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smackermack 93 desperate attention whore postings
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01-13-06, 03:10 PM (EST)
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"TJ and Jill"
Ianlya was wrong - Jill had not outgrown TJ's friendship. Jill according to her own words had put up the titanium wall when Allison left, and cut TJ off. Rhonda's exercise with the mural was just what was needed to get TJ and Jill back on track. It was so good to watch them talk and realize that they still needed each other.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: TJ and Jill shawnar 01-13-06 1
 RE: TJ and Jill butterfly34 01-13-06 2
   RE: TJ and Jill lovemydogdude 01-13-06 3
 RE: TJ and Jill Snicklette 01-13-06 4
   RE: TJ and Jill smackermack 01-13-06 5

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shawnar 366 desperate attention whore postings
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01-13-06, 03:50 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: TJ and Jill"
I thought the same thing. I found it intresting that IV Jills own life coach couldn't get to the bottom of the situation but Rhonda did. I was glad to see them work it out. I do beleive that sometimes we out grow friends. but this was not the case here.

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butterfly34 72 desperate attention whore postings
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01-13-06, 03:52 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: TJ and Jill"
I knew they would make up but I did understand Iyanla when she said sometimes you outgrow people.
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01-13-06, 04:31 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: TJ and Jill"
I mentioned this on a previous post but I hope what IY meant to say was that Jill has outgrown TJ..she cannot expect TJ to be on her same level..but instead she should accept TJ how she is, acknowledge the progress she's made, and know that TJ's process will be ongoing for years...encouraging her to work through their problems. If not..well this is what she should have said

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01-13-06, 04:52 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: TJ and Jill"
>Ianlya was wrong - Jill had
>not outgrown TJ's friendship.
>Jill according to her own
>words had put up the
>titanium wall when Allison left,
>and cut TJ off.
>Rhonda's exercise with the mural
>was just what was needed
>to get TJ and Jill
>back on track. It
>was so good to watch
>them talk and realize that
>they still needed each other.
>

-- I think Iyanla was right. Jill is changing, she is trying to stay away from conflict and drama. TJ tends to be the opposite at times (whether she can help it or not). Maybe the distance Jill created had to do with the fact that she isn't the same person she was when she met TJ. Now that Jill recognizes conflict and drama she doesn't seem to want much to do with it.

I don't know if Allison and Jessica's departure from the SOH had much to do with the distance Jill put between herself and TJ. You'd think a change like that would bring these two women together. Yet it didn't.

I think TJ sensed this distance and got scared. Then tried to make it into TJ and Jill against the world kinda thing. But she ended up insulting Jill instead of bringing her closer. Maybe TJ kept arguing with Jill to keep connected to her. Jill knows conflict and drama don't work for her. TJ is not there yet.

I think they will remain friends and can support eachother but Jill probably realizes that there is only so much she can expect from TJ.

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smackermack 93 desperate attention whore postings
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01-13-06, 04:54 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: TJ and Jill"
Jill admitted as much when she said when Allison left I put up the titanium wall and cut TJ off. How much more clear can she be!! The situation with the mural was all that was needed to realize this.
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