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"S30 | Episode 11 | Vidcap Analysis *No Sources* "
tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-23-15, 12:55 PM (EST)
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"S30 | Episode 11 | Vidcap Analysis *No Sources* " |
This is the vidcap depository and vidcap discussion thread for Ep11.
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suzzee 5961 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-23-15, 02:53 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Post Show Promo" |
Funny you should point this out. The first thing that came to mind when I looked at these was that Mike looked awfully well groomed in these shots.
I should be watched....closely.
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Flowerpower1 4361 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-23-15, 05:20 PM (EST)
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5. "Wording..." |
LAST EDITED ON 04-24-15 AT 08:08 AM (EST)Gotta love the verbiage in this promo: JP: While Tyler turns on one of his own. Are you kidding me, Jiffy? For Tyler to turn on one of his own, it would have to be Carolyn. Or, perhaps one of Carolyn, Rodney, or Will. He's never been with Dan or Sierra. All of this verbiage from last nights show and this promo is forcing us to think that now Tyler is with Dan and Sierra just as much as he's with Rodney, Will, and Carolyn, which we know just is NOT so. I just can't help but feel it's too much manipulation by the editors.
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CTgirl 8013 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-23-15, 07:56 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Wording..." |
If Mike is the winner, I think they are manipulating the editing to seem like he is in more trouble than he really is. And they are really forcing that!
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-23-15, 10:29 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Wording..." |
Its pretty obvious Mike is the winner. If not, it's Tyler.
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-23-15, 10:44 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Wording..." |
Precisely. I said in the ECST that we are being played. I think the bit about Mike having only Shirin and Jenn to depend on was in there to suggest that his paranoia is justified, that everyone else has turned against him. (And yet, he helped vote Jenn out.)
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-24-15, 02:43 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Wording..." |
Mike is going about things the wrong way. He wants to get rid of Tyler and Carolyn as a cop out to stay loyal to blue. He doesn't realize with Rodney gone he could gain allys in Tyler and Carolyn but he instead wants to keep two dangerous players around who could screw up his game. Keeping Shirin is bad for Mike, she could flip to get him out right after Carolyn or Tyler. Keeping Rodney is bad for Mike if Shirin is around.
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Flowerpower1 4361 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-24-15, 08:25 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Wording..." |
Okay, rereading the ECST, I guess they were afraid that Mike and Sierra with the help of Jenn and Shirin would be targetting one of them (i.e. Carolyn). So Dan, if he went with M/S/J/S, would have made it a 5-4 vote. But they all ended up splitting the vote between Jenn and Shirin, with only Jenn voting for Carolyn. So I get it. I think. The editing seems to be deliberately omitting stuff that would help make sense of what's going on."So I get it. I think." Well, "if" you get it, can you explain it further to me? Let's see if I can recount this. 1. Shirin goes to Mike and Sierra to join them. He tests her and she passes. *Did Mike or Sierra tell the others that Shirin had done this or not?* 2. Mike over hears Rodney/Will/Carolyn/Tyler talking about targeting him. *Mike must tell Sierra/Dan, before confronting them all at camp? 3. Mike tries to pull a fast one at the RC and get that advantage, he feels threatened. 4. Return to camp where Mike exposes Rodney/Carolyn/Tyler/Will. 5. Everyone including Sierra and Dan, his closest allies are now vehemently against him ~ This is where I have a problem. Why would Dan and Sierra not trust him at this point? Has Rodney convinced everyone that the one to get out after Joe as the most threatening is Mike?? 6. Did Mike and Shirin vote Jenn because they knew the vote would be split and didn't want it to be Shirin or, are they just in on the vote? Editing wants us to believe it is the latter as Carolyn kept saying, our 6, while Shirin kept saying 4 + 2 vs 3? Biggest question: Has Rodney been in cahoots with Dan and Sierra ALL along? Why did Sierra turn her back on Mike....Mike said he knew he didn't have Sierra anymore because she wouldn't even look at him. Something has had to HAPPEN that we just haven't seen. It's too much of a descent from the prior editing, imo.
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michel2 4529 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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04-25-15, 01:49 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Wording..." |
"Why would Dan and Sierra not trust (Mike) at this point? Has Rodney convinced everyone that the one to get out after Joe as the most threatening is Mike??"I think it's the exact opposite. Rodney would NEVER have mentioned targeting Mike to Dan and Sierra. To them, he must have been saying Jenn and Shirin had to go next since he wanted to wait for F7 to pounce on Mike. At F7, he wouldn't need Dan and Sierra anymore. Mike told Dan and Sierra that he overheard Rodney saying that they were voting against him next and that they formed the Final Four. We clearly heard Dan's reply to that: "I can tell you that I saw us all as tight. All of us have talked about final 5, 4 and 3. All of us have. We are all looking at the end game. It doesn’t mean they are going to make the move early.” In other words, Dan didn't find it odd that Rodney spoke about Final 4 to Tyler, Carolyn and Will because he saw it as a way to keep them in control until Jenn and Shirin left. It was something that they all did. Dan still thought the 4 Blue Collars were tight, that Mike heard Rodney lying to the other voters. In Dan's mind, Tyler, Carolyn and Will were the ones being used until the Blue Collars gained majority. Then Mike's dickhead move at the auction made them think he had gone mad. It excused Rodney's attacks on him but Rodney probably still didn't tell them that Mike was his real target and that he was bummed to see him immune. While Jenn gave her side of the story, I wouldn't be surprised if Mike voted against her to prove his trust to Dan. I'll leave the rest of my thoughts on that for the editing thread.
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-28-15, 01:11 AM (EST)
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18. "RC SneekPeek" |
Transcript and Vidcaps courtesy of SurvivorFever.net -01 JP: Alright, running for blue it is Mike, Shirin, Sierra and Rodney. -02 JP: Running for red it is Tyler, Dan, Carolyn and Will. Here we go for a nice reward. -03 -04 JP: Survivors ready? Go! -05 -06 JP: Pretty simple. Four barrels, two planks and rope. -07 -08 JP: Question is, how to most effectively use these items to transport four people from one end to the other without ever touching the ground. -09 -10 -11 -12 -13 -14 -15 -16 -17 -18 -19 JP: That includes your planks. They can't touch either. -20 -21 -22 -23 Tyler: We're gonna to have to get up here. -24 JP: This is going to be all about figuring out a system. What to do. How do you move forward? -25 -26 Mike (talking to Sierra): Don't stand on the barrel. -27 -28 Mike: I got you. -29 -30 JP: Very different strategies. Blue going with barrels on their side. Red going with barrels straight up. -31 -32 Dan: There you go, I got him. Perfect, just like that. -33 -34 -35 -36 JP: Mike flat out risking sliding off and falling on the sand. Trying to set up these barrels. -37 -38 -39 -40 -41 -42 JP: Mike doing a lot of work. -43 -44 JP: A plank falls but does not touch. -45 -46 -47 JP: A nice save. -48
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Flowerpower1 4361 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-28-15, 07:39 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: RC SneekPeek" |
Mike is the human bridge, and Blue wins....
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michel2 4529 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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04-28-15, 11:18 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: RC SneekPeek" |
But he can't go on reward with Dan. It will give him a chance to talk to Sierra but he'll be stuck with Rodney.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-28-15, 09:30 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: RC SneekPeek" |
We already saw Mike and Dan together on the reward. I'm thinking red wins and Tyler gives up his reward so that while Dan is away on reward Tyler can get in his bag.
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michel2 4529 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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04-29-15, 00:17 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: RC SneekPeek" |
But Tyler isn't on the winning team.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-29-15, 02:10 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: RC SneekPeek" |
Thats what I was about to say, I don't think it meant his team wins. But that just makes too much sense I mean none of these people saw SJDS so they know nothing about the giving up rewards that went on. Why would Shirin, Sierra, or Rodney give up their reward? Rodney's complained about not having one, Sierra is not that strategic, and Shirin would rather be on the reward than at camp with the other four. I don't think they are gonna let the four of them invite one more person with half already going on reward.
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michel2 4529 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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04-29-15, 10:31 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: RC SneekPeek" |
Why mention if it's not the winning strategy? Also, Tyler would never give his reward to Mike just before the crucial IC. If anything, he'd give it to Rodney. How do we know that the shot of Mike and Dan is taken during the reward?
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04-29-15, 00:41 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Press Images" |
THANKS tribephyl!Thought maybe some of the captions from CBS.com might be useful. Survivor Worlds Apart Press Images - Episode 11 Date: 4.28.15 http://www.survivorfever.net/images30/s30_press_images_ep11.html CBS.com Photos Album A Twisted Survivor Challenge Leads To One Heated Confrontation (22 photos) http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/photos/1004023/a-twisted-survivor-challenge-leads-to-one-heated-confrontation/ Posting Press Images in order from CBS.com photo album with captions Note: This is NOT chronological order! _0029 "Survivor Russian Roulette" Will Sims II, Rodney Lavoie Jr., Carolyn Rivera and Shirin Oskooi
| _0010 Jeff gathers the group Jeff Probst addresses the Tribe before the Immunity Challenge
| _0001 Lining up for the hardest challenge yet The Tribe competes for Individual Immunity |
_0002 No splashing around here Dan Foley, Rodney Lavoie Jr. and Sierra Dawn Thomas
| _0003 Water works Will Sims II, Carolyn Rivera, Mike Holloway, Tyler Fredrickson and Shirin Oskooi
| _0006 Rodney tries to focus on the challenge Rodney Lavoie Jr. |
_0005 Holding on for dear life Mike Holloway, Tyler Fredrickson and Shirin Oskooi
| _0004 Dan and Rodney keep it up Dan Foley and Rodney Lavoie Jr.
| _0008 Shirin's giving it her all Shirin Oskooi competes |
_0007 Mike lifts his weight Mike Holloway
| _0030 Someone is excited Jeff Probst
| _0013 Mike in the wilderness Mike Holloway |
_0020 An extra vote An extra vote is displayed
| _0024 Quite the challenge The award (sic) challenge
| _0011 The eleventh episode Tyler Fredrickson, Sierra Dawn Thomas, Dan Foley, Will Sims II, Rodney Lavoie Jr., Carolyn Rivera and Shirin Oskooi |
_0025 Addressing the tribe Jeff Probst addresses the Tribe before the Reward Challenge
| _0026 Roll it Survivors compete for the reward
| _0028 Stretching out Jeff Probst watches Mike Holloway stretch out |
_0031 Jeff and the beautiful ocean Jeff Probst
| _0032 A Survivor sunset A beautiful scenic
| _0022 The Ponderosa clan comes to camp Hali Ford, Joe Anglim and Jenn Brown |
_0021 These three come to Tribal Council Hali Ford, Joe Anglim and Jenn Brown
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michel2 4529 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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04-29-15, 11:04 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: 2 immunity necklaces tonight!" |
So, two necklaces, two idols and one person with two votes? Also, the women have a 1 in 3 shot at immunity while the guys have a 1 in 5 chance. Pretty dumb rules if you ask me.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-29-15, 06:20 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: S30 | Episode 11 | Vidcap Analysis *No Sources* " |
The laughing jurors could mean that they see two immunity necklaces and Mike and Shirin have both of them. While Carolyn is into fitness, she is also a 53. Shirin might have stronger hands than Carolyn.
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