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"Let's start looking at Ep, 8 now"
jtmorgan61 91 desperate attention whore postings
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"Let's start looking at Ep, 8 now" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-10-01 AT 11:26 PM (EST)With all of the discussion of the code circulating, and people looking ahead to possible double crosses a few weeks down the road, no one seems to be starting to collect all the available spoiler stuff for next week only in a thread, just commenting on last week's show. We only have a few options this week and our odds of getting it right are high! So I thought I'd get us started by posting all the relevant stuff I could think of. First, not to get too OT, we do have the code discussion. I'm a lot more dubious about how accurate it is than when I first pointed it out on 3bigshows.com. The fact that it came out right before what looks like an easy to call episode, and is not on any back pages (or at least wasn't when I checked), makes me very suspicious that MB is using it as a distraction. In any event, the names are in alphabetical order, and the two omissions are not likely bootees next week, so the code is not important in looking at Ep. 8. What do we have from the preview? So far I haven't seen anything helpful, but I think it's telling that MB didn't show any consipracy talk other than Colby not liking Jerri and Liz not liking Jerri. More than likely it's because there isn't any movement even being discussed at this point. Everyone in Ogakor realizes that to even it up 4-4 with all the tiebreaker votes Kucha knows they have would likely be suicide. So, it's 99% likely a Kucha member. Ogakor will tend to want to keep people who can't win IC's, and possibly those they individually think are likely to side with them in a later alliance. Here's what I could find on the remaining Kuchies: Liz: Nothing substantial, code spoiler = stays maybe. In IC, stayed pretty long, but generally looks weak compared to Alicia or Nick. Rodger: Nothing. Dropped early, and they know he can't swim from RC in ep. 2. Nick:
- Finally getting some confessionals in last week's episode - being set up to get booted, like Jeff was with the extra face time?
- Not shown at all on next week's preview. MB may be trying to misdirect the viewing audience by pointing out personal strife to distract them from what will be a very political vote.
- Looks strong generally, but dropped early in IC.
- Jeff seemed to imply on the Early Show that someone betrayed him in some vague way besides Kimmi, and hinted that that person is a player as weeks go on. Rodger and Liz are unlikely to betray, and Alicia was his best buddy. Nick seems most likely. Alicia:
- "Go Kucha!" comment written to young fans in NYC indicates lack of identification with new tribe.
- According to her chat, Maralyn's friends are: "Kel, Colby, Keith, Tina, Debb, Jeff, Mitch, Kimmi, Alicia, and I just spoke with Rodger the other day." After Debb's friends came through last week, when I idiotically proclaimed it wouldn't, this is looking much more helpful. Her buds = Ogakor minus Jerri, plus everyone in Kucha who's been booted, plus Alicia, plus "sort of" Rodger. Not Nick or Liz, who seem personable enough.
- Not shown at all on next week's preview. MB may be trying to misdirect the viewing audience by pointing out personal strife to distract them from what will be a very political vote.
- Jeff commented that putting Kimmi and Alicia in a room just doesn't work. This might indicate that Kimmi and Alicia continued to see each other later, at boot camp.
- Party in NYC with Mitchell, Jeff, and Jerri. Sure, they're all in NYC, but I can't see J + A really hanging out much with Mitchell. Perhaps Jerri gets tossed next ep. after Alicia goes and they all hang out? Jeff seemed to know her Jerri very, very well on the Early Show. Anyway, it makes it unlikely that Alicia hung around uber-##### Jerri in the outback for very long, as everyone who did except for her lapdogs isn't talking to her.
- Not in picture of 7 people roasting something on CBS website. Keith is the other one missing. It appears there is only one unclaimed stick by the fire.
- Looks really freakin' strong and was one of the last 3 on the post in IC. Edited cause I just keep adding stuff.
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03-10-01, 11:41 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Let's start looking at Ep, 8 now" |
Good analysis, but methinks we can narrow it down a bit further:1) Alicia's "Go Kucha" can only be interpreted so far. I really don't see even the Final Two having strong allegiance to "Barrimundi", they're not tribe vs. tribe now. It's like when your college plays another college in a sport, then you go play intramurals within your own school. Alicia's comment might be interpreted as unshaken loyalty to Kucha which was not destroyed by a betrayal. 2) Where did I read that Alicia and Jerri became good friends? I don't remember where, but it was somewhere, and if true then it's no surprise that they might hang out in NYC. It would also seem to indicate that they had time to get to know one another in a situation away from the game. Early vote-offs? 3) I'm a pretty strong adherant to the "Nick=Mole" theory. What DID he and Colby discuss while watching the others on the beach? 4) Somebody hurt Lis's feelings. We've been assuming everything from Rodger to Jerri, but what if Lis and Alicia got into one? Alicia is abrasive (see: argument with Kimmi, not all one-sided there) and Alicia could easily make herself a target of opportunity.
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3. "Remember-the editing" |
PromosEp 2 kimmi, the vegetarian, cannot eat bush tucker
she does, kucha wins----Kel gone Ep 3 Rodger falls, lis must protect someone,
kucha wins----Maralyn gone Ep 4 something about getting rid of Jerri
Mitchell is gone Ep 5 Kimmi and Alicia catfight
Kimmi gone Ep 6 crocodile attack
Mike burned in fire Ep 7 Jeff says we're gonna eat them up and spit them out
Jeff gone Ep 8 lis says Jerri must go
Lis gone??????????? Most promos try to lead us in the opposite direction (except Kimmi) of what will happen. If it wasn't for the source code, 'red herring'(?), I would vote for Lis to be booted; but, if the source code was a red herring then why have it ruined so early (same week it was found); especially in a week when Lis is not expected to go. My comment on the source code theory:
Aren't most web programmers, 25 yr old white males?
If they were told to make space for 14 contestants and leave 2 off, who would a 25 yr old white male be rooting for?
Finally, have any of you web-site programmers ever checked on source codes for other sites? Is it something so commonly done?
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03-11-01, 08:32 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Remember-the editing" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-01 AT 08:34 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 03-11-01 AT 08:33 PM (EST) First of all, as a 25 year old male website programmer, I fully agree, and my first thought was that they had recently tested the viability of the site, and had picked the two hottest contestants to go all the way (believe me, if I ran the website, that's exactly how I'd test it...) Also, yes, this is actually a way to program commonly called "commenting out" data that will not be needed until later in the site's use. However, if they do NOT know the actual two finalists, it would be logical for them to add the other two contestants to the code, to make it easier to update later. (I'm lazy, and that's exactly what I'd do.) If they DO know the final two, they would delete these from the source code, completely, add the other two, or hide them from public access (one way to do this would be to use ASPs, but there are other ways to do this)... Therefore, since they failed to take any of these logical precautions, I believe this to be a red herring... see my analysis at this thread: http://community.survivorblows.com/boards/DCForumID2/884.shtml ----------------------------------------
Final Four: UCLA, Stanford, Ole Miss, and Michigan St.
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03-12-01, 11:18 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Let's start looking at Ep, 8 now" |
Does anyone know what this weeks IC is? I havent seen any pic of any challenges. That would be very helpful in determining who wins immunity, it will probably be someone with their backs to the wall, like Keith last week. I correctly predicted Keith to win Immunity last week because of the Ep7 previews, the one with Lis looking cold and miserable. Well the spoiler was there, because Keith was standing there also, but he looked much more calm and relaxed, like he could stand there for days. I think either Nick, Alicia, or Lis will win immunity, but i need to know what the challenge is. Any help ?
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03-12-01, 02:34 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Let's start looking at Ep, 8 now" |
I've been wondering about that too. Does anyone have any clues what either of the challenges are this week?
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03-12-01, 03:04 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Let's start looking at Ep, 8 now" |
This is totally based on the challenges from S1, as MB has kept similar challenges...Ep 8 last season was the archery contest for reward and what they call "End of the Line" for immunity. I think there will be boomerang toss for reward and I'm not sure about the immunity...anyone else have any ideas. Here is the link to last year's challenges just in case. http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/show/episode8/challenges.shtml
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03-14-01, 02:39 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: E8 screen caps" |
As seldom one who inputs - I feel this deserves it. This is very good take on the scenario of the pictures.Now also take into account that the show is called "friends" Nick would definitely make them if he shared the winnings with all (thus the cups). Also once they share - there is no reason for them "to be bummed out" about losing so that point holds as well. And as was mentioned as well in another thread as I was writing (stickboy) the food poisoning would affect all and surely does not come into affect as a result of the dinner. Also it appears that Buckeye stated the same thing in a new thread - I am not alone on this -great! Nick is alone as he has made no real allies. There is no way they would vote him off this week after such a move if they do go to TC. This is his own Immunity Idol for this week. There have been no IC photos, as I beleive that it is MB just screwing with everyone. He showed the obstacle course which never got used in Mike's leaving. I say Alicia goes.
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03-14-01, 06:40 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: E8 screen caps" |
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>Now also take into account that
>the show is called "friends"
>Nick would definitely make them
>if he shared the winnings
>with all (thus the cups)....the one problem with this is that the cups hold no significance....they were given several mugs with their wine and cheese..I would bet that they still have them.
>Nick is alone as he has
>made no real allies.
...actually, this is the result of editing....Vermin said in his chat that Nick was a member of the Jefflicia alliance and they were working on pulling Mike in as well....which could explain why Kimmi assumed that Mike would vote the same as Jeff and Alicia. All this "nick is a loner" talk is pretty pointless when we factor in the editing...we should only be making assumptions on things and acts that we actually SEE, not things we assume cause we DON'T see them..if that made any sense.
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03-14-01, 07:05 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: E8 screen caps" |
Concerning Nick, I read in an interview somewhere (perhaps one of Jeff's) that everyone at Kucha worked hard. While the editors have tried earlier to make us think that Nick doesn't do a whole lot, apparently this is not the case and Nick contributed his fair share of work. So it is likely that Nick did/does have some Kucha alliances, although that won't stop him from trying to survive by playing the game with Colby and the Ogies.
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03-13-01, 05:08 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Let's start looking at Ep, 8 now" |
Did you see the Canadian previews? It was centered on Lis and Tina talking privately, Alicia yelling at Lis, and Nick and Colby sitting, talking on a log. Who was missing? Lots of people. There was no Satan (Jerri), Ambore the 7th grader, Keith, or Rodger.
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03-14-01, 11:31 AM (EST)
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12. "Vidclips for E8 from the Early Show" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-01 AT 11:38 AM (EST)courtesy of Aja: 
Notice ONCE AGAIN that we have seen NOTHING of the immunity challenge. OK, I'm scared, and here's why: 1. We know (thanks, Supe) that the reward is dinner.
2. Nick brought a Frisbee to the outback, so he'll probably be a good boomerang thrower.
3. And we have the rumor that someone gets food poisoning. I know that I couldn't compete in an immunity challenge if I was barfing! What evidence do we have that Nick stays? 1. His low profile on the show --- but he has been getting more clips lately. 2. The fact that he wasn't listed as one of Mad Dog's friends -- but, if he were hospitalized when he first left the show, she might not get to meet him until the end. What evidence do we have that Alicia stays? Jerri flew in from LA to go to the premiere with Alicia, Jeff, and Mitchell ... perhaps meaning that Jerri got to know Alicia in Barramundi camp, as well as Mitchell and Jeff getting to know each other at the ranch. Hmmmm. Let's think about this!!! Could this fit together with the mignight hug piture? I'm not prepared to jump to any conclusions yet. What does everyone else think? P.S. Aja has just become "moderator" of the ss.com ezboard forum.
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03-14-01, 11:52 AM (EST)
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14. "Don't do it Ayak!" |
Here we go again....all week long we are in agreement on a certain bootee and now the day of the show, some new evidence surfaces that makes us rethink everything we've come up with over the last week. This sucks!I have a couple of questions though: First of all, even if Nick gets food poisoning, why wouldn't he be able to continue in the game....I've never had food poisoning, but I always thought the only cure was to let it run its course in your body until all the poison is gone...even if he was keeled over in pain he could still compete in any IC....remember, this is individual immunity now so no one is gonna care if he just stands there and doesn't put out any effort to win..... Also, if he was ill, aside from ASKING to be voted off, why would anyone vote for him...his illness would eliminate him as a threat so why not keep him around as a future sitting duck and get rid of someone who is more of an imediate threat.
And as far as having an advantage b/c he brought a frisbee, I'm not putting ANY stock in that theory...just b/c he brought a frisbee doesn't mean he's even that good at it, and I don't think frisbee throwing translates well when replaced by a boomerang (unless the guy was an expert frisbee thrower)
Ayak, this sucks cause now you got me thinking, and very few good things happen when I start doing that....damn, I knew I should've made my pick early this week so this wouldn't happen.
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03-14-01, 11:55 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Don't do it Ayak!" |
To answer one of your questions, if domeone gets sick the night of TC, and can't make it he's disqualified since each of the survivors must show up at TC.
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03-14-01, 11:56 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Vidclips for E8 from the Early Show" |
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Supposeldy
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>food poisoning, it says that
>the sick person goes before
>TC, and Nick could be
>hugging Jerri goodbye beofre TC
>that night.
>..if Nick had a bad enough case of food poisoning to leave the game, would he really be in any position to be hugging anyone goodbye??? Wouldn't he be covered in sweat and doubled over in pain??? Also, in the previews we have a clear shot of eveyone walking to TC with their torches...we know that they are on the way to TC b/c it is not quite dark yet as opposed to on the way home when it would be pitch black.
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03-14-01, 12:04 PM (EST)
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18. "nick-sick???" |
i give more credence to liz out for this. she was sick when she came home right?? why focus on nick sick?? they also played up liz's role (canada preview) for this week. don't know just don't want to focus on 1 possibility.
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03-14-01, 12:25 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Vidclips for E8 from the Early Show" |
AyaK,I'm skeptical about this too. Actually, I've had to hold myself back from changing my Alicia vote the last 24 hours. Now I really don't know. As far as food poisoning, there's no definitive proof that Nick gets sick. From what I know about food poisoning, you give it time and it passes. This is not something that, in most cases, would require hospitalization. If it was that serious, Nick would not be at TC, which he appears to be. Also, being sick does not make someone a target. In fact, it draws sympathy, and also weakens the body making the "patient" less of a threat in whatever IC that happens just three days away. But what I can't get away from is THAT PHOTO. D@%%!#, it looks like a spoiler right under our nose. Why does CBS suddenly, on the day of the show, show us this pic? To divert us away from the overwhelming favorite and actual bootee Alicia? Or to toss the truth before us with a snicker? I just don't know. But I will say that ALL the Alicia theories don't hold a whole lot of spoiler evidence to support it. We all seem to have chosen Alicia as simply a "logical" choice, which is why I've doubted my vote since the minute I posted it.
Episode 13: "Three gals and a houseboy," starring Jerri, Amber, Liz and Nick.
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03-14-01, 01:34 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Vidclips for E8 from the Early Show" |
If there were going to be no IC, or if someone were going to ask to be voted out due to food poisoning, why would the title of this episode be ‘Friends?’? When Mike was burned off of the show, the title was ‘Trial By Fire’. I would think that any such similar fate for a survivor would warrant at least a little bit of attention. There has been no hint of anything like this at all in the previews. Perhaps the reason that we’ve seen no previews of the IC is because it IS a mental challenge, and the whole world seems to think that Alicia will fail at this sort of challenge and be voted off. Perhaps Conspiracy Jim, I mean MB, just doesn’t want this week’s bootee to be COMPLETELY obvious. Then again, I’ve never been so confused…
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03-14-01, 05:16 PM (EST)
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27. "Interesting analysis" |
The only person I can really confirm is sick is me; just back from a lengthy visit to a local hospital (don't worry, it's treatable). I haven't had much of a chance to look at these pictures today.First, I don't think the "night hug" picture is from TC. I like the suggestion made on this thread and by Krautboy elsewhere that the winner of the RC gets to share his dinner with everyone (remember, that's what Colleen wanted to do last year, but MB wouldn't let her). Since I think there is a lot in common between throwing a Frisbee and a boomerang (but I'm no expert on this, shakes), I do see Nick as a likely winner of the RC, and he could well share his dinner, earning a hug from Jerri -- which is why no one is bummed that they lost. Maybe Nick does this because he is suffering from "paranoia" that he is next, as CBS seems to intentionally imply on the clip that flying squirrel discussed in the boot thread:
 As far as the title "Friends?", I don't think it's intended to be ironic (except as a way of mocking NBC). In other words, I don't think this episode involves old friends doubting or betraying each other. Instead, I think it means that people are trying to make NEW friendships, and I'm sure the Kucha (pronounced: "toast") have been the most active at this. I'm still going with Alicia as the target for this week, simply because I don't have enough evidence to change my mind. I just don't put enough credibility in the "food poisoning" spoiler to follow it. But I still don't know why we don't have clips of IC. It MUST mean something. I just don't know what.
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03-14-01, 07:12 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Interesting analysis" |
Perhaps, just perhaps, we haven't seen any IC clips because MB reads this board and knows that showing a Mental IC would really tip us off to Alicia being the bootee. Even if he doesn't read this board, perhaps it's a Survivor-Trivia type IC a'la Survivor I and MB doesn't want the obvious to be seen until SHOWTIME!
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03-14-01, 07:36 PM (EST)
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31. "Makes sense to me, Dawg" |
I'm certain that someone who works for MB reads these boards on a regular basis. I'd like to believe those people who insist that MB doesn't care about the Web community, but his deliberate misinformation about the injury in E6 indicates that he cares about misleading the boards (who else knew - or cared - that Michael had burn injuries?). Perhaps he realizes that the buzz about "Gervase-X" was part of what transformed Survivor into a phenomenal hit...
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Supposeldy in the article about the food poisoning, it says that the sick person goes before TC, and Nick could be hugging Jerri goodbye beofre TC that night.