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"The Restaurant's back April 19"
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"The Restaurant's back April 19" |
...looks like Adam's Return must still only be 4 episodes (or maybe 5?) because Rocco's taking Adam's reservation (story, still in snarky story-writing mode)http://www.realitytvworld.com/index/articles/story.php?s=2391 The premiere's Monday, April 19 at 10 PM -SB
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1. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
rant Thought I'd start the thread off with a good bash. HATED the first Restaurant go round. Wouldn't watch this train wreck if Grandma Rocco's life depended on it. I HATE product placement, esp. when said product placement guides the storyline of the show. Scene: Rocco in his office. Needs money to finish Restaurant Redecoration. Calls Amer. Xpress for small businesses. Makes completely fake deal for new line of credit. I can take the free car giveaway on Survivor and only slightly cringe at Alias's T-150 references, but staging whole scenes of your show around a product. NO. Also hated Rocco's egotism. Hated Bravo for picking up re-runs. Hate NBC for renewing. /rant 
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4. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
yeah, I watched a commercial during FF last night where the financial backer and Rocco were having words. I dont know if I will be watching or not. Season 1 was terrible.
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7. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
I watched just to laugh at Rocco. I don't like the guy. And I watch out of some strange desire to see him look like a jerk. And he doesn't let me down. He acted like the conceited jerk he is.
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9. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
Rocco is a pompous ass. He is so obnoxious that I'm actually siding with the financier with man boobs.
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11. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
I caught The Restaurant for the first time just the other night when they were having a marathon from the first season and I got hooked. So naturally I had to watch the first show. What a (I believe it's been said before, but I have to say it again) pompous, conceited jerk Rocco is! I can't believe all these bimbos hanging all over him like he's some kind of GOD or something, like that idiot at the book signing. If they all think he's got something I sure as heck can't see it. Anyway, it's a show I'll be watching faithfully now. Just what I needed, another reality show to keep up with. 
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16. "Rocco deserved every bit of the bashing he got!" |
He's behaving like a child, and it's like he's got his employees brainwashed!$9000.00 for business cards?! Give me a break. He's squadering his funding, then when questioned about it, he behaved like a child running off to momma's apt. Don't care for C's intern though. He's a cocky little #####. This season should be much better than the last. I got the impression that he neglected to enroll his employees in the 401k AND group insurance - what a flake. He's a walking liability. C could have hired any chef he wanted, but he gave Rocco a shot. Now it looks like his head Chef may very well take Rocco's position away from him due to his incompetence. Rocco is in demand for pimping reasons though - the ladies seem to love him. C should consider keeping him around for asthetics and luring in the clientella!
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Gideon is here and doing well...
Hello, everyone, this is Gideon, the guy who broke his elbow from season 1....well my 15 minutes is long gone but I'm still hanging out with the old, and the new crew. If you are anywhere near Manhattan stop by and watch the show with us. Uzay, Pete, Carrie, Myself...and the new cats from season 2 will be there...
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20. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
Ya know, Rocco needs to take a step back and look at why he became a chef in the first place. Did he do it to get famous, write books, be fawned over by women and get his picture taken? Fine, then let the restaurant be taken over by his Chef de Cuisine and leave the place alone. It will make money, it will be full of people eating good food and a happy staff.If he became a chef to create beautiful good tasting food, then he needs to get off his ego trip and get back in the kitchen. He's gotten away from what food is about and gone the route of Emeril, Flay and the other flavors of the month (pun intended). Me? You wouldn't catch me dead in one of Emerils restaurants or Roccos for that matter. I want to be inspired when I eat at a famous chefs restaurant and I want to know that that chef is in the kitchen either cooking or expediting. Making that ballet in the kitchen that produces results that make my taste buds sing and my heart soar. Food can do that, but only when the chef is in the kitchen making his magic. Give me Thomas Keller in the French Laundry. Give me Michael Symon at Lola's in Cleveland. Give me Mario Battali in Babbos. Those are chefs, those are the masters. Rocco is "in the weeds" (in kitchen speak) and unless he gets his perspective straight his 15 minutes will be up before he knows what hit's him and he'll be begging Tony Bourdain for at job at Les Halles. 
--will be in NYC at the end of May and in choosing which place she wants to dine has no intention of even putting Roccos on the list
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04-27-04, 01:55 AM (EST)
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21. "Rocco the Superhero" |
Chodorow's intern Drew was an arrogant little AJ Soprano-esque know it all. But you had to looooove the little ##### calling Rocco: "Cap'n Douchebag"
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24. "RE: Rocco the Superhero" |
You'd think little Drew would have looked up the word "intern" before spouting off his mouth in front of all of Roccos employees, clients, mama and especially Rocco himself.
intern >noun (also interne) chiefly N. Amer. 1 a recent medical graduate receiving supervised training in a hospital and acting as an assistant physician or surgeon. 2 a student or trainee who does a job to gain work experience or for a qualification. >verb 1 confine as a prisoner. 2 chiefly N. Amer. serve as an intern. Drew may have been Jeffrey's intern but when he walked into Roccos as his assignment he became Roccos intern. Telling Emily that he was there to observe but if he saw says of improving things he'd help them see it, getting behind the bar and serving alcohol? At 20 years old?! Sheesh, what an idiot. Calling Rocco "Captain Douchebag"? Holy macaroni! First off, who calls anyone a "douchebag" anymore? I mean really. Way to show your immaturaty hoser. He might have well called him a zoom dweebie! Acting all indignent when he got fired. (Which by the way I'm sure Rocco will owe Donald Trump tons of money for using the phrase "you're fired"...  I got a total kick out of Mama when Rocco finally arrived at the restaurant. She greats him at the front and tries to start a chant. "Rocco...oh it's Rocco!" "Rocco, Rocco, Rocco..."  Personally I have no great love for ANY of the people in that restaurant. The only ones who seems to have any sense at all are Laurent and the Chef de Cuisine. Oh and what the hell was up with that new server chick. Julie? Was that her name? Mixing up orders, having the nerve to say that her trainer kept disappearing, telling customers who are obviously pissed off and asking for Rocco "He's here very occassionally. Actually, I don't know what his problem is...". Way to go pinbrain... Sheesh! I'm suprised anyone got their food at all! *pauses to read what she just wrote* Wow, you think I might have some strong opinion about this charade? *grin*
--promises everyone that when she becomes a chef she'll stay where she belongs...in the kitchen
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26. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-27-04 AT 12:11 PM (EST)This show really is a train wreck. I don't know who or what's worse, Rocco, the Interninator, Convict Chodorow, the millisecond footage of his Krusty The Clown son, Cryptkeeper Momma, the wanna-be actresses posing as restaurant staff, or the sad, obvious voice-overs (even more obvious than The Apprentice's) and re-shot scenes. But like a train wreck, you can't help but watch. And it me, did the Rocco they showed all frustrated before one of the commerical breaks and the grinning tight-skinned freak they showed in the Days Of Our Lives promo that aired immediately next look like two different people?!?! Either Rocco's had some work done, or he lost like 30 pounds or something...
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LAST EDITED ON 04-27-04 AT 12:40 PM (EST)>I thought the same thing webby! Of course he wasn't
>doing all those promos on the same day, but that
>particular cut was so obviously on different days (weeks even)
>that I did a double take. It was like Fat Elvis and Young Elvis. First fat Rocco... then his younger, better looking, and thinner twin. Reminded me of one of those diet commercials. >Oh and webby, is anyone summarizing these? I'd like to
>take a crack at it if it's okay with you. AK and I have been taking some mild shots at them on the news stories page, but I'm not aware of anyone during Restaurant summaries, feel free, this show is so ripe for it. -SB
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31. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
The thing is, that Rocco is pretty much gone, but his family recipies will remain in the restaurant. Quite the burn, I must say, but Rocco deserves what he put into it... no comment.
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32. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
That awfulplasticsurgery.com site is a RIOT!!! Seriously tho, Rocco is an #####, the girls who who ga-ga after him all seem to be kind of stupid plastic people who deserve an idiot like him. The show is obviously clearly edited to make him look like this studly superstar. Most girls I know can't stand him. Drew was an idiot but it was great to see him at least challenge Rocco and put him in his place. Too bad he got fired - he was fun to watch. I never thought I'd find myself rooting for upper management but I hope Chodorow and his henchmen take Rocco to the cleaners!
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05-03-04, 05:42 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
Pretty sure... we'll find out tonight. 
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55. "Brazillian steak house" |
Coincidentally, a few days after this post, my local alternative weekly had a review of a restaurant's upcoming conversion to the Brazillian steakhouse format. I've just been waiting for their website to update to post this finally.Tangentially, not only is this paper named the Rhinoceros Times, but the review author is Orson Scott Card prominent SF author. He lives locally and writes a couple of columns for this paper, one on international politics and this other one, "Uncle Orson Reviews Everything" in which he pretty much does just that. The link to the full article. Uncle Orson Reviews Everything
A New Leblon, Dumb Idol Voters & 13/30 By Orson Scott Card For a couple of weeks, starting on May 30, don’t plan to go to Leblon. The restaurant, for many years one of Greensboro’s finest, will be temporarily closed. The good news is that when the doors reopen, Leblon will have undergone a transformation. Now it will be called “Leblon Brazilian Steakhouse.” No, that doesn’t mean it’s trying to compete with Lone Star or The Outback or even Gate City Chop House. Leblon is becoming a churrascaria. In the past I’ve reviewed churrascarias in Utah and New York; there are also fine examples in Chicago, Atlanta and other major cities. In fact, you might think of churrascarias as a new major league of dining, and we’re about to get a first-rate team. What is a churrascaria? Think of it as “continuous dining.” After you’ve finished your salads – or immediately, if you want to skip the salad bar – you turn over the red marker (“ficha”) at your table, revealing the green side. Green as in “go.” From then on, until you flip the ficha back to red and stagger out of the restaurant, the waiters will bring you … meat. Spit-roasted meat, still on the skewer (actually, more like a sword!), which they slice off at your table. Several different cuts of beef, which you can either take from the outside (well done) or from deep in the middle (rare). Pork, lamb shoulder, chicken drumsticks, bacon-wrapped turkey breast, and, for variety, platters of grilled salmon. In other words, all kinds of different meats in the same meal. It’s Atkins-diet heaven. And this won’t be just any meat. This will be Leblon-quality meat, cooked to the highest standards of Brazilian cuisine. What if you really don’t want a meal consisting entirely of meat and fish? Never fear. The salad bar, which will, of course, be up to chef Walter Vanucci’s exacting standards, is a meal in itself – vegetarians can opt for just the salad bar, at a lower price. Along with the expected salad ingredients, there will be more exotic fare – chilled asparagus, sundried tomatoes, artichoke hearts, fresh mozzarella and ceviche-style mushrooms. Also, because it is a Brazilian restaurant, there’ll be black beans, rice, farofa and potato salad (called “mayonese” in Brazil), plus whatever extras Walter and Ilma Vanucci decide to put on their tasting table. For those who know Leblon, most of what you already loved about the restaurant will still be there. But as a churrascaria, it will offer new advantages. First, you can begin eating as soon as you arrive. The waiter takes your drink orders and you head for the salad bar – or flip over your ficha and start in on the meat, which will be sizzling and freshly cooked all through the evening. Second, you know exactly what you’re going to pay when you walk in the door. The introductory price this first summer will be $27 a person for the full meal, or $19 a person for the salad bar only. (These prices are low, compared to what you pay at churrascarias in big cities.) Drinks – which will continue to include the Brazilian soft drink guaraná as one of the options – are the only price variable, and for those to whom meat is impossible without red wine, you won’t lack for excellent options. Third, this kind of restaurant is simply fun. Are you entertaining out-of-town visitors? Hoping to impress a client? Celebrating? Commiserating? If your guests never been to a churrascaria, you’ll have the pleasure of introducing them to what promises to be one of the best in the country. (After all, Leblon is already the best traditional Brazilian restaurant I’ve found in the States.) And if your guests have been to a churrascaria before, then as soon as you mention that Greensboro has one, they’ll be eager to go. So … you have the month of May in which to enjoy Leblon as it has always been. If you’ve never gone before, this is your last chance to see what so many of us have been praising for years. Then, in mid-June, bring a group and see what it’s like to have a cool new churrascaria within easy driving distance. (4512 W. Market Street. For reservations call 336-294-2605.) Uncle Orson’s pronunciation guide To pronounce churrascaria, just say these three words fast: Shoe. Hoss. Korea. (Yes, that was “Hoss” like the character Dan Blocker played on Bonanza.) (In Brazilian Portuguese, ch is always pronounced like sh in English, and in São Paulo, at least, a double or initial r is pronounced like the English letter h.) Churrascaria refers to the cooking method. The style of “continuous dining” is called rodizio, which you can pronounce just as it’s spelled (roe-DEE-zee-oh), unless you want to be a Portuguese purist and say that initial r as an h and the d as a j. In some cities, the churrascarias avoid the whole pronunciation problem by calling themselves “rodizios,” so some of your guests might be familiar with the concept under that name. Both names are equally correct for this kind of restaurant. Ficha – the coaster-like “ticket” you flip over from red to green – is pronounced “FEE-sha.” But don’t worry if the Portuguese words seem intimidating. You can also grunt like Tim Allen, and they’ll take that for a yes and keep slicing meat onto your plate until you get your protein high. ....
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05-03-04, 05:59 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
Thanks for the link. I knew there had to be something, he seemed too reasonable and Rocco too idiotic = tables were tipped too far on both sides.That article reads like a potential episode of The Apprentice - How not to turn into a white collar criminal. Seasoned NY businessmen eat people like Rocco for breakfast, so that would be a worthwhile topic for DT to explore. It's also funny that if they look like mobsters, more often than not, they are. It also never ceases to amaze me that these guys like Chodorow can do big business with a huge overhead and grand cash flow, blow it in an even larger way, then bounce back right away and do it again. They say birds of a feather flock together.... ya, so one wont make the other feel inferior. For instance, you wouldn't likely see a virgin hanging around with a prostitute.
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44. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
>Seasoned NY businessmen eat people
>like Rocco for breakfast ...>BINGO! That's exactly right! I'm a business owner and I see this happening all the time. I was really disappointed in Rocco and his lack of management skills and his ego at the beginning, but NOW, knowing what his Partner is all about and what he does for a living . . . I'm having second thoughts. I'd be just as frustrated and disgusted as Rocco knowing what my Partner has done in the past and what he may be doing in the present. Maybe Chodorow is 'fudging' the financial statements (as usual) and working towards a law suit to win the whole business over to himself so that he doesn't have to share it with Rocco? How does a convict think? I'd like to say "I dunno", but I do know. He's looking to screw Rocco. >It's also funny that if they
>look like mobsters, more often
>than not, they are. I couldn't agree with you more! Check out the Sopranos show. *grin*
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45. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
I'd be just as frustrated and disgusted as Rocco knowing what my Partner has done in the past and what he may be doing in the present. Maybe Chodorow is 'fudging' the financial statements (as usual) and working towards a law suit to win the whole business over to himself so that he doesn't have to share it with Rocco? How does a convict think? I'd like to say "I dunno", but I do know. He's looking to screw Rocco. The fact of the matter is, Rocco did get in bed with Chodorow. The fact is that Rocco is taking a restaurant that had everything going for it to be a winning operation and then removed the one thing that made it a winner, himself. I'm not saying Chodorow is the one to be pitied in this situation. Not at all. Chodorow is a wealthy man who knows how to make more money and doesn't alway do so scrupleously. But the man owns 22 restaurants. Does anyone really think that Rocco didn't know who Chodorow was or how he operated? Of course not. The restaurant industry is an incestuous group. Everyone knows everyone and especially on the money side of things. Rocco knew what he was getting into. He had success with Union Pacific and saw an opportunity to become a celebrity chef. So he got into bed with a man with the capital, contacts and cojones to get what he wants. Rocco let the lights of the cameras blind him to the winning potential that was Rocco 22. If he had stayed at the restaurant, done his job (which is to cook by the way, not to go to book signings and pretend like he's not getting womens numbers and calling them "bad girls") he would never have had to deal with Chodorow. Sorry my friends, but the only people who are getting "screwed" here are the staff at Roccos (because as Anthony Bourdain says in Kitchen Confidential, when you see the "consultants" walking through the door of the restaurant, you better start looking for another job.) and the viewing audience (but then again, we put ourselves through it on our own because we're a sadistic bunch who love to watch a train wreck ).
--makes a solemn promise to keep her ego in check when she hits the restaurant scene
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46. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
I respect your opinion, mistofleas, BUT have you ever owned your own business and had to deal with the likes of people like Chodorow? I thought so differently myself until I started my own business. Then all my opinions changed as I was the Entrepreneur/Employer INSTEAD of employee. It was a real wake-up call!Yes, I agree, the staff of Rocco are being screwed too in this particular situation and I feel very bad for them. There IS poor management. However, about getting in bed with your partner . . . well sometimes you don't know WHO has literally screwed you until the next morning. Right? And this Chodorow seems to be a "nightmare one-night stand"! I'm not sure Rocco KNEW who he was doing business with . . . otherwise why would anyone do business with such a dispicable, convict, etc. kind of business person? No one would go into a partnership knowing that the partner is a XXXXXX! Sorry my friends, I for one, don't buy into the story that anyone will buy into a big business partnership as "Rocco did, knowing what he was getting into". Nope. Rocco was swindled by a mafioso kind of foul business magnet who has been cheating businesses for years. If you can't see that . . . well, don't start a business.
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47. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-03-04 AT 11:29 PM (EST)I respect your opinion, mistofleas, And I yours. BUT have you ever owned your own business and had to deal with the likes of people like Chodorow? Yes. And this Chodorow seems to be a "nightmare one-night stand"! I'm not sure Rocco KNEW who he was doing business with . . . Obviously you have your opinion and I have mine. If (and I say if because frankly I don't believe it) Rocco didn't know who he was doing business with, then he deserves what he gets and shouldn't have been starting a restaurant in the first place. No one would go into a partnership knowing that the partner is a XXXXXX! And yet the man owns 22 sucessful restaurants so someone is doing business with him. Nope. Rocco was swindled by a mafioso kind of foul business magnet who has been cheating businesses for years. If you can't see that . . . well, don't start a business. Again, we'll just have to have a difference of opinion here. I've never said Chorodow was a completely blameless person, but I've seen nothing that shows he's doing anything wrong with his restaurants and THAT is the issue here. I personally don't hold a persons past convictions against them. I may be extra cautious in my dealings, but he's served the time, it's done. Again, I've seen nothing that indicates his restaurant dealings have anything criminal going on.
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48. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-04-04 AT 01:14 AM (EST)>I respect your opinion, mistofleas, mistofleas: And I yours. JSRD: THANK YOU! mistofleas: Again, we'll just have to have a difference of opinion here. JSRD: Yes, I agree.
mistofleas: Again, I've seen nothing that indicates his restaurant dealings have anything criminal going on. JSRD: OK then, THAT is your opinion again and I can respect that, but I feel as a CFO (Chief Financial Officer), that financial statements can be sooooo very easily manipulated and altered to look as if a company is failing or not .... remember Enron, etc? Anyways, I'm dropping this argument. Points have been made on both sides. Amen.
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49. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
JSRD: OK then, THAT is your opinion again and I can respect that, but I feel as a CFO (Chief Financial Officer), that financial statements can be sooooo very easily manipulated and altered to look as if a company is failing or not .... remember Enron, etcFirst off, I do know what a CFO is, but thanks for the clarification. Second, I'm not naive, of course financial statements can be and are manipulated. Quite easily? Yup, no argument there. I guess the point I've been trying to make is that there are two sides to everything and while I admit that Chorodow is not a person that I personally would put my trust in, nor would I personally do business with the man, I think it is unfair to take it to the extreme that in this particular instance (Rocco 22) Chorodow is doing the same thing that he did with Braniff airlines. HE would have to be pretty damn stupid to do something like that when the eyes of the world (or at least the small fraction that are watching the show) are upon him. You've got to know that the CID section of the DOJ is watching every move he makes and analyzing every transaction that takes place. If they found anything wrong, anything that was filmed for the show would be used (and yes, it legally could and WOULD be used). Chodorow may be a shady guy but one thing he isn't is stupid. I know it sounds like I'm defending Chorodow, I'm not. I just think it's important to remember that there are 2 people tangoing here and Rocco is a part of it. I don't think either of them should be labeled victim or bad guy here. Just equals in a tough game. Anyways, I'm dropping this argument. Points have been made on both sides. Amen. I'm sorry you saw this as an argument. I thought we were having a pretty cool, civil conversation each taking a different side. But okay, if you want to drop it, that's fine.
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50. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
Thanks Fleas. I was going to respond to JSRD on each of their above posts, but each time you did so in a much better way than I could ever do....I will just say.....I own business and invest in others..... Rocco should have know his partner before he started. If he didn't it's his fault. He should have some basic knowledge about finacial statements. If he doesn't he should hire someone to review what he is given. Even Hire someone to maintain a st of books for Rocco. If he is incapable of managing people then he ought to go back to the kitchen and cook..... I am not saying that I am a big fan of Chorodow.....But I do firmly believe that he invested his money and has left Rocco alone for several months. If Rocco can't make it work then by all mean Chorodow has the right to get in there and protect his investment.
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05-04-04, 06:53 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
On the other hand, if Chodorow had any shred of decency, he would have guided Rocco on the business side of things, teach him, show him how to get a handle on things, never should have allowed the exuberant spending etc. Granted, Rocco doesn't seem to want to learn, but if Chodorow had at least offered, he could have left the scene in a better light. He's going to shut it down and re-open it as a Brazilian Steak House? So why did he get into bed with Rocco in the first place? We all assumed he needed Rocco's name, but evidently he doesn't.It's their core relationship - both cannot stand the other, so Rocco would never be able to learn from Chodorow, and Chodorow would never want to teach someone like Rocco. Look at the little sh*t he chose as an intern. Speaks volumes about Chodorow. He's a hard man to figure out. I feel for only some of the staff. That little busy body who constantly gossips about what management is doing and talking about is just the kind of person who can create a toxic atmosphere at a work place to the point where everyone is in a bad mood all of the time and don't know why. It's like, if the head gossip aint happy, then nobody gonna be happy either. I'd give her three written warnings, then she'd be out by now.
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05-04-04, 06:43 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: The Restaurant's back April 19" |
Well, shame on Rocco too. He should know who he's getting into bed with. The mentioned in one episode that Rocco doesn't know for sure how the restaurant is doing financially, because Chodorow's people are taking the daily end receipts before Rocco even gets to see them. That should have been a huge red flag for Rocco, because he shouldn't allow himself to be left out of that loop. Rocco is letting his immaturity get the best of him, either that, or he got scared straight, and just thought this was the easiest way out from beneath Chodorow's nose.I think if Rocco was MORE of a businessman and really baby sat this project, he would have been able to either confirm or deny some/all of Chodorow's financial findings and challenge him on anything Chodorow complains about, but Rocco allowed himself to be bullied and emasculated by yet another reality TV con. Someday when I get a DVD player, I'll have to catch up on The Sopranos and Sex in the City. I wonder what the chefs on The Food Network would have to say about this show if they could.
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05-03-04, 04:29 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: at the risk of sounding like simon" |
Maybe but whoever the plastic surgeon is who did his nose job should be fired.
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05-11-04, 01:52 AM (EST)
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56. "May 10 Highlights" |
Well, highlights for me at least, I looove this show in a train wreck-y kind of wayDrew, the lil intern shiit reappears, albeit briefly at the test dinner for the new chef, and they managed not to let him speak. Home movies of Rocco's CIA graduation establish that even in his youth he was a big tool, course considering how chubster he is now he's certainly a much bigger tool today. The laucnching of a catchphrase is official now, it's been in every episode so far. Like Survivor has "the Tribe has Spoken", like the Apprentice has "You're Fired", the Restaurant2 now has "Where's Rocco?" Watching the world's worst waitress get fired and pitch her fit and then following closely with the overly self important fiasco amongst the host staff establishes their is just toooo much farking bs that goes on in Restaurants - 90% of it created by a moronic staff with too much free time on their hands and overinflated opinions of themselves. Every restaurant or bar I ever worked in was gossip central, this one is certainly no different. It's painfully obvious that Rocco really doesn't want to be in a restaurant. When he is out doing publicity apperances, his demeanor totally changes, he lights up. In the restaurants, he is much more subdued except when he is shmooozin and gropin his way through the ladies. Even when he dripped in at Union Pacific, his well established and successful other restaurant, his demeanor again went much more subdued. I think he is tired of the day in day out drudgery of the kitchen, and much prefers the celebrity life. That's fine, but he then can't complain if someone else has to take conrol of the hand's on stuff in the restaurant he is ignoring. What kind of jackazz do you have to be to pick petty fights with your partner, stalk off from him in front of your staff, deny his right to get involved while simultaneously blaming him for not taking a hand in running the operation, finally appear to get over your own ego for long enough to make a lukewarm offer of conciliation, AND then blow off the scheduled meeting where the two partners were to jointly address the staff. I know, I know, the possibility of editing looms. But I find Jeffrey to have much more credibility than Rocco at this point. Even before they showed Jeffrey's solo meeting, back when Rocco scheduled it during their phone conversation, I said to myself - wait a minute, how can Rocco meet Jeffrey at the restaurant to address the staff if he's also already said he's going to the CIA in upstate NY that day. He can't be in two places at once. He can't fly. He's Captain Douchebag not Superman.
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05-11-04, 09:38 AM (EST)
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58. "RE: May 10 Highlights" |
Thanks for the highlights tick. I must have eaten something icky yesterday because I was sick as a dog last night and missed most of it. I did have the strength to set the VCR so I've got it on tape, but I'll have to watch it tonight.I did see "not a waitron" get the ax which was fun but let me ask a question. What in the world kind of "take this job and shove it" statement is dropping a couple of bananas on the floor and mashing them suppose to be? I mean really, it says more about who she is (that she couldn't come up with something a little more creative than that) than it does about whether or not they had a sound reason for firing her. Grabbing a bottle of tequila, jumping up on the bar, taking a good long pull and shouting "NOW you can fire me for drinking on the job!!!" would have been a lot more...well...Bastille Day like. Mashing bananas in front of the head waiter where no one but he can see it is pretty lame in my book. The only other thing I saw was the very very end where they showed the shot of Rocco looking in the window of the restaurant, a little tear trickling out the corner of one eye as he watched him precious mama schmoozing the customers and proudly wearing her "honorary chef" medal. Now THAT made me want to barf all over again. So Rocco is actually thinking that he can get a restraining order against Jeffrey? I wonder what color the sky is in the world Rocco lives.
--can't wait to watch the whole thing
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05-11-04, 02:59 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: May 10 Highlights" |
I did see "not a waitron" get the ax which was fun but let me ask a question. What in the world kind of "take this job and shove it" statement is dropping a couple of bananas on the floor and mashing them suppose to be? I mean really, it says more about who she is (that she couldn't come up with something a little more creative than that) than it does about whether or not they had a sound reason for firing her. Grabbing a bottle of tequila, jumping up on the bar, taking a good long pull and shouting "NOW you can fire me for drinking on the job!!!" would have been a lot more...well...Bastille Day like. Mashing bananas in front of the head waiter where no one but he can see it is pretty lame in my book.Yes, that was a lame performance from a lame little girl. I resented her attitude from the first time she was on screen complaining about having to carry heavy trays for the job she was hired at, hello, a food runner. They should have booted her ##### on the spot for not disclosing her limitations. I used to run into that nonsense all the time, someone applies for an entry level job just to use it to get in the door and try to use an (fake?) undisclosed medical condition as leverage into a much better position. As soon as the other idiotic waitron, Rocco's very own Page 6 Girl, started puffing her up on how a pretty girl like her should be waiting tables, you just knew a disaster was brewing. Stomping on the bananas - that was 2yr old tantrum worthy. ps. I posted an answer to the Brazillian steakhouse question up above
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05-16-04, 10:18 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: Has the show been cancelled" |
Same here, The Restaurant is NOT showing up on my television guide as well! What's up with that? I guess we won't be seeing it again this Monday night. Are they just showing the show every "other" Monday??? Does anyone know otherwise?
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71. "RE: Gone for sweeps" |
>>Wow, Crossing Jordan reruns are outdrawing
>this show? It's so bad they don't want to
>show the final episode? Not good at all. Sorry, haven't got the news story up yet. There's actually three hours of it left -- this week, and what was supposed to be a two-hour finale next week. It comes back after May sweeps are over -- starting Wednesday, June 9 at 9:00, when NBC starts from Ep1 all over again. -SB
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05-25-04, 02:57 AM (EST)
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74. "New article(s)-Major Spoilers" |
Hey all,I just found a great new Restaurant article over on the news side of this very site. It's here. It discusses the new, new date for the relaunch of the series we had already stumbled to in the Late, Late Show thread (which is here), as well as gives some great info on the show's three remaining episodes. Spoilers are given for each of them, including most prominently, a major firing, which I won't spoil. You'll have to go read that yourself. While reading the RTW story and following various links off it to previous RTW stories, I went back to one about Chodorow's legal woes I had only skimmed before. I wish I had paid it more attention back when it first came out. Down at the bottom it has a link to a New York Magazine story from April 26th. Here is its link. This story is fabulous. I could kick myself for missing it for a month now. My favorite quotes: Rocco claims I cooked the books,” says Jeffrey Chodorow, helping himself to a sparerib at China Grill, the first of his restaurant ventures. Chodorow is large man, over six feet, with an olive complexion, dark eyes, and a luxuriant growth of facial hair that stops just short of a full beard. “I didn’t, but if I had, I would have been the only one of the two of us cooking at that restaurant.” So Rocco’s was born, with Rocco’s name emblazoned on every possible surface. There was a certain Potemkin-village quality to the cooking. The ravioli could be almost raw. Wherever the camera happened to be pointed was automatically the best table in the house—and the rest of the restaurant was Siberia. Rocco’s faults—as with everything else about Rocco—are well known, but he’s clearly been stung by his battle with Chodorow. One recent afternoon, he became so incensed at a manager who refused to send a busboy to his office with a bottle of water that he wound up in what he called “a bit of a shoving situation,” after which the police were called. According to sworn affidavits, DiSpirito screamed, “If you set foot in my restaurant again, you are a ##### dead man . . . I am going to ##### kill you.’’ ...a freaking sensational article, with lots more juicy dirt on the legal fight in addition to the highlights I quoted above, AND it first tips the firing spoiler a month ago. The RTW news story also discusses the restaurant Rocco's imminent closing and ultimate fate of conversion to a Brazillian steakhouse. (a restaurant concept I explained in a post here - i am a linking fool tonight) AAAAnd, don't forget Restaurant fans, when Rocco was on the Late Late Show last week, they promo'd that Jeffrey would be on this week sometime to give his side of the story. It wasn't tonight and as yet there is only a partial guest schedule for this week posted on the NBC website so keep on the lookout for that.
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05-25-04, 08:29 AM (EST)
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75. "RE: New article(s)-Major Spoilers" |
Thanks tick, you linking fool you!This part: In the fifth episode, while Jeffrey and his team are meeting to discuss giving head chef Tony a raise,Rocco fires him and attempts to wrest back control of the kitchen Jives with the information I got when I called the restaurant for reservations this Friday night, that Gavin is doing the cooking now. With Mama still being listed as "Head Chef". Which really...means nothing except she makes the meatballs and schmoozes in her sons absence. According to sworn affidavits, DiSpirito screamed, “If you set foot in my restaurant again, you are a ##### dead man . . . I am going to ##### kill you.’’ See now, here is where Rocco forgot "Chef Cursing 101". It is appropriate to threaten to kill someone in your kitchen, but only if they're in the weeds and have not gotten their part of the order ready for the six top while the rest of the food sits languishing under the heat lamps. Such threats for the non-watering of a chef that isn't even in the kitchen is clearly noted and frowned upon in chapter 4, subarticle 2 in the "Chefs Handbook" labelled "Chef Cursing, When to Check Your Ego At the Door".
--is calling to cancel her reservations today
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05-25-04, 09:14 AM (EST)
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76. "RE: New article(s)-Major Spoilers" |
Seems I recall BRAVO would replay the episodes. Are they planning on re-airing the second season at all? I missed the last episode.
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05-29-04, 03:23 PM (EST)
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78. "Starts up tonight May 29" |
FYI the show picks up again where it left off with two new episodes to air tonight from 8-10 pm eastern.
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05-29-04, 08:20 PM (EST)
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79. "the show is so staged its PATHETIC!!" |
This is the furthest from a "reality show" I've ever seen. Its almost like they gave everybody a script and told them Ok, here you run your fingers thru your hair and shrug, here you say "I don't know....I don't know if I can do it..." Why don't they just admit this is Rocco's scripted plea for public sympathy and be done with it??? Arghhhh I don't know if I can watch any more.....
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05-29-04, 09:35 PM (EST)
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80. "The way Tony was fired!!!" |
What's with the gestapo tactics??? They break into his locker and take his stuff and tell him he can't go back inside the restaurant??? Rocco and his henchmen are evil paranoid psychotic narcisissistic losers!!!!
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81. "RE: The way Tony was fired!!!" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-10-04 AT 09:31 AM (EST)>What's with the gestapo tactics??? They
>break into his locker and
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>inside the restaurant??? I had to register to respond to you so you don't misunderstand this. As a restaurant manager I can truly tell you that this IS the way it is done in real life. Even with the neighbor Pizza Huts, they terminate a manager and that manager is automatically banned from the restaurant, the personal belongins you may have there are boxed and normally handed to the former manager in the parking lot and the locks are changed within 24 hours. The restaurant industry is tough and you have to roll with the punches. IMHO Rocco is getting exactly what he deserves. A bad reputation and a lawsuit. You can't manage a restaurant and have other agendas on your plate and never show up there. Tony did nothing wrong and you can plainly see the loyalty of the staff behind him.
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05-29-04, 10:56 PM (EST)
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82. "RE: The way Tony was fired!!!" |
I worked in the restaurant industry for many years and never saw someone treated with such disrespect. Presumably they wanted to prevent him from going back in and trashing the place or badmouthing Rocco. But by showing such hostility, they caused themselves to be held up to public ridicule.
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83. "RE: The way Tony was fired!!!" |
I've worked in it for 30 years and have only seen this happen twice. Once with a manager that had such loyalty that the rest of the kitchen staff would have walked out if he said so. The second time was with a manger who probably would have trashed the place. Each time I was the one coming in. Luckily this has never happened to me (yet) LOL
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05-29-04, 11:49 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: Starts up tonight May 29" |
It's like watching a train wreck. I can't keep my eyes off it but I keep asking myself why do I keep watching. Anyone know why they took it off Monday nites...low ratings maybe...something is definitely "off" with Rocco...he flat out lies...he is a meglomaniac...He grandstands and loves to be the center of everything...his name on the banner does not make him an owner...I'd really like to know what is in the contract...Jeffrey comes on a little strong but I think he has good intentions for the restaurant...
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05-30-04, 10:59 AM (EST)
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87. "RE: Starts up tonight May 29" |
Rocco is a spoiled brat whose 15 minutes should be OVER. His mother is nothing but an enabler, feeding his ego and being an apologist for his diva behavior. He surrounds himself with sycophants and suckups who exist solely to elevate him. I really hope he gets his comeuppance with this lawsuit, but judging by the way the media and these crazy women flock to him, it will probably just enhance his marketability.
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91. "RE: Rocco-worship" |
How can you not love Rocco and his famous 'restaurant'? What a train wreck! I taped the finale and I still don't have the courage to watch it. I am so looking forward to The Amazing Race and Big Brother. It does indeed show my bad taste. I'm so dumb I'll start to worry about some miserable ruin like Forever Eden. Oh! The humanity!
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06-05-04, 03:11 PM (EST)
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90. "Finale tonight" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-05-04 AT 03:21 PM (EST)Finale is tonight on NBC at 8pm still hoping for that in person flea update on the inner workings edited to add: and I see that Bravo has now listed the repeats of season 2 starting this Wednesday at 9pm and running (so far) for at least the three weeks after that as well
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06-09-04, 10:29 PM (EST)
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95. "RE: Spoiler info contained." |
yeah what a letdown the finale wasif they think that by leaving it hanging, they might entice me into a season 3 of time spent w/ Rocco they are deranged. I am so through with Capn Douchebag. Momma is sweet and all, but her relentless fawning over the Capn means that even she has worn out her welcome on my tv. Personally I hope Rocco gets taken to the proverbial cleaners in the dueling lawsuits. As un-user friendly as Jeffrey was, at least he was working hard to make the restaurant a success, a restaurant w/ Rocco's name on it by the way. What a complete ##### Rocco turned out to look like. From the constant inappropriate flirting ("are those real?"), to the pouting, through the weekly games of Where's Rocco, and to the incredible lack of people skills demonstrated in his handling of the staff, Rocco's reputation has to be taking a serious hit in the NY culinary world. At least let's hope so... If they really wanted to get me back for a season 3, they could start from scratch with a small unknown chef, self financing their own operation, creating the menu, hiring and working with the staff. The basic concept is sound, I'd even like more than 6 hours of episodes so that you could get to know more of the staff. Still plenty of drama left unplumbed in this idea. They could even do it in a smaller = cheaper location than NYC and save production costs yet still get an interesting show.
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