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savannah_allen 26 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 02:59 PM (EST) "Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 05:48 PM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 05:47 PM (EST) Why would a woman want to be a prostitute or stripper or even in porn? Most don't do it out of desperation but because from what I hear they love sex, love the attention, feel they got a great body so they want to flaunt it and of course the cash. I feel women's lib didn't help much because women are still cheapening themselves to men who don't care about them, just want them from a few minutes and hours for sex, is that all your worth? I don't care if you get a million, your cheap, because your body is priceless. There was a time women were MADE to be bare foot, pregnant and lying on the back, catering to men needs and not caring about ourselves but women fought and proved their human and have feelings and not to be treated like animals when it comes to sex. You know cats and dogs, they just do it without any implication and walk away. Women today feel, their just like man, are as equal, when it comes to sleeping around they are. Monica Lewinsky set women back, way back. Sex is a beautiful thing but the media makes it filthy and cheap. All this does is make men feel we really aren't humans and only worth sex and to look at, nothing else. They say girls who strip and prostitute have low self esteem, i have low self-esteem but I'd be damned before I let a man prove that I do, I think enough of myself to know my body isn't for everyone, its only afforded to that one who truly loves me, all of me. If women put enough emphasis on their minds and hearts as they do sex, breasts and booty they'd be better off. Men aren't going to respect us, if we don't ourselves. Being sexy doesn't involved showing it all or sleeping around. You can be sexy and be covered and still be a lady but how do you expect men to notice you, the real you with your body out and about. Some let sex define who they are and their worth and let sex control their lives. If sex defines you what does it say you are? Is that all your worth, is that's what your parents brought you here for just to be good for sex, that's a blow to them also and your whole family. The entertainment industry, especially Hollywood is cheap, filled with talentless people. The day of the breathtaking entertainers are over, people just do soft porn now in movies and music, their an insult to real actors, actresses, singers, and dancers. Their use to be a time when the sex industry and real entertainment were separate but now they bring the two together. Sex sells they say but it's degrading what they do, women always had sex appeal, sung about sex but in a loving way but always were ladies, talent, charm, personality, glamour were always bigger than anything, a few generations ago, not too long ago but it seems that way because so much filth is around and acceptable, it use to be, you had a place to go for sex, now its everywhere, they throw it in your face, you can't hide it from children or people who really don't want to see. Some may not have low self esteem but something is wrong if you just sleep with any Tom, #####, Harry and Mary, you just don't give a darn, and that's not high self esteem, people who hold themselves in high regard don't do that. Sex is suppose to be something sacred with that significant other, now it's whoever has big breast, big butt, and willing. I know I don't want a man to sleep with me just for that. Husband and wives who film themselves, how sick, than get mad and want to sue when it gets out, what do you expect, that's another form of cheapening, why cheapen something that suppose to be beautiful by letting dirty eyes see, why because its easy, quick and fast money and a form of fun for some, these people need to live more. Women today are just too lazy, they go into this sex industry because its easy, if you a body, your in but nothing is new, breast are breast, a behind is a behind, you need no talent, if you got it and want to flaunt it, than do it in a positive way, where your respected for your beauty, professional modeling, real dancing on Broadway or something, but no that's hard work, these girls want it easy, well easy come, easy go and once that honor goes it's gone, you'll never be able to run from it, people will always remember you for what you was, the mistakes we make in our life sometimes follow us to our graves, we have to be careful what we do and think things out but most young people today don't and that's why more young people are dying than older ones because of sex and drugs, teen pregnancy is out of control but the bible say times would be like this and it will get worse, I'm not very religious, but geez, its right on the money. I know some may say why judge but I feel right is right, wrong is wrong, we judge ourselves and put ourselves out there so don't expect others not to say anything. Were born innocent and pratically perfect, sugar, spice, and everything nice until were tainted by our surroundings and the media. A woman is beautiful, so much to enjoy but the beauty of a woman, the innocence, and sanctuary been dead for years now. If men disrespect women, I say go for it, but most don't need mens help to do it, when they do it themselves, men just validate it. Sex isn't based on love anymore but profit and entertainment. And we wonder why sex is dealt with shamefully and disrespectfully. Some in the world wants to back up filth and being promisicous but rarely see anyone back up innocence, integrity, honor, and class, I guess God right about people today, anything bad is good, anything good is bad. It's okay to flaunt fith and wild sex but not okay to flaunt wholesome, class, innocent, girl next door type.   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Women are losing the respect th... Cygnus X1 10-22-05 1  RE: Women are losing the respect th... GreenSideUp 10-22-05 2    RE: Women are losing the respect th... GunsAndRoses 10-22-05 3        RE: Women are losing the respect th... GreenSideUp 10-22-05 5  RE: Women are losing the respect th... jelnova 10-22-05 4    RE: Women are losing the respect th... paigesmom 10-22-05 6        RE: Women are losing the respect th... chaines 10-22-05 7        RE: Women are losing the respect th... savannah_allen 10-22-05 8            RE: Women are losing the respect th... jelnova 10-22-05 10                RE: Women are losing the respect th... savannah_allen 10-22-05 11                    RE: Women are losing the respect th... jelnova 10-22-05 12                    RE: Women are losing the respect th... savannah_allen 10-22-05 13        RE: Women are losing the respect th... GreenSideUp 10-22-05 9  RE: Women are losing the respect th... savannah_allen 10-22-05 14    RE: Women are losing the respect th... jelnova 10-22-05 15        RE: Women are losing the respect th... savannah_allen 10-22-05 16            RE: Women are losing the respect th... jelnova 10-22-05 17            RE: Women are losing the respect th... jbordeaux 10-22-05 18                RE: Women are losing the respect th... GreenSideUp 10-22-05 19  RE: Women are losing the respect th... mylifeisunfolding 10-23-05 20    RE: Women are losing the respect th... jbordeaux 10-23-05 21

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Cygnus X1 7505 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-22-05, 03:19 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" We just discussed this in the Off Topic Forum, but I can't find the thread right now. It also had to do with romance novels. "Cygnus needs no defending - his position is undefendable." --Google   Top

GreenSideUp 274 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-22-05, 03:28 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" Who told you it was easy and because they love sex? Anyone who ever did it?   Top

GunsAndRoses 176 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-22-05, 03:35 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" Every porn star who ever appeared on Howard Stern has claimed that they LOVE sex and are in the biz because of it. Prsonally, I think it was because they were abused as a child or neglected but many claim they haven't been. If you interview women in the brothels in Nevada they too claim it's a profession/business and it's all about the money and they take pride in the money they earn and the fact that they practice safe sex, etc. There are many levels of prostitution, from high priced escort (law students earning a quick buck) to the crackhead walking down a dark avenue jumping into a car with a complete stranger to turn a five dollar trick for their pimp. Some love it and some don't..isn't that like any profession. Not everyone loves their job.   Top

GreenSideUp 274 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-22-05, 04:06 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 07:11 PM (EST) I don't agree that those are accurate sources. Howard Stern is a show by and for immature men. Of course they would have women say that, because that's the narcissitic male fantasy. Why would anyone listen to that show unless they are depraved. How did you come to be interviewing prostitutes in a brothel?   Top

jelnova 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 03:53 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" That's an awful lot of hostility and superior attitude for a forum about a tv show.   Top

paigesmom 17 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 10-22-05, 04:15 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" ok. you are entitled to your opinion ( a very strong one at that) but I disagree with you. Since when does sex equal low self esteem. Women have been taught that these two things go together completely. WHy do you have low self-esteem if you enjoy sex? That makes no sense. What about women who film themselves with their husbands? Do this set women back? Does it make them a porn star? It seems to me that being comfortable with ones sexuality would make ones self-esteem that much better. Not that I agree with prostitution, but to make broad generalizations is what gets society in trouble. sorry for the rant.   Top

chaines 86 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-22-05, 04:44 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" Thank you Paigesmom.....The porn industry is a business and just like any business there are people who are drawn to that type of work for just as many reasons as there are people. It should not be assumed that because someone is involved in the porn industry that they somehow lack self-esteem or have been abused, neglected, or harbor self-hatred. Some women do it because they like the $$$$$$$. The day that people reserve judgement of others will be a Good day in my opinion. Isn't judgement, criticism and contempt of others and their ideas, beliefs, opinions, lifestyle, etc. one of the main reasons we are in the predicament that our society is in today? Too much criticism, judgement and intolerance, in my opinion.......   Top

savannah_allen 26 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 04:54 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 05:01 PM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 04:58 PM (EST) >ok. you are entitled to >your opinion ( a very >strong one at that) but >I disagree with you. >Since when does sex equal >low self esteem. Women >have been taught that these >two things go together completely. > WHy do you have >low self-esteem if you enjoy >sex? That makes no >sense. What about women >who film themselves with their >husbands? Do this set >women back? Does it >make them a porn star? > It seems to me >that being comfortable with ones >sexuality would make ones self-esteem >that much better. Not >that I agree with prostitution, >but to make broad generalizations >is what gets society in >trouble. sorry for the >rant. Oh honey, no, sex is a beautiful thing, I'm not sex cheapens a woman, its natural but if you have any self worth you would know your too good for just anyone. Why in the world would you want people to see you having sex with your partner, your husband and wife, and than get mad if they get out, you got to expect that if your going to film, that's another way people cheapen sex. Sex is something that should be sacred between a man and woman, not for other dirty eyes to see but I'm not at all surprised, I'm not very religious but the bible is right when it says people would filthy, degrading, have lack of morals and values and its going to get worse. Some don't have low self esteem but something is wrong if you just sleep with any Tom, #####, Harry and Mary, you just don't give a darn, and that's not high self esteem, people who hold themselves in high regard don't do that.   Top

jelnova 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 05:07 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" What makes you so hostile towards people with different sexual practices than your own?   Top

savannah_allen 26 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 05:17 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 05:25 PM (EST) Some may not have low self esteem but something is wrong if you just sleep with any Tom, #####, Harry and Mary, you just don't give a darn, and that's not high self esteem, people who hold themselves in high regard don't do that. Sex is suppose to be something sacred with that significant other, now it's whoever has big breast, big butt, and willing. I know I don't want a man to sleep with me just for that. Husband and wives who film themselves, how sick, than get mad and want to sue when it gets out, what do you expect, that's another form of cheapening, why cheapen something that suppose to be beautiful by letting dirty eyes see, why because its easy, quick and fast money and a form of fun for some, these people need to live more. Sex is sex, there's really nothing different, only thing is some have more partners than others. I'm not hostile, I could care less but I do care about young people who look on tv for role models and follow after these girls who are wild with sex and want to be that way and we wonder why young america is messed up because the adults don't keep their business to themselves. Today, its come out the closet, let it all out, I feel, let it all out in the privacy of your home away from the young. I do believe in however, what goes around, comes around. I'm considered judging but when these girls get diseases and cancer, their crying on tv for attention and pity, they should of judged themselves maybe they wouldn't be in those certain situations, some wait too late to judge themselves. Most people don't change until something bad happens why not stop it before it does, but people think their invincible and slick. Some women like to be called whores, they call themselves whores let men, its a classy word now. It's pretty said when you admit it or wear it on you. Some in the world wants to back up filth and being promisicous but rarely see anyone back up innocence, integrity, honor, and class, I guess God right about people today, anything bad is good, anything good is bad. I don't blaim men for not thinking highly of women anymore, they don't need men's help to disrespect them, they do it themselves. Don't get mad at me for the truth, we see what men think all day in life and on tv and we rarely prove them wrong.   Top

jelnova 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 05:21 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 05:34 PM (EST) Apparently although you say you could (not) care less about judging the behavior of other people, you do judge them. Surely you're not saying that Allison got breast cancer because she had sex and/or spoke about it on tv? edited to add: Ok, now I've read some of your other posts and I'm getting it. Imagine a person who didn't feel attractive as a young woman. She sees the other girls getting the attention. It made her feel better to say that only bad people had sex. She doesn't feel attractive now, and overcompensates with makeup and clothing. What you're not seeing is that a judgmental attitude shows through, and that's what is unattractive about that woman. Whether this describes anyone you know is up to you. It's an image that comes to me when I read the tip of the iceberg that comes up in a public forum with only limited aspects of a person being illustrated. In addition it is clear that writing is not second nature for you, so your true feelings may not be accurately portrayed. But if my little story is worth the time you spend reading it, maybe it will help you clarify for yourself what your real story is.   Top

savannah_allen 26 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 05:28 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" Some in the world wants to back up filth and being promisicous but rarely see anyone back up innocence, integrity, honor, and class, I guess God right about people today, anything bad is good, anything good is bad. It's okay to flaunt fith and wild sex but not okay to flaunt wholesome, class, innocent, girl next door type.   Top

GreenSideUp 274 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-22-05, 05:07 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" Paige, I was cheering for you til you apologized for your rant! Own it, sistah!   Top

savannah_allen 26 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 05:38 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 05:44 PM (EST) The only ones getting angry are usually the ones I'm referring to, if your proud than what I say shouldn't get you upset or angry. I'm just saying some let sex define who they are and their worth and let sex control their lives. If sex defines you what does it say you are? Is that all your worth, is that's what your parents brought you here for just to be good for sex, that's a blow to them also and your whole family.   Top

jelnova 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 05:45 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" Alicia, please read my post again, you replied before I added to it. And while you're entitled to your opinion, I will not stand for being judged by you. Now, THAT'S self esteem. I don't need makeup or fashion to give it to me, and it follows me everywhere. What you are reading is not anger, it is a reminder that attacking others is not attractive.   Top

savannah_allen 26 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 05:53 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 05:58 PM (EST) Why does it seem attacking? The truth is the truth, you must be who I'm referring to. Are you in the porn, prostitution, or stripper industry? I can't attack or judge you unless you let me. I can't stop you from doing what you want. I just feel bad because ones like you won't let children be children because of your lack of control or respect. Their should be a time and place for everything. I just don't like to see filth all over the place, it use to be certain sexual things would come on late at night or on a paid for channel away from kids eyes but not now. Do you believe in God, or one of those hypocrites that say they believe in God but don't follow his rules? Read the bible, he's the real judge, it doesn't matter what I say but your wrong in his eyes. But I was not referring to anyone in particular, not even you. You know who you are and you don't need makeup. I choose makeup anyday than selling sex to unworthy partners but of course if your cheap and their cheap, your worthy of each other. You don't know who you are if you need sex and men to make you feel like somebody, to have fun, to make money. At least make up covers up imperfections, your lifestyle can't be covered, but your type likes to flaunt. You don't have to have low self-esteem, some girls are as proud as a peacock that they know how to make love to a man, that's their story, that's all they know and their sticking to it. Sex isn't based on love anymore but profit and entertainment. And we wonder why sex is dealt with shamefully and disrespectfully.   Top

jelnova 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-22-05, 06:13 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" As a matter of fact I don't believe in " one of those hypocrites that say they believe in God but don't follow his rules". Funny how poor grammar or typing skills can be ironic. Your makeup may coverup your flaws, but a judgmental attitude is what makes you unattractive. As a matter of fact I am not in the sex industry, not even close, I'm an accountant, same company for twenty-five years. I haven't has sex with anyone but my husband in over twenty years. How does that fit your little scenario of name calling?   Top

jbordeaux 121 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-22-05, 10:53 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" >LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 >AT 05:58 PM (EST) > > >Why does it seem attacking? The >truth is the truth, you >must be who I'm >referring to. Are you in >the porn, prostitution, or stripper >industry? I can't attack or >judge you unless you let >me. >I can't stop you from >doing what you want. I >just feel bad because ones >like you won't let >children be children because of >your lack of control or >respect. Their should be a >time and place for everything. >I just don't like >to see filth all over >the place, it use >to be certain sexual >things would come on >late at night or on >a paid for channel away >from kids eyes but not >now. > >Do you believe in God, or >one of those hypocrites that >say they believe in God >but don't follow his rules? >Read the bible, he's the >real judge, it doesn't matter >what I say but your >wrong in his eyes. But >I was not referring to >anyone in particular, not >even you. > >You know who you are and >you don't need makeup. >I choose makeup anyday than selling >sex to unworthy partners but >of course if your cheap >and their cheap, your worthy >of each other. You don't >know who you are if >you need sex and men >to make you feel like >somebody, to have fun, to > make money. At least >make up covers up imperfections, >your lifestyle can't be covered, >but your type likes to >flaunt. You don't have to >have low self-esteem, some girls >are as proud as a >peacock that they know how >to make love to a >man, that's their story, that's >all they know and their >sticking to it. > >Sex isn't based on love anymore >but profit and entertainment. And >we wonder why sex is >dealt with shamefully and disrespectfully. > since you brought up God, didn't jesus understand and forgive the prositute?? where is your understanding for christina? she deserves the same treatment that christ gave the prositute that He came across. He did not condenm her, her forgave her, and told her to sin no more. Which is whay Christina is trying to do!   Top

GreenSideUp 274 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-22-05, 11:43 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 11:44 PM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 11:43 PM (EST) I'd even take it a step further: I for one KNOW that I'm not Jesus. Christina does not need MY forgiveness and I certainly have no right to point my finger in judgement or suggest any punishment. Even if I never made a mistake in my life, last time I checked, I still ain't Jesus.   Top

mylifeisunfolding 39 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-23-05, 06:28 AM (EST) 20. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" In reference to Savannah_Allen: That saddest things about your post when you bring up YOUR BIBLE is that clearly the bible states KJV "Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye." or if it's easier to understand this version NIV of the same passage: "Luke 6:42 How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." It's sad when individuals make comments when you can't know the hearts of other people. Whether we agree with another persons lifestyle or the way they run their life it not for US to make judgements on them. JESUS warned about that when he advised those who have not sinned to cast the first stone. I obviously paraphrased John 8. So in essence HE was saying if YOUR life is not totally blameless and pure then basically keep your mouth shut. Even if some young ladies state they like doing it that is THEIR business it is not for US to belittle their choices whether we think it's wrong or not. GOD or whatever power they choose to follow is the ONLY judge.   Top

jbordeaux 121 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-23-05, 10:04 AM (EST) 21. "RE: Women are losing the respect their ancestors fought so hard for!" to Mylifeisunfolding..... AMEN!!!   Top

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