the other teams came in first place they didn't get a prize.. but several times Rob and Amber came in first they win a prize???!!! That is very unfair...

I think it is SO unfair that Rob and Amber were even allowed to particpate in the race. They have already won a million +, now their wedding is being paid for c'mon
There are more deserving teams than ROb and Amber..
I PRAY THEY LOSE!!!!!!!!

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122. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"

>There are more deserving teams than
>ROb and Amber..

Maybe so, but neither Survivor nor The Amazing Race is about being deserving - it is about being a competitor. Reality shows for the deserving are those like "Extreme Makeover Home Edition," where you need a compelling backstory of having faced hardship in order to participate.


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123. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I agree with you Steph Fan. It has nothing to do with being deserving! When CBS cast this show they did not set out to find the most deserving people. They set out to make good television...and have undeniably succeeded in doing so. I believe CBS casting Romber had NOTHING to do with Rob or Amber personally, but had everything to do with a smart business decision. When CBS looks at Romber they see $$$. That's the bottom line. They don't care about Rob & Amber's feelings (and I don't mean to sound harsh towards CBS - In fact I'm sure they actually do care about people's feelings - but that is not the priority here) they want a bigger fan base, better ratings, more $$$. It's not personal...It's just business.

and btw- I have a feeling CBS execs were cringing everytime Romber would come in first on a prize leg because they were afraid of how it was going to look to the viewers, but that's just the way it worked out. There is NO WAY this show is fixed. You hear Phil saying things about barely making it to pitstops before the first place team. They have way to much to worry about already, muchless trying to organize the hiring of plants to be there if a team is to fall behind, or have an airline hold a plane so Romber can get on, or whatever else they are being accused of.

Romber is awesome, they run a great race, they are smart, and they take risks that pay off(most of the time). Hope they win it all!

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126. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
So well stated EDC. Thanks!
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132. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I have thought for weeks that there seems to be some sort of discrimination. Especially that Joyce and Ushena and Alex and Lyn didn't win any prizes at all. Even with Joyce and Uchena winning twice in a row. But last night I am positive that there was some interference.

Rob and Amber were on the plane, ready to win it all in Miami. The connector had unhooked and the doors were closed. All of a sudden Uchena and Joyce were allowed to get on!!!! Come on now. I love those 2 and was THRILLED they won, but I have flown all over the place for years and that has never happened. Late people are only allowed on if the connector is still attached.

Unless it was good editing. Anyway if it was true that Rob and Amber were helped all along, it is fitting that Joyce and Uchena were helped at the end.

To prove my point - remember when the teams were looking for a key in Istanbul on top of a castle? Rob came right out the door and there was the key, not 2 steps ahead of him. We watched replays of it and did not see that key with any other team. That started me on the whold theory. I do believe that people knew them in other countries though. And perhaps the producers/cameramen helped them out to stay in longer.

But one thing we all have to admit is that "Romber" brought huge excitement to this already exciting game. and brought it all up to another level. It was thrilling and I loved (sometimes hated) every last second of it. Can't wait for the family one. If you have every travelled with children you will know what I mean.

Bring on The Amazing Race 8!!!!!!!

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125. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
This thread may just set a record (at least a non-AI record) for number of posters with single-digit DAW totals.

Coincidence? I think not.


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127. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
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>This thread may just set
>a record (at least a
>non-AI record) for number of
>posters with single-digit DAW totals.
>
>
>Coincidence? I think not.

>
Hey, are you saying that we who do not post a lot do not spend a lot of time on the boards, are therefore more likely to perceive conspiracies? I resent the implication! (I read WAY too many threads to fall for that trick.)

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128. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
I love conspiracy theories.
And I hate big DAW numbers.

Not the big DAW posters, mind you, just the big DAW numbers. I had to post on Wickedly Perfect, of all places, just to get to 1500.
Charter Member: Club Anti-DAW

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129. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
no, I'm saying that a buncha folks on this particular thread, with low DAW counts, do appear to have not read nay of the other threads regarding teams getting help, R/A driving past the brothers' wreck, etc.


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130. "RE: favoritism on the amazing race 7?"
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Burnett could die of old age in the time it takes to read 'em all.

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