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As usual, great analysis, michel. It's interesting this year, after a sneakier edit with Natalie that wasn't that well received overall, the editors seem to be going back to the well and spreading the winner edit around. I was honestly expecting an overly obvious Josh or Jeremy real winner edit, but none have emerged so far.

I think we can pretty safely write off the following:

Rodney - Too negative an edit, personality-wise.
Shirin - Same as Rodney. Either an ouster soon or will be the Eliza of this season.
Joaquin - Slightly too negative edit, although not insurmountable, but they haven't given us enough strategy or really anything else to make up for it.
Dan - Repeatedly shown to not play the Social Game well enough. Thought he could turn the corner maybe, but it's clear that he's not.
Sierra - Just too invisible in the early going. And not even a Kelly-esque or Natalie-esque, "Just say one smart thing in the episode" kind of invisibility. Seems a little Jaclyn-esque since the swap.

Probably not

Will - Has the potential to be a sympathetic player (like a F5/F4 boot like Denise) but they harp on his physical weakness too much. If they boost his strategic talk soon I could see him turning it around, but I doubt it.
Hali - Jenn's presence ruins her. Her story is the exact same as Jenn's so far and they've constantly pushed her aside in favor of her ally. I've seen some people kind of like a sneaky winner edit here, but I don't see it. Not enough POV.

The Contenders

Mike - Kind of feels like the Jon Misch of this season. Fairly sympathetic player with some significant faults but is a pretty sound strategist when it gets down to it. I think we're supposed to like Mike overall but not be too surprised/upset when he loses. Very Jon Misch-esque. Have to admit, the work ethic stuff kind of scares me away from Mike. I don't think Mike came off well at all. I feel like there was too much disharmony going on at Blue Collar that they could have cut out that subplot completely. Why did they have to show it? The story kind of died there. It's so unnecessary. He had a great swap episode so he stays in the contenders for me, but I'm nervous.

Joe - Really quiet swap episode. Not necessarily dooming him (since there wasn't much to do for them that episode), but I've arched one eyebrow. The main thing for a Joe argument is that I feel they cushioned him during the Nina episode. It could be Survivor trying to cover themselves a little but it could be them just making their winner look good in an ugly situation.

Carolyn - What Carolyn has going for her is POV. We were supposed to view Max/Shirin as annoying previously, but she (along with Jenn) really pushed the theme home. If Carolyn thinks Max is pompous, then the audience is supposed to view him as pompous. They're giving her a decent amount of screentime when they don't need to. She also stole some of Kelly's thunder by taking the swing vote away from her (in a strategic sense), yet managing to not look like a total Kass. My gut says she doesn't have a strong enough social game to get there, but we'll see.

Jenn - Jenn has the most interesting edit this year. It's a little Palau Katie-ish in a way, with all the snark. Or maybe All-Stars Boston Rob, with making fun of everyone. Not a good comparison for a winner pick, but unlike Katie, we get a lot more POV from her. She dictates the Vince story, was involved with the Nina stuff, and dictated the Max story. Also a lot of game talk from her. She does make me nervous because she came off the worst during the Nina stuff, but the audience tends to have a short memory. She might be peaking too early. If other people start taking over the edit after the merge, she's probably screwed.

Kelly - The best thing Kelly has going for her is that she was completely shielded from all the Blue Collar drama. Lindsey says a Blue Collar will win the game, yet all of the Blue Collars are trainwrecks (or invisible like Sierra). Kelly, they just have making smart comments about bossiness when building the shelter and stuff like that. The last two hours had her negotiating a lot pre and post-swap. The one thing that worries me (aside from the slow start) is that Carolyn stole a lot of her thunder in the Max vote. I question whether Kelly made up her mind against Max earlier and Carolyn just saw the writing on the wall. Kelly was supposed to be the one who gets to decide the vote, but instead they empowered Carolyn. I feel they could have edited this situation differently. Kelly's definitely on the upswing, but I'm trying to not overreact to a surge away from UTR.

Tyler - Just solid little stuff in every episode. Important in the So vote. Shown to bond with Joaquin and being the middle person, which is good. Kickstarted the awkward Max/Shirin story. He also seems to be the main person on White Collar with the theme of, "Hey, white collars work hard and aren't like that" going. His Rob Cesternino-esque comment about the huddled masses also sounded really smart. Could be the Josh of this year. Very easily could be the winner.

I kind of like Tyler so far because of his consistency. I feel like the predilection from the editors are to sell their winner more this year, which pushed me away from someone like Kelly, but they might be doing another sneaky edit this year.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Survivor Worlds Apart - The Charact...   michel2     02-21-15       
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   suzzee     02-23-15     1  
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     02-24-15     2  
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     02-26-15     3  
   Episode 1 - Making Decisions:   michel2     02-28-15     4  
     RE: Episode 1 - Making Decisions:   PepeLePew13     02-28-15     5  
         RE: Episode 1 - Making Decisions:   michel2     03-01-15     6  
             RE: Episode 1 - Making Decisions:   Outsider32     03-01-15     7  
                 RE: Episode 1 - Making Decisions:   michel2     03-01-15     9  
     RE: Episode 1 - Making Decisions:   Outsider32     03-01-15     8  
     RE: Episode 1 - Making Decisions:   suzzee     03-03-15     10  
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     03-04-15     11  
     RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   michel2     03-07-15     13  
         RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     03-08-15     16  
   Episode 2 - Ruffled Feathers:   michel2     03-07-15     12  
     RE: Episode 2 - Ruffled Feathers:   dabo     03-07-15     14  
         RE: Episode 2 - Ruffled Feathers:   michel2     03-07-15     15  
     a little item of interest   tribephyl     03-13-15     17  
         RE: a little item of interest   michel2     03-14-15     20  
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     03-13-15     18  
   Food for thought:   PepeLePew13     03-14-15     19  
     RE: Food for thought:   michel2     03-14-15     22  
   Episode 3 - Trying to Fit In:   michel2     03-14-15     21  
     RE: Episode 3 - Trying to Fit In:   suzzee     03-17-15     23  
         RE: Episode 3 - Trying to Fit In:   michel2     03-17-15     26  
     RE: Episode 3 - Trying to Fit In:   dabo     03-17-15     24  
         RE: Episode 3 - Trying to Fit In:   suzzee     03-17-15     25  
         RE: Episode 3 - Trying to Fit In:   michel2     03-17-15     27  
             RE: Episode 3 - Trying to Fit In:   Sheldor     03-18-15     29  
   Edit related   Outsider32     03-18-15     28  
     Spoiler?   michel2     03-18-15     30  
         RE: Spoiler?   Outsider32     03-20-15     31  
             RE: Spoiler?   dabo     03-21-15     33  
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     03-20-15     32  
   Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off the ...   michel2     03-21-15     34  
     RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   Tyrone Slothrop     03-22-15     35  
         RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   michel2     03-22-15     36  
         RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   Outsider32     03-23-15     41  
             RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   Agman2     03-23-15     43  
         RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   b1whois     03-23-15     42  
             RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   Jims03     03-23-15     46  
     RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   Jims03     03-22-15     37  
         RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   michel2     03-22-15     38  
             RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   Jims03     03-22-15     39  
                 RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   michel2     03-22-15     40  
         RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   Outsider32     03-23-15     44  
             RE: Episodes 4 and 5 - Cutting Off ...   Jims03     03-23-15     45  
   Re-evaluation   Outsider32     03-25-15     47  
   Episode 6 - A Walk in the Park   michel2     03-28-15     48  
     RE: Episode 6 - A Walk in the Park   Outsider32     03-29-15     49  
     RE: Episode 6 - A Walk in the Park   Jims03     03-29-15     50  
     RE: Episode 6 - A Walk in the Park   suzzee     03-31-15     51  
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     04-02-15     52  
   Episode 7 - Power Couples   michel2     04-04-15     53  
     Carolyn   Georganna     04-04-15     54  
         RE: Carolyn   michel2     04-04-15     55  
             RE: Carolyn   Georganna     04-04-15     56  
                 RE: Carolyn   Outsider32     04-05-15     61  
     RE: Episode 7 - Power Couples   Jims03     04-04-15     57  
         RE: Episode 7 - Power Couples   michel2     04-04-15     58  
             Mike   Georganna     04-04-15     59  
             RE: Episode 7 - Power Couples   Outsider32     04-05-15     60  
                 RE: Episode 7 - Power Couples   Jims03     04-05-15     62  
   Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   michel2     04-11-15     63  
     RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   Tyrone Slothrop     04-12-15     64  
         RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   PepeLePew13     04-12-15     66  
             RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   Georganna     04-12-15     67  
     RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   Georganna     04-12-15     65  
         RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   SuperGr0ver     04-13-15     69  
             RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   PepeLePew13     04-13-15     70  
                 RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   SuperGr0ver     04-13-15     71  
     RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   BigMan     04-12-15     68  
         RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   michel2     04-13-15     72  
     RE: Episode 8 - The Battle Is On:   Jims03     04-13-15     73  
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     04-14-15     74  
     RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   dabo     04-17-15     76  
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     04-17-15     75  
     RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     04-17-15     77  
   Episode 9 - Hope and Despair   michel2     04-18-15     78  
     The Shirin   Jims03     04-19-15     79  
         RE: The Shirin   michel2     04-20-15     80  
         RE: Shirin   Murphy3126     04-20-15     81  
             RE: Shirin   Outsider32     04-21-15     82  
                 RE: Shirin   Murphy3126     04-21-15     83  
   RE: Survivor Worlds Apart - The Cha...   Outsider32     04-24-15     84  
   Episode 10 - A Lot of people Suck:   michel2     04-25-15     85  
     RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   coldbrewer     04-25-15     86  
         RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   Sheldor     04-25-15     87  
             RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   michel2     04-25-15     88  
     RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   Jims03     04-25-15     89  
         RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   dabo     04-25-15     90  
             RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   Jims03     04-25-15     91  
         RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   Outsider32     04-26-15     92  
             RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   michel2     04-26-15     94  
                 RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   Jims03     04-27-15     96  
                     RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   michel2     04-28-15     97  
     RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   Outsider32     04-26-15     93  
         RE: Episode 10 - A Lot of people Su...   dabo     04-26-15     95  
   Episode 11 - Stay The Course:   michel2     05-02-15     98  
   Episode 12 - I'm the One in Charge ...   michel2     05-09-15     99  
     RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   dabo     05-09-15     100  
         RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   michel2     05-09-15     101  
             RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   Tyrone Slothrop     05-09-15     102  
                 RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   michel2     05-10-15     107  
             RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   dabo     05-09-15     103  
             RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   Murphy3126     05-10-15     104  
                 RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   Tyrone Slothrop     05-10-15     105  
                     RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   dabo     05-10-15     106  
                         RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   michel2     05-10-15     108  
                             RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   dabo     05-10-15     110  
                     RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   Murphy3126     05-10-15     109  
     RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   newsomewayne     05-11-15     111  
     RE: Episode 12 - I'm the One in Cha...   suzzee     05-11-15     112  
   Mike cannot go   Outsider32     05-12-15     113  
   Episode13 - Advantage? What Advanta...   michel2     05-16-15     114  
     RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   __Corea     05-18-15     115  
         RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   michel2     05-18-15     117  
     RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   kingfish     05-18-15     116  
         RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   michel2     05-18-15     118  
             RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   Georganna     05-18-15     119  
                 RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   michel2     05-18-15     120  
                     RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   Georganna     05-18-15     124  
     RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   suzzee     05-18-15     121  
         RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   michel2     05-18-15     122  
     RE: Episode13 - Advantage? What Adv...   CTgirl     05-18-15     123  

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