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"S24 E13 Vidcaps"
VolcanicGlass 428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-03-12, 05:02 AM (EST)
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"S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Discussion of Episode 13 Vidcaps.
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byoffer 15947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-03-12, 10:40 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
I can't imagine Tarzan winning any sort of challenge. Maybe Sabrina wins RC and takes him? No family involved, but she was pretty vocal in her feelings for him.
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CTgirl 8013 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-03-12, 10:59 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Remember the rope toss? Tarzan could win something like shuffleboard where you need good dexterity and he has those steady surgeon's hands (but what is up with him wearing more women's clothing, this time Kat's?!)
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bertygal13 19 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-03-12, 10:59 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Alicia wins immunity! You can see the necklace in her hand before going to TC. You can tell they are going to tribal because Chelsea has her bag
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-03-12, 11:31 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Good catch!
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bertygal13 19 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-03-12, 11:38 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Prediction: Kim uses idol and Sabrina or Chelsea are the next to be booted.
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byoffer 15947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-03-12, 01:39 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Did you mean Chelsea and Sabrina are on the hopt seat, or Christina and Sabrina? I can see Alicia targeting Christina, but not Chelsea.
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bertygal13 19 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-03-12, 02:26 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Mark my words. Chelsea and Kim turn on each other next episode.
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byoffer 15947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-03-12, 02:29 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Do you have evidence (a link?) to corroborate that, or is it more of a gut feeling?
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CTgirl 8013 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-03-12, 03:02 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Last night Kim spoke with her sister that Alicia and Kat were her F3 choices so that means she is prepared to cut Chelsea lose at some point. How and when she plans to do it could make or break her game. We do know that she wants Sabrina out next.
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-07-12, 07:31 AM (EST)
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61. "Tarzan spec" |
If the others are suggesting Tarzan be the boot, it may explain why Alicia looks so unhappy in that sequence.Definitely am on board with this line of thinking, Volcanic Glass and Squid. And, as Squid notes, the clues fit....someone from the background emerges to strategize and I do believe that is Tarzan. Agree that Kim will note this and may cut his throat...or, aim the gun at Tarzan and then work to blindside Sabrina. She was Kim's first choice last week, and most likely is this week as well. Tarzan could be the misdirection. I think Alicia is the one that brings up chopping out Chelsea and that puts Chelsea on the defense....another distraction to cover the real target, Sabrina. Just talking out loud, here! We rarely see interactions between Kim and Christina. Last week Kim told us when she was on the reward that she indeed had an alliance with Christina since day one as well....fwiw.
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byoffer 15947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-03-12, 02:33 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
Thanks VG. I was struggling to see how Tarzan could win any challenge (sorry, but I am not buying into him having "nimble surgeon fingers" that could win a skill challenge). In your middle picture, if the injury on his cheek isn't enough, I not that his moustache is cleaner as well (much less shaggy). If he won reward and got a razor, he could clean shave his chin (as shown) but it would be very hard to trim the moustache with just as razor as seems to be shown.
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Murphy3126 223 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-04-12, 00:02 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
This was the kind of stuff that caused me to quit watching after Borneo until the all stars. Nice ya'll caught it though.
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OllieKat 72 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-04-12, 01:42 AM (EST)
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23. "Just making sure..." |
One thing I've learned from FlowerPower is to keep my mind open to all options. So with that in mind I'm gonna throw something out for consideration. I figure it's probably there's about a 95% chance that the vidcap showing Alicia with the immunity necklace means she won the IC but should we also consider the possibility that it's just a shot of her randomly holding it?
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-04-12, 10:59 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Just making sure..." |
One thing I've learned from FlowerPower is to keep my mind open to all options. Amen, Ollie, Amen! And, you never know! This vidcap... Kim is smirking, trying to hold back a smile, knowing look, at Chelsea. If she were really mad at Chelsea, she would be avoiding her eye contact...imo. Chelsea is staring daggers at Alicia. And it looks like Alicia is giving Christina some nasty comments and sarcasm...again. To me, it doesn't appear that Chelsea and Kim are at odds here....if they were, Kim wouldn't be giving that look to Chelsea, imo.
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SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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05-05-12, 11:48 AM (EST)
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40. "RE: Just making sure..." |
Flo Po, that's how I read this shot too. Interesting no Sabrina.
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PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-05-12, 04:35 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Just making sure..." |
Kim didn't have any trouble voting for Kat last week - she was never presented as having emotional struggles over whether to go along or finding a way to save Kat, etc - unlike Chelsea who was shown agonizing which way to go when the likes of Jay and Michael were still in the game.
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SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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05-04-12, 05:34 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Full (Web) Promo Vidcaps" |
>Editors are dipping into the recycling >well again in this promo. Yep, what is up with that?! So much earlier stuff of Sabrina and Tarzan. And they're dipping into the recycling well for the challenge too. Wasn't this fish hook/fish bone puzzle just a couple seasons ago? I'm pretty sure it was Rob's winning season with Grant, Ashley, crazy Phillip and Natalie. (Interesting parallels, ha.) Hard to believe that Alicia could win this one. It requires patience. Looks like Sabrina is looking over at someone else's to figure it out.
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jasonkola 240 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-04-12, 02:40 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Full (Web) Promo Vidcaps" |
I believe the biggest jury threats in the game right now are Sabrina and Chelsea. For Kim I believe that the biggest challenge threat is Chelsea. I believe the unlikely betrayal could be Chelsea but Sabrina is not an unlikely choice. The scene between Alicia and Christina could be misdirection to make Chelsea think Christina is the one going home, setting up Chelsea blind side. I don't know I am 50/50 between Chelsea and Sabrina as of right now.
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Arnold_Lorax 112 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-04-12, 09:32 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Full (Web) Promo Vidcaps" |
In this scenario Chelsea becomes at risk only if the revolution suspects Kim has the idol and will play it, switching targets.It is not out of the realm of possibility that Chalsea feels like if Kim goes to the F3 with her that Kim will win, we have already seen Kim thinking this same thing last episode. So, what if, after Alicia wins immunity Chalsea decides to betray Kim and try and blindside her now while she doesn't have immunity? If Chalsea makes the choice that she would rather be up against anyone else in the final 3 then now would be the ideal time to get rid of Kim since she may win out immunity if they don't strike now. Alls Chalsea has got to do to convince the others that they should vote out Kim now is by spilling the beans about the idle. Then they just pretend they are targeting Sabrina and make Kim feel like she doesn't have to play it. I saw someone say earlier that if it were Kim or Chalsea going this week they would be hyping the betrayal even more and maybe they will as it gets closer to the showtime. I may be way off base but its worth considering. Agman siggified me
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PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-04-12, 10:51 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Full (Web) Promo Vidcaps" |
Right, so if Chelsea's going this week, then Kim has to find a way to frame it as a case of being outnumbered again, so the vitriol can be spread elsewhere.
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SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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05-05-12, 11:46 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Full (Web) Promo Vidcaps" |
>Kim has to >find a way to frame >it as a case of >being outnumbered again, so the >vitriol can be spread elsewhere. Agreed. The best thing that could happen for Kim is if Alicia/Tarzan/Christine gang up this week (we do see them conspiring in the promo) and say they're voting out Sabrina or Chelsea. Then Kim could say she has no choice but go along with the majority. Otherwise she'd have to force a 3-3 tie/go for the purple rocks. That could be why she's saying in the promo that it would be unwise for her to lay it all on the line for Chelsea and Sabrina. Sabrina and Chelsea are the biggest physical and jury threats from Kim's and Alicia's perspective. On the other hand, does Kim trust the 3 goats (Alicia/Tarzan/Christine) enough to be left outnumbered with them in the F5? She does have the HII on her side. Which reminds me, when is the last time Kim can play the HII? F5?
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-06-12, 02:58 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Full (Web) Promo Vidcaps" |
Chelsea could hurt Kim another way. Simply go to Kim and tell her that she knows the rest of the tribe is planning to vote Kim out. Get Kim to worry and play her HI at TC. It would expose to everyone that Kim had the HI and did not share that info with them. And it would get the HI out of play so Kim no longer has it. Chelsea could play dumb after and say she was led to believe they were voting for Kim. Kim can't prove who is lying. And it just might get the rest of the tribemates upset that Kim did not confide having the HI. They all seem to think they are close to Kim. This might make them doubt her.
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michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-06-12, 03:06 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Full (Web) Promo Vidcaps" |
Chelsea had to be forced into eliminating Jay and you guys think she will do something on her own to lie to Kim? I don't think so. She could go along with a plan after much inner turmoil but not do it herself.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-05-12, 02:01 PM (EST)
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44. "Boss Lady" |
Were we shown that moment with Kim and Tarzan for amusement or is there something else to it? Who is really in control, or thinks they are?Sabrina spearheaded the Kat boot not knowing she herself was being set up for a blindside. Tactically she is in a control position if she can maintain it. If Sabrina spearheads a Chelsea blindside she really shouldn't let Kim in on it. Chelsea goes, Kim has lost her two loyal followers. Fly in the ointment is she doesn't know about Kim's HII (though may suspect that Kim or Chelsea has it). If word reaches Kim she can save Chelsea with her HII and they boot Sabrina. Or she can sit on her HII, let Chelsea go, knowing she will be next on Sabrina's target list but she can save herself and boot Sabrina then. Tough call, but Sabrina goes to the jury either way, all because she was forced by a stupid rule to give the HII she found to a Manono.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-05-12, 03:41 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Boss Lady" |
Kat voted for Sabrina so that's already out.
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Murphy3126 223 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-06-12, 10:48 AM (EST)
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48. "RE: Boss Lady" |
>Kat voted for SabrinaBut isn't that all Sabrina knows ... that Kat thought Sabrina was the one being blindsided? Sab likely knew who Kat was voting for before the vote. Wouldn't you want to know who the bootee would be voting for if you were in Sab's place? Considering its blindside of one of your own, I'd think Kim would want Sabrina to know Sab was the decoy blindside before TC. Sabrina seemed most vocal about Kat's choices at RC, does least at camp, while Kat think's she she's a "provider", & seems well liked & respected by all, Sab should be able to handle not screwing up & revealing Kat boot to Kat better than any but maybe Kim. Kim seems to know when to do "damage control", how far to take it, acts without hesitation & no problem lying to Mike, Jay & Troy. Maybe I missed something, but I see no reason to believe Sab knwos she was the initial blindside target. She may not be 100% convinced by Kim's damage control, who does she trust the most at this point ... I think Kim & Chelsea ... Sab's F# at this point.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-06-12, 04:54 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Boss Lady" |
Kat voted Sabrina, Kat was expecting Sabrina to be blindsided, Kat was a team player, follow the logic. Sabrina is smart. Whatever damage control Kim and Chelsea have done, Alicia knows the truth and can use that to get closer with Sabrina. With Kim and Chelsea working in tandom you either break them up or secure your own tandom partner and try to counteract them.
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Murphy3126 223 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-07-12, 10:35 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: Boss Lady" |
>... "team" ... "Sabrina is smart" >Alicia knows the truth and >can use that to get >closer with Sabrina.Exactly! Kat, Sabrina, Kim & Chelsea = core 4 from the Instant Beach Alliance since the start of game + Alicia, who is not well liked & was separated from the rest for a while. Sabrina knows Kat would not vote Sabrina & talk of blindside without Kim, Chelsea & Alicia support, just as Sabrina would not have voted Kat without knowing she had Kim, Chelsea & Alicia support. (4 votes carry at last TC) Turned out the way Sab expected with Kat being blindsided. Sabrina being smart, would want to know what the whole plan was & what Kat was believing. Kim, also being smart, would want Sab to know Sab was the decoy blindside to Kat. If they had actually planned it that way, it would have been a great plan, for all of the reason Kim wants Sab out. If Kim did not advise Sab beforehand, Kim should have an easy sale to cover herself afterwards. Sab may have doubts, may even raise the question back at camp after TC, but I think not likely. I think the most likely way it "comes out Sabrina was initial target last week" is if someone tells Sab to "use that". You say Alicia, I think it would be Christina (if Christina knew), as Christina is the one most likely to try to shake the big alliance up. Tarzan is going to stay with "Boss Lady" unless the numeres materialize.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-07-12, 11:16 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: Boss Lady" |
The easiest way to do damage control, IMHO, is simply tell Sabrina that Kat was set on blindsiding her, so they let Kat think that they were on board so she wouldn't get suspicious and have a freak out. Wasn't time before tribal to tell Sabrina about it, but knew there was only going to be one vote Sabrina.One vote by the bootee does not a conspiracy make. A close vote, out of the blue, that is different. That tells the person who is left that they weren't in the loop. Sabrina may want to make a move, but she has a few ways to go. 1) Get rid of Kim or Chelsea, betray her F3 (that she believes in). 2) Get rid of one of the big goats so that Kim's options decrease. 3) Go for Alicia as the original alliance member who could replace Sab in a F3. What defines a big move? Maybe it is just that Sabrina makes it happen and not Kim. Sabrina needing to play pro-actively and not let Kim run the show ... it is time ... little does she know that the jury are already stating they will vote for her, and her real job is to stay alive in the game.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-06-12, 07:26 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Misfits 2.0" |
Yeah. Trying to think outside the Kim-Chelsea betrayal box, Sabrina as a ringleader was one viable option. Alicia as a wildcard disruptive player messing up as many of the others' games as she can is also a possibility, though she is more opportunistic in the moment than a long-range planning character. And then we have the it shouldn't have happened but guess what, Manono2 has reached parity with Salani2, a goat alliance.
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jasonkola 240 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-06-12, 06:59 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: PIP Promo Vidcaps" |
Well it by the looks of this PIP promo the teaser, "Next week, a tribe member emerges from the background to join strategy talks", is referring to Christina. Now if we can only figure out who the unlikely betrayal is. I am still going back and fourth between Sabrina and Chelsea. But we do see Christina conspiring with Chelsea so it could be a Kim blind side.
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SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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05-06-12, 08:37 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: PIP Promo Vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-06-12 AT 08:52 PM (EST)Thanks VG! Good stuff. Interesting to see Chelsea and Christina talking. Based on this vidcap and also the handshake, Christina could fit the "emerging from the background" to talk strategy clue (as well as Tarzan). And let's face it: Christina is a much better goat vs. Tarzan for both Kim and Alicia. Hmmm, so why is Kim looking so excited in the vidcaps with Alicia? That is the most animated I've seen her all season! It doesn't appear to be at a challenge or reward. Looks like they are just talking strategy on the beach, but something has obviously happened to make her so darn happy. Also, what is the black thing in the vidcap with Kim, Sabrina and Chelsea? It almost looks like Kim is holding something up to show them? They don't look happy, especially Sab. (ETA: Kim seems to have same clothes/hairdo in both this scene and the one where she's so happy with Alicia. Could they be related? i.e., she sets up Sab/Chelsea, then reports back how well it went with Alicia?) So looks like the 3 goats are finally ganging up...but the fact that they're showing us the handshake seems like it's doomed to fail/alliances revealed
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-07-12, 07:04 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
I know it is fun to spec that Kim could go here, but it's not realistic. The editors would never put the whole season in one person's basket if that player was not in the Finale/Finals. If Kim went now, the Finale wouldn't have any kind of anchor. It would be -- Kim is gone, now what? While it would be an interesting way to go IMHO, that's not how they edit this show. It would be like Samoa with Russell not in the finale, or RI Finale without Boston Rob, or South Pacific without Coach and Ozzy. This season is the story of how Kim played the game, and they do not do that for someone who placed sixth. At most we finally get an episode where Kim feels vulnerable from her own original alliance and not from Troy bouncing her with an idol. And maybe not that.
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Murphy3126 223 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-07-12, 08:28 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
So true! I don't think I've seen one unfavorable presentation of Kim. Sabrina has had a couple, Chelsea, in spite of her stmt. when meeting her father at RC of her being a "Hard #####" in the game, has been shown as quite tentative when talking strategy even with Kim, & while not deferring to Kim, Chelsea has usually seem deferential to Kim, IMHO, where Kim is quite assertive even with Chelsea when stating "Sabrina 1st". The rest of the surviving cast have been bad or worse, except for maybe the invisible Christina, who may suddenly make an appearance on the show, only to be voted off soon thereafter!
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michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-07-12, 09:53 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
That is how I see it also.
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michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-07-12, 11:00 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: S24 E13 Vidcaps" |
- Maybe she doesn't win - Maybe they want to keep viewers thinking that others don't like her so that the FTC vote isn't obvious. - Maybe they've heard us complain that they never show smart, scheming women so they went for the strict clinical player edit.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-08-12, 01:49 AM (EST)
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74. "pics are up" |
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byoffer 15947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-08-12, 10:37 AM (EST)
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76. "RE: pics are up" |
Isn't that Tarzan's thong??
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-12, 00:14 AM (EST)
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82. "RE: pics are up" |
With the vid up now I concede your point, Chelsea does seem to be the first this time to prove she can do a puzzle, and then Alicia.
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PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-12, 04:04 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: Denim shorts?" |
Yep they're Kat's shorts. They're the same colour tone of jeans and Kat initially had them longer, then cut them shorter.
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