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"Arts and Crafts"
eire_heart74 1231 desperate attention whore postings
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01-13-06, 01:01 PM (EST)
 
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2. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
Why aren't these ladies get job
>and career counselling instead of
>clay pounding 101? I couldn't agree with you more! I am so sick of these stunts that have her doing. Get her some job training and skills that she can actually use. It shows just how immature she is, everyday it's something new she wants to be. Hello you have a kid. GET A JOB!!! It just seems she is just looking for the easy way out again! And this show is just helping her hustle still! I think it's great to have a hobby. Maybe painting, writing can be her little creative output. Her me time if you will. But how is she getting over the get rich quick idea when SO just keeps setting her up for it?
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Pixeltalk 644 desperate attention whore postings
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01-13-06, 04:44 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
I wish they would have Christina (and Lisa1) take some career tests and get career counseling. I think they (SO) promulgate these unrealistic career goals by encouraging people to DREAM BIG. It is good to dream but you also have to be practical, especially if you have a child.
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings
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01-13-06, 05:25 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
I think the downside is when they leave the house the cameras are off and the reality hits that dreams are nice but reality takes hard work. Most people really do have to have education and or training in their field to be succesful and sometimes you do have to work in an office, wait tables, etc. so you have the chance to take the classes you need to get to the dream job.
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2Centz 150 desperate attention whore postings
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01-16-06, 12:36 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
Exactly, roadrunner."If you teach a man to fish..." All this talk about "skills" has me scratching my head. How can theses lazy girls learn to take care of themselves with hobbycrafts? Perhaps sometime in the future, Christina's work will be good enough for her to support her family on, but until then she needs money, and unless they want her to go back to her old ways of earning it, they'd better teach her a more traditional way of earning it. She needs a day job, then she can paint at night. By the way, I've been lurking around here for a little while, but this is my first posting!
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Mama_Pita 122 desperate attention whore postings
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01-16-06, 11:45 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
Those flowers were actually an assignment she had to do with Dr. Stan, Remember the sillouettes of the three "hookers" that she had to name and then destroy, well ,she took those three cutouts and ripped them to pieces and glues them on posterboard and painted them. She didnt do that just to do it. and your right about them looking like an 8 yr old did it, but i would give more credit to the 8 yr old LOL
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Siouxsie 5 desperate attention whore postings
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01-16-06, 01:01 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
Hmm ...Honestly, how much studying does one have to do for a GED? This isn't Cassie who had issues of trauma that compounded taking the test. My understanding was that Christina was only low in the writing portion, and all the writing they have to do while journaling probably helps in that department. From the production point of view, which films better: Christina working on Arts and Crafts, or Christina at a desk writing? We can see some of what she does do, but this says nothing about what she does in the clips that we don't see. For all we know, she could be spending an hour or two each day on GED prep. In relation to the comments in this thread, what seems to be missing for me is the fact that people in the arts (painters, dancers, singers, actors, etc.) often work a desk job (part time or full) for years and years until they make it, assuming they are lucky enough to make it. I'm not going to critique her work and say 8th graders can do better or not. She probably can sell something at the farmer's makret. I'd rather buy something nice to look at for $10 - $20 rather than the several hundred dollars it costs for professional art. But then again, someone should be giving her a cost analysis lesson. You spent X on supplies and it took Y time. If the people at the farmer's market are only willing to shell out $10 - $20 for art, can you break even at that price? If the painting you did was so big and took so much time and supplies that you have to sell it for $50 or $100, it probably needs to be marketed elsewhere and you may have to have more skills to produce something to sell in that higher market. Perhaps she should be working on smaller pieces? Anyway, we're not seeing any of the practical "what you also need to be thinking of to make this profitable" discussion. If it's just going to be a hobby where if something sells that's cool and if not, no biggie, then she still needs that desk job to pay the rent, etc.
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OklaBlue 1244 desperate attention whore postings
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01-16-06, 08:57 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
Why would anyone pay anything for her crap when they can go to a "Starving Artists" sale and get something nice for $20 or less?
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Twinkles 324 desperate attention whore postings
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01-16-06, 05:36 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
'how does smooshing paint on a canvas relate to how you get along with others?" Well, they could have done any type of group project together to do an exercise to demonstrate interaction. They could have folded envelopes for a non-profit mailing or had the LC there while they tried to cook an outdoor bar-b-que or something. But when people smoosh paint or clay, they tend to "let go" emotionally more than they would if they were working with other tools. Job counseling and "just getting a job" are very practical and real-world, and they sound like they make perfect sense for all of their next steps. I understand why it seems like they should put more emphasis on those things. With Christina, I think they are working on her practical problems one-at-a-time. I'd like to play devils advocate for part of it, though. People like Kim, Christina, and nuLisa, (I made up a Native American name for her MarriedLisa CriesWithTears) have gone through the motions getting married, having kids, and for 2 of them, getting jobs. But doing the basics of real world things without healing emotional and communication problems only delays having them done in a healthy way.
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pinksparkleguitar 1222 desperate attention whore postings
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01-16-06, 05:54 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
>But when people smoosh
>paint or clay, they tend
>to "let go" emotionally more
>than they would if they
>were working with other tools.
>I'd like to play devils advocate
>for part of it, though.
>People like Kim, Christina, and
>nuLisa, (I made up
>a Native American name for
>her MarriedLisa CriesWithTears) have gone
>through the motions getting married,
>having kids, and for 2
>of them, getting jobs. But
>doing the basics of real
>world things without healing emotional
>and communication problems only delays
>having them done in a
>healthy way.
I really would value these kinds of art thearapy exercises for people whom they are well suited to, like Nulisa (I love the name you gave her, Twinkles!!) or Kim. I think it is simply the wrong exercise for Christina or OldLisa. They both need practical world training, and Christina needs to be told in a nice way that she doesn't have the talent so far to be an artist and make money enough for her and her kid.
It sounds to me like she's still denying the fact that she needs to do real work. If she can't hustle, what else sounds whimsical and fun and not hard to do for money? Art. Writing . . . .neither of those would sound to her like they are work. As a poet who works a day job, and has gone through six years of school fo it, I know she is wrong, but thinking about it, it makes sense from her 'non-work" point of view.
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MichaelB 74 desperate attention whore postings
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01-16-06, 07:41 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
I think this last litter is so hopeless they're just keeping them busy with paper and crayolas until their parents come pick them up.
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Reptillycus 12 desperate attention whore postings
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01-18-06, 04:00 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
Guaranteed if she comes to CA with her skills, she will be on welfare or hooking, within 3 months, unless she gets a guy to pay her rent, etc.
She doesn't have the people skills to get along with a legitimate roommate for very long, and she can't even take art classes in CA at a Community College, which are Very Good Deals, a GED is not required, you just have to be 18 years old, until she has been here long enough to be deemed a Resident, thus qualifying for very low rates.
She doesn't want to work fast food, or entry level office, but there is not much else open to her.
If she worked fast food, or entry level office, got some education, within 2 years she could be doing much better for herself and her son, But She Doesn't Want To...because That's Too Hard. Well, I have been there precisely because everything was Too Hard, and I wish I had just woken up much sooner that I did...it's much harder in the long run to avoid doing things the right way because you are afraid of failure. Not doing the right thing because you are afraid to do it IS failure.
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mistyrose52 795 desperate attention whore postings
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01-18-06, 12:36 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Arts and Crafts" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-18-06 AT 12:37 PM (EST)Well, I don't know if this was mentioned, but how did it help her for Ilanya to hand her a $20?? The other day when Christina came back so dispondent and down because she just couldn't sell all her clothing items, and art work? HELLO! That is something your grandmother or sugar daddy does for you! In the real world, NO ONE hands you anything! You work hard for everything you get. You get out there and get an education! I worked my way through nursing school with 2 small children. Yes, I had a husband who helped, but I know plenty of RN's who didn't. Christina is a hustler, plain and simple, immature, snotty, snobby, and not willing to WORK for a living! If it were THAT easy to make a few hundred bucks every weekend, heck, I'd be throwing some paper and paint on a canvas and heading to a Farmer's Market!! Wouldn't we all?? I don't get the point of any of this. She and Lisa1 have gone NO WHERE fast in this house-if anything, they are regressing. I give her 3 weeks out of the house before she hits the streets again-she's already talking about it. Sad, but true. She's had the 'easy' money, and I can't see her taking anything less, without MAJOR help! Which she is NOT getting at the SO House!
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