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99. "RE: Episode 9 - That was Bad@ss"
Television, nice to see you! Great thoughts, and thought provoking as well!

Michel, I just am blown away every week into your insight in to the editing! Love that Kelley getting 2 confessionals in the beginning underlines her as a player. She's quickly becoming one of my faves! I love her joy for the game and her snarky comments, and reactions! So happy with her!

I agree, I was suspicious of Jeremy, Spencer, and Stephen having some kind of connection with Kelley, but in retrospect, I dunno?

KEITH....did you catch his color commentary through the reward, it's priceless. Come'on guys, this is embarrassing, and I loved, loved, loved the punctuation at the end, SPIT! He's really in here for comic relief, and I love it!

Regarding Jeremy's confessional...We weren’t even close. It was embarrassing. It was like this whole day is a waste of a day for me. This is a bad one. Last night was bad; Savage went home. Today is bad. It goes up and down; today’s a down. I felt that it was placed there as to emphasize the ups and downs that one day can bring in the game of Survivor. It is to foreshadow the high that he will experience in moments. He was down with Savage, really down with the RC loss, but this also sets us up for the HIGH of finding the clue to the HI. It's like putting it front and center that as low as the lows can be, it can turn on a dime and the next moment can be your highest high, and so the moral of the story is never give up! After all, isn't that what surviving is all about?

When Joe, Ciera, Tasha, Stephen, and Spencer were on Reward and Ciera started talking strategy, Tasha did perk up and come to attention when Ciera mentioned Jeremy, and if you go to the end with him you won't win. But, I couldn't believe how quickly she turned the conversation off of Jeremy and onto Wiglesworth. Since Tasha brought it up, it's almost like she planted the seed with Ciera, so how mad can she be, when later it is Wigle that goes?

Then Jeremy finds his HI clue, and then later that night the actual idol. Jeremy is really sitting pretty, I thought he had a Boston Rob moment, when he found it and skipped around and was elated. Boston Rob and Boston Jeremy! I love how he loves the love and I hope Val can come for the family visit, because if Jeremy is there it WILL be epic! I would love to see it!

When Kelly and Joe were sitting on the beach and Stephen approached, then got his confessional, and he noted how they had a shared arrogance about how awesome they are, I had to laugh! Right then, you could hear Kelly tell Joe...everyone wants me gone just as much as you..... I found that to be hysterical, and I thought to myself, hmmmm, maybe she is arrogant. We all know what follows arrogance in this game! Was that the first hint of things to come later?

I couldn't agree more with you, however, that Kelly was the victim of Stephen's ambition but I can't help but remember how quickly Tasha brought her name up earlier...

Stephen approaching the girls like that just underlines how awkward he is again. And, he was lucky that Ciera knew what he meant. I also would have called Stephen out on it, if I had been there. He wanted to vote with them, but he didn't want to tell them who to vote for...

Then they had the IC, Joe won, Kelley swore, Keith spits, and Stephen beat Spencer to the advantage. I loved how it was those two that went after it! Stephen is a perfect one to get that particular advantage as well! AS a know it all, he should be able to get the most out of it! This episode sure does seem like things are coming up roses for Stephen, finally.

When they were deciding to split votes, it was Spencer, that told them that would be easy, guys vote Wentworth, girls vote Ciera. Kimmi didn't figure that out, hahaha!

When Stephen told us of his advantage, and he ended his confessional about, but, I 'm not playing it tonight, that would be a waste, I can get by tonight on my wits and hustle....I thought, uh-oh, he is going home with that advantage in his pocket! Doubt, misdirection!

I thought Kelley's last confessional was poignant also....if this worked, she'd feel like she had people she could work with moving forward in this game and it would give her more confidence! Is this foreshadowing of things to come? Will she start working with Stephen/Spencer/Jeremy more? With all the talk of voting blocks, will Stephen turn his back on the witches next ep and then have to exact their revenge? Questions!

I agree, with your assessments in that it was a forced, and hasty move for Spencer and Jeremy. I can't help but feel STILL, that Stephen is playing too hard too fast. But, I have to say I love the way Jeremy is playing, he's more chill and he's seen letting other people drive the car. It's easier to defend when someone else is pushing so hard. I feel that if there are repercussions from this move, they will be for Stephen, and not so much for Spencer and Jeremy. We'll see.

I heard loud thunder at the RC, and I have to say, was that dubbed in? Surely, they wouldn't have them standing like lightening rods in the middle of WATER, in an electrical storm? Tribal council was definitely real, but I surely wondered about that RC. As much as I would love to be on the show, for real, I did not envy them being in that horrific weather, so cold, and water logged. That has got to be pure he!!.

I kind of look at Kimmi, Tasha, and Kelly as the 3 ugly step-sisters of poor Cinderella. And, of course, Kelley is my Cinderella!

I agree with most of your assessments, but I think Spencer is sitting very nicely with Jeremy and Stephen. For someone that got by through the skin of his teeth through half the game, now he's in a power alliance. One has 2 HI's, and the other an advantage. But, this is a game of pros, so let's see how Spencer can capitalize. Clearly Tasha and Kimmi will hold him less accountable for that last move. I also loved how he decided to go with Stephen, he's letting some one else drive, and that's GOOD for Spencer, I think!

As I mentioned above, I feel like this was Stephen's rise to fame, his starring episode, and I worry that this could lead to a big fall. I am weary that he's been too consumed with big moves, driving the bus, to the point of overkill. The editing didn't give Kelly much substance, and frankly I don't see this as a power move, but as a second best shot to weaken Joe's power. I still don't know if it will be enough, especially if Joe keeps winning, and according to Abi, Joe's going to win the IC's forever. I am worried about Stephen. I also worry about all this concern to get out threats and power players, now that he has an advantage, and seemingly new friends, isn't he painting himself just as he sees others, as a power player.

Of the 3 witches, clearly Abi is the insignificant one at this point. Which, I don't know if that will help her longevity or hurt it. Kelley still seems to be the power girl, the preferred target, then Ciera. Wentworth is confident she'll have some people to play with next, but will she? Thrilled that you see her as a winner at this point, I would LOVE that! Clearly, with the odds stacked against her the whole way, there is doubt! But, she does time and again have positive, winning quotes. Go Kelley!

Keith and Kimmi are really pretty insignificant to the story and they need to wake up and play. Keith probably just wants to go along to get along and then start winning challenges at the end.

I agree Tasha had her story at Angkor, but I keep waiting for her to wake back up. Perhaps after this episode, she will?

Jeremy: I love the way he's playing. Now he has 2 HII's to help him maneuver, and he let's others drive the bus, as I noted above. By doing that, he's seen as a follower, and others will go for the head of the snake before they go for the tail. Also, Ciera cast doubt on Jeremy by naming him as the winner, if you take him to the end with you. He was spot on when he told us his motivation for finding another idol, he told us that last night they got Savage, (it could have been him!), and that hurt him, because Savage was a shield, but they WILL come for me, so I need to be ready. He had that confessional in the same night as Ciera throws the spot light on him, and then he succeeds and finds the second idol. YES, I like the way Jeremy is playing! Chill but focused!


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 Season 31 - Second Chances: The Ch...   michel2     09-20-15       
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   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     09-23-15     2  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     09-24-15     3  
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         RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   PepeLePew13     09-28-15     15  
             RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   michel2     09-28-15     17  
                 Same location   Dusty2004     09-28-15     18  
                     RE: Same location   michel2     09-28-15     19  
                         RE: Same location   kingfish     09-28-15     20  
                             RE: Same location   michel2     09-28-15     21  
                                 RE: Same location   kingfish     09-29-15     22  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Flowerpower1     09-24-15     4  
   Episode 1 - Villains Have More Fun   michel2     09-26-15     7  
     RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Flowerpower1     09-26-15     8  
         RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   michel2     09-26-15     9  
             RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Flowerpower1     09-26-15     10  
                 oops   tribephyl     09-27-15     14  
                     RE: oops   Flowerpower1     09-28-15     16  
             RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Jims03     09-26-15     11  
             RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Outsider32     09-27-15     12  
                 RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   michel2     09-27-15     13  
                     RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Outsider32     09-29-15     23  
     RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   suzzee     09-30-15     24  
         RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   kingfish     09-30-15     25  
         RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   michel2     09-30-15     26  
   The stage is being set   Outsider32     09-30-15     27  
     RE: The stage is being set   michel2     10-03-15     29  
         RE: The stage is being set   Outsider32     10-03-15     30  
             RE: The stage is being set   michel2     10-04-15     31  
   Episode 2 - Change is Hard   michel2     10-03-15     28  
     RE: Episode 2 - Change is Hard   Flowerpower1     10-05-15     32  
         RE: Episode 2 - Change is Hard   michel2     10-06-15     33  
             RE: Episode 2 - Change is Hard   Flowerpower1     10-06-15     34  
                 RE: Episode 2 - Change is Hard   michel2     10-06-15     35  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     10-08-15     36  
   Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   michel2     10-10-15     37  
     RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   Flowerpower1     10-10-15     38  
         RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   michel2     10-12-15     42  
     RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   Georganna     10-11-15     40  
         RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   michel2     10-12-15     43  
     RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   Flowerpower1     10-11-15     41  
         RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   michel2     10-12-15     44  
   Some tweaks   Outsider32     10-11-15     39  
     RE: Some tweaks   michel2     10-12-15     45  
         RE: Some tweaks   Outsider32     10-13-15     46  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     10-15-15     47  
   Episode 4 - Evolution and Change   michel2     10-16-15     48  
     RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   Flowerpower1     10-17-15     49  
         RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   Outsider32     10-17-15     50  
         RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   suzzee     10-19-15     52  
             RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   michel2     10-19-15     54  
         RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   michel2     10-19-15     53  
             RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   Flowerpower1     10-19-15     55  
                 RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   michel2     10-19-15     56  
                 RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   Outsider32     10-19-15     57  
   My style   Outsider32     10-17-15     51  
   Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Message:   michel2     10-24-15     58  
     RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   Flowerpower1     10-24-15     59  
         RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   michel2     10-24-15     60  
             RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   Flowerpower1     10-25-15     61  
     RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   suzzee     10-28-15     62  
     RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   Outsider32     10-28-15     63  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   b1whois     10-30-15     64  
     RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     10-30-15     65  
     RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   michel2     10-31-15     67  
         RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   b1whois     11-02-15     71  
             RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   michel2     11-02-15     72  
   Episode 6 - Setting the Tenor for t...   michel2     10-31-15     66  
     RE: Episode 6 - Setting the Tenor f...   Outsider32     11-01-15     68  
     RE: Episode 6 - Setting the Tenor f...   Flowerpower1     11-02-15     69  
         RE: Episode 6 - Setting the Tenor f...   michel2     11-02-15     70  
   Episode 7 - It's Like Day One Again...   michel2     11-07-15     73  
     RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   CTgirl     11-09-15     74  
         RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   michel2     11-09-15     75  
     RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   Flowerpower1     11-10-15     76  
         RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   michel2     11-10-15     77  
             RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   Flowerpower1     11-11-15     78  
                 RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   michel2     11-11-15     79  
                     RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   Flowerpower1     11-12-15     82  
   Score 1   Outsider32     11-11-15     80  
     RE: Score 1   Outsider32     11-12-15     81  
   Boots building up/surprising endgam...   Outsider32     11-12-15     83  
   Episode 8 - The Game is Always Chan...   michel2     11-14-15     84  
     RE: Episode 8 - The Game is Always ...   Flowerpower1     11-17-15     85  
         RE: Episode 8 - The Game is Always ...   michel2     11-17-15     89  
     RE: Episode 8 - The Game is Always ...   kingfish     11-17-15     86  
         RE: Episode 8 - The Game is Always ...   michel2     11-17-15     87  
             One other thing....   Flowerpower1     11-17-15     88  
                 RE: One other thing....   Rembrandt     11-17-15     90  
                 RE: One other thing....   michel2     11-17-15     91  
                     RE: One other thing....   Flowerpower1     11-17-15     92  
                         RE: One other thing....   PepeLePew13     11-17-15     93  
                         RE: One other thing....   michel2     11-18-15     94  
   Ep 9 quick thoughts   television2     11-19-15     95  
     RE: Ep 9 quick thoughts   CTgirl     11-19-15     96  
     RE: Ep 9 quick thoughts   michel2     11-21-15     98  
   Episode 9 - That was Bad@ss   michel2     11-21-15     97  
     RE: Episode 9 - That was Bad@ss   Flowerpower1     11-21-15     99  
         RE: Episode 9 - That was Bad@ss   michel2     11-21-15     100  
             RE: Episode 9 - That was Bad@ss   Flowerpower1     11-22-15     101  
   Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Changer   michel2     11-28-15     102  
     RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   Flowerpower1     11-30-15     103  
         RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   michel2     11-30-15     104  
             RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   Flowerpower1     11-30-15     105  
                 RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   television2     12-01-15     106  
                     RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   Flowerpower1     12-04-15     108  
                         RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   SquidProQuo     12-04-15     109  
                             RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   Flowerpower1     12-04-15     110  
   Another victory   Outsider32     12-04-15     107  
   Episode 12 - A Million Dollar Decis...   michel2     12-05-15     111  
     RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   SquidProQuo     12-05-15     112  
         RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   michel2     12-05-15     113  
     RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   coldbrewer     12-06-15     114  
         RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   michel2     12-06-15     115  
     RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   Flowerpower1     12-09-15     116  
   Unbelievable   Outsider32     12-09-15     117  
   Episode 13 - The Point of "Know" Re...   michel2     12-12-15     118  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Georganna     12-12-15     119  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-12-15     120  
             RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Georganna     12-13-15     122  
                 RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     123  
                     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Georganna     12-13-15     126  
                         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     130  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Flowerpower1     12-12-15     121  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     124  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Chez     12-13-15     125  
             RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     129  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Jims03     12-13-15     127  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     128  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Outsider32     12-16-15     135  
             RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   PepeLePew13     12-16-15     136  
                 RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Jims03     12-16-15     141  
                     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Jims03     12-16-15     142  
                     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Outsider32     12-16-15     143  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   SquidProQuo     12-14-15     131  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Flowerpower1     12-14-15     132  
             RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-14-15     133  
                 RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   SquidProQuo     12-15-15     134  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   suzzee     12-16-15     137  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   CTgirl     12-16-15     138  
             Viewing party?   Flowerpower1     12-16-15     139  
                 RE: Viewing party?   michel2     12-16-15     140  
   New thread   Outsider32     12-18-15     144  
   Finale - Jeremy Has it All:   michel2     12-19-15     145  

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