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"S27: Preseason Spoiling"
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"S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
They say the three important aspects of success are Location, Location, Location. Well, I would take out the last two and replace them with Theme and Cast.Keep in mind that at the time of this initial posting NOTHING is set in stone.
However, the time to start filming should begin soon. (If initial scenery shots aren't already being committed to memory cards.) Location: The BUZZ is... that the Philippines will again be host for the next 2 seasons, with 27 and 28 being shot back to back. Theme: Again, the BUZZ is... S27 will be Favorites Vs Family. With 1 tribe being past players and the other tribe being members of their family. (Yes, Estee, your abilities to predict apocalypsii are still legendary.) Cast: There is so much traffic and so many names being bantered about it's impossible to tell who's source is an actual source. I spent roughly 3 hours scanning SUCKS and was led into the miasma of dueling sources (from insect to Olly, Redmond to SurvivorFan and it goes on) all claiming to have tid-bits of potentials. Truth be known, 20 people will be cast. 10 of them returnees, with 5 of those being male and 5 being female. Then on the opposing tribe we will again have a split of 5 males and 5 females all with a connection to one of the returnees. Personally, I see potential in this formation. I also see a VERY OPEN lane to possibly invite a Hantz back. (It should be known that most of the BUZZ is saying that the Hantz's have not been asked to join. So, we know they will.)
Looks like it could turn out to be a 3-month long April Fools Day joke.
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05-03-13, 07:51 PM (EST)
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I read somewhere today that Russell says that he would not want to be part of it. He wants a season of all new players. http://www.buddytv.com/articles/remote-patrol/more/will-survivor-season-27-pit-re-49792.aspxAt the same time,I saw speculation of FOUR Hantz family members participating. Russell Hantz, considered the biggest villain in the show's history, tweeted his thoughts about these rumors: "If all hantz boys played this concept survivor Ratings would go back up to 15 million easily." But would he want to return? He says the answer is no: "I'm letting you all know now even if I got the phone call I would NOT play this concept!" While he believes including the Hantz family would lead to a ratings increase, he doesn't think this format is a good idea, tweeting, "I do not like the concept at all!! I think someone needs to lose their job because they're only going to lose more viewers!" Then he finished off by sending a message directly to Survivor and host Jeff Probst: "Give the viewers and the fans a opportunity to play this game! All new people please!!"
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings
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05-03-13, 08:52 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
It would be typical of RussHell to be on 'our' side only out of spite, wouldn't it? But that 'on CBS' qualifier is a little worrisome.
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings
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05-03-13, 08:41 PM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON 05-03-13 AT 08:49 PM (EST)*mutter* I am so overdue a six-figure consultant's fee.  There's the usual hideous host of problems with this idea, but let's start with the fact that we're being asked to watch a rerun -- and the original version was called Big Brother #6. Once the twist is openly named or identified (and it's easy to see production lying to each family link by telling them they're the only one), the name of the game will quickly change to Break Up The Pairs. Every time a tribe loses, ouster focus can turn to undercutting someone on the other tribe by taking out their future alliance partner. Want to destroy Fillup? Don't we all? Let's start by tossing his brother. Of course, if you're Fillup's family member, you may have more incentive to vote him out than anyone in the world, but that's not the point: the whole idea is to seal the partner's fate by removing every built-in voting block possible. In that sense, everyone is going to be playing for the merge from Day One, and post-unity play may still focus on rendering up single units. This makes alliances extra-tricky. You have no influence over what's happening on the other tribe -- or do you? If the twist is out in the open, I can easily see split immunities: winning tribe chooses someone to protect on the losing one. There's some epic arguments coming down the line... (Post-merge, people might occasionally play in pairs for twinned necklaces. And 'I give X part of my Reward'? Sure, why not?) But without that, you're still allying up to protect not only yourself, but your partner. I don't vote you out and your cousin doesn't vote my sister out? Suddenly, communication is the most valuable prize in the game. Forget hidden idols: this clue takes you to a secret meeting place where you can talk to your opposite number for five minutes. I can see Exile Island coming back just to let people talk strategy there: this time, the cross-tribe alliance can work because it's built-in... but you'll have to win your way into exile. And when you get back? Voted out. What else? Or is this when we put them all on one beach again? Gah. Would MB play the 'reach F2 together and double the prize?' card? He'll never have to pay out. How about 'blindside your husband for extra cash?' No, everyone would go for that... but he'll want the backstabbing, so don't expect cast family members to necessarily be on good terms with the Favorite. Or to be telling the truth about it. Note that this completely destroys early tribe swaps, at least by random draw: creating early merged pairs -- would create a giant target, so naturally the show might consider it and thendo it twice per episode. But they'd want to be careful about making too many power duos early. (An arranged swap could still keep everyone apart if done with slight care.) Are you despairing yet? And that's before we find out who's actually in this thing. Some of the possibilities are more horrifying than others. Put this way: the first people I thought of were Brian and C.C... Why not? It's as solid a definition of 'favorite' as we've had this season. (But I think this means getting Taj back.)
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05-04-13, 09:34 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
1. Check your computer for a transmitter with "Property of CBS" stamped into it. 2. Send someone at CBS a consultant statement, see if you get a check.
I should be watched....closely.
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05-04-13, 09:41 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-04-13 AT 09:43 AM (EST)If you're going to trust anyones info from Survivor Sucks, let it be Redmond's. He has proven to have a source numerous times, actually. He has said these are the people he is confident are on (in the order of how confident he is each one is on):
Kat
Stephanie V
Rob C
Aras
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Gervase I am almost sold on Rob C being on. Redmond has said it, Rob also announced that he would likely be taking a break from his podcast after the Caramoan finale and S27 will likely start shooting only a few weeks later. Watch the most recent Survivor Aftershow with him and Parvati, and she pretty much blows up his spot. She reveals that he has been doing huge workouts to try and get shredded, and teases by asking if he plans on going to any islands in the summer. It was pretty funny. Stephanie Valencia is an odd choice, though. Looking at how the tribe looks like so far, I can see her being in trouble very early already. Gervase is great, but Im surprised they are bringing someone back all the way from S1 who has never returned before. I guess maybe he could be an alternate? Who knows. Oh, and the people over at survivor sucks are saying the location is in Luzon in the Philippines. Specifically, the Palaui Islands. I dont mind it being in the Philippines again actually, especially since they are going to a different part of it.
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05-04-13, 10:51 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
To tell you the truth, I don't really trust anyone from that place of chaos but Missyae has repeatedly shown he's got the goods when it comes to *who* is on the show, as compared to where they finish or might do in the game. He'll occasionally get his in-game info mixed-up but is reliable when it comes to the cast.
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05-04-13, 09:43 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
It's as if MB doesn't realize the reason he's losing his core audience is because he keeps forcing people to commit suicide.
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05-04-13, 08:54 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Two more that I've seen, but not sure if they're tied in with the others: Terry Dietz (with wife) and Natalie Bolton (with a sister or partner).
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05-04-13, 10:15 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Terry Dietz (with wife)
Gah! I hate that guy.
THIS casting choice will (as is already) raising my "hackles".
My only hope would be Aras was also cast and boots his lame arse again.
Honestly, I'd rather have puppy-killing Brian than tribe-killing Terry.
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05-13-13, 05:48 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-13-13 AT 05:50 PM (EST)Andy Denhart has a slightly different list of returning players. Tyson Apostol, Tocantins, Heroes vs. Villains
Aras Baskauskas, Panama
Rupert Boneham, Pearl Islands, All-Stars, Heroes vs. Villains
Monica Culpepper, One World
Colton Cumbie, One World
Kat Edorsson, One World
Laura Morett, Samoa
Gervase Peterson, Borneo
RC Saint-Amour, Philippines
Tina Wesson, Australia, All-Stars http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_blood_vs_water/2013_May_13_cast Rupert in place of Rob C? Please say it's wrong!
He adds that a BB winner, Hayden, will be Kat's partner (BF).
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05-13-13, 06:52 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
You really think that's Courtney in the helicopter? I hope you're wrong. We have Tyson and KKKolton: the People We Wanted To See Choke On Their Own Vomit quota is filled.
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05-14-13, 09:35 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
The rumor as stated in a post higher up this thread was that Rob's wife found out she was preggers a few days ago, thus spiking their appearance on this season. I take that at face value, I don't think Burn-it or JiffyProbe would fear a second super strategist in a row winning the game. As a matter of fact, I think a Rob Cesternino win would be a popular one which would draw good ratings.
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30. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Rob just posted on Facebook that Baby due in September..so they didn't "just" find out. Ummm, when does the next Survivor air?...oh in September! My thoughts, Rob has someone monitoring his twitter and facebook and they will post the odd stuff the next 39 days or so. He has already said that he is taking a rest from podcasting...
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05-14-13, 12:15 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Your theory certainly fits better with the title.
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05-14-13, 04:29 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
and with the logo too...
Blood Relatives Vs Chosen Partners
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05-15-13, 09:08 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Yes, TQ's theory makes the most sense to me too, now that I've read these posts. That's the idea I will buy unless I hear a better one.
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05-15-13, 02:35 PM (EST)
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A tangent thought, but what does water have to do with Blood Vs. Water? Blood I see, family member against family member, but water? A reference to amniotic fluid? Spit trading relations?
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05-15-13, 03:21 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
"Blood is thicker than water." It usually means the bonds of family are stronger than the bonds between unrelated people. In Survivor, maybe not so much.
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05-15-13, 03:32 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Also it seems the tribes are going to be divided by blood (i.e. a returning 'fave' with a blood relative, such as Tina with her daughter) and water (i.e. a returning fave with a non-blood-related partner, such as Kat with her BF Hayden). Five blood couplings on one tribe vs. five non-blood couplings on the other.
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05-16-13, 09:39 AM (EST)
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I realize that it's nitpicking to the nth degree, but shouldn't it be "Blood vs Blood"? I mean, if everybody has a relation (or relationship of some kind) with a member of the other tribe? I understand the blood is thicker than water concept, but who represents the "water" in this deal? And why does "blood" hate "water"? They should be friends, don't you think? I need to know this stuff. To me, if they are referring to the blood is thicker than water thing, then shouldn't those related by blood be on the same tribe and be pitted against the "water tribe" of non-related people? Or maybe they could be related, but all have the last name "Water"? Even better <light bulb goes off> they should recruit "Bloods" from East LA to fight the "Waters" from where ever they come from. A whole new set of challenges suggest themselves, Knife fights, driveby shootings, hydrant hosing contests, keg party rewards, gang bangs (although here the native women might draw a line), etc. This sounds like a pretty weak premise. Hope it turns out better than I'm thinking it will.
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05-16-13, 11:11 AM (EST)
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40. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-16-13 AT 11:34 AM (EST)Let's say 5 pairs are on one team, made up of two brothers, two sisters, a mom & child, a father & daughter, etc. This would be the "BLOOD" team.
Then for the other team, you have 2 really good friends, a sister and a mother-in-law (?), a man & his girlfriend, etc. This would be the "WATER" team. They aren't related by BLOOD.
So the social experiment is to see if the blood pairs work better together/get along better/win vs. if the water pairs are better.... That's how I see it, anyway.... Edited to add: I guess a husband & wife would be on the "water" team.... Although that should be the closest relationship you can get in life....
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05-16-13, 09:42 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
That's the problem I have with blood vs water meaning blood relatives against non-blood relatives. Not only would husbands and wives form the stronger bonds without being blood related but it would force CBS to weigh the relationships. I mean if Monica is on one tribe with her husband than Colton and his partner should be on the same tribe but then why not Kat and her boyfriend? CBS should stay far away from deciding that one relationship is more meaningful than another.
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50. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
I think how it gets divided up is that the blood pairs are both from the same family and the water pairs are two people who were originally from two different families who chose to be together. I don't know that they're really testing anything, they're just trying to come up with a Survivor game that will get good ratings. Whether it's any good of a Survivor game remains to be seen.
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05-17-13, 08:08 AM (EST)
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51. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Wouldn't Monica and her husband, Colton and his partner, and Kat and her boyfriend ALL be on the water tribe? The entire thing is just a gimmick to try to bring something new without jumping the shark. I do,though, see many tests of the strengths of those bonds. There may be no family visit, but there will still be those Machiavellian choices. This time there is the twist of how much would you sacrifice for a loved one.
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05-19-13, 09:31 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Survivor jumped the shark during Cook Islands. This whole gimmick is as dumb as Terry's fight with Aras about the bond between husband and wife versus the one between mother and child. Come to think of it, I guess this is why they cast Aras! Are we sure that Terry and his wife aren't there?!
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06-06-13, 12:33 PM (EST)
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95. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-06-13 AT 12:46 PM (EST)(Note: If you are viewing this in Internet Explorer this post #95 has become merged with rachelOH63's post #40 because I added an HTML end comment tag above this line which is invisible but which turned off the comment tag that rachelOH63's inadvertantly turned on. Replying to rachelOH63's post #40 to try to turn off HTML comment that she accidentally turned on which in Internet Explorer is making the rest of the page as one LONG comment. rachelOH63's post #40 has this phrase in brackets: (comment open for snarky comments...) HTML Info:
HTML Comment Tag is supposed to start with "<!--" and end with "-->". Apparently Internet Explorer also allows "<comment>" to start a comment and end comment with "</comment>" so I added an end comment HTML tag (using brackets) to the start of this post to see if that will turn off the comment tag in Internet Explorer. Apparently Firefox and Chrome ignore this HTML comment tag. Edited to add...
IT WORKED!!!
If you are viewing this in Internet Explorer I believe you can now see the rest of the posts starting with #41. You are missing the following posts (between Rachel's #40 and my post #95) which I'm including here so that those viewing in Internet Explorer can read them... ===============================================
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05-16-13, 09:42 PM (EST) 47. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" That's the problem I have with blood vs water meaning blood relatives against non-blood relatives. Not only would husbands and wives form the stronger bonds without being blood related but it would force CBS to weigh the relationships. I mean if Monica is on one tribe with her husband than Colton and his partner should be on the same tribe but then why not Kat and her boyfriend? CBS should stay far away from deciding that one relationship is more meaningful than another. ===============================================
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05-16-13, 10:04 PM (EST) 49. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" It's simply two different forms of love bonds. Family love bonds are strongest in terms of immediate family (parent/child, siblings) and are in the blood, as it is said. The lover pair bond isn't in the blood but is also quite strong. Anyway, yeah, in terms of the social experiment of Survivor, they've got a farce in this one. Nothing will be proved one way or the other because it is a ludicrous test. I said after the first All-Stars, Survivor is best when played by strangers. The stranger the better. ===============================================
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05-17-13, 03:52 AM (EST) 50. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" I think how it gets divided up is that the blood pairs are both from the same family and the water pairs are two people who were originally from two different families who chose to be together. I don't know that they're really testing anything, they're just trying to come up with a Survivor game that will get good ratings. Whether it's any good of a Survivor game remains to be seen. ===============================================
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05-17-13, 08:08 AM (EST) 51. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" Wouldn't Monica and her husband, Colton and his partner, and Kat and her boyfriend ALL be on the water tribe? The entire thing is just a gimmick to try to bring something new without jumping the shark. I do,though, see many tests of the strengths of those bonds. There may be no family visit, but there will still be those Machiavellian choices. This time there is the twist of how much would you sacrifice for a loved one. ===============================================
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05-19-13, 09:31 PM (EST) 60. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" Survivor jumped the shark during Cook Islands. This whole gimmick is as dumb as Terry's fight with Aras about the bond between husband and wife versus the one between mother and child. Come to think of it, I guess this is why they cast Aras! Are we sure that Terry and his wife aren't there?!
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06-06-13, 08:57 PM (EST)
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98. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Nice work, Sheldor. I'm using Firefox so I didn't have a problem but it's always interesting to read how these things work.
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41. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
If it appears difficult to understand now, just wait until the season starts. But of course Jeff will understand because he makes up the rules as he goes along. I can just imagine the production team setting around a table trying to come up with a clever name for this season. I guess Blood and Water was all they could think of.
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54. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Good guess, I think.But what I think is that challenges will be amped up next season, because Med. Evacs. are ratings gold, and two weren't enough. Blood = REAL BLOOD on the beach. Involves relatives with scores to settle with each other (expect to see In-law rivalries), and animosities result in some bloodletting! Water = Extreme water challenges. For variety, the score settling challenges are held in the deep end of the reef. Aussie rules!
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05-16-13, 09:47 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
...but only 1 out of the last 6.
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46. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-16-13 AT 08:45 PM (EST)I don't poke around in Spoilers much, but I gotta say that this is a pretty surprising cast. Like, it's not very "sexy". It's not filled with the usual crowd we would expect. I'm not criticizing the casting because a lot of the choices are actually pretty interesting. Some of the choices are just surprising. Tina - I figured the producers were done with her after All Stars. Not necessarily her fault or anything, but I felt like she wasn't a huge "get" anymore after that. I'm pretty stoked to see her return again, though. Colton - Just because of how negative the reaction was to him. I thought they would bring him back eventually at the time, but at the end of the game, he seemed to be cooling on the idea. Maybe I'm mis-remembering the situation. Laura - Hantzmania took over Survivor for so long, I'm surprised the producers remembered Galu at all (aside from Shambo). This casting kind of reminds me of picking Corinne for this past season. Gervase - I heard they tried to get him before, but couldn't for whatever reason. Part of it seemed like, if any of the Season 1 crowd wanted to come back, they probably would have by now. Rupert - Just 'cuz it would be his 4th time. It's Rupert, though. Monica - Just one of those random pre-merge boots. The hubby factor obviously plays into this casting, of course. Aras - When going over the list of most memorable Survivor winners, no one ever brings up Aras. The others (Tyson, Kat, RC) aren't very surprising, though. It's definitely an interesting mix of past contestants, that's for sure. 
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I like your thoughts and I feel the same way, these aren't horrible choices. Not all the best choices but none that will make me HONESTLY change the channel.
In fact, I'm over the moon that a couple of them are back.
Not to mention the 10 other castaways who will not be familiar to us but will build instant status through their relatives.Tina was an amazing behind the scenes strategist, whom made many allies, allowed for the decisions to seemingly be run through others Or at least the blame laid at others feet. she was booted first during AllStars because she was a serious threat AND she was a previous winner, which is exactly how AllStars progressed, getting rid of the previous winners first.
She could do great things, it's been long enough and so many other openly strategic winners have emerged that she becomes a non-threat. Gervase was the lazy guy during his first stint waaay back in season 1. I seriously doubt he'll be any different one and two the game has drastically changed since he first played. Laura was a victim of one of her own forging off on his own. Had no cracks opened, Samoa would have turned out DRASTICALLY different. She was "in control" of her alliance up to John changing his vote after the tie. Monica was simply placed on the wrong tribe. No, the wrong season. She is strong, strategic and survivor saavy. If she hadn't been so judgmental of Colton, Kat and Christina, she could very well have slipped under the radar of Kim and Sabrina during the boot choosing process. Kat and Colton. The One World Brats. I hope and pray that both have either grown up a smidge or perhaps are playing with someone that will help even them out a bit. Kat is incapable of playing under the radar, so she's gonna have to really try to keep her alliances tighter. Listen more, talk less. And as for Colton, well, he deserves to be pointed at as the guy no one wants to trust. If he has learned a thing or two in the past year or so, let's hope he uses those lessons. Again... more listening, less talking. Tyson, during HvV, ended up getting himself voted off. He was told how to vote and had he stuck to it he would have stayed and guess what...Russell would have been voted out! Bet he won't make that mistake again. RC got effed by befriending Abi. Who knew the b1tch was gonna become a b@t-sh1t crazy paranoid?! And obviously, everyone learned not to be friends with Abi. Artis? Pete? Lisa?
Honestly, RC played hard and from the very beginning too. I think she'll be saavy enough to turn her game around this time. Rupert is a character and stands ZERO chance of winning. He has shown that he remains completely unaware of how "annoying" he can be. Like Phillip, he will be delusional right up to his demise. However, it should be noted that during All-Stars, it was him with Jenna, Amber and B'Rob in the F4. And had Jenna not really thought he could win, she would not have chosen to go with the Marianos. I also credit B'Rob for talking her into believing she had a chance against him and Amber versus against Rupert. But whatever. and finally...
Aras, to me, was a great winner. He managed to somehow keep together crazy Shane, demented Danielle and crazy Cirie.
Those 3 were VERY strong players and keeping their 3 strategies focused was a mountainous job. Good for him listening to Cirie, great on him for keeping Danielle for trust and good on him for keeping Shane as the target/goat.
It's gonna be interesting with the family/loved ones twist. Going into this game (or any game) as a pair instantly creates a target for 1 of them. And that strategy will never disappear even when the game turns individual.
Overall, I think the returnees will be the first targets of each couple. I also predict that there will be some initial One World targeting.
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53. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
I think people will target the better player/bigger threat of each pair and/or the previous winners. This season, if the cast is as spoiled here, doesn't have the wackjob potential of most of the last several casts, but it definitely has characters and could be a better season. I'll be interested to see how BB12 winner Hayden hacks the much greater physical rigors and more intense scheming and backstabbing of Survivor.
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05-18-13, 12:18 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
I think Kat is more capable of learning from her past mistakes. She showed it in her jury speech. Colton -- not so much.
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05-18-13, 07:26 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Well, Rupert already won his million in the one and only million dollar Player With the Biggest Fanbase award. If he'd had a head for the game he and Jenna would have voted for Amber at F5 in All Stars, she ties with Big Tom and they boot her on the revote.Gervase was lazy in S1 as part of his strategy, he did not want to be thought of as a big threat. At least that's what he claimed. He's older now and his metabolism has probably changed. Colton is someone for whom I have no respect. Granted, it could have been just a side of his personality came out in One World, a different Colton than the one known by his friends and family. If that Colton comes out again he's doomed. (If he got some therapy in the meantime, got in touch with himself, can control it now, maybe he'll turn out to be someone I can like.) The men from One World in general were a pretty hopeless bunch. Taking that first IC win when Kourtney broke her wrist was just about the only smart decision they made as a tribe. Glad to see RC again, she is game savvy at least. She got her game blocked the first time by a mean trick and Abi turning out to be a spitfire, so she learned some hard lessons. (On the other hand, because she didn't get things her way RC at the Ponderosa proved she's someone who just can't let things go, she's probably still nursing that grudge.)
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57. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
If he'd (Rupert) had a head for the game he and Jenna would have voted for Amber at F5 in All Stars, she ties with Big Tom and they boot her on the revote.Well, at the time I can understand some of the reasoning behind an Amber vs. Tom boot decision coming down to Tom being the ultimate choice. For Jenna and Rupert, Rob was the biggest threat and Tom was the next biggest. (And for Tom, choosing between Amber or Jenna would come down to Jenna as well). His actual choice. And the person that Amber suggested he Tom vote for. Without the hindsight, it's impossible for either one of them to know that Amber was going to be received as the "nice guy", Rob played the same game he did in Redemption just with a much more bitter jury. He WAS the guy to beat and he was winning immunities.
But it does say something against those players that do not take into account the Jurors perceptions when they were voted out. Kathy and Lex were beyond furious that Rob (through Amber) had promised them longevity and gave them bootation instead. Bitterness reigned supreme, a little bit like this last season did as well. Gervase was lazy in S1 as part of his strategy, he did not want to be thought of as a big threat. At least that's what he claimed. He's older now and his metabolism has probably changed. Well, judging by past returnees, outside of Cochran and Dawn (and Coach during SoPathetic) their gameplay does not change much, if at all.
Sure, it can be less annoying this time, or it can be more harmful the next but basically the same.
Gervase will be "lazy" (and openly judgmental of his fellow tribemates) and will only make it to merge if there are enough weaker people to either give him a bigger target area to work within (China/Gabon) OR grab the weak together and make a move on the strong (Marquesas). Colton is someone for whom I have no respect. Granted, it could have been just a side of his personality came out in One World, a different Colton than the one known by his friends and family. If that Colton comes out again he's doomed. (If he got some therapy in the meantime, got in touch with himself, can control it now, maybe he'll turn out to be someone I can like.) Me either. And worse for me is that he is "technical-family". As if straights are proud of every member of the straight community...sheesh.
I stand by my assessment that Colton spends waaay too much time thinking about how he thinks about things.
Not 1 iota of that time is spent thinking how others might perceive him during his breakdown/tirade/strike/avowal/etc.
I mean... Even Dogs can perceive how others might interpret their motives. Proving that they can wait until you aren't looking (or even if merely the lights turn off) to steal your sandwich.
Colton cannot help himself. He will take your sandwich from your mouth and blame you for eating in front of him.
He also has a very low-gauge filter between brain fart and mouth diarrhea. The men from One World in general were a pretty hopeless bunch. Taking that first IC win when Kourtney broke her wrist was just about the only smart decision they made as a tribe. Kudos to that. And if I remember correctly it was Troyzan and Jonas (and Jay) whom were most vocal about taking that immunity.
Whereas the rest of the season they guys listened to (or cowered to) the opinions of both Tarzan and Colton. Giving them more power than either deserved. Glad to see RC again, she is game savvy at least. She got her game blocked the first time by a mean trick and Abi turning out to be a spitfire, so she learned some hard lessons. (On the other hand, because she didn't get things her way RC at the Ponderosa proved she's someone who just can't let things go, she's probably still nursing that grudge.) Luckily, it's a grudge she won't have to be carrying in this game. Oh she'll be nervous about making strong alliances in the beginning (which could also spell doom) but she won't have to worry about a situation similar to her's and Abi's ever again. The biggest thing about next season is that every one of them is going out there with 1 person they KNOW will not backstab them. Only 1 but enough to stop them going crazy. (Like Brandon)
That is a feature of all newbie seasons that I like. That you NEVER know if the person you are choosing to trust is trustworthy enough to save you.
I am excited to see what RC can do when not confronted with Hurricane Abi and rather plays with along between Pete/Artis and Michael/Lisa.
She was playing the game. That is for sure. But how does someone prepare for someone like Abi (or Brandon (mikayla) or Phillip (francesca))?
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05-19-13, 07:15 AM (EST)
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58. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Colton cannot help himself. He will take your sandwich from your mouth and blame you for eating in front of him.To me, one of the saddest parts of this concept was seeing the picture of Colton's SO and having the following choices: A. Someone was stupid enough to date that.
B. Someone else is just as ignorant and bigoted.
C. A & B combined with the option to add an even more depressing D later. I'd currently bet on those two as the ones Most Likely To Backstab Their Own Partner. Twice.
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05-19-13, 09:09 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-19-13 AT 09:16 PM (EST)Tina must be in her fifties now so I fear she'll be out first again. I hope she can show she knows how to play to all the young viewers that missed her game in the Outback but I doubt it'll happen. According to Burnett, Gervase was the only player in Borneo besides Hatch to understand that the key to the game was to surround himself with people that would never vote him out. If he gets in the leading alliance he will be one to watch. Laura is probably the best decision here. She was playing a great game in Samoa until production filled Russell's pockets with idols. Monica is so much like Laura that I can only think she was casted because she brings a "celeb" husband. Why not Taj and Eddie instead? Tyson could be funny but he'll probably only be heard when he talks about his HvV demise. I'm glad Aras is back. His personality was drowned in all of Casay's craziness but I liked his game.
I found Kat to be an interesting character. She would have been dangerous if Kim hadn't ended her game so abruptly.
I am not happy to see RC again. She's really only a young version of Sherri. Someone that thinks is better than the others and played much too hard much too soon. Sherri was lucky that Laura and Matt flipped. RC was lucky that her tribe dominated. Rupert and Colton? I'd vote both off now if I could. ETA: Looking at this again, I feel that if the Survivors are on one tribe and the relatives on the other, the women will dominate the men because they are much more game savvy. Tina, Laura and Monica should get along and Tina and Laura are very good alliance makers. Kat could join in so they would need only one or two guys to run with it. Of the guys there, Aras, Tyson and Gervase are the most likable and the most athletic so they'd fit in well. I'd be glad to see it evolve that way because it would mean a quick exit for Poopert, Colton and RC.
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05-22-13, 02:23 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Tina is now 52, that's not so old. Lisa was older and made it to the end of the game in Philippines.At Fever they are postulating that Gervase will actually be playing with his niece not his nephew. Well, even the best source spoilers get things wrong at times, that would fix the uneven gender mix. I hope Tyson learned his lesson, when you have a solid plan in place stick to the plan. Kat is good casting, her taking life for all its best one day at a time attitude is perfect for playing Survivor. I'd have to disagree about RC being a younger version of Sherri, though I get why you say that. RC knew her game had taken a hit, tried to work it out, Sherri just forged ahead with delusional expectations. Rupert proved in HvV that he doesn't care about the game so much as he cares about recharging his celebrity. I'll give Colton a chance at redemption, not really expecting it will happen.
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05-22-13, 04:29 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
>Tina is now 52, that's not
>so old. Lisa was
>older and made it to
>the end of the game
>in Philippines. Lisa turns 50 a week from today, was 48/49 during filming last year....but yeah, age is no obstacle if you've got game and alliance mates on your side as Benedict Tina had during her first go-around.
>Kat is good casting, her taking
>life for all its best
>one day at a time
>attitude is perfect for playing
>Survivor.
Agree, I'm curious to see if Kat will do anything differently this time around. She clearly was immature during her time in the game but I was really struck by the tone she displayed during the final jury questioning as she really sounded like she "got it" then.
>I'd have to disagree about RC
>being a younger version of
>Sherri, though I get why
>you say that. RC
>knew her game had taken
>a hit, tried to work
>it out, Sherri just forged
>ahead with delusional expectations.
Wasn't too crazy about RC but she's way ahead of Sherri, no question in my mind, in terms of ability to play the game.
>I'll give Colton a chance at
>redemption, not really expecting it
>will happen.
Not holding my breath. KKKolton knows exactly why he's brought back to play again.
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05-22-13, 05:19 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
My only issue with RC is her laugh. I don't mind her always wanting to talk strategy and I know she's eye candy for some but when she laughs, I want to stick a fork in my ear! Most annoying laugh ever.
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05-23-13, 04:56 PM (EST)
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75. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
What about her attitude at Ponderosa? Didn't that show us the real RC? An insufferable control freak who thought she did no wrong.
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05-25-13, 06:08 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
What if he wasn't ignorant but was playing to the cameras? His comment that his maid was black sounded so much taken out of a bad comedy that I think it was a line he had prepared for the right occasion.
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05-20-13, 09:24 AM (EST)
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62. "RE: Resurrection Island...err..." |
It figures since its the only way Poopert can win. Voted out, win last duel, win a couple of ICs, get in the F3. Problem is he was never that good in challenges!
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05-20-13, 10:45 AM (EST)
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63. "RE: Resurrection Island...err..." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-20-13 AT 11:17 AM (EST)Ug. Even if not true, this is a statement about the problem of Probst as showrunner; namely that he can't just test one new twist at a time, he has to find a way to sink it if he can. One World was a twist worth trying, for example, but then they had to go and divide the tribes initially by gender (a tried and true twist, granted), which meant having a tribal swap and separating the two new tribes for awhile, totally messing up the entire experiment. Too much tinkering (nevermind the casting issues). BvW on merit is either an interesting variation of the fans v faves format for mixing returning players with new players, or it introduces a new untested format for mixing returning players with new players (even without the relatives angle). Throw in redemption island (a nearly universally loathed twist) and guess what -- no tribal swap, the nature of the twist itself basically forbids it. The fans v faves format practically demands a tribal swap. If it is this format with RI, how will production resolve the conflict? The new mixed format could go either way insofar as tribal swaps. The sad part is that Probst won't listen to anyone until CBS puts its foot down.
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05-20-13, 08:26 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: It Begins" |
Makes sense. Start Monday 20th AM in Philippines, it is still Sunday 19th PM here.
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05-21-13, 01:00 PM (EST)
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67. "Confirmed" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-21-13 AT 01:01 PM (EST)http://www.interaksyon.com/entertainment/after-caramoan-survivor-us-edition-shoots-new-season-in-cagayan/ A source familiar to the production told InterAksyon on Tuesday that the 27th season of the award-winning program — officially called “Survivor: Blood vs. Water” – is currently being shot in secluded areas of Cagayan Valley. The source said the CBS production will wrap in August but declined to specify the locations for security reasons. However, a Facebook post on Monday by the tourism page of Cagayan North said the cast and crew led by Emmy Award-winning host Jeff Probst are “now taping in Palaui Island, Anguib, Poso Robo and Gotan”. The post also said “the new season will feature returning survivors playing against their family members and loved ones”. The wrap in August must mean back to back filming of 27 and 28 with a break in-between to get the 27 cast home and the 28 cast in and prepped and take care of some other things.
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05-22-13, 12:05 PM (EST)
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68. "Weather" |
Looking up the nearest forecasts I could find to Palaui, looks like the first week's weather has highs in the 90s, lows in the 70s. Cloudy, chances of rain most days.
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05-24-13, 05:37 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: Weather" |
Thank you! I guess I should have dropped Cagayan out of the "weather philippines cagayan palaui" search. But the "weather palaui island" searches weren't any good at all.
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05-27-13, 06:51 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: Weather" |
Wow...the closest I got to Cagayan was in the town of Pagudpud, Ilocos Norte back in March 2013.
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06-16-13, 04:20 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: Weather" |
week 5 AparriMonday 91/79 chance of thunderstorms, 50% chance of rain Tuesday 90/79 chance of thunderstorms, 60% chance of rain Wednesday 91/79 chance of thunderstorms, 60% chance of rain (90% at Calayan) Thursday 91/77 chance of thunderstorms, 40% chance of rain (70% at Calayan) Friday 91/79 60% chance of rain (70% at Calayan)
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06-17-13, 09:54 PM (EST)
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104. "RE: Weather" |
From what I've been gathering, Palaiu has been outside the bad weather zone. But there sure is a big mess off in the east heading north northwest. Thanks for the new link!
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06-18-13, 04:57 AM (EST)
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105. "RE: Weather" |
This is one of the reasons why I found the S25/S26 filming dates quite ideal. You saw quite a lot of rain in S25 and that was filmed earlier in the year. Just imagine filming in Caramoan in June to August, especially considering that most typhoons at this time of the year form at the eastern part of the Philippines.
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06-19-13, 10:08 PM (EST)
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107. "RE: Weather" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-21-13 AT 11:00 PM (EST)final weekend Aparri Saturday 90/79 mostly cloudy Sunday 91/77 70% chance of rain (Calayan chance of t-storms)
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06-23-13, 08:37 PM (EST)
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108. "RE: Weather" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-23-13 AT 08:37 PM (EST)final week forecast Aparri Monday 95/81 mostly cloudy (40% chance of rain at Calayan) Tuesday 97/79 chance of t-storms, 30% chance of rain Wednesday 97/79 chance of t-storms, 20% chance fo rain Thurday 95/79 chance of t-storms, 20% chance of rain
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05-23-13, 04:51 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: Calendar" |
Two players voted out the first two TCs? That would work in a three tribe set-up where the two losers go to TC but with 20 players, the 3 tribe idea doesn't work.
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05-23-13, 10:57 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: Calendar" |
It'll work in the way that BB did it, voting for "pairs" to be booted.
Which may make redemption quite interesting right off the bat. The first pair to be voted out may just have to play against each other in the first redemption.
Or maybe they'll wait until 2 pairs have been voted out and will have them play against each other as pairs.
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73. "RE: S27: Preseason Spoiling" |
Off topic: My system isn't working correctly and I need help, please. In post#40, at the end of my post, I used brackets. I guess I should not have done that... because now I can't see that part of my post, and I can't see anyone's post after #40. I used brackets which now I see go along with HTML tags.... and this has obviously messed up my whole viewing. Can anyone help me? (And please don't post here, because I can't see it...) Please? Thank you!
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