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"Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Yeah, I stole the idea, so what? You know the shows Im talking about. They were great....and then died a slow, prolonged, painful-to-watch death. Mad About You jumps to mind. Friends is there now. Northern Exposure is another, it just stank to high heaven after Joel left.


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 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long LadyT 08-13-03 1
   RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long fireworks 08-13-03 4
       RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long survivorscott 08-14-03 18
           RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long Draco Malfoy 10-20-03 29
   RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long strid333 08-16-03 26
       RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long Draco Malfoy 10-20-03 30
 :( cqvenus 08-13-03 2
   seinfeld cqvenus 08-13-03 3
       RE: seinfeld ginger 08-13-03 14
           RE: seinfeld DebCapsFan 08-15-03 25
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long Majic Mitch 08-13-03 5
   RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long Esbea 08-13-03 6
   RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long Majic Mitch 08-13-03 9
       RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long Majic Mitch 08-13-03 10
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long trigirl 08-13-03 7
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long wildchickenhunter 08-13-03 8
   RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long ginger 08-13-03 11
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long FarmBoy 08-13-03 12
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long FarmBoy 08-13-03 13
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long wildchickenhunter 08-13-03 15
 Most of them realitybites 08-13-03 16
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long MCFixer 08-14-03 17
   RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long Draco Malfoy 10-21-03 33
 The short list FesterFan1 08-14-03 19
   RE: The short list ginger 08-15-03 20
   Gotta agree wildchickenhunter 08-15-03 22
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long tvgeek401 08-15-03 21
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long dabo 08-15-03 23
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long DebCapsFan 08-15-03 24
   RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long indian girl 09-16-03 27
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long ghost cat 10-20-03 28
   RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long ginger 10-20-03 31
       RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long ghost cat 10-21-03 32
  I have the ULTIMATE!!! leannerenee 10-30-03 34
 RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long Ra_8secs 12-01-03 35

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1. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Moonlighting and Happy Days def. jumped the shark. Pitiful I say.

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4. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Three's Company ran for far too long along with the sequels, i.e., "The Ropers" and whatever the stupid show was that John Ritter starred in after that.
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18. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
and whatever the stupid show was that John Ritter starred in after that

Three's a Crowd

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29. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Speaking of John Ritter, is there any real reason for "8 Simple Rules..." to continue? With James Effing Garner?


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26. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Well, if it were still Season 11 or 12 of The Simpsons, I would've said that but I thought they improved again in 13 and 14, so I won't say that.

However, I find Malcolm in the Middle is dragging on. The boys are too interested in getting girls. And maybe it is time for Francis to move to another new location (funny thing is that I like the ranch with the Germans). It didn't help that they just got a new baby. (Any speculation into if it's a girl or boy? The kid's name is Jamie.)


Three is the perfect number.

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30. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
I *think* that in the final episode last season they referred to Jamie as a "she", but I really don't remember.

Interesting that Malcolm is the only child whose name can't go both ways.


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2. ":("
as much as I don't want to say it, because this is one of my all-time favorite shows, X-Files should have been cancelled instead of filling in fluff with those two loser agents.

- still blames 9/11 for the official cancellation of x-files

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3. "seinfeld"
everyone said it was funny. i watched. it wasn't funny. they said wait it gets better. kept waiting for it to grow on me. totally quit. but it was still on. finally catching it in reruns, since it's on fifteen channels seventy-five times a day, and still really not a fan.

- back off

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14. "RE: seinfeld"
THANK YOU. Never liked it. Too many friends worship it. Constantly being forced to watch reruns of it (for someone who hates this show I have seen an awful lot of it).
Have actually been accused -- semi-mockingly - of being a "self-hating jew" because I don't like it. Sheesh.
On the other hand, kind of like Larry David's show - probably what Seinfeld should have been all along.
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25. "RE: seinfeld"
*waves to her fellow "self-hating" Jew*
Never was fond of this show.
Elaine needed to be smacked.
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5. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Family Matters and Full House. Hell, once the kids get to a certain age, they just aren't cute anymore.

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6. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
same with Family Ties after Alex went to college.

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9. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
The Beverly Hillbillies ~ once they colorized they sucked.


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10. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Sabrina the Teenage Witch ~ Again the actress just outgrew the character.


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7. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Dallas - Once the Bobbie and Pam dream thing happened I tuned out.

Friends - A baby?!?!

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8. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Mad About You.
Good Morning Miami.
Rosanne.
Designing Women.
Cosby - got really bad as the kids grew up.
Facts Of Life.

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11. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Twin Peaks (which I loved to the point of obsession the first season or two).
Wonder Years (star too old syndrome).
90210 (star becomes Tori Spelling syndrome).
Possibly Law & Order (okay, not possibly but actually - still, I keep watching).
Spin City. (No Michael, no spin. Sorry, Heather).
Knot's Landing (but it was the BEST of that 80s Dallas breed and no one knows eye shadow like Donna Mills)
Leave it to Beaver (star WAAAAAAAAAAY too old syndrome; Beav's voice was lower than Ward's by the time the show wrapped up)
Any show where an attempt to circumvent star-way-too-old-syndrome by sudden adoption of orphaned relative child (Donna Reed, Brady Bunch, Cosby, Family Ties, Growing Pains).
M*A*S*H
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12. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
OK....Here are my "jump" criteria:

1. When a main character finally has a baby.
2. When the cute kid gets to old, suddenly there's another baby.
3. Characters from other shows start to "visit".
4. When the show has ripped off 3 or more Lucy episodes.
5. When the main characters finally get married.

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13. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Sorry...one more....

First 15 minutes- spaceship meets unknown alien thingy

Next 30 minutes- alien thingy chews on ship/crew. Someone has a bright idea just before the comercial break @ 20 minutes til.

Last 15 minutes- magical modified MacGyver thingy kills the alien spaceship.

This is only an original idea once!! Voyager did it over and over and over and over.

Guess they jumped into a black hole.

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15. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
CSI - enough said.

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16. "Most of them"
Most shows that last more than one season outlive their usefulness at one point. Either they forget what made the show a success, or they run it into the ground.

90210 was very good for the first 7 seasons, not so hot the last three. Melrose was fun to watch when the crazy redheads were around.

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17. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
"Teletubbies"- Once you give up smoking weed, it just ain't all that deep!

"West Wing"- Sad to say but after 9/11 show seems too contrived, through no fault of writers, or actors; America changed.

"Mary Tyler Moore"- When Mary moved into new apartment, and she had a date with Mr Grant it was time to tell Mary she's not going to make it after all.

"Gunsmoke" - Miss Kitty was starting to look like Miss Kitty Litter toward the end.

"Will and Grace"- sure it was groundbreaking the first year, but years of PG camp gets old fast. If you need your queer fix, watch Queer as Folk, Bravo's Monday night line up, Christopher Lowell or go to a local drag show.

"Bewitched"- just plane creepy when new (and gay) Darrin appeared (much preffered ugly drug addicted Darrin).

"Sister,Sister" and any show with twins as premise-lets face it twins are creepy, and every possibility involving twins was done by Patty Duke (although they were identical cousins)

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33. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
>"Will and Grace"- sure it was
>groundbreaking the first year, but
>years of PG camp gets
>old fast. If you
>need your queer fix, watch
>Queer as Folk, Bravo's Monday
>night line up, Christopher Lowell
>or go to a local
>drag show.

While you can't deny the greatness of Jack and Karen, this show really went downhill when they foisted Harry Connick Jr upon us and moved Grace out to get married to him. Now half the time Will and Grace barely get one full scene together. And they had a great out for this storyline corner they've painted themselves into at the season finale, but they went right back to him. *bangs head on wall*


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19. "The short list"
I'm too tired to make a definitive list, but here are some shows that definitely jumped the shark and hung around much too long:

Cheers - This show was great until Sam and Diane actually started dating. After that, it was slowly down hill. By the end it was downright unwatchable for me.

Mad About You - Also very fresh and funny for the first few years. Then they committed the cardinal sin of sitcoms: they got serious. That whole plotline where Jamie cheated on Paul? Who needs that? If I want infidelity, I'll look around my neighborhood or talk to my coworkers. I want my sitcoms to make me laugh for 30 minutes. Is that so hard? Don't even get me started on the baby.

Happy Days - The original "jumped the shark" series. This show lasted waaaaayyyyy too long. Ron Howard had the sense to get out. It's a shame no one else did. Personally, I never cared that Joanie loved Chachi.

M*A*S*H - That show lasted about 10 years longer than the war it depicted. It also got ridiculous at the end. Honestly, it was never right after Trapper and Blake left. David Ogden Stiers? Never was a fan. Give me Frank Burns any day.

Northern Exposure - This one just makes me sad. God, I loved this show. But when the creaters bailed on it, it went into the toilet faster than a Coors Light. I don't even recognize the episodes made after Joel left as legitimate. They're just awful.

But the King Shark Jumper?

Friends - I was done with this show after Ross' second marriage. The only thing remotely funny about it any more is Joey, and it's been that way for at least 3 seasons. The irony there is that he's the one who started out as a caricature. Now he's the only one who isn't. Oh, and this show is a repeat offender of the cardinal rule above. Jeez, that irks me. If I want drama, I'll watch Fox 'News'.

I'm sure I'll think of more. These just popped into my head.

Fester
And those are just the shows I watched on a fairly regular basis.

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20. "RE: The short list"
Yes, I think Friends deserves the top spot on this list. And now, in Happy Days tradition, they are taking the weakest character and spinning him off into ratings futures. Uk.
Haven't seen Friends in years (I think because Survivor is opposite) - are they about 49 now? They could all move into a skilled nursing facility together.
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22. "Gotta agree"
That whole plotline where Jamie cheated on Paul? Who needs that? If I want infidelity, I'll look around my neighborhood or talk to my coworkers. I want my sitcoms to make me laugh for 30 minutes.
Exactly!

It is probably why I was always such a fan of Married with children(I know many of you out there were not fans), but the show was never about anything but trying to make people laugh. It never took itself serious. Even towards the end it was always about hapless Al, his lazy wife, slutty daughter and horny son.

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21. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
King of the Hill. I've seen this show twice and i hate it! i don't know what it is, but something about this show really bothers me.

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cool. someone took my idea from the other thread(unless someone else came up with this first and i didn't know. if so, sorry for taking credit.)

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23. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Bonanza.

The Brady Bunch. (and however many spin-off sequels they tried.)

Murder She Wrote.

Welcome Back, Kotter.

Mork and Mindy.

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24. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
ER
Should've pulled the plug a couple of years ago. They can just put Queer Eye in it's timeslot and be done with it.
Fraiser
OMG... it's the same thing over and over (Fraiser has lousy luck with women... but Daphne and Niles are married.
Punk'd
I have no idea what it is about Ashton Kutcher, but he annoys the bleep out of me.
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27. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Ally McBeal..

The final season was painful to watch. I actully thought the season before the final one looked promising if the producers delved into the romance with Ling and the character played by Taye Diggs, but then then next season both were gone. All that was left was Ally, Bon Jovi and some kid. Good thing, someone finally put the last nail on that coffin.

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28. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
1) Simpsons: The show hasn't been funny for years. Keep the Treehouse of Horror specials; dump everything else.

2) South Park: At first it was Daring and Edgey and Funny. Now it's none of the above. Butters isn't funny; Tweeg (the too much coffee kid) isn't funny. Even the so-called banter between the kids is starting to sound forced. Let it go.

3) Seinfeld: Okay, so it was funny; it even stayed funny for a while. But it just got to be too much of a good thing; every station seemed to have Seinfeld on 10 times a day. It's been cancelled and it's STILL on ten times a day.

4) Friends: My probability mathematics are a little rusty, but I think they've officially gone through every possible coupling between these people. And I've completely lost track of the number of weddings/babies/etc. And I CRINGE at the thought of a Joey spin-off.

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31. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
That quote wasn't from The Book of Roy Horn, was it?

Friends - BAH! Do they all live in a skilled nursing facility by now?

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32. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Actually, the quote is from Fernand Mery, who has written many books about animals, especially dogs and cats. It is also one of the most popular cat-themed quotations on the Web, 'cause that's where I found it.


"God has created the cat to give man the pleasure of caressing the tiger."

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34. " I have the ULTIMATE!!!"
SAVED BY THE BELL!!

Now, I am a freak for SBTB, looking to by the DVD and all, but once they got to the point where Kelly and Jessie left and that biker chic came on, it was time to call it quits. But no, there were the College Years, and then numerous cast ensembles of SBTB the New Class. And the New Class episodes were the same stories as the old ones (the school plays w/ boys kissing other guys girlfriends and thinking they were in love, etc.) just w/ different characters. I think a girl even got addicted to caffeine just like Jessie did in "Jessie's Song". C'mon, you know it: "I'm so ecxcited. I'm so.. so.. SCARED!!")

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35. "RE: Shows that Lasted Too Long"
Did anybody mention Happy Days?

The genesis of the classic terminology of a show on for too long: time to "Jump the Shark"!

-- Ra, as fast as light

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