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Blowing me away with your comparison of the helmet on the stick marking graves to the sneakers on the sticks.....wow! That's why you are in charge of the editing thread! LOL. Great observation that from the recap, ANDREW got the nod in that it was him telling Abi to vote for Pei-Gee, so why is that when it is seemingly Tasha that is doing most of the work. The subtleties of editing!

I couldn't have agreed more noting that Abi is seemingly ALL the drama in that tribe and that those that are her closest allies seem to be the ones voted out....will Tasha follow suit? Then, immediately after that conversation we have Andrew as the one that is saying in confessional how it makes him nervous to align with Abi as she insecure and paranoid. He's the wiser.

Well noted with Abi....she's so paranoid she is unable to make that connection, that if Varner goes, she's next. But, you are spot on, I think.

I LOVED your symbolism thoughts with the monkey and the banana applying it to Jeremy and his idol. Will his idol be wasted? Will the game slip through his fingers? So many good questions. I also thought that Jeremy could have had another money quote here though. He noted it took two years for him to get it, but he finally did, then he went on to note that he'd love to be his JT, we could be friends for life. I'll give you 2nd place, but I won't be happy with 2nd. I think this could be considered a declaration to win....all or nothing. So, the question comes around again back to your monkey symbolism....will it slip through his fingers?

Great insight to the "hellhole" comments and the karma! I LOVED it! Also the non-reactions to the Peih-Gee vote out....hilarious! Wow! I can't help but wonder if the old Takeo's on the other tribes could have foreseen these events!

Yes, I agree something was fishy with the selections for the hero challenge! Regardless, Savage, the underdog, repeats history. I will never forget him carrying all the weight of his tribe on his meager shoulders. Now that was something! But, it was fun to watch, Probst got to chant his "go to" sayings....both guys DIGGING DEEP! Loved your thoughts with Jeremy and falling short of second place...and, I agree, is this foreshadowing?

Also, Yes, I couldn't believe those were tears of joy, I thought for sure that those tears were in regard to a challenge loss! I was so happy though that they won! I hate the have not season as well, these daws just aren't as sturdy as they were in yesteryear when they really STARVED and had nothing.

I loved them showing them eating the reward and just what winning one reward can do to the morale of the tribe. Loved the chants! Even though the Anchors are such misfits and drama queens they are still our underdogs and I will still root for them!

Going to tribe nuTakeo, I also noted the spider going after it's prey. And then there was Kass. Kass is getting a great redeeming edit, and I can't wait to see what she does with it. I loved that she even read How to win friends and influence people, and then she even commented on what it said to do: Act as sincere as you can and empathize with them! Then we see her making the lucky charm bracelet. I <3 Kass! She has nailed it for me....last time she thought everyone was playing clinically the last time, but now she sees that you can form and bond relationships. I love it. My FAVORITE highlight of the editing was at the end of this scene, when Kass commented, “As if I have the skills to make an idol.”, and we SEE JOE in the foreground, as you noted! JOE DOES have the skills to make a damn good fake II, as we just saw last season! Wish their great minds would come together! Is it foreshadowing OR is it just a nod to Joe? I loved that you noted it too, michel!

Right before the switch to camp nuBayon and Spencer, there was a shot of a young monkey again, and I thought to myself, here come's Spencer, and there he was! I agree that Spencer and Monica got confessionals over at nuBayon, and Spencer's were in regard to being on the bottom with Kelly, so he has to throw her under the bus, and then Monica's was about not trusting Spencer and that she needs to keep the women, so he needs to go first. Sets them up to be at the core of the drama when and if the nuBayon's go to TC, and judging from the vidcaps we have, I'd say it's going to be sooner rather than later.

I thought the IC was brutal, but hilarious. To see the old farts, who can't hear, Terry and Keith, wandering around aimlessly was so funny. And, then to see them all fall over things was just sick. Joe, wow, he even has X/R vision and apparently can see through the buffs. He didn't need anything, he just went! Never has it been more apparent how totally SPENT these daws were than when we saw Angkor at the puzzle solving portion of the challenge. Literally, you could see that they had nothing. I don't know if they were thinking coherently at that point, but it was scary. Poor Varner. It was really too much. They are crossing a line, someone needs to give them some RICE, please!

Great point about Tasha being the leopard, love it! I was noticing the snake that Outsider said represented the bootee. And, he was right, it was presented right before we saw Varner and Woo walking on the beach, but we were hearing Varner saying, I think it's going to be me...! But, we did see another snake precede the talk between Woo and Abi, when he appealed to her to keep him. So, still questionable, but I will keep a look out.

Great comments on everything, michel. I agree that while Stephen's stock did go up a notch as Jeremy would even take him to F2, as long as he would get second place, he still came across naive. It just seems to me that the editors are going to lengths to humble the internets "knowingest know-it-all", and make him appear to be the dumbest of them all. GRRRRR! While you gave Spencer and Jeremy credit for winning the IC puzzle, I gave it to the young lad and Stephen...!

Regarding Jeremy, I do think he is playing almost the same game but he's tweaked it in an important way. On day one of his last game he was the alpha and he chose to work with all women, he ended up being their shield and was targeted by his own alliance. This time on day one, he picked all the alpha's plus Keith, so he WOULDN"T be the shield, and so he would have more threatening people around him. It's a big difference. He also worked harder, it took him 2 years, but he finally found HIS idol. And, he wants EVERY ONE around him to give him a heads up when they come gunning for him. Let's see if they they will.

Kelley: She is seen as a player with substance this year but she's playing so clinically and I really haven't seen her make ANY solid connections with anyone else out there. You got to have FRIENDS, and I don't know if she does. She is seen to be so focused and calculating, I don't know, I think she's going to end up on the villain side when it's all said and done.

YAY Kass! Loving her redemption, but I hope that she is NOT the journey player? Could be?

Savage: I agree, he's looking pretty proud of his hero accomplishments. Does he have the stamina for 39 days? It's doubtful to me at this point.

Tasha: Clearly her stock is rising and she's sticking to her pledge that she made in her first confessional. She will do what she has to do and then pray for forgiveness later. CAn't wait to see what that is foreshadowing down the road!

Spencer: With the tout he got from Jiffy for next week, the young lad is indeed on the road to maturation, change, redemption, you name it. But, is he on the road to the WIN?

Great job, michel! Loved it all!

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 Season 31 - Second Chances: The Ch...   michel2     09-20-15       
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Jims03     09-21-15     1  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     09-23-15     2  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     09-24-15     3  
     RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   PepeLePew13     09-24-15     5  
     RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     09-24-15     6  
         RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   PepeLePew13     09-28-15     15  
             RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   michel2     09-28-15     17  
                 Same location   Dusty2004     09-28-15     18  
                     RE: Same location   michel2     09-28-15     19  
                         RE: Same location   kingfish     09-28-15     20  
                             RE: Same location   michel2     09-28-15     21  
                                 RE: Same location   kingfish     09-29-15     22  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Flowerpower1     09-24-15     4  
   Episode 1 - Villains Have More Fun   michel2     09-26-15     7  
     RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Flowerpower1     09-26-15     8  
         RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   michel2     09-26-15     9  
             RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Flowerpower1     09-26-15     10  
                 oops   tribephyl     09-27-15     14  
                     RE: oops   Flowerpower1     09-28-15     16  
             RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Jims03     09-26-15     11  
             RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Outsider32     09-27-15     12  
                 RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   michel2     09-27-15     13  
                     RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   Outsider32     09-29-15     23  
     RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   suzzee     09-30-15     24  
         RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   kingfish     09-30-15     25  
         RE: Episode 1 - Villains Have More ...   michel2     09-30-15     26  
   The stage is being set   Outsider32     09-30-15     27  
     RE: The stage is being set   michel2     10-03-15     29  
         RE: The stage is being set   Outsider32     10-03-15     30  
             RE: The stage is being set   michel2     10-04-15     31  
   Episode 2 - Change is Hard   michel2     10-03-15     28  
     RE: Episode 2 - Change is Hard   Flowerpower1     10-05-15     32  
         RE: Episode 2 - Change is Hard   michel2     10-06-15     33  
             RE: Episode 2 - Change is Hard   Flowerpower1     10-06-15     34  
                 RE: Episode 2 - Change is Hard   michel2     10-06-15     35  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     10-08-15     36  
   Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   michel2     10-10-15     37  
     RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   Flowerpower1     10-10-15     38  
         RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   michel2     10-12-15     42  
     RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   Georganna     10-11-15     40  
         RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   michel2     10-12-15     43  
     RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   Flowerpower1     10-11-15     41  
         RE: Episode 3 - Let's Do the Twist!   michel2     10-12-15     44  
   Some tweaks   Outsider32     10-11-15     39  
     RE: Some tweaks   michel2     10-12-15     45  
         RE: Some tweaks   Outsider32     10-13-15     46  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     10-15-15     47  
   Episode 4 - Evolution and Change   michel2     10-16-15     48  
     RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   Flowerpower1     10-17-15     49  
         RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   Outsider32     10-17-15     50  
         RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   suzzee     10-19-15     52  
             RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   michel2     10-19-15     54  
         RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   michel2     10-19-15     53  
             RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   Flowerpower1     10-19-15     55  
                 RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   michel2     10-19-15     56  
                 RE: Episode 4 - Evolution and Chang...   Outsider32     10-19-15     57  
   My style   Outsider32     10-17-15     51  
   Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Message:   michel2     10-24-15     58  
     RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   Flowerpower1     10-24-15     59  
         RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   michel2     10-24-15     60  
             RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   Flowerpower1     10-25-15     61  
     RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   suzzee     10-28-15     62  
     RE: Episode 5 - Sending a Bad Messa...   Outsider32     10-28-15     63  
   RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   b1whois     10-30-15     64  
     RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   Outsider32     10-30-15     65  
     RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   michel2     10-31-15     67  
         RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   b1whois     11-02-15     71  
             RE: Season 31 - Second Chances: Th...   michel2     11-02-15     72  
   Episode 6 - Setting the Tenor for t...   michel2     10-31-15     66  
     RE: Episode 6 - Setting the Tenor f...   Outsider32     11-01-15     68  
     RE: Episode 6 - Setting the Tenor f...   Flowerpower1     11-02-15     69  
         RE: Episode 6 - Setting the Tenor f...   michel2     11-02-15     70  
   Episode 7 - It's Like Day One Again...   michel2     11-07-15     73  
     RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   CTgirl     11-09-15     74  
         RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   michel2     11-09-15     75  
     RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   Flowerpower1     11-10-15     76  
         RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   michel2     11-10-15     77  
             RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   Flowerpower1     11-11-15     78  
                 RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   michel2     11-11-15     79  
                     RE: Episode 7 - It's Like Day One A...   Flowerpower1     11-12-15     82  
   Score 1   Outsider32     11-11-15     80  
     RE: Score 1   Outsider32     11-12-15     81  
   Boots building up/surprising endgam...   Outsider32     11-12-15     83  
   Episode 8 - The Game is Always Chan...   michel2     11-14-15     84  
     RE: Episode 8 - The Game is Always ...   Flowerpower1     11-17-15     85  
         RE: Episode 8 - The Game is Always ...   michel2     11-17-15     89  
     RE: Episode 8 - The Game is Always ...   kingfish     11-17-15     86  
         RE: Episode 8 - The Game is Always ...   michel2     11-17-15     87  
             One other thing....   Flowerpower1     11-17-15     88  
                 RE: One other thing....   Rembrandt     11-17-15     90  
                 RE: One other thing....   michel2     11-17-15     91  
                     RE: One other thing....   Flowerpower1     11-17-15     92  
                         RE: One other thing....   PepeLePew13     11-17-15     93  
                         RE: One other thing....   michel2     11-18-15     94  
   Ep 9 quick thoughts   television2     11-19-15     95  
     RE: Ep 9 quick thoughts   CTgirl     11-19-15     96  
     RE: Ep 9 quick thoughts   michel2     11-21-15     98  
   Episode 9 - That was Bad@ss   michel2     11-21-15     97  
     RE: Episode 9 - That was Bad@ss   Flowerpower1     11-21-15     99  
         RE: Episode 9 - That was Bad@ss   michel2     11-21-15     100  
             RE: Episode 9 - That was Bad@ss   Flowerpower1     11-22-15     101  
   Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Changer   michel2     11-28-15     102  
     RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   Flowerpower1     11-30-15     103  
         RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   michel2     11-30-15     104  
             RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   Flowerpower1     11-30-15     105  
                 RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   television2     12-01-15     106  
                     RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   Flowerpower1     12-04-15     108  
                         RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   SquidProQuo     12-04-15     109  
                             RE: Episodes 10 and 11 - A Game Cha...   Flowerpower1     12-04-15     110  
   Another victory   Outsider32     12-04-15     107  
   Episode 12 - A Million Dollar Decis...   michel2     12-05-15     111  
     RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   SquidProQuo     12-05-15     112  
         RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   michel2     12-05-15     113  
     RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   coldbrewer     12-06-15     114  
         RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   michel2     12-06-15     115  
     RE: Episode 12 - A Million Dollar D...   Flowerpower1     12-09-15     116  
   Unbelievable   Outsider32     12-09-15     117  
   Episode 13 - The Point of "Know" Re...   michel2     12-12-15     118  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Georganna     12-12-15     119  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-12-15     120  
             RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Georganna     12-13-15     122  
                 RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     123  
                     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Georganna     12-13-15     126  
                         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     130  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Flowerpower1     12-12-15     121  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     124  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Chez     12-13-15     125  
             RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     129  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Jims03     12-13-15     127  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-13-15     128  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Outsider32     12-16-15     135  
             RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   PepeLePew13     12-16-15     136  
                 RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Jims03     12-16-15     141  
                     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Jims03     12-16-15     142  
                     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Outsider32     12-16-15     143  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   SquidProQuo     12-14-15     131  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   Flowerpower1     12-14-15     132  
             RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   michel2     12-14-15     133  
                 RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   SquidProQuo     12-15-15     134  
     RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   suzzee     12-16-15     137  
         RE: Episode 13 - The Point of "Know...   CTgirl     12-16-15     138  
             Viewing party?   Flowerpower1     12-16-15     139  
                 RE: Viewing party?   michel2     12-16-15     140  
   New thread   Outsider32     12-18-15     144  
   Finale - Jeremy Has it All:   michel2     12-19-15     145  

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